Ghost In The Shell 2: Innocence in Theaters 298
Lord Prox writes "The long wait is over, the sequel to Ghost In The Shell is here in theaters!. Titled Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence for the US market and seems to be available in a reasonably wide distribution for anime. There is also a trailer available."
how's it ? (Score:5, Interesting)
So, is it worth it, besides the Geek Factor ?
Re:how's it ? (Score:5, Funny)
TiVo killed the sitcom star... (Score:3, Funny)
That might make one decent gross-out stunt, but a whole show?!!!
Re:how's it ? (Score:2)
Welcome to Slashdot, you might as well ask "How does it end?"
Re:how's it ? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:how's it ? (Score:4, Insightful)
At any rate, Oshii is infamous for infusing others' manga works with his own sensibilities (see Urusei Yatsura: Beautiful Dreamer for a non-GitS example). Unfortunately, Oshii's recent work-- despite the marvelous animation-- tends to be boring as all hell. This is why I couldn't make it all the way through the first GitS movie, and why I have no plans on seeing this sequel.
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Re:how's it ? (Score:5, Interesting)
Apparently there were 'massive walkouts at the Cannes' and a 30% Rotten Tomatoes [rottentomatoes.com] rating (which is very bad). I quote:
The common complaint among critics is that while the movie is beautiful, it is souless with too much technological mumbo jumbo and not enough likable characters. The story is said to be at once extremely convaluted and boring with action sequences too far between and countless uniteresting quotes form philosophers or the bible hindering the story.
So althought it saddens me to say this, it really doesn't look like it's worth checking out. That said, everyone is different, and this is just the critics' opinion.
Re:how's it ? (Score:4, Insightful)
This for is the exact reason I'm going to see it..
I don't mind action movies, but I'd really like some SF other than another Alien movie or the Star Wars prequels.
Of course, this movie might not be good, but they should at least give a good reason for it.. not just "boring" or "not enough likeable characters".
Re:how's it ? (Score:2)
Sounds exactly like I, so if you loved that, you'll love the new one.
On another note, I watched GITS (huh!) with the sound off to a dnb soundtrack (Sly & Ro
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Re:how's it ? (Score:5, Funny)
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Kidding aside, seeing as how the original 'ghost' movie was obviously a point of inspiration for the Matrix, I can hardly see that as being a negative review. Part of the point behind Ghost in the Shell is that it takes cyberpunk on a deep spiritual bent, all the while bullets and cyber-carnage fills the screen.
Everything mentioned in that negative review is essential to the franchise, so I for one am not deterred in the least.
Re:how's it ? (Score:2)
Indeed. Considering that, in my not so humble opinion, Oshii's Avalon is the best movie ever made on several levels, I have to imagine that the problem with the critics is that they're movie critics and not critics of neo-technical electronic literature. In short, they just don't get it, which is their problem, not mine. What, Batou isn't likeable? As for Major Kusanagi, who only has a short appearance in II, I think I could fall in love with her....
Steamboy (Score:2)
If you like big machines that grow ever bigger, breathtaking action, technical excellence, and lively illustration of times past: this is your movie.
If you want blood, barely-dressed women, computers and ray guns, stay away.
You'll miss crushed buildings, bullets, bombs, weird mechanical war machines, and the cool effects hi
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in theaters? (Score:2)
CVC
Re:in theaters? (Score:2)
Innocence in Theaters (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Innocence in Theaters (Score:3, Funny)
Ghost in the Shell 2: Incontinence in Theaters
I was thinking, what? Does the soundtract include infrasound?
Re:Innocence in Theaters (Score:2)
My subconscious must be focussing on digestive tracts. Stupid brain.
Showtimes near you since yahoo sux0rs (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Showtimes near you since yahoo sux0rs (Score:2)
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Re:Showtimes near you since yahoo sux0rs (Score:2)
Yeah, thanks for posting that link. I spent too much time on Yahoo and Fandango trying to find things reasonably close, and trying larger cities further and further away and still getting nothing. The IMDB map was quite helpful in that it told me I was not going to ever see this movie in a theater.
I still say the story submitter was on crack for suggesting there was "reasonably wide distribution."
Interesting title (Score:5, Funny)
With those nightvision goggles they handed out, there's going to be a lot more "Innocence in Theaters". Poor kids, now where are preteens going to get their first make out session?
Re:Interesting title (Score:2)
Re:Interesting title (Score:2, Funny)
Wait a sec...
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Well that sucks... (Score:2, Insightful)
Be Patient (Score:2)
How about quoting the title. (Score:5, Funny)
"Ghost in the shell 2: Innocence in Theaters"
Do you have to go do a confession in a theater to become innocent again?
Oh, well.
Looks good (Score:3, Interesting)
However from watching the trailer, I have a feeling that I am really going to enjoy this sequel. It looks like a great deal of time and effort has gone into the style and visuals.
Re:Looks good (Score:2)
I even put Akira as a third in place to Ghost in the Shell and Ninja Scroll.
The mix of Raw Vioence, Phenomenal artistry and deep narrative from Ghost in the Shell had my head spinning for a couple of days.
and anytime I think I'm having a tough day at work I just remember Tessai (the stone-body demon) beating the living crap out of Jubei. That makes me remember that things could be a lot worse...if I were a cartoon.
Re:Looks good (Score:2)
Great action/characters/plots.
Re:Looks good (Score:2)
I have been trying to expand my anime movies, but it still seems that those two will always be in my top ten.
Re:Looks good (Score:4, Interesting)
It never seemed to know what it wanted to be. At times it seemed to want to break out the tentacles o' doom and go full scale hentai, and then later on (with the fight in the forest) it tries the Crouching Tiger approach. If it was one or the other maybe it would have worked, but as it was it seemed terribly uneven. And that ending bit on the ship... T2, anybody?
I gather that the BBFC made some nasty cuts to it, though... perhaps that damaged it.
Ghost in the Shell, OTOH, is wonderful. When I first saw it, I was filled with wonder at the originality and creativity of the Wachowski brothers, who hadn't shamelessly ripped off the whole film at all.
Re:Looks good (Score:2)
No. You are not.
I'm an anime junkie, but Ninja Scroll has very little going for it. I guess for 12-year old kids it would make a pretty thrilling double-feature with the original "Heavy Metal."
Re:Looks good (Score:2)
seen it last nite (Score:3, Interesting)
loved it, recommend it
Hehe... (Score:2, Interesting)
Mozilla 1.7 Upgrade Required - MSIE / Netscape
What ever happened the concept of downloading a video, and watching it.
Beware the Otaku! (Score:5, Funny)
Oh and before you think I'm baiting/trolling/etc., I am an otaku too
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Soundtrack (Score:5, Interesting)
Blarg (Score:5, Funny)
Not anymore.
warning: spoilers below (Score:5, Funny)
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
root 1009 0.0 0.0 1384 448 ? S Sep14 0:10 gsview
bash$ kill -9 1009
Re:warning: spoilers below (Score:2)
GITS2:Innocence available on p2p (Score:5, Interesting)
And to all of you anal-retentive copyright-lovers who are thinking "you don't have the right to 'sample' a movie before deciding if it's worth the money! especially if its precious anime!", I have this to say: "when 90% of everything is crap, i most certainly have the right to screen it, and neither should I have to rent it or see it aired on TV before I decide the artistic value merits my dollars as a reward to make more."
Re:GITS2:Innocence available on p2p (Score:2, Insightful)
gimme gimme gimme. fucking kids today thing they're entitled to everything.
Re:GITS2:Innocence available on p2p (Score:5, Insightful)
...Especially if its not being played in any theaters near you. Looking at IMDB's show times, the nearest theater from me is 180 miles away.
I think this movie deserves better theater release. But until movie makers give proper movies better coverage, I think I will find other means of getting my entertainment.
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If 90% is crap, don't watch it all. Let others watch it and follow the reviews. I've learned this with pretty much ALL hollywood movies, and as a result I see very few.
You don't deserve anything free except that which has been deemed free, either by the will of the creator or that which has lapsed into the public domain. And if you disagree with that, then g
Re:GITS2:Innocence available on p2p (Score:2)
The problem I have of this is that there was never such a legal right, even before P2P, DRM and all that crap. You may argue that you should have that right, but right now, you really don't have a right to screen movies for free using copyright infringing methods.
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Actually, you don't. I understand your badly wanting to, but you don't have any right to.
It's a bargain between you and the producers, not optional charity from you to the producers.
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GITS2 (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't think this will be "I, Robot" animated. The fact that the robot in GITS2 is a "gynoid", seems to point to a slightly darker, and more mature plot.
Of note is the fact that GITS2 is nominated for the Palme D'Or at the Cannes film festival. It is the first animated film to achieve that.
I also think that this movie will be more in tune with westerners vision of what a sci-fi film should be. Apparently it is quite an intelligent film, but the ideas may be more palatable to mainstream America than many other popular anime films.
I probably won't be able to see it in theaters, but I will definitely pick up the DVD.
There is a very nice write up on the film on Wiredm l [wired.com]
http://wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,64966,00.ht
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Major gone?? (Score:2, Funny)
NoOOOOooOoooOoOOoo!?!
I need more coffee (Score:5, Funny)
You can be sure I didn't visit THAT trailer!
Ghost in the shell? (Score:3, Funny)
3.01-gs.0-beta
[user@localhost user]$ type ghostview
ghostview is a shell builtin
[user@localhost user]$
Hmm
Toronto Film Festival (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:OT: Making fun of Neve Campbell (Score:2)
Worth a view (Score:5, Informative)
I don't know how the storyline or certain philosophical aspects of the script will be taken by North American audiences (it's practically Confucian at times), but there were some moments of genuine humour that I think the first movie lacked. The animation style is interesting, and it looks damn good. One person who saw the movie with me said she was hooked by the animation in the trailer, which stunned her. She works at an animation company, so she has some idea of quality animation versus crap.
Yeah. Worth a view, maybe two!
useful links anybody? (Score:4, Informative)
GITS2 Home page [gofishpictures.com]
Original HQ Japanese Trailer [www.ngi.it]
Official Trailer for Gaijin [www.ngi.it], already stripped of the engrish "my very warm welcome to you for this most excellent trailer. I like to live life to the fullest!" headers.
Ghosts in shells... (Score:2, Funny)
"No, I didn't wreck your system by issuing that command, it was a ghost in the shell! I'm innocent!"
Review: Ghost in the Shell 2 (Score:5, Informative)
The movie takes place some intederminate amount of time after Ghost in the Shell, and the Major's partner, Batou, has become something of a loner within Section 9. He feels that no new partner could ever equal the Major, and you really get the sense of the deep bond that had connected the two, and that he has lost. Of course, the fact that the Major's "ghost" simply disappeared without a trace is always itching at him, as well.
The movie opens with Batou showing up at a crime scene where a "Gynoid" has slaughtered her owner and two cops. A fight ensues, and before it ends, Batou hears the "Gynoid" ask for help in the voice of a little girl.
Section 9 decides to investigate, and Batou is assigned a new partner. The movie follows their investigation in pretty standard 3-act style, but the universe that the characters are moving through makes things a little more complicated. Everyone has an "e-brain" which is constantly connected to the global information net. Our characters spout obscure biblical and literal references, and more disturbingly, can have their heads hacked into if they're not paying attention closely. This frequently spurrs "Matrix"-like discussions and situations where characters are trying to determine what is real and what isn't. Batou's investigations take him to the modern Yakuza, an old border town, and eventually to the source of the plea for help he hears at the start of the movie.
But that's the plot, which adds to the enjoyment of anime, but isn't neccessarily all that requisite, right? Let's talk about the other stuff that matters: the animation, and the imaginary future society.
It rocks. There's an effective combination of computer animation and classic anime that causes some breathtaking moments (watch the alley scene at the beginning). The fights are fantastic, although I felt a little too few and far between. The futuristic world is well thought out, with a visual design being of a modern technological world that has gone 1920s-retro when it comes to industrial design and architecture.
It's definitely worth seeing if you like anime.
Pee-Wee Herman (Score:3, Funny)
Am I the only one who read the 'Innocence in Theaters' part of the headline...and had a whole different idea about this story?
Better trailer? (Score:3, Informative)
1) I hate Yahoo for putting very low kbps WMV trailers on the net.
2) The trailer itself is very cheesy/lame-- how is this supposed to appeal to anyone but die hard Ghost in the Shell fans?
3) Did I mention Yahoo's movie trailers suck?
Re:Better trailer? (Score:2)
What is it with these Frankenstein plots? (Score:3, Insightful)
Frankenstein returns 1163 matches [imdb.com] on IMDB so I think this qualifies as a cliche. Take a look at the plot summary of the original [imdb.com] if you don't believe this is in the same tradition.
HOW DO I MAKE IT STOP? (Score:2)
This is all well and good (Score:2)
Re:This is all well and good (Score:3, Insightful)
Geneon has the license and it was supposed to be released to theaters this summer, but obviously that hasn't happened. The North American release date is still unknown. But the film is only 5 months old, so one shouldn't get too worried about it just yet.
MAPP Mouse by Masamune Shiro (Score:2)
MAPP Mouse [shinza.com]
Meh, theaters (Score:2)
I love this century.
Apparently.. (Score:2)
I came, I saw, it kicked ass! (Score:3, Informative)
If you take your action/sci-fi Hollywood-style and find dialogue/plot to be boring, then this is not the movie for you.
To me, this movie is on a level on par with Blade Runner. The world they create in this movie is extremely rich the story is engaging and thought provoking -- they took all the elements of GS:1 and raised it to a new level. I'm definitely hoping for a 3rd installment by the same producers.
Re:What was so great about Ghost in the Shell 1 ? (Score:5, Informative)
The movie's core theme was about what makes us human. Motoko and Batou were both cyborgs (meaning that the only biological part left was the brain), Togusa was fully human (may have had data jacks though, been a while), most of the rest of Section 9 were cyborgs (though not to the degree of Motoko and Batou), and the Puppetmaster was a computer program. All were fully sentient, so the question remains, what makes one human?
Togusa was the only fully alive in a biological sense... but Motoko sure looked human enough. So, if instead, human is defined as having a human form, then we have Motoko and Batou. However, this then would include androids (dolls in GitS2)... and was the Puppetmaster not sentient? If he (she, it?) was sentient... should it be counted as alive despite lacking a biological body?
Basically, where does Human end, and Human-replica begin?
I hope that didn't just end up being more confusing...
Re:What was so great about Ghost in the Shell 1 ? (Score:2)
Sounds like this would make a good double-bill with Blade Runner - the extended version, of course...
Re:What was so great about Ghost in the Shell 1 ? (Score:2)
Oh, that's easy. What makes one human is the desire to improve oneself and become more than what one is. It's all about striving to grow as an individual. Why are people still hung up on this issue, it's so easy...
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Re:What was so great about Ghost in the Shell 1 ? (Score:2)
no it means your dog likes treats!
but you have a point... the grandparent post oversimplifies the problem.
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Re:Where in Canada is it playing? (Score:2)
Not in Montreal, Ottawa or Toronto as far as I can tell. There was a (single?) showing at the Toronto Film Festival but I couldn't make it.
Can anyone who knows please reply if and where this movie is suppost to be shown in Canada? I was looking forward to seeing it in a theatre. While I am asking, does anyone the the distribution of Steam Boy? I have a fealing it will be even more of 'limited release' then GitS:I is.
Re:Subtitled? (Score:2)
Re:Subtitled? (Score:2)
I don't really mind subtitling, since I've been reading it for maybe 20 years now, it's hard to even notice. You just need to learn to read it nice and quick. Flick your eyes down to the subtitles and let the image burn into your mind, but don't try and "read" it.
Re:Subtitled? (Score:2)
Re:See original first? (Score:2)