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Powered Exoskeletons In The Near Future?

Posted by Hemos on Wed Jan 16, 2002 06:46 PM
from the zeon-here-i-come dept.
PhReaKyDMoNKeY writes "Discover Magazine's latest issue has a story about powered exoskeletons and how they aren't terribly far off. Sounds pretty damn cool, except maybe for the centaur flatbed model. Screw a Segway, gimme one of these babies."
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  • diptheria by 8string (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:50PM
  • Faked? (Score:4, Funny)

    by avalys (221114) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:51PM (#2851543)
    Is it just me, or does the image of the soldier on the first page of that article look like someone tried to add the "exoskeleton" in Microsoft Paint?
    • Re:Faked? by bughunter (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:20PM
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  • Now all we need are the ant creatures to fight. by Rothfuss (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:51PM
  • good for commuters? (Score:5, Funny)

    by PD (9577) <slashdotlinux@pdrap.org> on Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:51PM (#2851547) Homepage Journal
    I'm too old for the army, but I think it would be extremely fun to put on my "running pants" and motorcycle helmet and run 50 miles to work like the bionic man. I hope that the no pedestrians rule would be waived so I could use the commuter carpool lane.
  • by StandardDeviant (122674) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:53PM (#2851553) Homepage Journal
    absolutely revolutionize the tactical structure of the armies posessing them. For example, if every footsoldier has the survivability of a light APC and the punch of one as well due to the increased load bearing capacity, this obviously lends a serious edge to that army. The consequences go deeper than that, as well. Becuase of increased complexity, more staff will be needed for support, and increased soldier skill will be needed. This dovetails exactly with the shift from large standing armies composed of recruits (think WW2 america or the chinese army of today) to small, highly trained special operations units (which in combination with advanced air support, are devastation incarnate, as proved in Afghanistan today).
    • Would this really be useful? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Christopher Thomas (11717) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:07PM (#2851643)
      For example, if every footsoldier has the survivability of a light APC and the punch of one as well due to the increased load bearing capacity, this obviously lends a serious edge to that army.

      Would it?

      You could, for example, outfit each soldier to be able to move at superhuman speed, and carry a couple of tons of equipment... but wouldn't it make more sense just to give that soldier a jeep? Same capabilities, and lower complexity and cost.

      Want to be able to move over any kind of terrain? Send a helicopter instead of a jeep.

      An exoskeleton is basically a vehicle optimized to mimic human mobility ranges. Which is silly - optimize a vehicle to work as a vehicle, and it'll be simpler and more efficient.

      Exoskeletons are really, really cool, and I want one too, but I don't think they'd be terribly useful in war, for the same reason that jet packs aren't (conventional vehicles do the job better).
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      • Re:Would this really be useful? by Planesdragon (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:12PM
      • Try fighting from a jeep... (Score:5, Insightful)

        by sterno (16320) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:21PM (#2851710) Homepage
        Vehicles are designed to transport, designing a vehicle to fight is less than effective. If you look at a tank, it is basically a truck to carry a big gun around, and enough armor to protect that gun so that it can blow lots of things up. In the end it's terribly inefficient, and imprecise. It's excellent for open warfare on a cleanly drawn battlefield, but for fighting house to house, etc, it is a poor choice.

        If you look at the recent history of warfare where tanks were available, look at what happens. You have the tanks run these rapid attacks that overwhelm large open territory but then you get into a village or city and suddenly tanks are useless (unless you plan to blow the city to smithereens). suddenly you are back to a style of warfare little beyond fighting with muskets and swords.

        On the other hand, if you can make relatively heavy weapons and armor available in an infantryman size package, you can get into much smaller areas and still have overwhelming force. You'll still need infantry, but this provides a signifcant augmentation to the availabilt of heavy firepower in close.

        Also, think about situations where you simply need to police a city. Policing a city with a tank is impossible because you end up killing a lot of bystanders and destroying lots of property needlessly. Having a few armored troops allows you to focus your attack much more precisely. Try chasing that rebel with AK-47 down an alley with an M1A1 and see how well it works.
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      • Re:Would this really be useful? by ZPO (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @08:11PM
      • Re:Would this really be useful? by ComputerTito (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @09:23PM
      • by bourne (539955) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @10:58PM (#2852500)

        but wouldn't it make more sense just to give that soldier a jeep?

        No, for several reasons. Want examples? Read Black Hawk Down [amazon.com] by Mark Bowden (warning, movie is reputed to have avoided anything involving insight or thought, but I highly recommend the book. It manages to balance readable action with reasonably objective insight).

        • Bipeds (and quadrapeds) are capable of far greater mobility over rough terrain than wheeled vehicles. In the 1993 Mogadishu battle, a wheeled/armored column sent out to rescue the crew of a downed helicopter was unable to reach the helicopter because the section of the city the 'copter crashed in was unreachable by vehicle. Another column was unable to correctly move 3 blocks where troops on foot covered the distance on foot correctly, if not easily.
        • Also in that battle, every wheeled/armored column (there were 3, minimum) found itself hemmed in and redirected by obstacles thrown up by ragged irregulars with no heavy machinery.
        • As for trading up into helicopters, two of them were shot down in that battle by anti-tank RPGs which are theoretically incapable or impractical for ground-to-air shots. There's no cover in the air.
        • The trend is towards carrying more gear, and exoskeletons let you carry it without throwing away the mobility (as discussed above). Another lesson from Mogadishu: most of the elite Delta and Ranger forces left their night-vision goggles at base because 1) it was a day raid, 2) it was one more thing to carry and 3) they wanted to avoid breaking them unnecessarily. They ended up spending the night pinned down by a vastly numerically superior force, wishing they had that equipment. The ability to carry more gear more safely is vital for highly trained, well equipped "super soldiers."

        An exoskeleton is basically a vehicle optimized to mimic human mobility ranges.

        Exactly, and human mobility ranges are IDEAL for rough terrain and urban terrain. Pick a war:

        • Vietnam - dense jungle. Give me bipedal mobility. Helicopters were only useful for insertion/exit, and don't even mention jeeps. (Alternately, consider Hue, which was pure and dirty street fighting, also not good for tanks, jeeps, or helicopters.)
        • Afghanistan (Soviets, 1979-1989) - The Mujahadeen just LOVED it when the Soviets would run a convoy up a narrow canyon. Ready-made ambush.
        • Iraq (Desert Storm) - Exos wouldn't do it. Neither would jeeps. That was a ready-made tank war - but only because Sadaam wanted to rule the third-world roost with Cold War-era TOE and tactics. (hint for petty dictators: the US spent 40 years preparing for a major tank war with the Soviet Union. Soviet tanks may be great for oppressing your own villagers and scaring rich but non-martial oil nations, but don't even think about going up against the US with them.)

        Basically, there are two kinds of wars: those which offer a maneuverable battlefield, and those that don't. In the former, air superiority and ground armor (read: tanks, not jeeps) are the decisive factor. In the latter, the amount of firepower, coordination, tactical information, and maneuverability of the foot soldier is the key, and exoskeletons will allow the foot soldier to have a serious advantage in those areas, and probably to gain some armor too eventually. Note also that opponents of the US will be trying to arrange non-maneuverable battlefields, because it's becoming clear that challenging the US on that field is suicidal, just as the Arab countries have stopped starting tank wars with Israel and instead moved to terrorism and popular uprising.

        Another lesson from Black Hawk Down - the amount of tactical information available is now exceeding the ability of command elements to grasp it all. The old "fog of war" meant you couldn't see. The new "fog of war" means you can't see the forest because you've got more trees than you can take in. As information and communication equipment is pushed out to the foot soldier (remember, an exo lets you carry more) this problem will only get worse, which means that the challenge for today's (high-tech) military is to improve their information processing systems so they can keep up and use the right info to make good decisions.

        (Almost made it through without an Appleseed [lightrealm.com] reference!)

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      • Re:Would this really be useful? by Kelsevinal (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @10:59PM
      • Re:Would this really be useful? by MrResistor (Score:2) Thursday January 17 2002, @12:58AM
      • Re:Would this really be useful? by jsin (Score:1) Thursday January 17 2002, @08:21AM
    • Humane warfare? by sterno (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:09PM
    • Military Uses (Score:5, Insightful)

      by sl3xd (111641) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:26PM (#2851737) Journal
      Unfortunately, I seriously doubt there would be any real military uses for quite a while, with the exception of heavy-lifting.

      It's one thing to have a device that can handle (relatively) slow, deliberate movements, and augments strength. It's a completely different matter to have a armored, fast-responding 'cyborg'.

      The biggest advantage, and use of this technology for the near term is in warehouse/repair duty. Forklifts are usually clumsy at best, where an exoskeleton could supplant (but not replace) these lumbering beasts.

      They'd be great for, say, Home Depot. This way an employee can pick up a couple of 100 lb bags of cement, and stack it in the store as easily as it would be do stack a bean-bag.

      But a military application? Not anytime soon. Let's not forget these devices require a power source. For the few minutes of operation, they'd be great. But don't forget that adding weapons and armor will do two things: SEVERELY tax the power supply, and when the power is gone, the frame makes the soldier a sitting duck for a fair amount of time while the suit is either re-charging/fueling, or the soldier is scrambling out of the suit.

      Any more armor than enough to stop standard rifle/handgun fire would weigh FAR too much to be practical for the time being.

      Even with gas-powered fuel cells... there wouldn't be enough power for an armored unit. The response time would be too great.

      A neural interface at the base of the skull (to transmit the motion signals from the soldier's brain to the suit) would speed up the response time greatly. But let's not forget that things are still bound by Mr. Newton's laws. The mass of even a lightly armored limb doesn't start and stop on a dime easily (not with enough armor to stop hand-held arms fire, anyway). It would take tremendously powerful superconducting motors to achieve that feat. But then, you're adding a cryo pack to the suit for the magnets. Even more weight and parts to break.

      Not that the military wouldn't toy with the idea; it's just that they realize the practical limitations as well. Strength-enhancing suits I can see; armored body-suits... not for a while.

      It's a great idea, until you deploy them without a heavy support team nearby. The logistics alone on an armored suit would be prohibitive. It's not like they can operate for weeks on end with only MRE's and sanitizer-tablets.
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    • Re:personnel-sized armored fighting units would by sam_handelman (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:30PM
    • Flying Things by Alien54 (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:35PM
    • freebirth... by dunkelfalke (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:37PM
    • Re:personnel-sized armored fighting units would by GospelHead821 (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:39PM
    • Military tech has come full circle (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Stickerboy (61554) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:43PM (#2851812) Homepage
      Big, hulking suits of armor and powered transportation that let a single soldier outfight and outmaneuver others...

      ...is this unique? Not really. Think of the Middle Ages, when Western-style warfare was ruled by mounted knights, with their 100-pound steel suits of full plate armor and their heavy war horses. Back then, armor and equipment was more equally balanced with the lethality of weapons. Hence, small units of elite troops (heavy cavalry) could rout much larger units of normal infantry.

      When firearms started to really catch on, mounted knights slowly lost their elite status as they became less effective militarily. The balance between armor and weapons swung once more in favor of weapons, and it became more important to put lots of soldiers on the ground with weapons than it was to field small, specialized units.

      So, you have a circle between highly trained units and large masses of soldiers that starts with the Roman legions, goes through Middle Age heavy cavalry, on to the massive conscript armies of Napoleon, then to the German Panzer units of the initial blitzkrieg, to the advent of "endless wave" doctrine used to most effect by China and North Korea, and finally to the development of close air-supported special forces. I obviously focused on land warfare and still left out a lot of different military innovations and tactics throughout history, but you can see a reversible shift between emphasis on lots of weapons and emphasis on specialized, highly trained and well-protected troops.

      Maybe more importantly for the here and now, the US military has recognized the need to be flexible, and that both types of land warfare can be effective in the right situation. The many branches of their special operations troops and their huge armored divisions both have their place at the table.
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    • Re:personnel-sized armored fighting units would by JanneM (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:51PM
    • Re:personnel-sized armored fighting units would by rho (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @08:45PM
    • Re:personnel-sized armored fighting units would by H310iSe (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @09:45PM
    • Re:personnel-sized armored fighting units would by vortexau (Score:1) Thursday January 17 2002, @09:53AM
    • Re:personnel-sized armored fighting units would by jafac (Score:2) Thursday January 17 2002, @12:52PM
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    • Ever read "Forever Peace" by Haldeman by wagley (Score:1) Thursday January 17 2002, @06:04PM
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  • Obligatory Onion link (Score:5, Funny)

    by legLess (127550) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:53PM (#2851557) Journal
    One of my favorite The Onion [theonion.com] articles:

    Stephen Hawking Builds Robotic Exoskeleton [theonion.com]. It's got a great photo.
  • Better use? by lowtekneq (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:53PM
  • Starship Troopers by John Jorsett (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:53PM
  • "Aliens" exoskeleton by hansk (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:54PM
  • Secure my suit by denzo (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:54PM
  • I'm thinking along the lines of... by ColdForged (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:55PM
  • much older idea than in the article by www.sorehands.com (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:55PM
  • I still want my Cyclone by JDizzy (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:55PM
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  • Hoo... by The Great Wakka (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:56PM
    • Re:Hoo... by C4v3_7r0ll (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:04PM
    • Reading is Fundemental (Score:4, Insightful)

      by SteveM (11242) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:09PM (#2851663)

      Furthermore, the exoskeleton has no real peaceful benefit.

      Yeah, I mean, why would a parapalegic want to walk?

      Did you bother to read the story? If you had you would have read:

      But François Pin, who heads the Oak Ridge effort, sees dozens of nonmilitary uses as well. "Construction is a $4 billion industry in this country, and it's very primitive. We are injuring people every day. Cargo handling, search and rescue--the possibilities are endless." Ultimately, exoskeletons could transform society. The elderly could regain the physical abilities of youth, and paraplegics could walk. "

      Steve M

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    • Re:Hoo... by pcidevel (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:15PM
      • Re:Hoo... by vsync64 (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @10:43PM
    • fear and loathing by Ghoser777 (Score:3) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:17PM
    • Re:Hoo... by klui (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:23PM
      • Re:Hoo... by amuro98 (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @08:10PM
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    • Re:Hoo... by GunFodder (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:26PM
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  • What comes next? (Score:5, Funny)

    by Glowing Fish (155236) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:56PM (#2851582) Homepage

    I will believe that exoskeletons are possible when I see such other anime cliches as germ warfare, human cloning, apocalyptic events and cynical plots to form a one world government come true.


    Oh wait...

  • power source problems by Afrosheen (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:57PM
  • The wrong trousers by lostboy2 (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:58PM
  • by Lemmy Caution (8378) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:59PM (#2851598) Homepage
    This is what I read Slashdot for. Screw the kernel updates and Microsoft vulnerabilties and intellectual property stuff. I want my Battle Armor!

    I'm worried about the dry-cleaning bill, though.

  • Power! by Chagatai (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:59PM
    • Re:Power! by ComputerTito (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @09:34PM
  • That didn't take too long by Motheius (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:59PM
  • So does this mean the end of... by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @06:59PM
  • Vaporware (wear)? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by AnalogBoy (51094) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:00PM (#2851607) Journal
    1964: Government sponsored Hardiman project. I remember reading about this in a robots book in 1997.

    Link to howstuffworks [howstuffworks.com]

    I still want a veritech fighter. I'd go to war in one of those.

    Read, enjoy!
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  • Oh, oh... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by macemoneta (154740) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:01PM (#2851617) Journal
    "Add a soupçon(?) of artificial intelligence and the suit could save its wearer if he is wounded. "You could send a command to take this guy home," says Stephen Jacobsen, CEO of Sarcos."

    Then so could the enemy, I would guess...
    • Re:Oh, oh... by kimihia (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @08:10PM
    • Re:Oh, oh... by KommissarHorizon (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @08:21PM
    • Re:Oh, oh... by linzeal (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @08:27PM
    • Re:Oh, oh... by DrSpirograph (Score:1) Thursday January 17 2002, @03:02AM
  • Wallace says... by johnot (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:02PM
  • Amish recruiting must be up by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:03PM
  • Great idea by spike hay (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:06PM
    • Re:Great idea by spike hay (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:28PM
  • Don't buy into the hype! (Score:4, Funny)

    by daeley (126313) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:07PM (#2851644) Homepage
    BURKE: I heard you were working in the cargo docks.

    RIPLEY: That's right.

    BURKE: Running loaders, forklifts, that sort of thing?

    ===

    It's obvious that this is a dead-end profession just waiting to happen!!! Don't buy into the hype!
  • Working Design by Renraku (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:07PM
  • Atomic Dinosaur Laboratory by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:07PM
  • Beowulf? by Spackler (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:11PM
  • Blue screen of death by bunhed (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:13PM
  • Exoskeleton picture (Score:5, Funny)

    by Nathdot (465087) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:16PM (#2851691)
    For those of you having trouble getting through to the article you can see a picture of the proposed exoskeleton here [happening.com.sg]

    :)
  • Much farther off then we think (Score:3, Insightful)

    by fuchikoma (144790) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:17PM (#2851700)
    Right now, there's 3 specific things stopping the production and effective use of powered-suits/exoskeletons (and sadly most of the solutions still fall into the range of Sci-Fi)

    1. Power source - a portable fusion reactor seems the most likely. Flywheels perhaps, but containment is an issue. (though rupturing a charged flywheel would create some excellent battlefield fireworks)

    2. Light yet Strong building material - current alloys are on the right track, but so far the magic strength/weight ratio has yet to be found

    3. Control methods - right now, even our most advanced robotics control is stilll slow and cubersome analog input- joysticks and buttons. Something along the line of either thought-reading or perhaps datasuits that mimic the pilot's limb motions.
  • Pop-eye arms? (Score:3, Funny)

    by Iamthefallen (523816) <Gmail name: Iamthefallen> on Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:18PM (#2851702) Homepage Journal

    And from the article, I thus quote:
    Kazerooni expects partial versions will hit the market first. "A factory worker might have just a pair of enhanced arms," he says. "There will be many job-specific applications for arms alone or legs alone."

    This is providing of course that said worker is strong enough to carry and support the enhanced arms, I can't help but wonder... If a man screams in agony in an empty factory after having his arms ripped from their sockets, will there be a sound?

  • Why wait? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by FastT (229526) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:22PM (#2851714) Homepage Journal
    Forget SpringWalker and these other technologies that aren't available yet--you can get a pair of PowerSkip [powerskip.de] boots today. These were posted on Slashdot last April 1st, and many people thought they were a joke; they aren't, and you can be out running around in them and jumping cars for around $800-1000.
    • Re:Why wait? by ImaLamer (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @08:08PM
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  • Screw a Segway .... by SirSlud (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:24PM
  • h4x0ring potential by Maskirovka (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:29PM
  • It already exists by JanneM (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:29PM
  • It's good to see science back on track. by cosmicg (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:30PM
  • blue screen of death by johnos (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:32PM
  • The AI part is kinda scary :o) by dmouritsendk (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:35PM
  • Turn it off, Grommit! (Score:3, Funny)

    by Jeremi (14640) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:35PM (#2851777) Homepage
  • Why? by adjusting (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:35PM
    • Re:Why? by buster (Score:1) Thursday January 17 2002, @03:37PM
  • Resistance is futile. by KILNA (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:36PM
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  • Ripley's loader by Tyrannosaurus (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:36PM
  • Before exoskeletons.... by Nick Smith (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:41PM
  • I just want to know... by StevenMaurer (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:42PM
  • Used by Special Forces (Score:3, Funny)

    by Dirtside (91468) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:43PM (#2851809) Homepage Journal
    Every time I hear "Special Forces", I always think of "Special Olympics."

    I probably shouldn't let the Special Forces guys hear me say tha*CRUNCH* AAGH! MY NECK!
  • BRING ON THE BUGS!! by Vikki_R. (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:45PM
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  • Some ideas. Feel free to reject. by Nick Smith (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:47PM
  • So what happens if it crashes? by Onnimikki (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:49PM
  • Could Slashdot Be Legally Responsible by aztektum (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:52PM
  • Wow! by Nick Smith (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:53PM
  • You can count on even more terrorism... by Pig Hogger (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:57PM
  • MechWarrior by nvrrobx (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:58PM
  • More DoD Pork! by coltrane99 (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @08:01PM
  • Can I borrow it for a day? (Score:3, Funny)

    by sid_vicious (157798) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @08:01PM (#2851879) Homepage Journal
    Is anybody else dying to borrow this thing [discover.com] for a day, and track down some of the people who picked on you during high school?

    Give *me* an atomic wedgie, will you?!

    Maybe it's just me...
    :-)
  • What's Been Discovered Here... by MBCook (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @08:06PM
  • For disabilities by hether (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @08:14PM
  • They're going about this backwards. by BlackGriffen (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @08:19PM
  • Forget Heinlein's Starship Troopers... by gold23 (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @08:25PM
  • earliest known movie 'exoskeleton'? by Prof. FÜHL (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @08:27PM
  • Antimatter power units? by Genjuro Kibagami (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @08:49PM
  • I predict . . . by Ezubaric (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @09:08PM
  • Powdered Exoskeletons by Funkeriffic Toad (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @09:14PM
  • Slashdot took this over my submission? by t0qer (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @09:49PM
  • Skinning this cat... by long_john_stewart_mi (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @09:58PM
  • Metal Gear Solid Ninja is coming! by ComputerTito (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @10:06PM
  • Um.. by Yahiko (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @10:29PM
  • For Nurses in Japan by SoftwareJuggler (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @10:40PM
  • Starship Troopers by yunfat (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @11:16PM
  • It's not entirely new... by LentilZha (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @11:27PM
  • human limitations? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Kanasta (70274) on Wednesday January 16 2002, @11:44PM (#2852681)
    Assume we did have perfectly working exoskeletons.

    In heavy lifting, how would the weight be transferred from arms to feet? It looks like the arms module is separate from the feet module, which does not touch the ground. So would the soldier's spine be able to cope with the weight? Would his feet?

    Now the superhuman running. Would the soldier's knees and other joints be able to move fluidly at high speed for the extended time?
  • Stephen Hawking has one by Torgo's Pizza (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @11:45PM
  • Let's not forget... by wiresquire (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @11:49PM
  • I'm ready by soupforare (Score:1) Thursday January 17 2002, @12:14AM
  • Lets be rational about this by josh crawley (Score:1) Thursday January 17 2002, @12:46AM
  • Someone wake me when they're here by IronChef (Score:2) Thursday January 17 2002, @01:48AM
  • About the whole efficiency issue... by PhReaKyDMoNKeY (Score:1) Thursday January 17 2002, @03:29AM
  • Another article ... by Basje (Score:1) Thursday January 17 2002, @03:41AM
  • The Centurions by Zaphy42 (Score:1) Thursday January 17 2002, @04:35AM
  • Tomb the Giant Dwarf by dreamsinter (Score:1) Thursday January 17 2002, @05:00AM
  • Faster than a speeding bullet by Treeluvinhippy (Score:1) Thursday January 17 2002, @05:27AM
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  • Yet another Heinlein concept by dar (Score:1) Thursday January 17 2002, @10:15AM
  • So this means that we'll... by shinnyo (Score:1) Thursday January 17 2002, @10:37AM
  • non-military uses??? by nkuzmik (Score:1) Thursday January 17 2002, @11:52AM
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  • Re:Sounds Like Heinlein's Startroopers by slugfro (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:22PM
  • Re:Fallout [1,2,Tactics] by Robert1 (Score:1) Wednesday January 16 2002, @07:29PM
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  • Re:No way! by xmedar (Score:2) Wednesday January 16 2002, @08:26PM
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