YouTube Killer (Media Portal w/ Revenue Sharing) 179
MattPF writes "eefoof.com is a user-submitted content site similar to YouTube/Google Video which allows users to submit Videos, Images, Flash and Audio while receiving a share of the site's ad revenue. For example, if someone uploads a really popular video that accounts for a lot of traffic in a given month, the user will receive a good portion of the video ad revenue for the month. Could this be the YouTube killer?"
Possibly, (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Possibly, (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Possibly, (Score:5, Informative)
Possibly? But more likely it's a paid ad...
Has someone been sniffing the fireworks smoke a little early and a bit too much?
Hover your mouse over MattPE and see what is displayed:
http://www.eefoof.com/
Some bonehead (I won't go back and read who the editor was) that let that message go through without checking an obvious connection). I demand a recount on the editorial elections to see if he really received enough votes. Besides, you'd think MattPE would have an id other than eefoof.com when he submitted his message.
The problem is he's going to get a Slashdot effect just because people are going to jump the gun instead of walking away from his site entirely.
Re:Possibly, (Score:2)
There are plenty that advertise paying you for your videos, but honestly its too much trouble for someone that just wants to post the 100,000th mentos and diet coke video or a video of some girlfriends talking about masturbation.
Web2.1 (Score:5, Funny)
The shameless self-promotion on Slashdot and Digg (and probably elsewhere) kind of grates, but you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette. You have to swallow your pride a little when you're starting out, so please give them a break on this. Think of it like this: we're getting a chance to get in early while the contribution:pageview ratio is skewed, and we have an opportunity to perhaps make a little money.
But then again, it's not exactly the first advert in history to offer me a 'chance to make real money'. Apparently I could be making $2000/hour just by filling out surveys online!
It is, however, the most Web2.0-compliant [linuxvirus.net] site I've ever seen. If it is at all possible to compete with or even oust YouTube, 'eefoof' certainly seems to be the site for the job.
PHP quality (Score:5, Insightful)
Holy shit! Have these people ever heard of is_resource()?
And what about prepending mysql_connect with a @ to hide the error messages from naughty boys who you don't want knowing the location of your web dir and your mysql socket? It's not often that I'm out-noobed in PHP, but these guys have managed it.
Re:PHP quality (Score:5, Informative)
Re:PHP quality (Score:2)
Re:PHP quality (Score:2)
Degrades performance? Is there a technical argument and/or cite for that?
It would seem the worst-case performance hit for an implementaton of the @ operator's behavior would be to push the value of the internal error_reporting variable to the stack, set the internal variable to 0, run the function, pop and restore. Granted, I'm thinking like an assembly programmer here (bad habit when dealing with high level languages like PHP, I'm sure) but I can't imagine it would take PHP's interpreter more than a
Re:PHP quality (Score:2)
I really don't get PHP's whole "fail and spew crap out to the browser but continue executing" thing. They either need to stop execution completely or generate no warning and return some kind of error code. Clearly they are failing to check the return value of mysql_connect here, but even if they had that first warning would have been printed.
In the PHP app I begrudgingly develop at work we have a custom error handler that upgrades all PHP warnings to fatal errors. This at least saves the embarassment of a
Re:Web2.1 (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Web2.1 (Score:5, Funny)
"eellooff"?? What the hell? You should at least make some effort to get their name right! It's eefoof.
Anything else just sounds completely retarded!!
Re:Web2.1 (Score:2, Funny)
Lulu.tv (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Lulu.tv (Score:5, Interesting)
Would be seriously cool if creative people (no, not the people who cut 1 minute from Family Guy's episodes) could earn themselves a nice buck with their stuff that way (and there is always the opportunity to lead people to your own site, where they would be able to buy the high def version of the movie)
Re:Lulu.tv (Score:3, Insightful)
That parenthetical remark raises a valid point though: What kind of controls are there going to be to ensure that someone isn't making money from another person's copyrighted material? This is less of a concern for popular media which everyone can identify (e.g. a clip from Family Guy) but would be a serious problem for independant content makers who choose to distribute their work over the internet.
Re:Lulu.tv (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Lulu.tv (Score:2)
Is this your clever get-out clause to avoid having to pay anyone anything? Or are you only accepting material with the Creative-Commons-branded public domain notice?
Seriously, please do not misuse "copyrighted" when you mean "unlicensed". It leads to confusion, and plays into the hands of the media cartels who wish to spread their two dangerous myths: that restrictive licenses are the only viable option, and that the world
Re:Lulu.tv (Score:2)
A very noble cause, I hope you people manage! And maybe the music business can follow, there is a lot of reform needed out there. But I have a question as well, how do you make sure no 'stolen' or other kind of crap comes on your servers? Must be a lot of work to keep a clean creative commons site, or am I wrong?
Re:Lulu.tv (Score:2)
Re:Lulu.tv (Score:2)
Why I would still prefer YouTube (Score:2)
The new killer-killer... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:The new killer-killer... (Score:2, Funny)
I Agree (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:The new killer-killer... (Score:2)
Re:The new killer-killer... (Score:2)
Re:The new killer-killer... (Score:2)
Re:The new killer-killer... (Score:2)
Re:The new killer-killer... (Score:2)
Touche (Score:2)
I said that Moz was happy, even though they were in second place. MS is clearly happy and wealthy due to their dominance. However, IE7 is slated to be very Moz-esque due to the increased competition - proof that MS had its feathers ruffled.
Lets try this again, shall we?
You:But we live in a "second place is first loser" society.
Me:Tell that to those guys over at Mozilla. They seem to be pretty thrilled about the
Re:Touche (Score:2)
The point is that from the peanut gallery, nobody cares. Average Joe American doesn't care who came in second place.
Re:Touche (Score:2)
killr: The new killer killer. (Score:3, Funny)
Look at my Web 2.0/Dotcom-compliant features:
Web 2.0
- Rounded corners!
- Completely AJAX-based navigation!
- The navigation uses a cloud of words in varying font sizes! Exclusively! Maybe we'll even use varying colors!!
- The site uses XHTML 1.1, even thoug
Re:The new killer-killer... (Score:2)
Re:The new killer-killer... (Score:2)
It works. (Score:2)
By saying "iPod-killer", no one has a problem identifying what your product is.
It also helps avoid the problem of accidently pretending you're first. Imagine if the article summary just said "Site that lets you upload and publish your own videos." Everyone would immediately say "YouTube ripoff! La
Re:It works. (Score:2)
Calling a yet to mature product a ________-killer is simply thinly veiled fanboyism, and I think /. can do better.
Re:It works. (Score:2)
If you have a better term, by all means, let's hear it. But I can tell you already, unless it in
Good move (Score:2)
Either way, good to see that besides free hosting (don't underestimate that), people also are getting a share in revenue: I think this might lead to more creative/fun little movies being made.
Re:Good move (Score:2, Interesting)
As soon as you add money, the signal-to-noise gets much, much worse. The "OMG, $$$$!!!" crowd will be uploading any piece of junk they can find in the hopes that it'll stick and they get a few pennies for the efforts. There's nothing like the Colbert Report posted 100 times to ruin it. It might've been better if Googl
Re:Good move (Score:2)
Re:Good move (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Good move (Score:1)
The Google Adsense policy [google.com] states that:
If they want, they could pull all revenue of all these sites in a day, simply by stating they don't comply with the program policies. That would instantly strip all user profits except for the users of Google video program.
Hopefully Google will n
Re:Good move (Score:2)
No, the people crossposting their stuff to Newgrounds, Albinoblacksheep, YouTube, Google Video and/or
Problem (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Problem (Score:5, Insightful)
In reality? Most videos will probably not be uploaded by the people who created them/own the rights to them, because suing someone over pennies of ad revenue isn't a realistic solution for the college students who generally are creating these videos.
Re:Problem (Score:2)
Most of the CG animation you see on the web is made by CG enthusiasts to be used on their portfolios/demo reels, and while I don't condone uploading someone else's work to sites like youtube without at the very least letting the owner know first, personally I wouldn't mind if any of mine ends up there since a possible future employer needing character animation might see it and like it, BU
Re:Problem (Score:2)
Such an idea is fine and dandy when you are talking about owner generated content, but given how many use YouTube, this just wouldn't work and open up many different people to litigation.
Re:Problem (Score:2)
Well, perhaps the fact that it was the most popular YouTube video. For it to become the most popular, it has to have been shared a lot. And due to how popular YouTube is, chances are that it will have already been riding its popularity wave.
Re:Problem (Score:2)
Congratulations, you just invented EBaumsWorld!
(see ebaumsworldsucks.com [ebaumsworldsucks.com] if you don't get it.)
Re:Problem (Score:2)
Re:Problem (Score:2, Interesting)
You can even have it transcode Google videos to different formats.
Re:Problem (Score:2)
So how come... (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:So how come... (Score:5, Funny)
Haha, and that is nothing, have you heard about Yahoo!, Google, MicroSoft (what does these guys sell? micro and soft?)
Re:So how come... (Score:3, Funny)
Toilet paper, of course.
Re:So how come... (Score:2)
New Charmin Brand Tissue Paper. Now with Micro-Softness.
Re:So how come... (Score:2)
Re:So how come... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:So how come... (Score:2)
Re:So how come... (Score:2)
Re:So how come... (Score:2)
SPAM (Score:5, Insightful)
Creating fake accounts, pretending to be people jumping on the bandwagon, etc.
Die, spammers, die.
Re:SPAM (Score:5, Insightful)
There is a beautiful kind of irony in it though. Because of their haste to sell themselves, they've overstepped their own capacity and blasted themselves offline through sheer volume of traffic.
Perhaps if they'd had a little patience, and spread the big traffic spikes out over a few days, they'd actually be able to benefit from them. As it stands now, I just tried to create an account, got a bunch of database errors, and gave up.
I probably won't be back.
Time to make some home movies (Score:1, Funny)
slashdotted already! (Score:1)
video biz models (Score:1)
It is good that open source folks are focusing on the business models for Internet Video as this is another place that if we are not careful will get yanked away from joe public and put into the hands of execs and studios that push their c
Not yet proven (Score:5, Insightful)
Also, look for the revenue sharing to occassionally go towards legal fees, as I'm sure there will be more than one-piece of copyrighted material available for view. Someone will upload clips of Korgoth of Barbaria that someone missed, or something along those lines, and then either complain about not getting paid for the traffic, or having to fight off Time Warner lawyers.
And reverting back to my original point, can we please stop diagnosing something as something else's 'killer'? The market is very finicky, and often things that take off are things no one thought would. I laughed at the iPod when it first came out, now I own one. The PSP was supposed to outsell the DS by a phenomenal margin, and that's not hapening. And most of all, it has less of a chance of happening if someone starts showing off their design and yelling "but it's better and has go-faster stripes!".
Re:Those headlines must be true (Score:2)
Damn apostrophes.
The Fundamental Problem... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:The Fundamental Problem... (Score:1, Informative)
slashdotted (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:slashdotted (Score:2)
Or are you not giving a fairly unknown site with little ad revenue basis for an income stream that suddenly gets an enormous spike in traffic a chance?
No! (Score:4, Funny)
You can't kill YouTube. Everyone knows that the internet won't work without tubes! [slashdot.org]
Copyright owners will nuke it from orbit (Score:2, Informative)
Right now, it's a pain for the owners to constantly watch YouTube and remove them, particularly when it's usually fans of the people involved uploading them in barely-watchable low quality, just for fun.
If people are starting to make actual money from this, however, the studios are going to smack it with
Yeah but... (Score:1)
Stealing for cash? (Score:1)
Just looking at the front page (where they show the PBJ Time flash) made me think people getting money off popular videos. It'd almost be like eBaum's World, but now it's more than one person making money off other people's work. Heck, it even looks like they're _encouraging_ it. Look at "step 2" on their front page: "Why let someone else find it and reap the rewards?"
I mean, of course, there would be plenty of original content to go o
Eefoof (Score:1)
Wait you're not kidding? it's really called Eefoof?
Hahahaha!@#
skeptical (Score:2)
is this needed? (Score:1)
The internet funnies have already become so contrived that people with little talent see it as their best chance for their 5 seconds of fame. Gone are the days when a gawky Turk called Mahir could accidentally become an internet fad, or that an
Re:is this needed? (Score:1)
Looks like a good deal, or does it? (Score:2, Insightful)
FUNNY.JPG hits for the month: 100
eefoof image ad revenue: $1,000
FUNNY.JPG revenue earned: $10.00
eefoof's expenses $5.00
FUNNY.JPG earned you: $5.00
Looks like opportunity for some Hollywood accounting [wikipedia.org]
What, already? (Score:5, Interesting)
Or maybe I'm just getting old.
Re:What, already? (Score:2)
Re:What, already? (Score:2)
Yeah, because it's so fricking hard to click on another hyperlink or move your fingers to form a new URL. :-P
Besides, the argument is fatally flawed which you try to hide by exaggerating things like a madman, making 1 year old = every 15 minutes.
What's the problem with checking out another site after a year?
The laziness of some seem to know no bounds.
Or maybe you're just getting old.
eefoof.com killer (Score:5, Funny)
Pornographic website name??? (Score:2)
Awesome Idea! (Score:2, Funny)
Slashdotted (Score:2, Funny)
Classic copyright infringement (Score:2)
Don't do it, man...
Snow Crash! (Score:2)
Don't bother (Score:2)
Waste of time.
Uhmm... (Score:2, Insightful)
Participate for Payout the Next Big thing? (Score:2)
The Pay To Surf (PTS) model requires you to do what you normally do while having banner ads running along some part of your screen. These have low pay out because it's simple to ignore the ads, so advertisers aren'
profit sharing (Score:2)
Not dead yet... (Score:4, Interesting)
"eefoof" is the sound mafia victims make (Score:3, Insightful)
YouTube is bad enough, but there's no money involved to spur posting. If there's one thing a cartel hates worse than people giving away their stuff for free, it's people people giving away their stuff for money.
Re:"eefoof" is the sound mafia victims make (Score:2)
There's a quote for the ages. Very true.
Not to mention that the money would add a whole new dimension to "cam-whoring." I'm thinking that FBI trouble wouldn't be too far behind the RIAA/MPAA.
Re:Their payment structure is RIAA-like (Score:2, Informative)