
Intel Shipped 1 Billionth Computer Chip 350
murat submitted linkage to a simple little story that proclaims that Intel has recently shipped
it's One Billionth Chip. Quite an impressive accomplishment... it took them 25 years to reach the billions, but they estimate that they will hit 2 billion by only 2007.
1 billion chips (Score:5, Funny)
Billions and Billions served... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:1 billion chips (Score:3, Interesting)
The internet these days... (Score:4, Funny)
obligatory jokes about intel (Score:4, Funny)
all futher jokes are now redundant
Re:obligatory jokes about intel (Score:2)
I'd like to congratulate them but... (Score:5, Funny)
Comment removed (Score:3, Funny)
Yeah but... (Score:2, Interesting)
Soon, their slogan will be "Billions and Billions of chips shipped" (then maybe McDonalds could sue Intel for trademark infringment! woo!)
My question is how many of those chips are stil actually being used today? huh? How many of those 8086 chips are in use today? (maybe NASA still uses a few, eh?)
And of course, my final question: Sure, 1 billion chips.. but how many transistors have you shipped on those 1 billion chips?
Re:Yeah but... (Score:5, Funny)
A techincal Defintion (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Yeah but... (Score:5, Funny)
I have ancient/old PCs currently serving in a security mode...
i.e. piled from floor to ceiling infront of the only window with ground access
Re:Yeah but... (Score:2)
No, he just hasn't gotten around to assembling his Beowulf cluster yet...
Re:Yeah but... (Score:2)
...or the estate of Carl Sagan.
fun facts (Score:5, Interesting)
Their 50 billionth hamburger was served in New York city in or around 1984.
That's ~30 years, or an average of 1 2/3 billion per year.
Re:fun facts (Score:2)
Re:Yeah but... (Score:2)
I would say hundreds of thousands and increasing daily.
what do you think is the processor in the SMC barricade router/firewall... and 8086/8088 hybrd that intel still manufacturers to this day.
Puts pinky finger to lips (Score:5, Funny)
In other news... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:In other news... (Score:3, Funny)
However, the RIAA announced that actually AMD shipped the equivalent of 3 billion MP3 encoders, mostly straight to music pirates.
China Syndrome (Score:2)
Grats to them (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Grats to them (Score:2)
The real question is when will the Athlon64 (aka Clawhammer) CPUs be in full production? The survival of AMD is not riding on the AthlonXP 3200+; it's riding on the success of the Athlon64. The K7 has just about reached its architectual limits, and is fast becoming a legacy product that's more trouble than it's worth to AMD. The K8 is where AMD has poured much of its R&D into over recent years, and it's probably the biggest gamble they've ever taken. K7 was designed extraordi
Chips with everything (Score:2)
Conversly, I wonder how many of the early ones (8088, et al) are still being used?
Re:Chips with everything (Score:2)
Look to NASA for your answers to questions such as this. They're still using a lot of the old, old parts because that's what the equipment and the software were designed to work with. Aside from that, they've had ample time to fully test the old stuff, making sure that their CPU isn't going to fail or perform unexpectedly when human life and multi-billion dollar projects are on the line. I seem to recall reading about NASA
Re:Chips with everything (Score:2)
Now ask yourself: are the running a museum or a space program? I realize a board requires thousands of dollars worth of labor to re-design and certify. But we are spending BILLIONS on the project every year. If that money is not going into R&D, where is it going?
Moore's Law (Score:2)
In other news... (Score:5, Funny)
By 2007 it should reach the 200 milestone.
Billionth x86 chip, not chips in general (Score:2, Interesting)
Microsoft launching an investigation (Score:5, Funny)
Craig Barrett (CEO) (Score:2)
"One billyun chips..."
yeah, but how many transistors is that? (Score:2)
Re:yeah, but how many transistors is that? (Score:2)
8086 not the first processor... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:8086 not the first processor... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:8086 not the first processor... (Score:2)
Re:8086 not the first processor... (Score:2)
Granted, it was used mostly in calculators and device control, but they did built a microcomputer board around it as well.
Re:8086 not the first processor... (Score:2)
the 4004 processor is the first one, Intel was contracted by a japanese calculator manufacturer.
Re:8086 not the first processor... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:8086 not the first processor... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:8086 not the first processor... (Score:4, Interesting)
No, the 8086 did come out first. It had a full 16 bit bus. The 8088 came out later with an 8 bit bus (I think the memory bus, but I am not sure about that) because manufactures were finding it was to expensive to make motherboards based on the 16 bit bus.
Re:8086 not the first processor... (Score:2)
History of the 8086 processor family (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.intel.com/technology/itj/q12001/arti
Re:8086 not the first processor... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:8086 not the first processor... (Score:2)
The developments leading to the Intel Architecture can be traced back through the 8085 and 8080 microprocessors to the 4004 microprocessor (the first microprocessor, designed by Intel in 1969). However, the first actual processor in the Intel Architecture family is the 8086, quickly followed by a more cost effective version for smaller systems, the 8088.
I do believe they are counting from the first 8086, rather than from the 4004. And if you read the article is does mention X86 specifi
How can this be? (Score:2)
According to Moores law every quantity in the semiconductor industry doubles every 18 months, so they should reach 2 billion by the end of 2004. Are the laws of nature themselves being defied? What does this mean for the quest to find the universal field theory? Let's hope they've just done their sums wrong.
Re:How can this be? (Score:2)
10^9th CPU (Score:5, Interesting)
More than one per second (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:More than one per second (Score:2)
Re:More than one per second (Score:2, Funny)
a) They own more than one fabs
b) They print [cut, etch, whatever] more than one processor per waifer. Its called mass production
Otherwise we'd be buying a P4 2Ghz processor at a bargain 9500$ or so.
Tom
Re:More than one per second (Score:5, Funny)
a billion eh? (Score:5, Funny)
All these new features will come at a bit more of a cost but are guaranteed to increase your cpu's power by 50%.
AMD Helped Intel with Sales (Score:3, Insightful)
Competition is good for the consumer. Let's see what happens with Intel's prices now that there're on top.
Re:AMD Helped Intel with Sales (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:AMD Helped Intel with Sales (Score:3, Informative)
There are really only three good reasons to buy a P4
1. Cost. It comes with a Dell
2. Heat. P4s are wickedly better at managing heat.
3. Multimedia. SSE2 when used properly can woop an Athlon.
Outside of those three reasons there isn't any other real reason to use a P4. The ALU and FPU of the
Re:AMD Helped Intel with Sales (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm sure you don't mean to imply that Intel is far out front of AMD, right? I mean, every bench I see puts the AthlonXP 3000+ pretty close to the P4 @ ~3GHz. The newest P4 on the 800MHz FSB pulls ahead slightly more, but then you have to look at the AthlonXP 3200+ on the 400MHz FSB, which is due out soon and competes quite well with it. There's no doubt that Intel has the performance crown right now, but AMD is most certa
According to the RIAA.... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:According to the RIAA.... (Score:2, Funny)
In related news (Score:3, Funny)
Hmm... they need a new corporate slogan then... (Score:5, Funny)
"Over 1 billion Server'd"
what about 4004? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:what about 4004? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:what about 4004? (Score:2)
I was sure that intel had a 4004 in about 1971...
Yes, but 1971 wasn't in 1978...
Wow! (Score:4, Funny)
So... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:So... (Score:2)
FYI - Lewis Carrol coined this before Douglas Adams.
In unrelated news... (Score:5, Funny)
In an unrelated story, Slashdot served up its one billionth page containing a CmdrTaco grammatical error...
Moores law (Score:2, Insightful)
Uh huh (Score:3, Insightful)
Unless AMD64 takes off, that is...
What chips are they counting? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:What chips are they counting? (Score:2)
Well, according to the article: (boldface mine)
"...Intel has shipped its 1 billionth computer chip, according to figures compiled by semiconductor industry analyst firm Mercury Research and verified by Intel."
So yeah, I bet they're counting all kinds of chips they outsourced to others (like AMD). I wonder how many
Mean clock speed (Score:2, Interesting)
Thats..... (Score:3, Funny)
whose estimate? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:whose estimate? (Score:3, Informative)
Press Release [intel.com]
1 billion X86 chips (Score:2)
just remember (Score:2, Insightful)
Blah-blah half-the-world-has-yet-to-make-a-phone-call: I know poverty is something you can easily ignore, and that (asides from being offtopic, or is it?) it probably gets brought up in the wrong way by people with good intentions try to change your mind. I hope this will be a little different.
In addition to our computers, we have a telephony system upon which to ne
And TI ships billions this year (Score:3, Interesting)
How many of the 1G already in the landfill? (Score:3, Interesting)
Given Moore's Law, I'll bet it's a high share.
How many transistors is that? (Score:2)
Intel Processor Production follows the equation (Score:5, Interesting)
13139006 * e^(.17329 * x)
Where x is in years is the cumulative output of Intel.
This allows us to calculate with high accuracy the size of Intel's production line, a secret coveted by industry insiders. Differentiating, we have:
2276816 * e^(.17329 * x)
Thus, Intel currently has 173 million processors in various production stages.
This allows us to calculate another secret, coveted by all geeks - the true value of an Intel CPU.
Intel's current market capitalization is 141.6 billion US$. Based on their Q1 2003 quarterly report, 53.6% of their cost of production (including R&D and other expenses) goes into the Intel Architecture business unit.
If we know the size of the production line, the current valuation, and the percentage dedicated to CPU production, we can compute an average valuation for an Intel CPU.
Each current issue Intel CPU should be worth, on average
Conclusion - for every current release Intel CPU you buy, on average you are being ripped off by about $20.86, about 4.75% the value of the product. That is less than sales tax, and doesn't seem like the work of a greed hungry power monster.
Any similar statistics on Microsoft's product valuation would be highly interesting.
Re:Intel Processor Production follows the equation (Score:3, Informative)
Er... differentiating would give rate of production, which on its own isn't enough to tell you how many are in production at the moment.
If you're working with years as the time unit, assuming rate = current number in production is equivalent to assuming it takes a year to make one chip...
Unless you got the 173 million figure from somewhere else?
Ah memories . . . (Score:2)
Remember . .
When we wouldn't worry about more than 256 colors on a monitor?
When we only needed 640K of RAM?
When a 30-gig hard drive was big?
When a penguin was just something cute you saw at the park?
Now, lets see what changes during that next billion . .
FYI (Score:3, Informative)
Re:The article never really said it... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:The article never really said it... (Score:5, Informative)
Based on combined desktop, laptop and server shipment data from industry analyst firm Mercury Research*, Intel has shipped over one billion x86 CPUs as of April 2003, roughly 25 years after the debut of the first 8086 microprocessor on June 8, 1978.
It was from the x86 family. Have a nice day, thanks for playing.
Re:The article never really said it... (Score:4, Informative)
Heck, the term "computer chip" is so generic that a BCD converter or a DAC fits the definition (sneaks under the wire, barely). A microcontroller most certainly qualifies. Microcontrollers are usually simple CPUs with registers, instruction sets, etc. just like a big CPU. Moot point, though, because they're talking about Intel shipping its billionth x86 family chip.
Re:The article never really said it... (Score:3, Informative)
From the 8086 to today's Intel Pentium 4 processor, Intel Xeon and Intel Centrino mobile technology
They're lumping together all the CPU chips they've ever shipped, from the 8086 to the latest. I imagine they must have shipped a lot more of other types of chips, though.
Daniel
Re:The article never really said it... (Score:2, Informative)
Re:The article never really said it... (Score:2)
they're only counting x86 cpu's not every fricking cpu off the fab line. the article continues to state "The original IBM PC shipped with a version of the 8086". they don't even say which version, but a version. again, this mark is counting x86 chips. not 4004's or 8080's (neither of which really took off much that i recall) or co-processors, or the cpu in my watch that has intell's name stamped on it.
I get the sarcasm just fine (Score:3, Funny)
However, that doesn't stop your "joke" from "sucking donkey cocks" and being "-1, Offtopic".
Re:Statiscal propaganda for the borg.... (Score:2)
Taken from the intel news release on Intel.com
Propaganda? maybe, but not like you thought.
Re:Statiscal propaganda for the borg.... (Score:2)
There's hardly more than a billion CPUs (any variety for computer appliucation) sold PERIOD! Intel doesn't make the only CPUs and they also don't make the only x86 (there have also been lots of companies that produced x86 variants in a sizeable portion of the total x86 shipments.. So NO, it's not 1 billion x86 CPUs ... that would
Re:Statiscal propaganda for the borg.... (Score:2)
Re:AMD effect ... (Score:4, Insightful)
Why ? AMD hasn't shipped a billion x86 chips yet, so even combined they wouldn't have shipped two billion chips yet. And without competition from AMD their CPUs would still be a lot more expensive and a bit slower, not exactly something that lets you sell more CPUs.
Re:AMD effect ... (Score:5, Insightful)
x86 wouldn't be the dominant chip without AMD. Intel never would have landed the life-giving government contracts without AMD, as government regulations regarding purchasing required that a backup distributor be available with compatible products in case the primary distributor fell on hard times. Intel should be thanking AMD wholeheartedly for their help in securing x86's, and of course, Intel's future as market leaders.
Re:Chips? (Score:2)
Bubba asks about the /. Culture (Score:5, Insightful)
Now, I have bought many AMD powered PCs, use Linux alot for getting work done, but think Windows is excellent (MS may be dirty dealing, but that's beside my point), and you gotta be blind not to realize Intel has made a gazillion excellent chips, even if like myself, you chose cheaper alternatives.
It just seems like there are some creepy "Thought Police" types around here anytime something positive is said about corporations like Intel and MS..
PS, I buy AMD and VIA CPU's cause they are cheap and work, not cause Intel "sux"...
Re:How many has ARM shipped? (Score:4, Informative)
Ok, I'm being a little pedantic.. I'd be interested to know how many ARM processors had been produced by all these manufacturers - must be quite a few!