Dr Who, Daleks Kiss And Make Up 221
Dynamoo writes "The BBC is reporting that the creators of the new series of Doctor Who due next year have reached an agreement with the estate of the late Terry Nation to include the Daleks in the new series. This means that I'll definitely be watching.. although whether from behind the sofa or not remains to be seen." We previously reported on the apparent exterminate-ion of the lovable pepperpots from this new version.
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Re:Terry Nation probably thought.... (Score:3, Informative)
Unlike the alien from the film 'Alien', they actually _couldn't_ be played by a man in a rubber suit.
Re:Terry Nation probably thought.... (Score:3, Informative)
Tim Hancock, Terry Nation's former Agent and boss of "The Nation Estate" for
Re:Terry Nation probably thought.... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Terry Nation probably thought.... (Score:3, Insightful)
A friend of mine had a theory that the whole upside down rubbish bin/garbage can thing was crucial to the popularity(?!) of the daleks. Any kid could put a bin on their head and *be* a dalek.
Yeah but... (Score:3, Insightful)
in fact, (Score:2, Interesting)
Best wardrobe, generally! Entire scenes of stories like 'The Aztecs' appear to have been casted, set and shot in the seedier kind of drag queen establishment, complete with makeup. The fact that any of the actors could keep a straight face just shows how talented they were!
DOn't get me wrong though, I love Doctor Who. It's still on tv every weeknight here (yes, we ARE that backward Down Here)...
Where Did the Daleks Go In the Meantime? (Score:5, Funny)
During the hiatus, the Daleks did a little-known movie called "Mr. Dalek Goes to Washington."
Here is a still from the movie. [pipian.com]
"Expatiate!"
Re:Where Did the Daleks Go In the Meantime? (Score:3)
Re:Where Did the Daleks Go In the Meantime? (Score:3, Funny)
YAY (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:YAY (Score:2, Funny)
I saw Darl and intellectual property in the same sentence. Thought I wandered into the wrong section in Slashdot.
Re:YAY (Score:3, Informative)
B-Movie? Sterotype? No! Dalek Empire [doctorwho.co.uk] is now in its third series. The first was excellent - I just need to sort out my budget to get the rest.
Re:YAY (Score:2)
Re:YAY (Score:2)
Well, not a big *dalek* fan, and too lazy to break out a video tape and see how Terry Nation spelt it in the 50s. Besides, Darl-eks & intellectual property? "Exterminate the Penquin!"
Re:YAY (Score:3, Interesting)
Classic hyper-correction. What do you want to bet that the poster speaks a dialect that drops the R's after vowels. Such speakers tend to stick random "silent R's" in words, because they can't figure out the rhyme or reason behind which words have R's in them and which words don't.
So really, why do we need, *need* them? (Score:5, Insightful)
Rather than take the series in an interesting and new direction, we're essentially getting the same series but with better F/X. Why not just have The Master and the Daleks in every episode?
Don't get me wrong, I love the Daleks but it was the occasionally very superb writing that got me, not any specific villians.
Re:So really, why do we need, *need* them? (Score:2)
Re:So really, why do we need, *need* them? (Score:2)
There's also the Five Doctors, which featured a mishmash of historical adversaries, including the Master, a cyberman, a dalek, a yeti...
Re:So really, why do we need, *need* them? (Score:2, Funny)
They tried to be in it, but after several attempts decided that the pyramids were to steep to go up.
Let's hope the Daleks have some cool rocket jets in the next series.
Re:So really, why do we need, *need* them? (Score:2)
Better F/X? But wouldn't that ... (Score:2, Insightful)
But wouldn't that ruin it? I'm not a True Fan, but I thought "camp" was an integral part of the show.
Re:Better F/X? But wouldn't that ... (Score:3, Insightful)
As long as they don't bring them to the level of the later Star Trek series or Stargate SG-1... I'll be happy with it.
Re:Better F/X? But wouldn't that ... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Better F/X? But wouldn't that ... (Score:2)
Back in those days you didn't need special effects because kids still had imaginations. Now, if the film doesn't actually show the 'plot' in detailed brain-dead-o-color(tm) then the kids don't get it!
It was the writing and acting that set the scenes and it simply didn't matter if the scenes wobbled when the cast walked past! Unfortunately, expectations have been raised and it will likely be ruined by too many expensive F/X and the cost of cheap plots and actors.
Wait a second... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Wait a second... (Score:5, Funny)
I hear the breakthrough was reached... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I hear the breakthrough was reached... (Score:2)
Your standard model slag pit comes without stairs, thank you.
Re:I hear the breakthrough was reached... (Score:2)
~cHris
Thank God (Score:4, Funny)
This is a bad thing... (Score:4, Interesting)
First it was half assed covers of songs I used to love (thanks a lot Jessica Simpson), then Doom 3, now this. I'm starting to think that trying to keep nostalgia alive isn't worth the risk of stunting the growth of such a promising franchise.
Re:This is a bad thing... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:This is a bad thing... (Score:2)
Next thing I know Journey won't be cool anymore and George Michael will be openly gay.
It never was. (Score:2)
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Re:This is a bad thing... (Score:2)
So either way, you're going to have people pissed off. At least this way you get to see old time favorites recreated with a new vision.
It Must Be Late (Score:3, Funny)
Why would you WANT to bring the Daleks back? (Score:5, Insightful)
The Daleks were an idea that ran out of gas after the initial Dalek craze of the early '60s ran its course in the UK. Since then, a Dalek serial has been a guaranteed bad time. They're more a curse to Doctor Who than a blessing, and the real challenge for any new Who series would be trying to reinvent them into something truly chilling and remotely plausible to a contemporary audience. It's possible I suppose, but Who's past producers tried and failed for almost 20 years to produce a Dalek serial as engaging to modern audiences as original Dalek adventures like "Dalek Invasion Earth" were to audiences in the early '60s. I think they'd be better off ignoring the Daleks - and particularly the Davros character, who has been unnecessarily and ludicrously dredged into every Dalek adventure since 1975's "Genesis" - and concentrating on creating compelling new enemies for the Doctor to fight.
And if they must revisit the past, they'd be far better off reimaging more plausible Who adversaries, like the Sontarans (reptilian clone warriors) and the Cybermen (televised sci-fi's original Borg).
With the power vested in me, (Score:3, Funny)
Re:With the power vested in me, (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Why would you WANT to bring the Daleks back? (Score:2, Funny)
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Re:Why would you WANT to bring the Daleks back? (Score:2)
And not forgetting Harry Enfield playing Davros' brother, Stavros ... Alright matey peeps - O B E Y.
Re:Why would you WANT to bring the Daleks back? (Score:3, Interesting)
The Daleks tend to be only as good as the people writing for them. They're at their best when used as part of some sort of metaphorical purpose: Terry Nation's "Genesis of the Daleks" likened them to the Nazis, and drew heavy parallels between their creation and the rise of the Third Reich. Ben Aaro
Re:Why would you WANT to bring the Daleks back? (Score:2)
>to be the best of the post-1960s Dalek stories.
Yeah, and that says a lot about how awful the other post-'60s Dalek serials were. While it sports a creepy atmosphere in the first episode, "Genesis" grows boring as hell and dismally oppressive in spots - like most Who 6-part serials the middle is hopelessly padded - and many of the guest performances are wretched. It becomes less enjoyable than endurable. Tom Baker doesn't have a good handle
Re:Why would you WANT to bring the Daleks back? (Score:3, Informative)
>are more plausable enemies - the first a race devoted to
>war but unable to do anything about that little vent on
>the back of the neck and the second vulnerable to any
>opponent that can rustle up some gold and a cheesegrater.
Oh, I agree - they both need work as well. Those Achilles heels the writers built into the races were silly 20 years ago.
I just think there's more there to work with than there is with the Daleks. The original co
Call me sceptical, but... (Score:2)
Re:No but can I call you a... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:No but can I call you a... (Score:2)
sheesh (Score:2)
Re:sheesh (Score:2)
Suggest you also avoid getting your knickers in a twist about words that look like they should have a "z" in them, but actually have an "s".
Re:No but can I call you a... (Score:2)
Those that live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.
Nitpicking for the Brits... (Score:2, Troll)
No, I am not British, but I figured SOMEBODY had to defend them
Totally offtopic factoid: (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Nitpicking for the Brits... (Score:2, Insightful)
The story should read "The BBC are..."
BBC [wikipedia.org] = British Broadcasting Corporation
"The British Broadcasting Corporation are"?
I'm pretty sure the original wording were correct. ;-)
Re:Nitpicking for the Brits... (Score:2)
"Practical English Usage, New Edition, Oxford University Press, 1997" specifically lists the BBC as an example of a gr
Re:Nitpicking for the Brits... (Score:2)
Re:Nitpicking for the Brits... (Score:2)
Shouldn't that be No, we are not British ???
That's how Queen Victoria would have said it and you can't get any more British than the Queen
Re:Nitpicking for the Brits... (Score:2)
This is the same Queen Victoria whose immediate ancestors were German [begent.net] and who married a German?
Only asking.
Re:Nitpicking for the Brits... (Score:3, Informative)
Note the login. (Score:5, Funny)
The amazing thing was... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:The amazing thing was... (Score:2)
~cHris
Douglass Adams wrote for Dr. Who (Score:3, Interesting)
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Re:Douglass Adams wrote for Dr. Who (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Douglass Adams wrote for Dr. Who (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/tv/littlebritain/
aedan
Re:Douglass Adams wrote for Dr. Who (Score:3, Informative)
Good Old Tom (Score:2)
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Scary? (Score:2)
Hopefully... (Score:2)
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Who are the Daleks? (Score:2)
If only there were (Score:2)
I should patent that! naaa it would never catch on.
Re:Who are the Daleks? (Score:2, Informative)
Thatcherism across time and space (Score:5, Funny)
The BBC has broken the strike over terms and conditions for the Daleks. Apparently the Cybermen began crossing the picket lines in unmarked coaches, while the Daleks pelted them with rotten fruit, shouting "SCABS
As part of the deal, thirty-seven gravel pits will close.
An Equity union representative, speaking of behalf of the Daleks, said "This is a sad time for the Daleks, but at the end of the day, they have bills to pay, and the electricity for the genetic embryo chambers doesn't come cheap."
The strike-busting Cybermen are understood to have had their contracts terminated early in favour of the new hovering Dalek Battletank design, previously only seen in paperback. The Cyberman leader said "THE DALEKS MAY HAVE WON THIS BATTLE BUT OUR EMPIRE WILL CONTINUE TO EXPAND."
Meanwhile a dispute is believed to have broken out inside the Dalek camp, with the Supreme Dalek unhappy at the terms negotiated by Davros. In a news conference earlier, Davros said "This marks the next generation of the Kaled race. We have evolved beyond rails, beyond wheels, beyond low-budget bluescreen CGI hovering awkwardly up stairs. Although I'm sorry to see Ace go, she was rather fit, wasn't she, and she still looks hot in those childrens' programmes she presents."
The Supreme Dalek was unavailable for comment, although he was earlier overheard saying "I
Re:Thatcherism across time and space (Score:2)
And in late breaking news, the CBC has decided to franchise Dr. Who from the BBC. Their first episode, "The Dalek Invasion of Detroit".
Watch Daleks swarm the Ambassador Bridge, zapping toll keepers on the way.
Watch Daleks ride the elevator to the top of the Ren Cen!
Watch Daleks runing amok through a vast urban wasteland.
(True to movie tradition it will actually be shot in Dallas.)
Re:Thatcherism across time and space (Score:2)
(True to movie tradition it will actually be shot in Dallas.)
Actually, some of the new series is being shot with Cardiff standing in for London (the series is being produced by BBC Wales). Although they are doing some London shooting, probably due to Cardiff's lack of London landmarks.
Animated Dr. Who series (Score:4, Interesting)
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Is it just me? (Score:3, Funny)
I think it's common geek issue that they can see all the threads of thought so quickly that, to non-geeks, often their comments seem as non-sequitrs, until the comment is explained.
That being said, is it just me or did anyone else suddenly get the image of the article poster running around with a baseball bat, smashing aluminum trash cans and anything else that looked remotely like a Dalek?
I can't be the only Python fanatic here (Score:4, Funny)
Am I the only one here who first thought of Monty Python pepperpots when I saw this? You know, the 'middle aged, middle class women' who first demonstrated that you can't tell the difference between Wizzo butter and a dead crab.
The most disturbing thing for me was trying to figure out where these pepperpots might have appeared. I mean, on one hand they'd certainly make a powerful adversary for the poor doctor, but on the other hand can't you just see a couple of them following him around as sidekicks?
- Look, Mrs Conclusion! The Cybermen and Daleks have united againstus!
- Oooh! Well I never. And they used to be such nice people. I mean, society today. Young people. Ooooh. Tut tut tut.
Noims
Re:I could never get into it (Score:4, Funny)
Please turn in your UID and report for reeducation.
Re:I could never get into it (Score:2)
Re:I could never get into it (Score:2)
Or, in the spirit of the topic, this translates as
YOU WILL BE EXCOMMUNICATED!!!
Re:I could never get into it (Score:2)
I love Doctor Who, but I can understand where you are comming from. The format is that of a vintage 50s cliff hanger. It's something that I didn't understand watching it in the states as PBS typicaly showed an entire story at a time. If you don't like old classic science fiction then Doctor Who is difficult to get into.
The only way I could get no fans even to watch
Re:I could never get into it (Score:2)
Battlestar Ponderosa was just BAD...
Dr. Who reminds me of some of the Inspector Morse series, in that about halfway through it starts not making any sense. I suppose it has something to do with subtle language differences or perhaps just the peculiar way Brits think...
Re:I could never get into it (Score:2)
We used to call it Cattlecar Bonanza. And have you noticed that SciFi Channel will be doing a new version next year? Frightful thought....
Re:News ? (Score:3, Insightful)
Although, to be fair, it certainly is also "stuff by/for nerds"....
Re:Slashdot being consistent as usual (Score:2)
or Maybe they get lots, and lots of submissions, so may in fact, it basically is a random drawing of whose gets picked.
naw, they must hate you.
It's not like you get anything. Of course I have had 1/2 dozen of my submission selected.
Isn't that cool? no, actualy it's not. should you care? no.
Maybe I should put that on my resume?
Re:Slashdot being consistent as usual (Score:2)
slashdot is becoming ever more irellevant as time passes, it's gone from being my "first coffee and cigarette while reading slashdot" morning wake up to "ok, 30 minutes to kill, been to ebay, trawled usenet, lets see what stories slashdot is repeating today."
Re:Maybe the new series will address.... (Score:2)
*note - not actually true
Re:Maybe the new series will address.... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Gay Dalek cartoon?!? (Score:2)
Re:Gay Dalek cartoon?!? (Score:2)
He didn't get them first time, which pissed off Terry Nation's estate no end, hence why the new negotiations took so long. Sure, they're control freaks, but they've learned that if they don't take control, they end up with shoddy parodies, and it's a short walk from there to panto.
Re:omg! dalek pron! (Score:2)