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Comment Re:Wait, you don't mean... (Score 1) 31

Also, for about 1 year out of the 4 years of manual drafting I took in school, the exercises were mainly in decimal feet, so we measured tenths instead of inches. The rest it was all decimal inches and thousandths (thou) because we were drawing smaller things.

America is a strange land with strange customs. (an entire customary system!)

Comment Re:Alternatively ... (Score 1) 216

Go to bed at night, and get up in the morning, at the same 'natural times' every day regardless of what the clock is set to. Move an hour of chores from evenings to mornings if you are awake too early for school or work. DST or not might have to be an issue for school, work, and shopping. It doesn't have to define sleep.

So when we are on permanent DST, I have to go to work late in December? Or at 4 in the morning during the summer? And across time zones and latitudes, making corrections for everyone?

Sorry, but perhaps in prehistoric times up to the early 1700's your "natural" system might work. It definitely does not in an interconnected world. A whole lot of us have to know what time people show up for work in cities and countries we communicate with. Example: One place I would call was on the west coast. Their workday was 7:30 to 4:30. They were 3 hours behind my time. So if I need to call them at my time, I have to wait until 10:30 Eastern Time. If I have to call Mumbai Adding an element of randomness is just going to make the juggling worse

Comment Re:Can we extract? (Score 1) 64

Not sure what your point is against a reality like that.

My point is that you're deluded.

Society deluding itself by painting personal experiences as the statistical norm, is how we managed to create a situation where even the liberal goalposts can't keep up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Comment Re:Summary ... (Score 1) 216

People sure are afraid of change - this is what led to DST in the first place instead of doing the right thing and adjusting school and work hours in the summer. So that means that parents have to change their work schedule, and it would change constantly. Seems like a solution that causes more problems.

You think changing the clocks twice a year fixes everything?

Of course it doesn't. Low latitudes have almost no difference in day night cycle, and the higher you go in latitude, the more the dy night cycle shits over teh year, and at the highest latitudes, no adjustment is actually possible that would do anything.

We have modern tech that lets us have flexible scheduling, even schools are now flexible enough that on bad weather days the children take classes from home (yes that is proving to not work but the tech is here). So your fix is making working parents continually change their workday, and hiring an au pair? And each day will be a little different. What is more, everyone who works will have to calculate the start time for any place they call. If I need an answer when I get into work, but the person I'm calling won't be in for another hour, that's cray cray.

Sounds more like chaos to me.

I had an assistant who at one point would call me when I was out of town. He'd call at 8:00 East coast time, while I was on the west coast. 5:00 in the morning. After the fifth time, I told him I was going to smack him if he did it again when I got back. Three hours difference.

Now your solution amps that up to the point of randomness. Time zones is fairly simple. Time zones plus different times of work depending on latitude - that's just chaos.

Keep the time where it belongs - unchanging - and fix your work and school hours to match the time of year. This is no longer a problem with modern technology that is stuck on your nose all day - thanks to the smart phone we no longer need the dumb clock gymnastics that is DST.

Here's a solution for you. Universal coordinated time. UCT is the same time around the world. You don't have to ever change what time it is. Then you can do the adjusting in your work times, and you don't have to guess what time it is to do business. I use UCT all the time, because my business is all around the world. If DST is an insufferable experience, You'd faint in the gymnastics needed to say, find a time to call Mumbai, and would have a heart attack when you found to that some places are actually tomorrow at times while you are at some time today.

Comment Re:Summary ... (Score 1) 216

You make it sound like not having DST is terrible, but most of the world doesn't bother with it.

It's basically Europe, the US, and a few random others including half of Australia for some reason. Everyone else gets by just fine without DST, and much of the world gave it up when they stopped being colonies.

Look up the differences between latitudes.

Why don't we all have our personal times? Don't let the man tell you what time it is. 8^)

Comment Re:Summary ... (Score 1) 216

It's no surprise that most Slashdotters have lost their sense of wonder, as they've forgotten what it was like to be children.

Despite DST existing, I clearly remember waiting for the bus in the dark for part of the year.

DST doesn't do what it's supposed to do, and it kills people. It's weird to celebrate that.

You are a rather solipsistic fellow aren't you? You never got on or off a bus in the dark so no one does. Look up the day night cycles. Here in PA, the sunrise is at 7:35 A.M. on December 30th. Add permanent DST, and it becomes 8:35 And it gets worse further north. https://sunrise-sunset.org/ Consider other people

Right, DST kills people. Here's your problem. If DST kills people, then why aren't people who regularly shift time zones drop over dead? I regularly did 3 time zone shifts, back and forth between the home in the east, and the west coast, even some to Alaska. I got on a plane, and got off a plane, and no one died.

I had Jet lag, for sure, but never felt ill, just a little strange.

If one hour kills people, then 3 or 4 hour shifts should have a greater effect. Explain why not?

Comment Re:What is left to change besides oven and microwa (Score 1) 216

What is left to change besides oven and microwave times?

One...the most IMPORTANT one....my internal clock....

That really takes close to a week to get fixed every time.....it throws all of us humans off to some degree.

Oh...and my dog....I have to adjust her schedule twice a year too....

It does that, but a lot of us regularly shift several time zones and back.

Jet lag is real and it doesn't feel all that great. But it is the price we pay. On short trips, I could just keep my regular cycle. If it was longer than a week, the body just adapts no matter how hard I try.

What is interesting to me is that after a career with a lot of extensive time zone shifts. a one hour change doesn't bother me at all.

Probably the biggest PITA is dealing with the pets. I try to just adapt a bit earlier or later, each day, until they are on what the think is their schedule aligns with the clock again

Comment Re:Summary ... (Score 1) 216

I seem to be in a small minority on this issue

Skipping the mod points to specifically agree. The time switch has always been a minor thing to me. It's effectively crossing *one* time zone.

And I regularly felt coast to coast USA, That three time zone difference should have killed me outright, if the westward flight didn't coming back east should have. Here's the truth. The earth is a oblate spheroid rotating on a tilted axis relative to the sun.

As it orbits the sun, that tilt creates different light/dark cycles. over the course of the orbit

Near the equator, there is not much difference over the course of the year. And it is not unusual for people living there to find the clock changes silly.

As the latitude increases, people there experience larger and larger changes in teh day/night respective lengths. Here in PA, it is significant, some hours one way or the other between summer and winter.

A bit further, like say Canadian cities, it becomes even more extreme. DST to ST? . You'll probably Go to work in the dark, and drive home in the dark. But it still helps

Finally, at the really high latitudes, no amount of correction helps. Their summers, there is no dark cycle, and the winters, no light cycles.

We tried permanent Daylight savings time during the Arab Oil Crisis. And people hated it, we went back to ST/DST pretty quickly.

Oddly enough, permanent DST was sold as the way to save money on fuel. It didn't. Some politicians seemed to even think that it would somehow make the day longer. I do not see that the general IQ and smarts these days.

So we have stupid people wanting permanent DST, we have ostensibly smart people who didn't think about the latitude issue, and solipsistic people living at low latitudes that don't care about those at the higher latitudes.

Comment Re:Fundamental physics has never been more dead (Score 4, Funny) 19

"Okay, nuclear power. Yeah. Yeah, they did give us that. That's true. "

"And industrial-scale superconducting magnets!"

"Don't forget GPS satellite relativistic corrections!"

"And radioisotope therapy!"

"Electron beam therapy?"

"World Wide Web, wasn't that created by particle physicists?"

"Yeah, they did do that."

"Capacitative touchscreens too, you know."

"All right, all right, FAIR ENOUGH! But APART from computers, telecommunications, nuclear power, PET scans, MRIs, satellite communications, superconductors, radioisotope therapy, electron beam therapy, heat-shrink tubing, cargo and baggage screening, smoke detectors, muon tomography, capacitative touchscreens, and the World Wide Web, WHAT HAS PARTICLE PHYSICS EVER DONE FOR US?!"

"Synchrotron light sources for drug discovery?"

"Oh, drug discovery?! GROW UP!"

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