New KDE 3.5.5 Features 1,200 Changes 98
lisah writes "Just two months after its last update, KDE has released a new maintenance and bugfix update. KDE 3.5.5 boasts over 1,200 changes including speed improvements to KHTML, an update of Kopete 0.12.3, support for Adium themes, and improved support for Yahoo! and Jabber IM protocols. KDE 3.5.5 also now offers extensive support for over 65 languages. Just a day after the release of 3.5.5, developers say they are already looking toward the release of KDE4, which will include improvements in multimedia, hardware integration, and more." (Linux.com and Slashdot are both part of OSTG.)
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Which is why it was ALSO posted in the Linux section! Duh!
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D'oh!
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how did they count? (Score:1)
and yes, I did not RTFA
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What the article mentions, but the
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As the other guy mentioned 333 were bugs. From the article... 1,222 changes have gone into the release between 3.5.4 and 3.5.5 and 333 bugs have been marked as closed.
So basically they fixed 300 bugs and added 900 features. I'd be willing to bet that many of those are language enhancements that will never be seen by anyone except testers, since most peeps will be using KDE with one language.
I can't wait for the Gnome camp to come out of hibernation now and start spouting how evil KDE is and how they need
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kdesu
* Add sudo support. Fixes bug 20914. See SVN commit 570637.
(Whick is nice and all, but definitely counts as a feature addition rather than a bugfix IMO. Remember, bug trackers aren't always just for bugs.)
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There SVN commits are to 483 unique files. (cat kdebase.txt [kde.org]|grep branches|sed 's/*/
But total number of lines are 1586 (wc kdebase.txt)
Draw your own conclusions. (I have mine
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Only in America they say.
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and it was color before *that*
From Merriam-Webster:
Main Entry: 1color
Pronunciation: 'k&-l&r
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English colour, from Anglo-French, from Latin color; akin to Latin celare to conceal
I love it when British-English fanboys start talking up the 'seniority' of their dialect.
-chris
P.S. See also my rant [slashdot.org] about English dialects (yes, they are *all* dialects)
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This is pretty much confined to the South-East of England (perhaps into the Midlands? Not sure). It's certainly not in "most British dialects".
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Well, to be fair though I studied Linguistics I did not specialize in Anglo-Saxon Studies and I have a relatively general background in the history of English so I'll happily admit I'm not *that* familiar with the dialectology of the British Isles.
I just
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This is pretty much confined to the South-East of England (perhaps into the Midlands? Not sure). It's certainly not in "most British dialects".
Huh? The british dialects pronounce a hard "r" at the end of a syllable (eg "colour" or "over") are definitely in a minority.
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Been using it for a week (Score:2)
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BUT! Now Konqueror comes with an easy to use AdBlock thing! There's now a filter icon on the bottom, and you can create/modify rules from there just like the Adblock extension.
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Misleading summary (Score:4, Informative)
I'm not an expert on grammar so I may have misread the summary myself, but KDE 4 has actually been being developed for a good while now. Pretty much all of KDE has been ported to using Qt4, DBus has replaced DCOP, etc. Lots of work on the new frameworks in KDE4 has also being accomplished, as well as improvements to the already existing ones as well.
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Kopete (Score:5, Insightful)
However, I wish they had spent their time making Kopete compatible with Gaim's plugin architecture rather than a basically glitzy UI improvement. At least last time I checked, Kopete was completely incompatible with OTR encryption, and it looked like it was going to stay that way. (The reason I heard was that something about the existing Kopete plugin structure doesn't allow plugins to actually orginate messages, just modify them as they pass through, and OTR uses specially crafted messages to initiate connections and resend data. Or something like that; don't quote me on it directly.)
Seems like the request is still open [kde.org] on Bugzilla, I encourage people to vote, as IMO this is a major limitation of Kopete versus Gaim. Kopete definitely looks nicer than Gaim, but it's not as functional because of that.
Actually, I'm not sure why they don't just rebuild Kopete to use the libgaim backend, like Adium does (and Proteus, and Fire...). Maybe there are good reasons for not using it, but it strikes me as serious wheel-reinvention.
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The open source desktop already has enou
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The fact that they waste their time adding useless skin support instead of fixing the thousands of bugs that must exist in the codebase is enough evidence that the developers have no idea what they should be prioritizing.
The real solution here is to forget kopete, and stick with gaim despite how ugly and non-kde it is
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Komplaint about Kopete. (Score:3, Interesting)
This I can live with because it is a variable that _I_ can change. Kudos to the team for realising that not everybody likes to do things _your_ way. Hrm, Gnome; take a look.
What I can't stand is a change to the code that eliminates a or space character at the end of a message. They have actually gone so far as to have the code actively delete and space or null characters at the end of a message.
Gaim, and ICQ allow these actions by default. IMO i think Kopete devs went into a monkey-see monkey-do and just copied what MSN does.
For me the deal-breaker is the space-character issue. Since I (like many of you other
For example:
My desired Output:
Person 1: this is a sample message that I would type in an IM window (Enter)
(Enter)
Person 2: And this would be the reply, nicely seperated (visually) from the previous message.(Enter)
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Kopete's new-default behaviour.
Person 1: Now converstions can/will look very cluttered.
Person 2: Despite KDE's past behaviour of allowing users to setup whatever setting they wanted to use.
Person 1: I have spoken with the dev's on freenode, but they had a holier-then-thou attitude that was very similar to the heated conversations that took place regarding the ctrl+enter vs Enter 'send-message' debacle.
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Let's face it, typing an extra newline to let someone know you're done only makes any sense if all parties can see what every other party types as they type it. Otherwise, you know that someone's done typing when they hit the enter key.
It's not 19
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Would you suggest that we abandon using paragraphs completely because we don't need to seperate "chains-of-thought", or topics.
This has nothing to do with being stuck in the 80's but instead a complaint about developers intenionally crippling software.
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GNOME is falling futher behind. (Score:5, Interesting)
I think the biggest difference I noticed was its speed and responsiveness. One thing I notice with my GNOME 2.16 installation is that applications will sometimes gray out their entire window for perhaps half a second or so, often after maximizing the window or sometimes upon a dialog box opening. This just isn't the case with KDE. The GUI repaintings are near-instant, as far as I can tell.
The most impressive feature is their web browser, Konqueror. It completely shames Firefox, Galeon, and Epiphany. Besides being a lot faster, it used a whole lot less memory. At one point I had 16 tabs open (I counted them) and a download going, and according to top the memory usage never exceeded 45 MB. Meanwhile, I can open five of those same sites in tabs with Firefox 1.5.0.7, and memory usage skyrockets to 112 MB.
The CSS support of Konqueror is also better than that of Gecko. It passes the Acid2 test, which to the best of my knowledge, Gecko still cannot do.
KMail is another great application. I don't know exactly how to describe it, but its usability is far better than that of Thunderbird or Evolution. With the GNOME applications you have to take a moment to think about what you want to do, and how exactly to accomplish it, with KMail it's blatantly obvious. You just click instinctually, and often times it does what you want it to.
At this point, I think I might stick with KDE 3.5.5. I hadn't realized how poorly GNOME was competing, but now that I do, I don't really see any reason to go back to GNOME. Simply put, it cannot compete with KDE based on features, speed, responsiveness, and other significant factors.
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Especially the feature that reminds you to actually attach an attachment.
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This is almost identical to my experience. I tried KDE around 2000 and thought it was very, very lame. So I used GNOME for a few years, and then switched to XFCE on both my "fast" desktop and slow laptop.
Then one day (about a year ago, I guess?) I wanted to look at some KDE features so I installed it on my laptop, and found it wasn't that bad. XFCE
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I started using kmail when it could filter incoming mail on IMAP folders without require Sieve support on the IMAP server. Works pretty well, but has its warts here and there.
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Kopete has issues, but really is nice. (Score:2)
That said, I have 2 gripes.
Firstly, it seems to take up a relatively large amount of memory for what it does. I *just* fired it up, and it's allocating 121M with 45M resident (FreeBSD/AMD64). And that's with *only* 2 accounts being active (one Yahoo! and one Google). And after a day's work with those 2 accounts, it sometimes get way out of hand and I need
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I can't help you specifically, but I can say that I use kopete extens
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Last time I used KDE, my 512MB ram was immediatly overcommitted. I stopped using Linux/X partly because the memory requirements for good software have gone absolutely through the roof. I have a 768MB machine now that probably won't get upgraded for at least a couple more years, and Windows + it's apps are quite happy. (yeah, i swap about a gig and a half normally, but on this same box I needed 3gb of swap for linux/x/gnome)
Another reason I als
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KDE == explorer.exe? (Score:2)
Generally KDE is great. I use it on my Linux boxes and we use it in our labs. Konqueror is the best damn general purpose browser (except web) out there. It handles just about any protocol you can thing of and does a great job (except http) of it.
But it seems to me that KDE is starting to become more and more like the Windows "windows manager" where "one program" does it all. In Windows that would be explorer.
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Sure, there is Xfce running on it, and gaim, and opera, and xmms... so it's a screenshot of them all. I think that OpenBSD/Xfce/gaim/opera/xmms screenshot counts as a screenshot as all of the above.
What's your problem with it?
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I could just open photoshop and type random nonsense and it would be just as proven a screenshot. You don't like that the prior images cannot be proven to be what they claim to be. By that opinion, no screenshot is valid, since none of them prove they are what they are being said to be. And no photograph! Images are all useless!
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