Review: Nerdcore Hip-Hop Compilation CD Project 194
The best part is that this is all available freely as bittorrents. It'll take you many hours to wade through it all, but the gems in there make it worth the trip.
What I hear on these albums really runs a wide spectrum of music, both in terms of genre and production value. Some sound like a kid with his iMac and a mic. And there's others that sound just as produced as any mainstream studio release. Of course music is about more than how expensive of a mic you used: you'll hear "Good" songs in both groups.
Besides the fact that almost all of these tracks are 'Rap', if there is a unifying feature here it's that the songs are about nerdish things. You'll hear tracks reciting Pi, talking smack about operating systems, and games from Super Mario Bros to Warcraft and Dungeons and Dragons. Much of the Post Dre rap you've heard celebrates the 'Gangsta' lifestyle. Personally I find much of this very hard to take seriously. Likewise, much of the lyrics just get campy. It's like a Weird Al mad libs lyric, where the rapper tries to rhyme whatever techish things pop into mind. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't.
MC Hawking is a great example. His track essentially an MC Battle style rap that relies on the synthesizer voice gimmick. But damnit it actually works. The lyrics are tight and amusing. I wish the hook was stronger, but thats a track I'll enjoy listening to.
Monzy's 'So Much Drama in the PhD' works as well. 'I run gmake and gcc / and i ain't never called malloc without calling free'. The parts come together really well. He might not be the best rapper you've ever heard, but I really enjoy the track. But the lyrics are ultimately that of a novelty song. Very entertaining with a good beat, but very niche.
Ytcracker's "In My Time" is just a fantastic track. You'll be hard pressed not to tap your foot. His lyrics are less obvious then most anything else on the rest of the album. He might be referencing the Atari 2600 or downloading porn to a USB pen, but you could play this track outside a compilation like this and it works. He's probably my favorite on the set. I had to snag more of his stuff from his web site, and it was interesting to see that his work is actually progressing. Having mined the most extreme end of the tech/geek world, his last few songs are stronger for it.
Another common theme here is liberal use of samples. Almost everything has samples from somewhere. You'll here the sound of Mario catching a mushroom integrated into the beats of tracks, and countless game theme songs and sound effects split apart and remixed. Sometimes it's just a gimmick. Other times it works musically. In addition to liberal use of sampling, copyright issues are a common theme in many tracks as well. Sometimes it's subtle, flippant references to downloading movies. But in the case of "Fuck the MPAA"... well, not so much in the way of subtle ;) Don't get me wrong- I got little warm fuzzies hearing sounds that i haven't heard in years, back from my childhood. But after 70 odd tracks, the novelty fades.
On a somewhat related notes, Googling a few of these artists and you'll find another common theme- the remix. Many of these artists feature remixes on their own sites done by others. Doing this definitely shows that a compilation like this is only the tip of the nerdcore iceberg.
It's also worth noting that there are a number of tracks that kinda don't fit. Foreign language stuff. Stuff that falls more into the pop category than hip hop. Some of these tracks are allright, but they feel out of place in this compilation. Like the Rappy McRapper track 'Lick Your Own Butthole Dance'. It's purely goofy silly stuff. Not bad mind you, but it simply doesn't fit. That said, I must have listened to that butthole song 10 times. It's so stupid I love it.
I sort all my music using iTunes '5 Star' thingee. Anything I rate 1-2 stars, I never want to hear again. 17 tracks here fell into that category. Anything 4-5 stars is stuff that goes into my uber playlist. I currently have 1174 songs in this playlist. Of the 4 CDs of music here, 15 songs made it to that playlist. Thats better then most music I listen to.
My suggestion- just download it. Listen to a couple tracks at a time. Don't listen to 15 in a row or it'll break you. Listening to someone rap about Warcraft and followed by one about rolling D20s gets old when strung together. But the best tracks on here stand tall, taking "Nerdcore" away from being simply silly novelty tracks ready for morning zoo radio and campus CS labs, and instead showing that the so called "Nerdcore" lifestyle can be celebrated in at least as interesting way as "Gangsta". The best tracks here do just that. Finding them is fun. A number of artists here are doing just that.
But at the end of the day, sometimes you just need to find a bit of music that you can relate to. And when you hear 'join me in the basement cuz it's warcraft patch day / time for D&D a frontalittle mainstay' day, so it's time to play D&D.... well, thats my Tuesday too. There's something odd about hearing it rapped about.
Hmm... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Hmm... (Score:2)
They also put on the most energetic and fun concert I have ever been to.
Re:Hmm... (Score:2, Funny)
But it will help you ferzle your inner nerzle.
Post your favorite 'nerdcore' artists! (Score:3, Interesting)
http://www.mcchris.com [mcchris.com]
or rappy mcrapperson
http://www.rappymcrapperson.com [rappymcrapperson.com]
Re:Post your favorite 'nerdcore' artists! (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Post your favorite 'nerdcore' artists! (Score:2)
Full disclosure: I have a small part in the show and I work for the theater. But I'm on topic!
Re: (Score:2)
Re:Post your favorite 'nerdcore' artists! (Score:2)
I ain't hatin', just trying to help.
Re:Post your favorite 'nerdcore' artists! (Score:2)
Re:Post your favorite 'nerdcore' artists! (Score:2)
daft punks' interstella 5555 [imdb.com] was great
or even DJ QBert's Wave Twisters [imdb.com] was a fun watch.
more animated music videos people!
dont forget the classic river city ransom work it [evilzug.com] mvid.
Why rap?? (Score:5, Informative)
-Rick
Re:Why rap?? (Score:2)
Re:Why rap?? (Score:2)
Re:Why rap?? (Score:2)
Generally speaking, any description with a -core suffix needs to be modifying something. For example, hardcore rap is a far different thing from hardcore punk - but they're definitely both hardcore. And hardcore land luge racing is also hardcore.
Re:Why rap?? (Score:2)
Re:Why rap?? (Score:2)
-Rick
Re:Why rap?? (Score:2)
Re:Why rap?? (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm not so sure about that, but there are certainly great non-geek rap songs in the world, so why not rap?
DDR Mario (Score:3, Funny)
I recently bought DDR Mario Mix for the Gamecube. While I'm not a fan of house/techno/trance/whatever music, I was impressed with the remix of some of the classic Mario songs. I'm waiting for one of these mixes to show up at the local dance club just to see how many people catch the underlying music:
"Dude, why do I have the sudden urge to jump on top of your head?"
Re:DDR Mario (Score:2)
Re:DDR Mario (Score:2)
Re:DDR Mario (Score:2)
Actually, the fact that I bought it for my kids proves much more than buying the game that I don't go to clubs.
How do they compare to MC Lars? (Score:2)
I like his songs, he has a talent for crafting great pop tunes.
Re:How do they compare to MC Lars? (Score:2)
'Round here, we call it McGoth.
bling (Score:4, Funny)
In all reality, I don't think nerdcore is geared to ever become mainstream... which is good, because mainstream usually means "mindless crap to please the masses and get them to buy things".
Re:bling (Score:2)
But on the negative side, its female-repelling properties classify it as a contraceptive, needing a doctors prescription in several states.
Re:bling (Score:2)
Now of course a golden USB or Cat5 cable, with a wireless detector on it would be the upgraded equivelent. Though I'm guessing a pimped out laptop would be called for (with studs)
I'm very happy that there is yet another *core in music now, and this is the only *cor
Bling (Score:2)
Re:bling (Score:2, Funny)
Re:bling (Score:2)
Step 2: ????
Step 3: Profit
Step 4(Optional): Geekette Ho's
rating system (Score:3, Insightful)
My keyboard has a special key for songs (and other things) with such ratings. I call it the 'delete' key.
Seriously, why bother rating something you never want to hear again? Why not just delete it? It this an iTunes thing?
Not an iTunes thing (Score:2)
Now 1-2 star rating on something I don't want to here, but want to share with somepeople who may like it would make sense.
When I get enough, I burn a disk, then delete.
Re:rating system (Score:2)
Now whilst I'll readily admit I barely listen to a lot of this stuff anymore, there are occasions when I suddenly want to listen to something, even if it is for all intents and purposes rubbish.
Mid-90s dance
Re:rating system (Score:2)
It's because he has the hoarding gene that so many nerds have. (Is that related to the monoamine oxidase A thing?)
Re:rating system (Score:2)
I think this deserves a new slashdot meme...
Re:rating system (Score:2)
I'll be using that special "Delete" key on the cruft out of these torrents, because these files were free. But the vast majority of my music cost real money, so with my hard drive being nowhere near full, I may as well keep them around. If my hard drive was even bigger, I'd probably never bother deleting at all.
Do not underestimate the power of subjectivity.
Re:rating system (Score:2)
More Frontalot and Hawking! (Score:2)
Devo (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm just sayin'
Bah (Score:2)
Re:Bah (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Bah (Score:2)
I use a similar process for OCRemix.org [ocremix.org]; there are torrents [ocremix.org] of the songs you can grab, about 1500, then I just filter through the list once, pluck out the ones I like, and trash the rest. I'd say I'm keeping about 5%, if that, but that's still some neat music you won't find any other way.
(Also, grab the Doom torrent. You'd never know that wasn't a full profess
Bah... (Score:2)
Whoops forgot the website (Score:2)
Don't forget the nerdcore producers! (Score:2)
some bad nerdcore rap fer ya (Score:5, Funny)
I'll bash that script, like a process I be sniping
You're lamer than some h4x0r saying "Yo! Yo! Whatsup?!"
I wish that somebody would terminate ya with a kill -HUP.
I'm flying like Apache, you're slower than concrete.
You're built like a gnome, and I ain't talking 'bout no suite.
No shortcuts'll save you, your doom is complete
No Alt-F4'll help you, no Ctl-Alt-Delete
will stop this feat, you better believe it
this ain't no superstition,
I'll open all your ports and your hardrive repartition.
So, you say you're fighting for the nerdcore crown...
But I'd say that you're closer to a nerdcore clown.
Pack it in, save your ass, yo H4x getthefuckouttadodge!
You're a Beowulf unclustered, with its power cords dislodged.
You're too l4me for this g4me, wanna fl4me? It's all the s4me
Cuz you're an Apple 2c and I'm a mainframe.
You're inept! Can't even play dead, you play sick.
We couldn't pityyoumore if you were Visual Basic.
You like that kid? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about!
It's a rout! I flout my stout clout with this cool cool cout
and I'm out.
Re:some bad nerdcore rap fer ya (Score:2, Informative)
Re:some bad nerdcore rap fer ya (Score:2)
Mainly that cathedral part
Wait, this isn't rap
Post-Dre Gangsta (Score:2)
Alas, this is true. There is lots of other stuff out there, but it won't get much radio or club play, because Gangsta sells better.
In the words of KRS-One: "Hip hop is where it always was - underground." (sorry, quoted from memory, almost certainly without accuracy).
For some recent (well, OK, not that recent, but I don't keep up to date) non-Gangsta hip hop, check out Bomfunk MCs for some serious breaks and BBoy-centric music, "The Ret
Re:Post-Dre Gangsta (Score:2)
Stevens (R-Nerd) (Score:2)
Re:Stevens (R-Nerd) - you got that abckwards (Score:2)
how much brains do you need to argue why a wookie would use alight saber? or discuss who is better Superman or mighty mouse. Or think that there time they ahve been playing roleplaying games counts for something? Those are geek activities.
Geeks think up, design and build the toys that allow geeks to play.
Re:Stevens (R-Nerd) - you got that abckwards (Score:2)
What are you trying to say, nerd? Abckwards, indeed.
Re:Stevens (R-Nerd) - you got that abckwards (Score:2)
ah crap.
Nerds think up, design and build the toys that allow geeks to play.
"Abckwards" was intentional, albeit poor, humor.
My poorly illustrated point* was that nerds are generally smarter then geeks. Or at least in fields that take smarts.
My pore** example was indicating that what geeks are known for doesn't take a lot of smarts;However, it does take a lot of immagination and free time. Noth of which are good things.
*when people miss the
Further clarification* (Score:2)
Nerd, as a stereotypical or archetypal designation, refers to somebody who pursues intellectual interests at the expense of skills that are useful in a social setting, such as communication, fashion, or physical fitness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geek [wikipedia.org]
A geek (IPA: [gik]) is a person who is fascinated, perhaps obsessively, by obscure or very specific areas of knowledge and imagination.
*without notes..damn
Re:Further clarification* (Score:2)
Nerds are people who have unusual interests which compete with their social skills.
Geeks are people who have technical proficiency in some specific field.
Neither are necessarily creators of anything they're interested in. However, geeks proficiency makes them likely to create. Nerds are just friendless weirdos.
If you were a geek, you'd know that. You're just another nerd, even if that's news to you that doesn't matte
MC Frontalot (Score:5, Interesting)
http://frontalot.com/index.php [frontalot.com]
He's the most nerdcore!
Re:MC Frontalot (Score:2)
Roosevelt Franklin (Score:2)
In a different style (Score:2)
Les Horribles Cernettes [web.cern.ch] are quite nerdcore in their own way. "I feel your attraction It's a strong interaction" seems quite the right words if you're the world's "one and only High Energy Rock Band".
Oh, and check the lyrics for liquid nitrogen [web.cern.ch] too.
how can you have an article on nerdcore (Score:2, Insightful)
Aquabats are not alone (Score:2)
im a hardcore raper u kno what im sayin (Score:2, Informative)
RAR (Score:2)
My twelve (Score:2)
All in all, it looks like far too many nerds think that the only way to make credible rap is by pretending to be a black gangster, which is sad.
Another problem was the
Re:Geez (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Geez (Score:3, Interesting)
I dunno....all that playing their own instruments, and composing original music, lyrics and sounds vs sampling/stealing others work hardly sounds like groups that would be overrated. Possibly they are admired for their actual talent for creating something new and musical at the same time.
I dunno, with (c)rap, it seems if you had enough equipment (sampling, drum machine, mixing) and write some rhymes...anyone can
Re:Geez (Score:2)
Re:Geez (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Geez (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Geez (Score:5, Insightful)
There's a lot of lousy, uninspired rap out there but that doesn't mean the whole genre is devoid of artistic talent.
Re:Geez (Score:2)
You are correct....could not have phrased it better myself.
Re:Geez (Score:3, Insightful)
As someone who is close to the music business, no its not that easy, although it seems that way. Like people that play "real instruments" there a
Re:Geez (Score:2)
Done.
If you say the Grateful Dead are the best thing to happen to music in the past 100 years, I say they've an awful lot of competition.
Sure, I'm into most all of those bands. I don't like the "jam band" label, and am not as much into the derived bands, but aside from the improv and jamming, the only real influence the Dead have left is the format of live concerts into orchestrated sets, which even the Dead didn't solidify until the late 70s.
Its not just the music, bu
Re:Geez (Score:2)
Feh, after I went back in time and invented "middle C" 2703 years ago I've never seen a damn cent from all the people who sample it and all the derivitive works.
Oh, and if you realy want to someone to be "admired for their actual talent for creating something new and musical at the sam
Re:Geez (Score:2)
That's the idea. Lower the barrier to entry.
You get a lot more crap, but you also get more gems.
The reason I love hip-hop is that the only requirement
for excelling (not the same as getting rich) at it
is to have something meaningful to say...
Which, if you think about it, is what separates the people who sing,
play instruments, and have a grasp of music theory from those whose
producers do. Compare, say, Johnny
Re:Geez (Score:2)
Re:Geez (Score:2)
A lot. Trust me.
Re:Geez (Score:2)
Re:Geez (Score:2)
Re:Geez (Score:2)
Filk is a long-standing Hackish tradition, and Nerdcore is merely its latest incarnation.
But since you asked, how about blues?
Just One More Hack [colorado.edu], and then the author of the UPS debugger will put it on the 'net...
Well, if *I* had MC Hammer... (Score:2)
Wow. I never thought the day would come where I'd miss folk music.
Re:Geez (Score:2)
Re:Geez (Score:4, Interesting)
It's cool to have some music, some lyrics, some inside jokes that nobody "gets" but you. Find me a non-nerd who could appreciate something like "2B or not 2B, that is FF".
Same with music. And its lyrics, its style, the way it works.
Re:Geez (Score:2)
0x2B || !0x2B == 0xFF
Re:Geez (Score:2)
Re:Geez (Score:2)
I guess that's what they mean when they talk about riding a joke to death... GEEK!
Re:Geez (Score:2)
In my defense, in C that wouldn't be a 1-byte number so we're all wrong
Re:Geez (Score:3, Insightful)
Music is an art. You dont have to be the best with a brush to make great are. Likewise, Skilled hands dont always make the most heartfelt pieces.
An artist needs to be proficient enough to express what they want, in the manner they truely envisioned because, thankfully, art is not defined by the strict confines of scientific/mathematical perfection.
Translation:
Dream Theater is the pizza topping equivalent of DUB CHEE.
Re:Geez (Score:5, Interesting)
Once I stiopped disliking music because of it's genre, I found a lot of really good stuff.
I think EmmnEmm is a fantastic story teller who has some music that really cuts to the painfull part of parenting.
Re:Geez (Score:2, Troll)
No...I just said it wasn't for the most part...music, in a joking manner. Playing instrument, actually singing, harmony, melody...all things involved with music.
For the most part, with some exceptions, rap is nothing more than shouting or speaking over a drum machine beat, often with some samples of real musicians' work thrown in.
Re:Geez (Score:2, Informative)
you may want to google ProTools (Score:3, Insightful)
And while we're at it, perhaps you'd like to sail on back to the late 50s/early 60s and read what reviewers thought of rock and roll. It would be a surprising parallel to your viewpoints.
As you get older, tastes become more rigidly defined and the ability to adapt to "new" weakens. You're demonstrating that admirably.
Re:you may want to google ProTools (Score:3, Insightful)
I can enjoy anything out there pretty much, that is "musical". Something with harmony, melody, vocals singing...
Music through most of the years stol
Re:Geez (Score:5, Insightful)
On the other hand, it's no surprise that a nerd who values intelligence above all else would fail to realize musical taste has nothing to do with intelligence.
Re:Geez (Score:2)
Re:Geez (Score:2)
Re:Geez (Score:2)
"Yup, and do remember to try NOT to use the words "rap" and "music" in the same sentence, as that they are mutually exclusive terms, kind of like military intelligence."
Whew....lots of rapsters with mod points in here. Can't take a joke?
Re:Awesome Rapper (Score:2)
I've seen him live a few times, he puts on a good show with a band and all.
Re:No MC Plus+ mention? (Score:2, Funny)