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Evolution 1.5 has Been Released
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CmdrTaco
on Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:12 AM
from the stuff-to-download dept.
from the stuff-to-download dept.
SirPrize writes "As announced here, Evolution 1.5 is now available for download (obligatory screenshots, for those who want to click and see)" Congrats to all the developers responsible for this gigantic undertaking.
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Yay! (Score:1)
(http://www.ikbentof.com/)
Coming up real good. (Score:2, Informative)
(http://www.fultonpolice.org/)
Dinner (Score:5, Funny)
If you need a PIM to remind you to eat dinner, you have serious issues.
Re:Dinner (Score:5, Funny)
(Last Journal: Friday August 29 2003, @12:36PM)
Re:Dinner (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Dinner (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://fuck-you.org/)
My company, the godsend that it is, buys food for any employee who wants it, but the order can be in no later than 5:20p. (We get to order off or an actual menu from an actual restaurant)
So, I have a Calendar alert pop up daily at 4:55p, or I'd miss out (very often, in fact). I don't get hungry until 6:00p or so, so I have to visually remind myself to order if I *think* I'll still be here at 6:30p (when the food arrives)
I know it was meant as funny, but it is useful for people like me who can forget to pee for 6 hours because their brain is 'on a roll' with soemthing.
Java Desktop (Score:3, Interesting)
As an Evolution user for about a year... (Score:3, Informative)
(http://tomcopeland.blogs.com/)
Also, here's a duplicate code report [infoether.com], thanks to CPD [sf.net]. I like the comment on the first duplicate code chunk:Heh.
Re:As an Evolution user for about a year... (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm not trying to troll here, as I think Evolution is a wonderful product... but I'd just like to dispute your claim on one of the finer points - nothing will be an "Outlook Killer" until it runs everywhere that Outlook runs (ie: Windows).
Re:As an Evolution user for about a year... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:As an Evolution user for about a year... (Score:4, Informative)
(Last Journal: Thursday January 29 2004, @08:43AM)
*cough* connector [ximian.com] *cough*
Hmm. Time for another trial (Score:1, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Friday April 27 2007, @02:20PM)
Say it quietly, but through all my trials of mail on Linux, Outlook has just worked
Any excuse
Simon
Re:Hmm. Time for another trial (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Hmm. Time for another trial (Score:5, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Tuesday February 24 2004, @06:10PM)
You've never supported Outlook for others, I take it? It does several weird things with POP3. Take, for instance, this recent problem I've been having where Outlook thinks that a messages is 48KB in size when in fact it's only 46KB. It downloads the 46KB, doesn't get any more for that message, tries again, and again, and again, until it chokes and dies. This one guy had 500Megs of that one message in his inbox, and it never even got removed from the server (neither did anything past it). This is probably the POP server's "fault" (they use Post.Office... *shudder*), but the MDA should definitely be able to handle a fault like that.
Anyways, I'm not bashing Outlook in particular (I think on the whole the Office line is Microsoft's best work), I just find it odd that people are totally used to the bugs in Microsoft programs but think that equally annoying but different bugs somehow bar Linux from the desktop.
Groupwise Plugin? (Score:2)
(http://mrlithic.blogspot.com/ | Last Journal: Friday March 19 2004, @01:49PM)
Novell was trumpeting this as their Linux Mail Client on Ximian.
Gentoo Users (Score:3, Informative)
(http://nermal.org/)
S/MIME support? (Score:5, Interesting)
How are certificates and keys managed? Does it (hopefully) use a PKCS#11 module like Mozilla?
I don't know why more stuff doesn't use S/MIME early on. PGP/GPG and the others are not really standard and don't work off-the-shelf with a lot of big software (Mozilla and Outlook being two of them).
If we're gonna get news like this... (Score:5, Insightful)
Fedora Core 1 not supported (Score:5, Interesting)
I am using Fedora Core 1
Developer release? (Score:4, Informative)
(Last Journal: Sunday May 20 2007, @11:56AM)
So is Evolution 1.5 a development release? Are they following the same numbering scheme as the Linux kernel? So does that mean that if I am not in a testing mood, I should rather wait for 1.6?
Re:Developer release? (Score:5, Informative)
(Last Journal: Monday August 20 2001, @08:41AM)
So is Evolution 1.5 a development release? Are they following the same numbering scheme as the Linux kernel?
Yes and yes.
If you don't want to be testing 1.5 then you should be waiting for a stable 2.0 [gnome.org]. Of course, if you can, testing 1.5 is a good thing.
What's the big excitement? (Score:5, Informative)
Like the kernel, the odd dot releases are development.
That said, I choose to use evolution 1.4 for most of my email needs.
This is a testing release (Score:5, Informative)
(Last Journal: Monday August 20 2001, @08:41AM)
This is one of the Evolution testing releases that go along with Gnome 2.5. The goal is a stable Evolution 2.0 and Gnome 2.6 later in the spring. Check out he roadmap [gnome.org].
So by all means, pick up 1.5 if you want to help with bug fixing, but this is not a "stable" release.
OK this is lame but..... (Score:2, Funny)
(http://www.backtrail.net/)
I liked the previous version alot better... (Score:1, Flamebait)
If this carbon-copy turd is being held up as a shining example of open-source software, I would have to laugh. Total rip off of another program.
ooh I can connect it to Exchange server? But you will charge me money for this? And this connection software is proprietary and you will not reveal the source code? Sweet.
I still think... (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://ck-gunslinger.deviantart.com/ | Last Journal: Thursday July 08 2004, @01:17PM)
I don't pretend to understand the intricacies of Evolution and why it may be impossible to run on Windows, but I think that if it were possible, it would be a large boon to the project.
Re:I still think... (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://ck-gunslinger.deviantart.com/ | Last Journal: Thursday July 08 2004, @01:17PM)
Uh, no. I would like to think the purpose of releasing OS software for Windows is not to "make a clone," but rather to "supply the same functionality in an application that is open, standards-compliant, and similiar in appearance/use."
A lot of open source developers have the attitude of "anything you can do, we can do better." And this is a good thing. You wouldn't say, "Why run Firebird on Windows? It's just a IE clone, run the real thing," now would you?
Ximian Connector (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://pitchforkmedia.com/ | Last Journal: Tuesday March 23 2004, @09:08PM)
CB
Yes (Score:5, Informative)
I personally use it to connect to our Exchange 2003 server and it works quite well. Your company's Exchange server will need OWA support enabled however.
Won't be going anywhere near my systems... (Score:1, Interesting)
(http://www.astradyne.co.uk/tet | Last Journal: Friday November 09, @08:34PM)
Remote calendar support? (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://uncensored.citadel.org/ | Last Journal: Sunday November 23 2003, @03:10PM)
That having been said, though, I am still disappointed by the fact that they are not supporting remote calendars out of the box. Sure, you can buy plugins to connect it to Exchange, or Netscape/iPlanet/SunONE/JES calendar server (whatever they're calling it this week), and presumably Groupwise (soon)
So how about it, codemonkeys? The sooner we get some real open source calendaring going, the sooner we can start to make a real challenge to Outlook. Microsoft loves the Outlook/Exchange lock-in. They love it so much that they're trying to do the same thing across their entire product line (Office 2003 has many ties to SharePoint server). The window of opportunity is open, but it won't be forever.
Not following HIG (Score:1, Insightful)
What purpose does the GNOME HIG have if nobody cares a shit for it ? On the otherhand it looks like entourage - what an innovation.
Evolution 1.5 Screens (Score:3, Informative)
mail [members.shaw.ca]
tasks [members.shaw.ca]
bayesian spam filter? (Score:5, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Thursday May 13 2004, @07:26PM)
Exchange attachemts supported? (TNEF Mime types) (Score:1, Interesting)
Evolution is driving me nuts. While I lothe Exchange, and there are tools for dealing with Exchange (TNEF) attachments, they are clumsy and have caused me no end of headaches.
I'd even buy a copy of Ximian Connector if that were an option (it isn't; we're using Exchange 5.5x here).
Switching to POP and SMTP means that all attachments from the Exchange server are in TNEF format. Using tools like tnefclean (tnefclean.pl) are causing me headaches.
Feature Request (Score:4, Insightful)
(http://www.thornvalley.com/)
http://www.research.ibm.com/remail/ [ibm.com]
In my opinion, borrowing ideas like that for a groupware/email client would be what distinguishes Evolution from the competition.
Oh, and pretty please make a Winders version for those of us that are stuck here? :)
Kernel numbering! it's a devel release! (Score:4, Informative)
(http://tieguy.org/)
Built-in spam filtering? (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://spf.pobox.com/)
Re:Built-in spam filtering? (Score:5, Informative)
(http://spf.pobox.com/)
pgp (Score:4, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Friday August 31 2001, @10:23PM)
less like Outlook, strange UI things (Score:5, Insightful)
the version that comes with XD2 seems to have begun a move away from Outlook. and i'm debating in my mind if this is a good thing or not. surely the "switch"-like campaign would favour apps that looked and behaved more like MS apps for the sake of familiarity when moving across to a new environment. obviously the bad side of this is the whole innovation-stiffling argument that if one just mimicks Microsoft behaviour, what benefit other than cost is being added?
anyway, i would be in a better position to speak once actually having given it a test - but the UI on those screenshots seems a lot LESS intuitive than i've seen in previous releases. a few examples:
Calendar [gnome.org]
it may seem obvious to a geek, but what is "Local"? and how does that differ from "On This Computer" in the tasks [gnome.org] screenshot? also, what the heck is the "Component" button at the bottom there? and why do the buttons at the bottom there look so ugle. the ones on Tasks have icons, those don't. basically inconsistent UI.
i understand that this is a dev. release, but it seems silly to me to ignore UI in a odd release while developing the functionality and then maybe coming back to it in the following release. the way a user interacts with software should be considered throughout a development cycle as interaction changes can often lead to large programming changes.
Where's the junk button? (Score:4, Interesting)
wish I had the time to do it myself.
-jj-
Still no note/memo support?? (Score:3, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Saturday February 17 2007, @08:39PM)
Synchronizing to a PDA will exclude these. This was by far one of the most useful aspects of using Outlook with a PDA (the ability to copy any arbitrary text and load it to a PDA as a memo). I had built large collections of travel directions, software/hardware serial numbers, network IP information, reference data, even Xmas lists using this facility.
I'd rather the Evolution team provide function parity before they spend time glitzing the UI.
Version Numbering for Compatibility (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://slashdot.org/~Doc%20Ruby/journal | Last Journal: Thursday March 31 2005, @01:48PM)
FTA:
"note that there are still some bugs migrating data from 1.4.x to 1.5 and that 1.5 stores its information in ~/.evolution rather than ~/evolution/ so that if you add new info in 1.5 in will not show up in 1.4.x."
Version numbers should reflect the features and requirements of the software they describe. When I worked for Apple, we recognized that software compatibility depended on both data formats/protocols and user interfaces. MAJOR.minor.revision(.patch/build) numbers reflected interoperability: Adding features, either to the GUI or functionality, that the user could notice, incremented the MAJOR number. Changing data/protocol formats, in the filesystem, over the network, or otherwise (any I/O, like sensors), incremented the minor number. Revision numbers reflected internal changes interesting only to developers, likewise any patch or build numbers. Forward/backward compatibility becomes just another feature/requirement, a special case of any given version, never to be expected unless explicitly included.
With that simple scheme, we could tell whether a version wouldn't interoperate with other software in a suite, or might require retraining (eg, glance at documentation) to use. Or fixed a bug. With those rules, we defended rational version numbering in favor of users (and developers) - defended from the insane ravages of marketdroids who were locked in a version numbering "arms race" with the competition.
Gotta get me summa dat! (Score:2)
I don't think so (Score:2)
Still no "external editor" support (Score:2)
Kontact (Score:1)
(http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~ra002388/)
1) If I want calendaring, I open Korganizer, same for Kaddressbook and Kmail. Same look n' feel. I can use the bigfuckinggroupware interface only when I want to use them all at the same time.
2) Address Book integration with Messenger (Kopete), which by the way integrates well with the desktop.
3) Oh... did I mention "integrates well with the desktop"?
4)Connect to Kolab server (free), not to a proprietary server via a proprietary plugin.
5) Kparts, baby! I click a
Workbench! (Score:2)
(http://www.thecatflap.co.uk/)
ehr, am I reading freshmeat right now? (Score:2, Insightful)
(http://www.vanheusden.com/ | Last Journal: Wednesday July 28 2004, @03:08PM)
Ok, the linux-kernel I can understand, but some program clearly not every linux-user is using? This isn't freshmeat.net!
-- Flok 3.0.2 [vanheusden.com]
Request for Version 1.6 (Score:2)
Yeah I've tried comma-delimited files, porting mail to Netscape and then to Evolution, etc but nothing works completely right.
I'd love to move to Evolution, but I can't let ten years of legacy emails, contact info, etc go. I'd need to stick with Windows to access all that stuff.
Contrary to article, Ev1.5 is not out for XD2 (Score:2)
"Snapshots are also available through Red Carpet for 5 platforms including SuSE 9 and RedHat 9."
I have Ximian Desktop2 for RH9, and Evolution 1.5 is NOT out on Evolution Snapshot or Development Snapshot Redcarpet2 channels. The latest is ev1.4.5.
Has anyone got Ev. for XD2 yet or know where to get it(without building sources)?
Kashif