



Unix Shell Accounts? 115
mcovey asks: "Unix shell accounts used to be easy to find, with quality applications installed and free web space. Nowadays the only free ones left are either not accepting new accounts, have limited applications or send you on a wild goose chase to register. Does anyone know any free or low-cost shell accounts that include compilers, IRC, background processes, FTP, a decent editor and an email app (preferably pine, since I have a config file already on my IMAP server)?"
There are several of them ... (Score:2, Informative)
Why do you need a hosted shell account? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Why do you need a hosted shell account? Reasons (Score:3, Insightful)
You are an out of work, homeless, software developer, and the library won't let you compile software on one of their computers.
You happen to be interested in writing new software to spam the internet, but don't want direct evidence of it being your system sending it out. (not a legitimate reason, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone wanted to do just this. It
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Re:Why do you need a hosted shell account? Reasons (Score:2)
Re:Why do you need a hosted shell account? Reasons (Score:2)
Re:Why do you need a hosted shell account? Reasons (Score:1)
Why not punch another hole in your firewall for ssh? Then, when you're in an Internet cafe, its just a matter of grabbing a copy of putty from somewhere and connecting into your own server? Then you've also got all the tools you want right at your encrypted fingertips.
Re:Why do you need a hosted shell account? Reasons (Score:1)
I thought you could.
Rather they got my imap password then my login.
Re:Why do you need a hosted shell account? Reasons (Score:2)
Re:Why do you need a hosted shell account? Reasons (Score:1)
Have one of your employed buddies plug a 386 box from the thrift store into their subnet for you to shell into. Sheesh. You can run Linux on laptops that sell under $10 at surplus auctions these days....
Re:Why do you need a hosted shell account? (Score:1)
Re:Why do you need a hosted shell account? (Score:2)
The obvious reasons why (Score:1)
It would be nice to be able to just log onto a box and have everything I ever want be setup already, and have someone else worry about security patches.
The obvious reason why the ISPs don't like to offer this anymore is because they don't want to deal with everybody trying to hack the machine, and hack each other, and spawn infinite r
Get a whole (virtual) server (Score:5, Informative)
I use Tektonic [tektonic.net]. Their cheapest plan is only $15/month. For more money you get larger slices of the CPU and RAM. There are several other good ones as well.
(oh, and FP).
Check out their network stats page (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Check out their network stats page (Score:3, Informative)
In case anyone is too lazy, here is a direct link to Tektonic's network stats page: http://www.tektonic.net/network.htm [tektonic.net]
Re:Get a whole (virtual) server (Score:2)
Re:Get a whole (virtual) server (Score:2)
Re:Get a whole (virtual) server (Score:2)
Sendmail, Apache, etc...
I set it up to handle my email and some test sites running PHP in a few minutes. I also installed my own ColdFusion server and am using that as well.
I've had the server for several months with no complaints.
Re:Get a whole (virtual) server (Score:1)
Re:Get a whole (virtual) server (Score:1)
They have dedicated servers (all yours, not shared, full root) starting at $79/month ($49/month with a set up fee).
Then you can give other people free shells and help solve the problem instead of just bitching about it.
Re:public access on my virtual server (Score:2)
Give me a login and I'll demonstrate how to do harm (maybe not to YOUR box).
Buy a cheap shell (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Buy a cheap shell (Score:1)
Re:Buy a cheap shell (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Buy a cheap shell (Score:2, Informative)
You really want to use is "scp". Secure CoPy.
From "man scp"
scp copies files between hosts on a network. It uses ssh(1) for data transfer, and uses the same authentication and provides the same security as ssh(1).
They wish they could (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm sure it wasn't done on a whim. Giving out shell accounts allows the potential for serious abuse, and when you start granting strangers permission to do so many random things from the shell, abuse is destined to occur.
Block Outgoing Connections! (Score:2)
panix.com (Score:5, Informative)
panix.com is da bomb. (Score:4, Insightful)
Why free? (Score:5, Interesting)
All the shell accounts I've had in the past (I'm in the camp that just runs their own server over broadband now) were in some way attached to a paying account and/or were provided by a school or employer.
I can see a low-cost account, say $5/month for no compiler and $10/month for compiler (or just limit the account to x% CPU), but free doesn't make sense to me.
Not saying I think they should go away if they exist, just wondering what the incentive to give someone command-line access to your box would be?
Re:Why free? (Score:4, Funny)
So they can deal with a lot more bullshit in their lives!
By offering free shell accounts, they give spammers a base to work from.
By offering free shell accounts, people can coordinate their DDOS attacks from their box.
By offereing free shell accounts, they can deal with people running high bandwith gaming servers that choke off their networks.
Now, I wonder why it's hard to find people giving out free shell accounts with compilers?
Check out hub.org (Score:5, Informative)
They have web accounts with SSH login as a standard feature, and you can even get root access to your own personal VM and install whatever software you want.
Oh, and they run FreeBSD, which happens to be my favorite unix.
And on a related note (Score:5, Funny)
special request (Score:1)
Virtual Servers (Score:5, Informative)
UML virtuals behave like complete Linux servers with smaller RAM and disk sizes. You can load full distros and get a direct, public, IP address. Some hosters let you run IRC servers and some don't (many upstream providers hard-filter IRCD). In terms of software and services, you can run just about anything you want. Mail, FTP, ssh, IRC, Apache, Perl, PHP, MySql, etc. Plus you have full editors (vi, emacs) and compilers (gcc, java, etc.).
You can typically get these starting at about $12/mo. We sell them starting at $15/mo. They are more than shell accounts because the load you can place on a physical server is much smaller. In general, we only put 15-20 on a box to keep the underlying LoadAvg < 1.
Info on UML is available at:
http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]
Have fun.
Cybercomm (Score:3, Informative)
On their website, they still appear to be offering their old services which include
30 days unlimited/interactive usage
10 MB Web Space for your personal webpage(s).
1 Internet Email Address
Full UNIX Shell Included
Listing in our Users directory
The Best Technical Support in The Business
Well that last line about their tech department is of a bit of sales hyperboly. But I do remember their being fairly good.
Of course you wont want to dial up to their network, but I've never had any trouble at all accessing the Unix Shell account they give you.
You get all that for a low low low $20 'merican dollars per month or for $200 a year in one lumpy sum.
Also interesting is that they appear to still have their Muds section open (as of a couple of months ago)and are STILL operating a BBS that you can chat with local yokal Jerseyans. Not that you'd want to do either of the latter, but it is still interesting to find that stuff still around!
Re:Cybercomm (Score:2)
I hate marketing drivel like this. Either offer unlimited downloads, or give it a hard cap that everyone can see. I'm tired of these stupid ambiguities that make it sound as though you can use as much as their service as you want. I wonder what their marketing department says when you download a half-dozen cd images in a weekend? These fuckwits don't deserve anyone's business.
Re:Cybercomm (Score:2)
I hate marketing drivel like this. Either offer unlimited downloads, or give it a hard cap that everyone can see. I'm tired of these stupid ambiguities that make it sound as though you can use as much as their service as you want. I wonder what their marketing department says when you download a half-dozen cd images in a weekend? These fuckwits don't deserve anyone's business.
Do me, do yourself and everyone here a favor. Read the paragraph you just wrote. Has it ever
Eskimo.com (Score:3, Informative)
Check out their home page, but I do believe you get full IMAP access as well as compiler access. I remember compiling my own version of Pine as they were a version behind, and all worked just fine.
They're not free, but I think you'll find their rates ok.
get your own server (Score:1, Redundant)
HP Test Drive (Score:5, Informative)
HP Test Drive [hp.com]
You sign up for a free account and get NetBSD, Linux, Tru64 and HP-UX accounts on a variety of hardware.
The account itself is not mail enabled, but compilers, ftp, editors - it's all there and anything else you need you could compile and run yourself...
HP-UX software ports and archives here [connect.org.uk].
Enjoy!
RJ
SDF (Score:5, Informative)
As a serious user, you appreciate some degree of user validation - it means the server won't be full of spammers and script kiddies.
Re:SDF (Score:2, Informative)
Re:SDF (Score:1, Informative)
Re:SDF (Score:1, Informative)
Re:SDF (Score:1)
Re:SDF (Score:2)
20mb home, 20mb web, 20mb mail
mutt, pop3, imaps, webmail, icq, bboard
games, TOPS-20, mud, gopher & more
user (the $1 account):
Everything pre-validated has, plus:
elm, pine, mailx, rmail, lynx, cgi (limited)
bash, ksh, tcsh, rc, zsh, tclsh
http://yourlogin.freeshell.org
hundreds of shell & network utilities
arpa (the $36 account):
100mb home
Re:SDF (Score:1)
I'm going to plug the shirts again because they're pretty cool, and a good way to help out SDF. Buying one might even be tax deductable, but I'm not sure.
Re:SDF (Score:1)
The only problem I'v hade with it was when NWLink dropped SDF
Re:SDF (Score:2)
Re:SDF (Score:1)
~Ben
Re:SDF (Score:1)
IRC is taboo (Score:1)
CSoft! (Score:3, Informative)
I use CSoft for just this. From their website:
They're not free, but their cheapest setup is $5/month for a real shell login, web server access (including tons of interpreters, databases access, etc.), compiler access (they ask you to be reasonable), and just about full reign as a user on a shared UNIX system. They're also quick on service requests and have a great administration tool. From their website:
Look them up at csoft.net [csoft.net].
Re:CSoft! (Score:1)
Knoppix (Seriously) (Score:1)
So why not just have your unix shell account on your desktop machine? If you are not already using Mac or Linux, it's easy to create a dual-boot with the Mandrake install CDs, or have a portable solution with a Knoppix CD [knoppix.net] and a USB stick.
Re:Knoppix (Seriously) (Score:2)
Re:Knoppix (Seriously) (Score:2)
Sure, I'll give ya one! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Sure, I'll give ya one! (Score:2)
I had the same problem (Score:1)
Shell acounts: memories (Score:2)
Used pine, lynx, gopher, etc. all the time. Actually myself and two of my friends 'shared' the account in order to keep the costs down.
M-Net and Grex (Score:2)
Re:M-Net and Grex (Score:2)
I once co-admin'd a semi large free shell system (zimcity.net), but it losts its usefullness when the script kiddies and h4x0rs came in.
We eventually firewalled out all outgoing connections not originating from port 22/25/80/110 and blocked all incoming packets not destined for 22/25/80/110 after getting calls from some government sites about unauthorized scans.
After a while, we decided to kill it. It was way more trouble than it was worth.
Re:M-Net and Grex (Score:2)
I do remember phish.nether.net, and remember it going away rather abruptly. I imagine it probably had to do with a lot of people abusing the system.
Re:Shell acounts: memories (Score:1)
I used to have an account with them, but haven't check in a while to see if it's still active... It was free and ran BSD.
From their site:
Re:Shell acounts: memories (Score:2)
A different question, Dialup Shell Accounts? (Score:2)
Re:A different question, Dialup Shell Accounts? (Score:2)
Both questions, with one answer -- Speakeasy (Score:2)
I have their Sysadmin DSL package [speakeasy.net], which includes a shell account, dialup and static IPs.
(I've never had reason to use the shell account, as I have plenty of others that I've collected through the years, so I have no idea if they have compilers available, so this may not answer the original question)
Ah, back in the day (Score:2)
My guess as to why they're harder to find now- Lack of demand. Broadband is far more available (or available period) compared to 5 years ago.
As of May of this year 48.61% [websiteoptimization.com] of U.S. homes who regularly use the Internet have broadband.
Why pay another monthly fee when you can just throw up some hardware of your own on your home network that you can use without restriction. (Other than running say a web server on your cable modem, but if you want to SSH home and
Cheap VPS accounts.. (Score:2)
Speakeasy! (Score:2)
Though as another poster mentioned, why not just set up a Linux box and get a shell account on your own workstation?
Re:Speakeasy! (Score:1)
Aside from that, I honestly don't see a use for it -- maybe checking your mail from a public terminal? Then again, who doesn't have a Gmail account these days?
I have to agree, though. Adding a (dedicated) SSH box onto your network is the way to go.
Re:Speakeasy! (Score:1)
Had a lot of experience with the shell account on CTSnet (now parting of Hosting.com - sigh) - allowed for very fast access to their newsserver, mail (my mail account was one the same host as the shell acc
Spammers and phishers (Score:5, Informative)
This is only because of spammers and phishers. They have absolutely no shame and will immediately abuse any open access shell acount, and even those that are not free are still not immune.
We have had a hell of a time with people signing up for our service with stolen credit cards, and we ended up just blacklisting big parts of the world and subjecting every new order to a pretty meticulous investigative process prior to turn up.
Free shell with IRC, web hosting, etc. (Score:3, Informative)
Just saw them the other day, run on OpenBSD boxes.
Re:Free shell with IRC, web hosting, etc. (Score:1)
Re:Free shell with IRC, web hosting, etc. (Score:1)
I use metawire to host a small website, 'til I can get DSL and run from home.
So far it's been pretty good, except for the huge hardware crash which kept them offline for quite a while. I couldn't really complain, though, seeing how it's free :)
It used to be kinda slow, but the speed from the new hardware and connection they have will burn your fingertips off!
Re:Free shell with IRC, web hosting, etc. (Score:2, Informative)
I signed up for a metawire account myself - so far, all I've used it for is scanning my home connection from a remote site. From home, I can SSH to metawire, check my firewall config by nmap-ing back to my site, etc.
Linode (Score:4, Insightful)
They're around (Score:1)
I've been thinking about opening up access beyond Case, but not too hard.
Free Unix Shells (Score:1)
No (Score:3, Funny)
*Cost does not include any lawyer fees or jail time associated with the use of said Windows accounts.
Cheap Shells (Score:1)
A good place to start searching is ShellSearch.com [shellsearch.com]. IIRC, they also have ratings for each shell provider.
Sourceforge? (Score:2)
Dedicated servers taking over. (Score:2)
Most dedicated servers these days have over 1TB of bandwidth to boot, even at the 49$ level.
Dedicated servers? (Score:2, Informative)
One terabyte of "bandw
Re:Dedicated servers? (Score:2)
The provider I'm with, ServerMatrix, has Celeron 1.7s available for 49$/mth, with 1200GB/mth of transfer.
They have, last I checked, 12 GigE connections, more than just a few DS3s. Those 12 GigE connections are only partially utilized to boot. And none of them are Cogent.
Servers come with 10mbit connections (And there is no problem maxing out that 10mbit, trust me), but if you desperately need it you can get upgraded to a 100mbit card for 10$/mth.
Several other providers also have sim
Get out more (Score:2)
A AC posted more or less this, but my +2 bonus make this easier to find...
Do you have any friends? A local linux (or BSD) computer club? Start asking the geeks you know. I personally would be happy to give friends a shell account on my personal machine. I don't have much disk space or CPU power, but it is always on, and I have a static IP.
I'm not going to do this for someone who doesn't talk to me in person though. I want a personal promise that you won't abuse the account. That is you will keep
I Love Google (Score:1, Interesting)
Metawire (Score:2)
I found out about them from an older post on
Not free, but better than just a shell (Score:2)
cheers,
Shell accounts (Score:1)