Forward This Article And Get Paid $203.15 531
Iphtashu Fitz writes "We've all seen it. The e-mail forwarded to us from a friend who got it from a coworker whose sister's cousin's roommate's great aunt knows somebody at Microsoft. The one from Bill Gates himself offering you cash to forward the e-mail to others in order to test out their new e-mail tracking system. If you haven't received that one you've undoubtedly gotten other e-mail hoaxes offering anything from gift certificates to free computers to free airline tickets. How do these sorts of hoaxes start and who starts them? Well Jonathon Keats at Wired Magazine decided to track down the origin of the Bill Gates e-mail tracking hoax. After a few dead ends he finally located then-student Bryan Mack, who created the hoax on November 18, 1997 while at the University of Houston. In Mack's own words: 'It was just a joke between a couple friends' that eventually got out of hand. One of his buddies had gotten a make-money-fast spam and Mack said 'I can come up with something better than that.' Three minutes later, Bill Gates' email-tracing program was born. At first he just sent it to a few friends, but those friends sent it to other friends (and so on), and it didn't take long for the e-mail to transform from a joke to a full-fledged hoax."
*sigh* (Score:4, Funny)
Oh wait I know why, the pretty colors of the magazine!!!
Re:*sigh* (Score:3, Interesting)
Bathroom reading, man.
Re:*sigh* (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:*sigh* (Score:5, Funny)
When did Wired get a swimsuit issue?
Re:*sigh* (Score:5, Funny)
Heh my girlfriend gave me a strange look when I logged on to IRC from the bathroom. For some reason, reading in the bathroom is okay, but chatting on-line is the equivalent of announcing the desire for somebody to invent 7-day underwear.
Re:*sigh* (Score:4, Interesting)
What does work wonderfully is a PDA. I just have books/articles pre-downloaded to the PDA, often before I leave the house in the morning, but you can just as easily get a wireless card for most PDAs sold today if you'd prefer.
Having a PDA with reading material is nice in a lot of ways, actually. Since I first got a PDA, a bunch of years ago, I've started reading a lot. That is, when my reading material is always waiting in my pocket and conveniently brought out and quickly put away, I will read for a single page in times that otherwise I'd just have to stand there trying to achieve zen blankness of mind. Hell, I even read when I'm taking a piss- a page here, a page there. It's a great way to get leisure reading done when you're so busy between working full-time and taking a full-time load of college credits that you can't afford to actually sit down for an hour and read a novel.
Also, there's more you can do on your PDA than just read on the toilet. I've written at least a few hundred lines of code as well, mostly in Squeak Smalltalk, but also in Lisp and NewtonScript.
Ah... good old hoaxes... (Score:5, Insightful)
On the other hand: back in the day we got email hoaxes stating there was a new virus that could be triggered by just opening the email. Back then we laughed with those pranks because we knew it was impossible. I kept laughing, until the day it really happened. Of course it didn't concern me because I read my email with pine, but I wasn't all too happy of that evolution... What I thought to be impossible had suddenly become a reality.
Re:Ah... good old hoaxes... (Score:5, Informative)
Pine Message/External-Body Type Attribute Buffer Overflow Vulnerability [securityfocus.com] [Sep 10, 2003]
Pine From: Field Buffer Overflow Vulnerability [securityfocus.com] [Sep 23, 2000]
Pine 4.x Remote Command Execution Vulnerability [securityfocus.com] [Jun 28, 1999]
Re:Ah... good old hoaxes... (Score:2, Interesting)
Has anyone ever used these exploits to write a (Unix) virus?
Mail exploits led to the Morris worm (Score:3, Interesting)
Has anyone ever used these exploits to write a (Unix) virus?
I'm not sure about Pine, but Yes, mailer exploits did lead to a UNIX worm [google.com].
Re:Ah... good old hoaxes... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Ah... good old hoaxes... (Score:4, Funny)
What's your number again?
Re:Ah... good old hoaxes... (Score:3, Funny)
Come on. We all know "security through obscurity" doesn't work.
Re:Ah... good old hoaxes... (Score:5, Funny)
And who would be stupid enough to believe a software company would make executables launch from within the email, or for that matter the header? What kind of buffoon software would ever do that...???
Re:Ah... good old hoaxes... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Ah... good old hoaxes... (Score:5, Funny)
Where do I get one of these modems that writes [carrier lost] into web forum posts before it disconnects? It seems like everyone has one but me... or maybe it's done at the ISP level!?.
Re:Ah... good old hoaxes... (Score:5, Informative)
Many people didn't set their modems with appropriate timeout space before and after +++, so you could do goofy things like drop the server's modem into command mode (because it faithfully echoed your keystrokes) by doing that. As I recall, some modems even acknowledged the +++ when it was received from remote, so you could have even more fun by embedding +++ATH0 or worse commands into your messages.
There were all sorts of fun things to do with Hayes-compat modems, Back In The Day.
Re:Ah... good old hoaxes... (Score:3, Interesting)
As for embedding problematic code in messages, that's either a software problem or a brain-dead operator problem. Hayes SmartModems (and every other modem since, AFAIK) by default require 1 second of silence before the escape sequence (+++). And once the remote modem has dropped back to command mode, it takes a *local* (
Re:Ah... good old hoaxes... (Score:3, Informative)
Um... no. Some modems recognized the characters from remote *with no echo*. Most sysops fixed it on the BBS computer in a hurry, but in a few cases you could hang up on a *user's* computer because their modem defaulted to accepting commands from remote. I wrote code into the Phoenyx to escape the +++ sequence, so as
Re:Ah... good old hoaxes... (Score:2)
Now my mom checks snopes.com for everything.
Re:Ah... good old hoaxes... (Score:5, Interesting)
As soon as I heard about it I sent an email to a girl I know who has a horrible tendancy to believe these things explaining that it was a hoax. The following conversation ensued.
First, the important back end to the punchline: Her comptuer at the time was an old Compaq Presario, 200mhz, 32 megs of RAM, and Windows95
Her: I deleted that file
Me: I told you it was a hoax
Her: Yeah but I had the file on my computer!
(I decide to take this and run with it)
Me: I told you it was a hoax for a reason, now if you shut your computer down you aren't going to be able to start it back up again.
(she signs off and isn't seen online again for about a week)
Her: Colin am I ever going to be able to turn off my computer?
She BELIEVED me and actually left her dinosaur Win95 box running for a week straight. I was surprised after running that long she was able to get on to AOL 6.0 and IM me without the system falling to its knees in a spectacular stream of 30 BSODs.
Stupid is as stupid does I guess
Re:Ah... good old hoaxes... (Score:2)
Welcome to the future. Back in the '40s, Heinlein wrote Space Cadet. On the first page, a phone rings while hanging from the hero's belt. As he answers the call, he's watching a monorail arrive. Futuristic then, commonplace today. We have seen the future, and it is now!
Re:Ah... good old hoaxes... (Score:5, Funny)
What is Bryan's email address?
Awesome... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Awesome... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Awesome... (Score:5, Funny)
Your name isn't... Inigo Montoya... is it..??
Re:Awesome... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Awesome... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Awesome... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Awesome... (Score:3, Funny)
Hoax?!? (Score:5, Insightful)
Seriously, do the people who fall for this even think to consider the ramifications of their e-mail being tracked by Microsoft in the first place? That was a rhetorical question, of course - anyone stupid enough to go for this crap isn't smart enough to know he has civil rights, much less care about whether it's the government or a big corporation taking them away.
Re:Hoax?!? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Hoax?!? (Score:4, Funny)
Now I'm sitting in the Nigera with my friends from several banking institutions wondering how we can get the money out of the country. Perhaps we could have your help?
--pete
Re:Hoax?!? (Score:5, Insightful)
No. What they do consider is that with minimal effort, there's a small chance they'll make $50. If it never arrives, they have little to lose. This is hardly a useful IQ test.
Nice (Score:5, Interesting)
This is actually a very well written Wired article. It's interesting to note that it only took him a little bit of research (or so it seems by the article) to find this guy. All he had to do was find the original hoax email, and the guys name was the first on the list! This is what started it all, and every single revision one could think of. It went from Email, to Instant Messaging, people have even started recieving them on their SMS-enabled phones as well. It's amazing to think that there are actually people who still believe this stuff... and it still continues on...amazing.. well atleast amusing to say the least.
Re:Nice (Score:2)
Re:Nice (Score:3, Informative)
That combined with penis enlargement ... (Score:3, Funny)
I forgot where I read that (maybe even here), but here goes anyway:
Imagine that combined with penis enlargment spam. Cut your penis into 5 parts, send each part to top 5 names on the list.. receive more penis in the mail! Guaranteed to add inches and inches to your penis!
Re:Nice (Score:3, Insightful)
A lot of people were skeptical. However since it cost nothing to try it.... Better to have tried it becasue if in the remote chance it was true, you wouldn't want to be the one who missed the easy money. That's why it was forwarded so much. If they truly believed it, there would have been many more people lined up in Redmond to collect.
I hate when people forward me this stuff. (Score:2)
Re:I hate when people forward me this stuff. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:I hate when people forward me this stuff. (Score:3, Interesting)
I usually tell whoever forwarded this to me (as it's usually someone who knows me) that if they keep doing it I'll be forced to block all mail from them.
I do the same. One thing I've found that helps before you block _all_ mail from them is block any thing that comes from their email address where the subject starts with "fw". This will catch "Fwd: make money fast!", "Fw: some joke", "Fw: Re: Fwd: Re: Fw: funny!". Most microsoft MUAs and common webmail systems I've seen handle forwards this way (prepe
Sure it starts out as a joke (Score:5, Insightful)
Comment removed (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Sure it starts out as a joke (Score:3, Funny)
In other breaking news... (Score:4, Funny)
CmdrTaco and Hemos want to test out the latest revision of Slashcode and they need your help. For a limited time only (today) and on a limited number of threads (this post) Slashdot is implementing a post tracking system whereby each person who replies will receive a cash payment (converted into a Slashdot subscription! Hurray!) based on the number of replies posted to your comment. The goal is to stress test how deeply nested responses can be made.
What are you waiting for? Reply now.
This post is not associated in anyway with Slashdot. It is merely a poor representation of sarcasm, or irony, or a metaphor about how a beatiful woman is like a fine piece of jade... or something... You won't actually get a subscription to Slashdot and I might lose mine.
--
Was it the sheep climbing onto the altar, or the cattle lowing to be slain,
or the Son of God hanging dead and bloodied on a cross that told me this was a world condemned, but loved and bought with blood.
Re:In other breaking news... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:In other breaking news... (Score:3, Funny)
Hmm.. this sounds an awful like a hoax I read about on Wired today, it was linked from slashdot.
Well, okay, I didn't actually read the article, but I did read the news post about the article.
Well, okay, I never read all of that either, but I did read enough to to feel I am fully capable of making a decent reply. Anyway, here's the link to the article: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.07/hoax.html [wired.com]
Re:In other breaking news... (Score:2)
Re:In other breaking news... (Score:2)
hmm, it went away ;)
Anyway, it's been done, and yes it broke the site.
Nigeria? (Score:5, Funny)
some hoaxes are nefarious (Score:5, Interesting)
I still rue the day I emailed her.
Possibility of Spam (Score:5, Interesting)
Are any companies currently doing this?
GroupShares Inc. [groupshares.com] - A Free and Interactive Stock Market Community
Re:Possibility of Spam (Score:2)
Slashdotted and Farked (Score:5, Funny)
Maybe they could sell the blackened chunks of silicon that used to be their servers on eBay, make back some of the loss.
Re:Slashdotted and Farked (Score:3, Funny)
Yeah you're right... do you have a link for it?
My CEO fell for this... (Score:5, Interesting)
As you can imagine it did our credibility no good whatsoever.
It is not just ignorant housewives and naive schoolkids who fall for these hoaxes...
Re:My CEO fell for this... (Score:2)
Did the company go down in flames?
hmmm. I know that company. (Score:3, Funny)
Re:My CEO fell for this... (Score:3, Funny)
rule of thumb (Score:5, Informative)
I got one (Score:5, Funny)
> > warning to everyone on your e-mail list!
> >
> > If someone comes to your front door saying they are conducting a survey
> > and asks you to take your clothes off, do not do it! This is a scam;
> > they only want to see you naked.
> >
> > I wish I'd gotten this yesterday. I feel so stupid and cheap now....
Now we know who is responsible (Score:2)
I think they got the wrong guy (Score:4, Interesting)
seems to be right (Score:4, Informative)
Not proof, but likeliness of the story's truth.
Re:I think they got the wrong guy (Score:3, Informative)
There was also a Disney version, and Nordstroms or someone. Even if the guy did write the email, it wasn't a very new idea by 1997.
Yep, here's one from 1994 (Score:3, Informative)
Google archived example from 1994 [google.com]
cLive ;-)
Re:Yep, here's one from 1994 (Score:3, Informative)
Legal danger? (Score:2)
If I really had a system to track e-mails (Score:2)
A simple rule (Score:2)
If an e-mail asks you to forward it to anyone: Don't.
They're like human-propigated computer virii, written by social engineers who don't know how to program.
Excuse Me (Score:2)
It was just a joke between a couple friends' that eventually got out of hand.
That's what you think.
All of your supposedly rational analysis cannot sway my faith in the sacred writ. "And it will come to pass that Gates shall recognize his pre-ordained duty to greatness and cut checks to the faithful forwarders."
There's even a prophetic passage in the original email alluding to a naysayer arising and ultimately meeting an untimely demise on a skateboard passing through a flock of pigeons.
When I get this email... (Score:5, Insightful)
When I used to get this email, I'd send an email to everyone previous asking them to not send stupid emails to every person in their address book. Usually I accompany it with:
- a brief explanation as to why it's stupid (the AOL/Intel/MS merger being unlikely)
- why there's no way they will get any money (MS is a business, not a charity)
- some basic math (do the financial return through three iterations - you, the guy who sent it to you, and the guy who sent it to him - assuming that you each sent it to precisely 20 people, then the guy who sent it to the guy who sent it to you will gain over $2-million)
- a request that they don't jam up the internet with more spam. The more people who send stupid emails, the more stupid emails in people's inbox, and the more traffic travelling through the mailservers.
- a caution about mass forwarding other people's email addresses ( if you hit forward, then everyone you forward it to gets my email address, unless you were smart enough to BCC it - that's likely hundreds or thousands of people that now have my email address... where before the number was less than a hundred)
Usually, I am able to send this 'educational' email to more than a hundred people at a time (due to everyone forwarding without using bcc).
I try to keep the tone stern, but not insulting. The idea is to make people feel stupid for being a part of the chain letter, not to insult them.
The end result: I don't get this email anymore.
In fact, I get less junk mail in general, and so do the people one iteration before me. By making the people who send me junk mail feel stupid for sending it, I've made them stop sending it.
Snopes (Score:3, Informative)
This works for me as well. I usually refer them to the following hoax busting sites:
Snopes [snopes.com]
Urban Legends [urbanlegends.com]
Symantec Hoax Warnings [symantec.com] ("$800 from Microsoft" is listed first on this page!
Hoaxbusters [ciac.org]
VMyths [vmyths.com]
If more gullible journalists and people would think a little and do some simple, quick research before hitting the SEND button then we'd all be a lot better off.
What about Jessica? (Score:2, Interesting)
I even remember (Score:2)
I rememeber putting together the most absurd hoax I could, translate it back and forth from English to other languages in babelfish, prefixing each line with a random number of "> > >" pasting it on my e-mail program, and sending it to a jokes list.
It got the "joke of the week" mention on the list quite easily.
Star War Episode VI - Return of the Hoaxer (Score:2, Funny)
I fell for it too.... (Score:5, Funny)
His own words? (Score:2)
Magarity doesn't like it when people talk about themselfs in the third person. It really annoys magarity.
Comment removed (Score:3, Funny)
Revenge anyone? (Score:2)
No doubt his email addresses no longer work, but there they are.
Use this for good, not evil. (Score:2)
fascinating (Score:2)
It's pretty neat they were able to back track it after all this time.
Re:fascinating (Score:3, Informative)
Meanwhile, down the hall... (Score:5, Funny)
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >surf's up!
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
I got my friend back (Score:4, Funny)
So when I got back to school after Thanksgiving break I forged the headers in my email to write a message "from" Bill Gates to my friend. The message thanked him for participating in the study and gave him instructions for collecting his $1000. All he had to do was send a self addressed stamped envelope to Microsoft with a letter containing his name and a confirmation number.
Over a year passed by and I never brought it up to my friend. I think it was around Christmas of '98 when we were all home again from college and hanging out when someone brought up the Bill Gates email hoax.
My friend said, "Did I ever tell you guys what happened with that? I got an email saying I won the money, so I followed the instructions and sent back a self addressed stamped envelope, but Microsoft just sent the envelope back to me. I guess it wasn't real, but it was worth the 37 cents just in case it was real."
I finally told him what happened after I laughed for about ten minutes.
IRISH VIRUS!!! (Score:3, Funny)
It's too bad that more hoax "victims" don't get this one...
> Greetings, You have just received the "IRISH VIRUS".
> As we don't have any programming experience, this Virus
> works on the honour system. Please delete all the files
> on your hard drive manually and forward this Virus to
> everyone on your mailing list. Thank you for your cooperation.
I will offer $203.16... (Score:5, Funny)
Reading Comprehension (Score:3, Informative)
*BZZZZZZT* wrong.
Article says
It's not a big deal, but if you're going to go to the trouble of pumping up your submission with a lovely URL to a school, get the right one.
"Real" McDonalds Job App & Shit Nickels Fast (Score:5, Interesting)
I wrote it over 7 years ago for my web site [bulmash.com], posted it to a couple of humor newsgroups to get some promo. Someone stripped my intro, sent it to a couple of humor lists with the claim it was real, and it exploded.
Sadly, my Shit Nickels Fast [theloonies.co.uk] chain letter parody did not do as well.
- Greg
Aren't things ripe to repeat this same message... (Score:3, Funny)
Google's new email offering, gmail [gmail.com], is what everyone's talking about! And people are confused about Google's "tracking" of the messages you send and putting ads on it.
So a letter that explains that Google's testing a new email system (true!) and that they're using their search technology to track emails would be beleived by enough people to make a new round of this chain letter spread even faster than it ever had!
C'mon /. folks! Here's a challenge! Write a letter and sent it to a dozen of your most gullible friends!
Re:Stupid article. (Score:5, Funny)
"Also, the author of that Wired article is an idiot."
(-1, Redundant)
Mac.. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Stupid article. (Score:5, Insightful)
You're the idiot, Annonymous Coward.
Re:Stupid article. (Score:3, Funny)
I've seen worse. I met a guy that was head of some kind of security division at Symantec. It was previously a standalone company that was acquired by Symantec.
Anyway, he told me that he had to get someone in his office from his staff to verify an email that came from "Admin" telling him to open some kind of spam malware.
But hey, he drives a Porsche...
Re:Stupid article. (Score:5, Insightful)
He's being facetious - it's mock-seriousness in the bulk of the article.
The article wasn't simply pointing out that this letter was a hoax, but got to the bottom of it and found the origin of something the rest of us were sure was lost in the mists of email forwarding.
Re:Stupid article. (Score:3, Interesting)
From the dept. of or not... (Score:2)
Or not..
Re:textfile.vbs (Score:2)
Sure, but I'll need your email address first :)
Re:Bryan's e-mail address (Score:3, Interesting)
And he didn't mean anything malicious by it.
He isn't anymore guilty than millions of other people who passed it on.
If he didn't do it, someone else would have.