Terminator 3: Attack of the Terminatrix

jinx_ was among many who wrote in to say: "Arnold Schwarzenegger" is back for another installment of the Terminator Franchise. Reportedly a $30 million payday for Arnold.

Re:Movies about robots are always good.

Can you explain to me exactly how a movie about a killer cyborg beamed back from the future to protect the to-be savior of humanity is supposed to help the public have a greater understanding of robotics and artificial intelligence? The first two Terminator movies I saw bore nothing even similar to reality.

If you're referring to movies educating people then I don't want to live in a world where such a thing happens. Remember how everyone was suddenly an expert on viruses after a string of crappy movies [imdb.com] came out in the mid-'90s? Remember how everyone was screaming about how we needed to set up a terrestrial defense system after a couple of even [imdb.com] crappier [imdb.com] movies came out a few years ago?

Such movies do nothing but foster a chicken little syndrome in the public at large. Hollywood has never relied on anything like historical accuracy [imdb.com] or facts [imdb.com] to get in the way of a story. If we expect people to be educated about or become aware of issues because of what they see in a movie then this world is indeed in a very sorry state.

I think the best we can expect to see out of this is the usual two-minute story on the local late-night news: "KILLER ROBOTS TAKING OVER THE WORLD! Can this happen here?" - followed by stock interviews with the guys from the MIT AI Lab [mit.edu].

Re:Where can the story go after T2?

my guess is that transparency or super-camoflage will be T3 feature.

The Teminatrix's secret weapon? Alpha Blending!!! I wonder if she'll have an nVidea logo on her forhead.

Get J.Lo to be the Terminatrix... she's already got a huge heat-sink of an ass

(stop me before I joke again....)

IMBD has had this for a while.

Here is the link to Terminator 3 on IMDB [imdb.com].

For some reason they seem to have movie info MONTHS before everyone else finds out about it.

Want to find out if there will be a sequel to your favorite move? Check out IMDB. I saw the austin power sequels about 6 - 8 months (including casting) before anyone else found out.

hm... maybe Arnold will give some of his money to the EFF [eff.org]

Re:IMBD has had this for a while.

Yes IMBD is great. But Corona [corona.bc.ca] is the defacto standard for upcoming movie information. IMDB gets a lot of their information from Corona. And it's from Vancouver where all movies are made [bcfilmcommission.com] these days.

Re:Lousy idea

that's rediculous.

Everyone knows that a T3 will be 28.7 times better than T1. Just look at the number of individual channels.

~z

Terminatrix? PC or Sex Scene?

Are they actually going to make this a Politically Correct type of movie? A Terminatrix? Or did they just need a reason for a sex scene?

It just seems funny. The first movie had an obvious heroine and hero; they both served their roles and made the audience happy by creating a loving relationship while also doing neat action sequences and screaming as a strange, mechanized killer attacked them. But this?

Possible Plot:

Terminatrix Seduction:
The entire plot of the movie rests in the fact that a 20-something male, as commented in the article, has absolutely no power over his... organs... and will fall easily into the hands of an incredily beautiful woman who asks him on a rather cordial date. I don't see how she could lose with this strategy.

Terminatrix-PC:
A new black Conner (to try to promote gender equality) is paired with Jackie Chan and Arnold Schwartz to provide the ultimate in "inclusive" casting. The Terminatrix will have the ability to morph into whatever type of socially unrepresented class happens to present itself, allowing for quick and easy resolution of unsatisfied audience demographic.

Re:terminatrix?

LOL... Someone get Jenna Jameson on the phone and let her know we have a mainstream movie role for her.

Aging robots...

Wow, they're going to need some amazing make-up artists! Old robots might rust, but they won't wrinkle! ;)

4th Law of Robotics...

A robot must protect the existence of the movie franchise as long as it does not conflict with the First or Second (or Zeroth) Law.

Some searching...

First of all, it's hard to post at all because Willow is on and it's hard to divert my attention.

Concerning Terminator 3, my griend Google me that Linda Hamilton will not be returning [ign.com], Eddie Furlong will be playing John Conner [corona.bc.ca], is titled Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines [cinecon.com], could possible star Chyna (WWF) [usatoday.com], will not be directed by James Cameron [go.com], up untill this past June there were talks that Ed Norton would be playing John Conner [clara.net], and NoChickTrix [nochicktrix.com] will not be featured but is deffinatly worth checking out.

He's gettin' old

I'll have to agree that good ole Arnie is getting a little too old for this stuff.

"I'll be back... just after I get this hip replacement"

Messin' with the plots

You know, the last planet of the Apes movie that Charlton Heston made included blowing up the planet at the end. Some interviews said that this was so that it would be THE END of the saga. And then they made another.

They sort of tied up ALL the loose ends in the previous movie as well...it will sort of make the plot not as good to make another.

On the other hand, there are hundreds of Conan books, and lots of plots to choose from. Sword & Sorcery is a classic genre. I wouldn't mind if he (or someone else) made a few more of those. Heck, they could make twenty or thirty of them. I'd watch them when I wanted to see an action movie.

While I'm at it, I might as well mention a few other good movies that could easily have more sequels that I would like to see.

Ghostbusters (probably need different guys)
Tron (same idea, but with modern computer systems)
They Live! [toptown.com](I wanna see more of that fight scene - MUCH better than matrix)
HHGTG (except for make it a REAL movie this time)

They did NOT tie up all the loose ends!

Even after watchin T2 the first time, I noticed the sequel-opportunity. Notice how, at one point, Arnold gets his robotic arm ripped off by a big gear in a factory. Also notice that later on, when he's saying bye-bye, going into the molten metal pool, he doesn't have that lost arm with him.

So, what happened in the original Terminator for the sequel to happen? Uh, the robot lost its arm in a factory, which was later on found by computer scientists and used to create the AI that would end up fucking humanity's shit up. Sound familiar?

Re:Oh, that's easy...

Good point -- I just wrote "rampaging cyborg" into my Disaster Recovery plans. It's right after "alien invasion" (Use the PowerBook[TM] to defeat them) and right before "irradiated lizard-beast" (Send in the paleontologist). Here's hoping the suits sign off.

Re:Screen play?

We can work it out logically. IIRC it went like this:
T1 - Arnie is trying to kill John Conner
T2 - Arnie is trying to save John Connor

The only logical conclusion is that in T3, Arnie is completely indifferent to the fate of John Connor.

Record Budget

The overall cost of bringing "T3" to the screen has reportedly been placed at $165 million to $180 million, which would easily eclipse the record $135 million believed spent to make "Pearl Harbor."

Star Peep
Dateline: Costner Ranch

Kevin Costner has issued a statement concerning the new "Terminator" movie's record-breaking budget of $165-$180 million.
"$180 million is NOTHING compared to my new movie. Just as we did in Waterworld and the Postman, we will break new ground in budgetary extravagance with my offering of the "Sanitationer!" This 5 hour opus details the struggle of an Assistant Sidewalk Sanitizer to uphold the American Dream in the face of a Post-Apocalyptic Breakdown of the United States Government due to Electronic Piracy. The movie will follow him, (played by me, Kevin Costner), from his first day on the street, to his final, gloriously uplifting confrontation with the bad guy. We are up to $249 million, and we haven't even added the bazookas yet!"

When asked if the job of a Assistant Sidewalk Sanitizer was picking up dog droppings, he replied, "Well, at first it is."

Secret Weapon

The human's finally beat the machines once and for all with their deadly secret weapon...
The /. effect!

Re:Terminator: Infiltrator?

SOMEONE MUST HAVE DESIGNED THEM

Assuming that history can be changed, yes, someone had to design them. And they did, just in an alternate universe that we didn't get to see.

On the other hand, it is consistent, if you assume that the past cannot be changed, for the technology to have no inventors. Information need not be conserved in time-travel interactions.

This isn't a paradox. A paradox is self-inconsistent. But you can also have consistent loops where effects are their own causes. This is an orthogonal concept, so they have been called "perpendoxes".

Anyway, if you care about this sort of thing, check out my time travel page [telocity.com].

Re:Old news

Someone mod this guy down as his "+1 Information" is incorrect information. This isn't old news; maybe it is old rumor.

No studio has agreed to pick this pic up yet. No money has been paid out to start making it. No footage of Arnie has been shot yet.

From the current article:

According to entertainment trade paper Daily Variety, the producers behind the project have set their asking price at $50 million, plus half of the gross receipts generated from the film. Sources told Reuters Friday that talks could wrap by early this week. Assuming a deal goes through, production would begin in April with Jonathan Mostow, who directed the submarine war flick "U-571," succeeding James Cameron at the helm of the latest "Terminator." Variety has put Mostow's fee at more than $5 million. The film is seen as a potential "tentpole" picture for the summer of 2003, and studio interest is keen given that "Terminator 2: Judgment Day" grossed more than $500 million worldwide after its 1991 release. Experts say a franchise with such proven box-office clout normally has a studio home by the time it gets to its third outing. "Almost every studio in town ... is looking to handle domestic rights to this picture," one person with knowledge of the talks told Reuters. "Over the last few days, this has been the hottest property in Hollywood."