The Planet's Most Moronic Hacker

RawGutts writes "This is the story of "bitchchecker" (the hacker) a user who lost it because he thought he had been kicked of an IRC channel by "Elch". The hacker comes back on the channel threatening to hack and ruin Elch's machine, and dares Elch to give his IP address. The address given was 127.0.0.1. "

Bash.org?

Sounds rather familiar to me...

Are you serious?!

This kind of shit gets posted, when so many good articles get shitcanned? What the fuck barbeque?

This story reminds me of this one time when this script kiddie asked me for my IP address and I told him 127.0.0.1! Oh wait, that's because it's the same fucking story! That's because everyone has seen this done or done it themselves once in their fucking life, and nobody fucking cares.

Let me tell you another story. This one time, I was at a coffee shop, and the girl making the coffee was hot, and she said something to me, and my response was witty and cute, and she laughed and it was funny and it made me feel cool. Then I drank my coffee, went home, and masturbated.

NEWSFLASH: Nobody fucking cares!

BT

Teg Teg, tell him about the time you were witty!

Re:Are you serious?!

NEWSFLASH: Nobody fucking cares!

bitchecker?? Isat u?

Serious

This story reminds me of this one time when this script kiddie asked me for my IP address and I told him 127.0.0.1! Oh wait, that's because it's the same fucking story! That's because everyone has seen this done or done it themselves once in their fucking life, and nobody fucking cares.

Sure, everybody has. But how many times has said kid actually gone through with it and nuked his damn box? Assuming story is true, of course.

Other problems with your post:

This kind of shit gets posted, when so many good articles get shitcanned? What the fuck barbeque?

If you expect good articles on slashdot, you're in the wrong damned place. This is where self-righteous losers come to discuss the latest Apple MHz bump, or how some administrative oversight is proof of America's descent into totalitarianism, or the latest shitty Star Trek/Wars/Buffy show. Oh, and trolls like me who like to screw with them.

So why the hell are you here? Nice post, by the way.

Re:Bash.org?

You've obviously never taken a class in postmodernism. If you carefully deconstruct the events, you'd be able to see past the obvious and get to the essence of the real story. 127.0.0.1 is the loopback address. Loopback is simply a synonym for "myself." Our antihero protagonist was therefore attacked by himself. His reactions, however, show that he was unaware this was a self referential occurence. He is clearly blocking that knowledge from his conscious. It seems likely that he is therefore suffering from Dissociative Identity Disorder, formerly known as Multiple Personality Disorder. This is a fascinating psychological study of the protagonist as antagonist. And you completely missed it.

Re:Bash.org?

Really? I understood the whole episode to be a superbly-constructed allegory on the ultimately self-destructive nature of violent antisocial behaviour, with a side-moral on the dangers of hubris and the essential importance of external affirmation as an error-preventative strategy... or something... :-\

(Yeah, ok, I used to date a Lit Crit major. And you've obviously never handed in a paper on Postmodernism, either - your post was a feasible, intelligible and practically credible treatise. This is Postmodernism - You don't get points for being right, you know, just for being clever [catalog.com]).

Life imitating art, possibly?

Life imitates art (or else some would-be "author" copies Illiad):

Another reason [userfriendly.org] people should read Userfriendly.org [userfriendly.org].

Re:Life imitating art, possibly?

"Another reason people should read Userfriendly.org."

That makes one reason.

Re:Life imitating art, possibly?

I agree completely, reading User Friendly is like biting down really hard on an ass sandwich.

Two questions:
1.) Why would you read User Friendly if it's that bad?

2.) How the bloody hell do you know what an ass sandwich tastes like?

Note: I don't read User Friendly. If you like it, read it. If you don't like it, don't read it. No need to engage in hyperbole to try and convince others that your opinion should be theirs. Let the individual read it and form his own opinion.

More real-life examples .... moronic lawyers

Back during the start of the never-ending 'Net vs. Scientology online war the Scientology lawyers went after Keith Henson, they had him in a deposition [whyaretheydead.net] one of the things was that they were trying to find out who was running the ftp server at 127.0.0.1 - seems Keith had joked on usenet about how many of scientology's secrets (probably the space alien stuff) were there, the scientologists had looked there and sure enough they were - Mr Henson was recorded by the court reporter as 'laughing hysterically'

Of course this is the same deposition where they tried to find out the real name of that evil 'majordomo' who was running all those anti-scientology mailing lists

Oh nooo

Aggggh!! He's hax0r3ed my computer... I have the same IP... he was using my machine!!!

Re:Oh nooo

Well, you should have followed the good advice of the RIAA: Always protect your valuable IP! ;-)

Re:Oh nooo

Always protect your valuable IP!

Please help! I just found out that my computer is broadcasting my IP address. Every time I connect to the Internet, send email or submit private information to a web site, I am broadcasting this unique address. With this address, someone can immediately begin attacking my computer. If only there were something I could download to protect myself.

Re:Other fun IP addresses to attack!

Why does everyone always fall back to 127.0.0.1 when trying to mess with people? That whole 127 class is reserved for loopback.

Interestingly, on a windows XP machine the following happens:

Pinging 127.54.34.67 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=128

While on my Mepis box I get the following:
PING 127.43.54.2 (127.43.54.2): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 127.43.54.2: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.0 ms

Re:Other fun IP addresses to attack!

It means the entire 127.x.x.x block is loopback addresses, not just 127.0.0.1

Re:Other fun IP addresses to attack!

The entire 127/8 is reserved for loopback purposes

Actually, 128 is not reserved for that purpose. Consider this:

Nah, he was using 127/8 as a netblock representation. saying 127/8 is equivalent to saying 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0, just as saying 192.168/16 is shorthand for 192.168.0.0/255.255.0.0

I didn't realize that some of the unices out there didn't respond to the other loopback IPs, though.

Slashdot. Hopefully everyone gets to learn something (relatively useless) today :-)

Re:Other fun IP addresses to attack!

Wrong. Read the RFC. The whole 127 is reserved, but only 127.0.0.1 is loopback.

bzzzzt. Time for an Anonymous coward to also learn something relatively useless today :-)

according to RFC 1166:

The class A network number 127 is assigned the "loopback" function, that is, a datagram sent by a higher level protocol to a network 127 address should loop back inside the host. No datagram "sent" to a network 127 address should ever appear on any network anywhere.

Source: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1166.html [faqs.org]

Hey !

What are you doing with pictures of my wife ??

Re:Hey !

What is he doing with my pictures of your wife?!

Had a similar, RL case

Trying to deal with an idiot on IRC. The server maintainer told him to try our alternate server at 127.0.0.1. And to keep trying because sometimes it was hard to get in.

Never saw him again.

Re:warez.phantom.com

$ dig warez.mcc.ac.uk

; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> warez.mcc.ac.uk
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 20043
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;warez.mcc.ac.uk. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
warez.mcc.ac.uk. 3600 IN A 127.0.0.1

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
mcc.ac.uk. 2895 IN NS utserv.mcc.ac.uk.
mcc.ac.uk. 2895 IN NS curlew.cs.man.ac.uk.
mcc.ac.uk. 2895 IN NS gannet.scg.man.ac.uk.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
utserv.mcc.ac.uk. 2895 IN A 130.88.200.6
curlew.cs.man.ac.uk. 11579 IN A 130.88.13.7
gannet.scg.man.ac.uk. 43500 IN A 130.88.94.110

;; Query time: 201 msec
;; SERVER: 64.182.4.32#53(64.182.4.32)
;; WHEN: Wed Apr 27 07:57:21 2005
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 186

Re:warez.phantom.com

I used to give out an address that led to some servers at the FBI. I admin'ed several hundred domain names at the time and made various entries under different domains all pointed at such well watched US government servers.

I rarely saw the results of what happened when men in dark suits came knocking at their door, but my imagination was satisfaction enough.

Re:Had a similar, RL case

I used to change channel topics to read "User Op Day! Press ALT-F4 For Ops!" and watch half the channel drop :)

Re:Had a similar, RL case

Actually, this just makes you sound like a dick.

There is nothing remotely funny or challenging about giving a new user an unfamiliar command to wipe his disk clean.

This example differs from TFA, as the user was the one instigating the hostile action, and therefore was receving poetic justice. However, in your example, you've just been unecessarily obnoxious. And now you come onto a geek wesbite to brag about it. Wow!

I'd suggest you put all that energy into trying to get laid instead.

I'll bet everyone $10

That this is a hoax. It's simply not feasible.

Re:I'll bet everyone $10

Oh, I think it is real. There are a lot of clueless wannabe script kiddies out there who are too idiotic to know what 127.0.0.1 is

Re:I'll bet everyone $10

Heh - sorry that you think its real. Thinking its reals says that you beleive there are programs that for some reason slowly erase drives, counting from the highest to lowest "35% of files on your G drive are gone" counting down until he logs out. Its a dramatic effect leading to a punchline, but its not really how things work :)

Its a funny little fiction, written by someone who knows enough to know that 127.0.0.1 is a loopback, but who maybe doesn't know enough to make his story more plausible... if thats what he is going for. I don't think he really was, and its more meant as a good funny chunk of internet lore/fable, on a situation many of us common to IRC have seen.

Re:I'll bet everyone $10

That this is a hoax. It's simply not feasible.

What? No, no, that is not possible. They have a chatlog as evidence and everything! And it is on the frontpage of Slashdot so you KNOW it has to be true.

Re:I'll bet everyone $10

[10:28]<me> your kidding , how the hell can you fake an irc log
[10:28]<you> like this!!!!
[10:29]<me> oh is this a fake irc log
[10:29]<you> yes it is
[10:29]<me> hm ,,, how odd

Re:I'll bet everyone $10

Mod parent down.

The feature your talking about is called "Strike Back" and what it does is send some email, do a port scan, some other shit. It does not, in face, "attack" anything in a meaningful way. It is just a colorful phrase.

Re:I'll bet everyone $10

While I have not actually ever used it, I believe iptables for the Linux kernel has a module that can basically turn the firewall into a mirror, swapping the source and destination fields in the IP header and bouncing it back to the originator. It doesn't do any special tasks such as port scanning or anything. However, it is not recommended to use this particular module as it simply increases the flood of packets that you wind up sending down your line. It also makes your firewall far more useful as a reflector for a distributed attack on someone else, without even needing to break into your machine to do it.

Re:I'll bet everyone $10

There are a few real world instances related to this. Maybe not as severe as the story.

quotes [bash.org]
More quotes [qdb.us]

Re:I'll bet everyone $10

Reminds me of a time i was on irc once , this guy stormed into the room shouting and threatening to hack everyones computers (aparently he had been banned the night before).
So i did a whois and a few other things and found out he was using windows.
It was fairly obvious that at best the guy was a skript kiddie and had hardly any knowlidge of the system .So i said "hey mate i just hacked your system"
he mutterd some obscenitys and not so polietly asked me to prove it .
So i said to him to type msconfig in a command prompt(i still have some working knowlidge of windows).

He then continue to mutter obscenitys about this having already been there , i decided to elaborate and told him i had installed two services as proof of my skill , those were RPC and messenger(this was a few years back) . He started becoming increasingly disturbed so i went for the kill and had a freind who uses windows to netsend him a message(he had forgoten to mask his ip) and in the message it said," the only way to remove the ""Virus was to deselect the rpc service and reboot" .
A few moments later a ping timeout message and the guy was never heard from again.

Re:I'll bet everyone $10

I once got a story posted on my personal webpage by some guy who was complaining that he was being attacked by my computer on an IRC channel. I was like "I'm running OpenBSD, that's ridiculous."

Then I started finding evidence. You know, that was the first time I'd ever heard about the system immutable flag in OpenBSD. They screwed with my /etc/pf.conf made the last rules allow everything, and then slapped on a big system immutable on it.

So, when I actually had noticed the problem with my /etc/pf.conf before even getting the story, I was like, well easy enough to fix that. Now write out to disk. Hm... write-protected... well, just override that. What do you MEAN denied? I'M FREAKING ROOT!

Now, I system immutable flag all my important files that I don't want to change if some script kiddy does happen to get into my OpenBSD box.

I'll take that bet...

I volunteer at a local high school helping a teacher explain introductory programming and interfacing using a Microchip PIC MCU. Last year, we had a kid that told us that he should just be given the credit because he was so good with computers.

The kid was, of course, an idiot. He could never get an assignment done because, in his words, it was too easy and beneath him. A sample assignment that he couldn't do would be to flash an LED once per second by writing an application in C - my version of the program was about 8 lines long.

After a sit down trying to level set him and tell him he wasn't as smart as he thought he was, he berated me and the teacher and told us that he was going to show us how good he was and trash our systems. I told him go for it, as I had a router firewall as well as a software firewall on my PC at home.

He asked for my IP and wrote "127.0.0.1" carefully on his hand.

The school didn't see him for a week and when he came in, he accused me that to stop him from hacking my computer, I hacked his. His parents were pretty agitated because the home computer was trashed and they wanted to bring a lawsuit against me.

We explained to the parents that 127.0.0.1 was the local PC's IP address and any attacks directed against this IP would actually be on the launching computer. We told them to go to a computer store and confirm what we were saying. We never heard back from the parents and the kid never returned to the class.

I've told a few people that if they want to show off how good they are, let's see them hack my computer at 127.0.0.1 over the years (it's in "123 Robot Experiments for the Evil Genius") and 60% of the time they've gotten the joke immediately. For the remainder, except for this one time, everybody else has figured it out before damage was done.

myke

Re:I'll take that bet...

We explained to the parents that 127.0.0.1 was the local PC's IP

Oh NOW I understand why it's funny

;-]

Jaj

Yes, there are people that dumb

No one ever went bankrupt overestimating the stupidity of the American public.

The moment you use the rationale "People aren't that stupid" to say why something can't happen, they you've already lost the argument. :)

People buy things from Spam and give out their personal details in response to bulk e-mail. I'm sorry, but many people are dumb as rocks.

Besides, we already know what 127.0.0.1 is, but how's a novice to know this, if all they know of computers is what they've picked up in a few weeks of experimenting?

I don't find this implausible at all. Even the fact that the "hacker" never made the connection between their hack attempts and being disconnected is consistent with what I've seen of human nature. I used to have an employee who blew five fuses on her UPS and didn't realize that it happened every time she plugged her space heater into the UPS!

I had her plug the Space Heater into the wall, and the UPS stopped blowing fuses.

Re:Yes, there are people that dumb

his computer is still running an IRC after half the hard drive is supposedly gone.

If "Program Files" and the System root are in the second half that's being deleted, and it's a delete and not a format, then yes, I can see that happening.

As a matter of fact I have seen this happen before. At a former job, we had a sales guy who insisted on "cleaning up" his hard drive every now and then. In Windows 98 he deleted large swaths of the Windows directory and Program Files, and the system ran for the rest of the day. When he rebooted however, the system was dead.

The same sales guy did it again during the W2K roll out. The users all had admin accounts on their machines (Don't ask, it was because of a political nightmare involving a management staff who thought having less than an administrator account meant they were being treated like children.)

Anyway, he tried to delete the c:\winnt folder, and kept at it while getting error messages about files being in use. He finally called IT when he got tired of "File in use" errors. I got up there and listened politely as he explained what he'd been doing.

"You know of course that Windows 2000 is based on Windows NT, right?"

"Yeah, but I'm not running NT, so I don't need it."

"In Windows 2000, the WINNT folder is the same thing as the Windows directory in 98. Did you notice that you don't have a Windows directory?"

He tried to reboot, and sure enough, the system was dead.

A management meeting ensued where I had to defend "Renaming the Windows directory" on the new Windows 2000 systems. The fact that it's the default name, and that the systems came from Dell that way, meant nothing. The company owner repeatedly told me to "Just rename it, I don't see why you'd have to redo the server."

The moral of the story is of course, that Windows is surprisingly resilient in terms of running as vital system files are deleted from underneath it.

Re:Yes, there are people that dumb

My personal favorite:

I do alot of rollouts. Barely IT work at all, the guy who mops the control center floor at NASA doesn't get to claim to be an astronaut or rocket scientist either. But the worst rollout ever, was for a public school system.

This public school system was more ghetto than most, by rollout, I mean maybe replacing 3-5 of the PCs in labs that had 20 (so there was always a mix of crap systems), maybe only half the computer lab rooms in any one building. And often, things would never be scheduled right, so we were told to go in the rooms even during class, and just be quiet, teachers knew we'd be there, wasn't a problem.

Being ghetto, the kids weren't expected to do real schoolwork, and would goof off. Porn sites, gambling, all the stupidest shit you've ever seen. Well, 20 minutes into this, almost done setting it all up, this black girl screams, "Oh my god, it say I won a million dollar, is it fo real!?!". A stupid spammy popup of course, but she had no critical thinking skills, nor had anyone ever bothered to tell her how much spam like this was out there. No big deal right, she's a kid?

So, me being the fool that I am, I try to explain to her what it is, not sarcastic or anything. Really. Can't remember how I worded it, but the tone of my voice was such that I was trying my best not to sound like I was patronizing, nor like I was making fun of her. Before I had even finished the one sentence, the cow-like teacher was "How do you know, she might have won something, you jus don want her to win." As the teacher waddled over to the computer screen, I shut up, she didn't bother to follow up with a tirade, and I finished up as soon as possible. Got the hell out of there.

Re:Yes, there are people that dumb

It's not patronizing if that's how they were talking!

-(not the original poster)

Dilbert story

Wasn't this a Dilbert strip from a while back featuring Alice as the sysadmin.....??

there needs to be a "forum watch" section

so that I can remove it in my preferences.

My URL.

It is the same reason for my URL I gibe http://localhost:8080 figuring some one will see that port 8080 is open on there system (probably from a failed attempt to get apache working) and start hacking it. If sucessfull they broke into their computer. As for the most moronic hacker I have seen worse threates. Like "My Dad owns the internet and he will have you band, then you will be sorry"

Re:This has happened on every IRC channel ever

We once convinced this guy that "peer" was this l33t h4x0r who monitored all of irc and randomly disconnected people he didn't like, and/or people who badmouthed him. That was fun.

Daniel

Slashdotted

Here is a cache:

Something nice I read on www.stophiphop.de (got pointed there by a comment on www.macguardians.de) is this nice story of a hacker: http://www.beast.mos-worlds.de/modules/new...php?s toryid=184 (site might be down, quite a lot of people are reading this).

In case you don't speak german (just as this hacker), I've tried a little translation to english. I might have made some spelling errors, but the original spelling wasn't perfect either. The guy really said "buy buy" in the german version. I've posted this on the forum on http://www.desertcombat.com before, so if this looks familiar, might be the same. I've corrected some mistakes and put the < > back to the right version (The DC forum does not support them). All censoring was done by this particular forum here.
Notice that in germany we get DST earlier than in the US.

The story starts (I'm shortcutting here) with an [Please control your cussing] insulting everyone on the IRC channel. Most people there believed it was rather funny, but it got even more funny. For information: The dangerous hacker is called bitchchecker and the one being hacked and original author of the comments, who is talking here, is known as Elch. 127.0.0.1 is always the IP-adress of the computer you're currently using, any request there will return to your computer.

QUOTE
* bitchchecker (~[e-mail]) Quit (Ping timeout#)
* bitchchecker (~[e-mail]) has joined #stopHipHop
<bitchchecker> why do you kick me
<bitchchecker> can't you discus normally
<bitchchecker> answer!
<Elch> we didn't kick you
<Elch> you had a ping timeout: * bitchchecker (~[e-mail]) Quit (Ping timeout#)
<bitchchecker> what ping man
<bitchchecker> the timing of my pc is right
<bitchchecker> i even have dst
<bitchchecker> you banned me
<bitchchecker> amit it you son of a bitch
<HopperHunter|afk> LOL
<HopperHunter|afk> shit you're stupid, DST^^
<bitchchecker> shut your mouth WE HAVE DST!
<bitchchecker> for two weaks already
<bitchchecker> when you start your pc there is a message from windows that DST is applied.
<Elch> You're a real computer expert
<bitchchecker> shut up i hack you
<Elch> ok, i'm quiet, hope you don't show us how good a hacker you are ^^
<bitchchecker> tell me your network number man then you're dead
<Elch> Eh, it's 129.0.0.1
<Elch> or maybe 127.0.0.1
<Elch> yes exactly that's it: 127.0.0.1 I'm waiting for you great attack
<bitchchecker> in five minutes your hard drive is deleted
<Elch> Now I'm frightened
<bitchchecker> shut up you'll be gone
<bitchchecker> i have a program where i enter your ip and you're dead
<bitchchecker> say goodbye
<Elch> to whom?
<bitchchecker> to you man
<bitchchecker> buy buy
<Elch> I'm shivering thinking about such great Hack0rs like you
* bitchchecker (~[e-mail]) Quit (Ping timeout#)

What happened is clear: That guy entered his own IP-Adress in his mighty Hack-Tool and crashed his own PC. This way, the attack on my PC was a failure. I was already starting to think that I did not have to worry, but a good hacker never calls it a day. Two minutes later he returned.

QUOTE
* bitchchecker (~[e-mail]) has joined #stopHipHop
<bitchchecker> dude be happy my pc crashed otherwise you'd be gone
<Metanot> lol
<Elch> bitchchecker: Then try hacking me again... I still have the same IP: 127.0.0.1
<bitchchecker> you're so stupid man
<bitchchecker> say buy buy
<Metanot> ah, [Please control your cussing] off
<bitchchecker> buy buy elch
* bitchchecker (~[e-mail]) Quit (Ping timeout#)

There was

People have BitchChecker pegged all wrong

Bitchchecker has been maligned by the press and the mob here. It's clear that bitchchecker simply spared these computer neophytes from certain demise. Why? Because bitchchecker is too cool to waste his time on some fools.

Transcript of above mentioned chatlog

<Cthon98> hey, if you type in your pw, it will show as stars
<Cthon98> ********* see!
<AzureDiamond> hunter2
<AzureDiamond> doesnt look like stars to me
<Cthon98> <AzureDiamond> *******
<Cthon98> thats what I see
<AzureDiamond> oh, really?
<Cthon98> Absolutely
<AzureDiamond> you can go hunter2 my hunter2-ing hunter2
<AzureDiamond> haha, does that look funny to you?
<Cthon98> lol, yes. See, when YOU type hunter2, it shows to us as *******
<AzureDiamond> thats neat, I didnt know IRC did that
<Cthon98> yep, no matter how many times you type hunter2, it will show to us as *******
<AzureDiamond> awesome!
<AzureDiamond> wait, how do you know my pw?
<Cthon98> er, I just copy pasted YOUR ******'s and it appears to YOU as hunter2 cause its your pw
<AzureDiamond> oh, ok.

A slightly different twist...

I call my main work machine "localhost". Confuses the hell out of a surprising number of people and programs...:)

Re:The vanity plate NONE

It was "NO PLATE" and according to snopes.com it's true. http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/noplate.asp

sanity check

I think everyone who writes sploits should include a small quiz at the front. If the script kiddie is dumb enough to not know that 127.0.0.1 is a loopback address, they should not be allowed to run the sploit.

The userfriendly version of this gag

Mirandas experience with 1337-hackers is here [userfriendly.org].

Does anybody know what happened to Miranda? Will she and AJ ever come together?

I've heard of similar things

But this just pushes the limit on stupidity! Sometimes I wonder if these people are even human. I mean come on, how did he even get on IRC?

Well if anyone wants to hack me my domain name is: localhost

I don't think...

...that anyone who posts a ten-year-old joke as news should be calling anyone else a moron.

Seriously, this or things like it have been around since the idea of a loopback was presented. There's got to be at least a dozen posts to bash.org with the joke, it's used on IRC at least daily, and as others have pointed out, it's previosuly been in UF and Dilbert.
It's like Taco just figured out loopbacks, and he's all proud.

Re:I don't think...

http://bash.org/?119969 [bash.org]
http://bash.org/?83489 [bash.org]
http://bash.org/?38640 [bash.org]
http://bash.org/?7658 [bash.org]
http://bash.org/?7229 [bash.org]
http://bash.org/?11701 [bash.org]

article mirror

the article was VERY slow when i looked, so i'm mirroring it here

http://www.georgiagrrl.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hack er .htm

Before

All you clowns start bitching about how this isn't news or this has been around for a while, I've got one word (well really a contraction) for you: Don't.

Not everyone has seen it and even if you have, its a joke, its funny, laugh. Most of us are at work and its nice to get some humor in the day.

Re:Before

All you clowns start bitching about how this isn't news or this has been around for a while, I've got one word (well really a contraction) for you: Don't.

Not everyone has seen it...

Good point! Slashdot should run this joke every day from now on. After all, there may be some poor schmuck who hasn't seen it yet.

Please Rob, don't do this - OT to some extent

This is an open letter to Rob and the rest of the editors.

Please do NOT let the site change into bash.org. I enjoy reading bash.org for certain things, and I enjoy reading slashdot for somethings. If I want bash, I'll go there. If I want slashdot, I point my browser to slashdot.org.

Now - please look at the stories submitted here. There is one about a fucking snail being faster than an aDSL line. Then there is a 12 year old story about a 127.0.0.1 hacker.

I realise that you guys are now owned by the OSDL. I realise that you now have ads on. However, don't let the compulsion to feed your advertising revenue overcome your editorial standards. By keeping slashdot focused on actual tech stories, about "Stuff that Matters", you attract a class of reader who is more likely to actually buy the server or the linux product that your advertiser is offering, enabling you to increase the rates that you charge.

Now I like a good laugh as much as the next person, but this is just lame. On slashdot, the stories themselves don't need to be funny, it's the people who post who make it funny. Granted, the beowulf cluster jokes are getting a bit old. ;).

C'mon guys, be strong, stand up to your sponsors.

R.

Re:Please Rob, don't do this - OT to some extent

Grow up man.

I thought the snail data transfer article was pretty damn amusing. This hacker one, less so, but humor is generally pretty hit or miss.

Slashdot is about a lot of things, one of those being tech news, another being tech humor. There's icons for humor, there's big bold headlines giving you an idea what an article is about. Skim those, and skip what you don't like. That's how it has worked for years. YEARS!

Having a little fun doesn't diminish the quality of the other articles. Go to any news source, they've always got quirky stories lying around somewhere. It doesn't devalue the rest of the content, it's just there because some people like to read it.

Don't pretend like your time is so precious and scarce that you can't be bothered filtering out what you're not interested in. Slashdot is in no way an efficient way to get good news.

*Cracker*, dammit!

The Planet's Most Moronic Hacker

No, darn it all to heck, this person is not the planet's most moronic hacker [catb.org] He is the planet's most moronic cracker [catb.org].

Word Use in Subcultures

Language is defined by the useage over time. Societies collectively define words. Many words you use every day started out with very different meanings. Deal with it, find a new word for "hackers" and move on.

Physicists still use the word "velocity" to mean both speed and direction, while the mainstream uses it to just mean speed. All scientists use the word "theory" to mean a tested hypothesis, while most people use it synonymously with hyptohesis.

I could go on with similar examples. We don't have to give up our name "hacker" to mean a coding guru, and cracker to mean a malicious coder. We are a subculture, and it is perfectly acceptible for us to use very tightly-defined words that the rest of socieity misuses. We do not have to accept their definitions just because everyone else uses it that way.

We do not have to participate in consensual stupidity.

Re:*Cracker*, dammit!

Actually, you're both wrong.

This person is the planet's most moronic SCRIPT KIDDIE.

Re:*Cracker*, dammit!

Sorry, while I do disagree with the negative connotation that has been atrributed to "hacker," I have to say that "cracker" is, putting it mildly, extremely lame. Rather than trying to force 99% of the population to conform to your vocabulary, just think of a new word for what you call hacker. Please don't make it rhyme.

Re:*Cracker*, dammit!

There's no need to get all racist about it. So what if he's white. He's just an idiot.

It's a translation

Originally in German. [pilgerer.org]

The Ping of NO CARRIER

Back in the early days of IRC when everybody used dial up (and most people thought a firewall was something your car had), a lot of people had really crappy modems with badly written firmware (usually winmodems).

Anyway, when someone started acting like that idiot in the story on IRC, daring people to hack their machine or whatever, I'd say "OK" and send them a ping with the payload:

+++ATH0^M

And half the time, they'd suddenly leave the channel and come back a few minutes later complaining about their ISP or their phone line or something.

And I'd just be quietly giggling to myself.

It was really fun because the arrogance/stupidity of these kinds of kiddies on IRC was directly proportional to the likelyhood of them having a crap modem that would fall for that...

k3wl w4r3z sitezzz!

warez.bofh.org.uk
warez.satanic.org
warez.cybernothing.org
warez.dsnet.com
warez.opus1.com
aNd m4nI m03r!!!!!11!!@!@ [bofh.net]

How 2 ma3k yuor 0wnzor w4r3z sYt3!!!!11!@! [opus1.com]

(Note to mods: RTFL before modding me down)

I H@CKED HIM

my puter kept crashing!... I can hack all of you...i dare you to give me your ip Address if you dont il'll have my dad band you from our information superhighway!...we own it! suckers!! n e wayz, i dare you to post your ip, i hack soo fast you can't know what i did. you all pussies hahahahaaa...i can hack all of youi 127.0.01ers onl;y pussies use firewalls...turn it off and we fight

Reminded me of a story....

...something I pulled on a classmate in college.

Way back in the olden days, we had a VAX/VMS mini that we did all our Computer Science projects on. Being bored one day, I wrote a "Fortune Cookie" program one day that others could include into their login profile to get a random fortune when they log in.

I decided to mess with a certain person's mind who was dialing in from home to the system (at a blazing 2400baud, mind you). I modified my Fortune code to detect that it was him logging, in, and when he did, it spawned off a new process that would inject random characters onto his screen at random intervals. I put the code in place, and watched the fun.

We saw him log in, and then log out after about a minute. Then log back in again. And then log out. And then back in again. And then out. After a while, he sent us an email complaining that he couldn't get a clean phone line into the system that evening for the life of him. Hee hee. I don't think we ever fussed up to it.

Mirror incase of slashdotting

here [127.0.0.1]

Hey. HEEEEEYYYY!!

That's MY IP address!

SONOFABITCH!!

Re:IPv6 ruining all the fun?

even better is to just make a dns entry for that.

and for those "edumucated" leet hax0rs who have learned that 127.0.0.1 = loopback, just make it 127.92.36.148 or something.

leetwarez.somedomain.com -> 127.92.36.148

keep them script kiddies busy for days!

Mirror

Because of the severe slashdotting, Elch himself is providing a mirror to the article. Check it out at this site [127.0.0.1].

Seriously, what's so moronic about this?

The victim must be a moron himself. I just hacked into 127.0.0.1 myself and the guy's system is still vulnerable. Un-freaking-believable. You would think that after a huge slashdot story about how moronic this guy was, he would fix his system. What an idiot!

Re:News?

No, this is humor. Seen the foot icon?
Check "humor" in topics you want filtered off in your prefs and stop complaining.

Re:News?

This is a chatlog featuring some idiot. The reason this is not funny is simple: there are a million of this guy, and we've all seen it before.

It's funny BECAUSE we've seen it all before.

New recruits have been getting sent out for things like left-handed smoke shifters, buckets of prop wash, pieces of shore line, and similar fool's errands for as long as there have been armies. Gofer jokes [utc.edu] and snipe hunts [answerbag.com] are old as the hills, but it's still funny when you find someone clueless enough to fall for one.

Pranking clueless newbies is a time-honored tradition, and is a necessary rite of passage for the prankee.

Re:How is this newsworthy?

Although humerous, how is this newsworthy?

It's in the "It's Funny, Laugh" section. It's newsworthy in a section whose purpose is to make people laugh.

Cheers,
Ian

Re:The Planet's Most Moronic Slashdot Post

Hello Captain Obvious, you're Obviously late, does the Obviousmobile need some servicing?

Re:How is this newsworthy?

You have to remember that this is slashdot...

Think back to April Fools Day.

Call me OT, flamebait, whatever. But seriously, 98% of that crap on April 1 was not funny. Irritated me so much that I decided to re-format my hard drive that day. Seriously.

Re:How is this newsworthy?

Have you tried recompiling your humour kernel? Try the British flavor, you should at least chuckle with that installed.

Cluestick

The whole point of the story is that someone actually fell for the ancient joke.. I've seen the 127.0.0.1 gag a million times here on slashdot, but I still laughed out loud at this, because it looks like someone was stupid enough to actually fall for it.

Of course, the story could be a hoax, but that's not obviously the case, and would be a very different thing from the story being boring because it's repeating an old joke.

Not having personally communicated with a script kiddy, it entertains me greatly to think that some of them might be so utterly braindead as to fall for the 127.0.0.1 gag.