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Building Your Own Hobbit Hole 358

Alien54 writes "Sometimes people go too far in being a fan of a great movie or of a great book. Now you can be the proud owner of a Hobbit Hole. The site offers basic plans, as well as technical resources. For example, one thing you might want to consider in your planning is Large Elliptical Precast Concrete Pipe."
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  • My hobbit hole might get a little warm with my 4 computers all stuffed into a small, poorly circulated room. but a hobbit hole sounds fun. -)
  • Definitly (Score:4, Informative)

    by Squareball ( 523165 ) on Tuesday November 26, 2002 @11:59PM (#4764909)
    Definitly need the concrete pipe here in Florida. In FL you can't dig more than a few feet before you hit water!
    • by DaveAtFraud ( 460127 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:03AM (#4764930) Homepage Journal
      I wasn't aware of anything that constituted a "hillside" in Florida. I thought it was just a sandpile with a swamp at each end.
      • by mbogosian ( 537034 ) <matt AT arenaunlimited DOT com> on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:20AM (#4765008) Homepage
        I wasn't aware of anything that constituted a "hillside" in Florida. I thought it was just a sandpile with a swamp at each end.

        Florida is probably better for a replica of hobgoblin camp or maybe Golem's home (we likesss it) than a hobbit hole.
        • Re:Definitly (Score:5, Informative)

          by JabberWokky ( 19442 ) <slashdot.com@timewarp.org> on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @01:16AM (#4765212) Homepage Journal
          I grew up sleeping underground in Florida.

          Some notes: I grew up on a barrier island called Singer Island in a split level house. The hill it was placed on was almost certainly artificial. My bedroom window was about two inches above the ground. On a couple occasions I had very large insects (including two wolf spiders the size of a man's hand) come inside.

          That said, I got a book for my birthday, "The $50 and Up Underground House", a very out of print (I think) book written by an old school serious hippie environmentalist. You don't see his type around because he actually practiced what he preached and went off to live in the hills. Very fun and interesting book about how to build a cheap house, basically single handed, that is very good shelter. Lots of 'out of the box' thinking, and highly original (solves all the problems associated with underground houses like drainage and pressure but completely rethinking and reinventing the idea). His houses are built with the entrance facing *up* a hill... but they work for very non intuitive but very common sense reasons. Nifty.


          • You don't see his type around because he actually practiced what he preached and went off to live in the hills.

            ...And is now just a gustatory memory in the mind of some bear. That gives one pause to consider, though: if a bear eats a hippie, does he soon get the urge to raid campsites for Chee-tos and cream soda?

            • Re:Definitly (Score:3, Interesting)

              by JabberWokky ( 19442 )
              He's still alive - and in the book he's got a picture of one helluva large bear that he shot when it attacked him (well, more "fell into his house"). Since it was out of season and an act of self preservation, he had to give it to the ranger, whom then promptly buried many hundreds of pounds of good meat. He rants about this for a couple pages.


  • Realism (Score:5, Funny)

    by serps ( 517783 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:00AM (#4764916) Homepage

    And remember: it's not realistic unless you make the chandelier so low that wizards bump their heads on it.

    • Re:Realism (Score:5, Interesting)

      by diamond ( 98616 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:41AM (#4765088)
      Actually, if you listen to the director's commentary track on the special edition DVD, Peter Jackson says the head-bumping incident with Gandalf was an accident. It's a tribute to Sir Ian McKellen that he was able to go right on acting as if it was scripted...seems to have fooled a lot of people, including myself at first glance.
      • Re:Realism (Score:3, Informative)

        by struan ( 165737 )
        Just watched it last night. What I got out of it was that stepping backwards into the chandelier was scripted, but turning and slamming his head into the structural beam of the hobbit-hole was not in the script at all.
    • Re:Realism (Score:5, Funny)

      by Zork the Almighty ( 599344 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @05:33AM (#4765868) Journal
      Yeah, my new Hobbit hole complete with chandelier is *SURE* to get me laid...
  • by Corvaith ( 538529 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:02AM (#4764927) Homepage
    ...you happen to be taller than the average hobbit.

    Which most human adults are.

    Now, I like the concept, but it seemed like the pipe they were using wouldn't accomodate anybody larger than a child.
  • Building permit? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by walt-sjc ( 145127 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:02AM (#4764928)
    Might be a tad bit of a problem getting a building permit.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:09AM (#4764958)
      i bet most potential hobbit-holers will find it easier to get permits than to get laid.
    • Re:Building permit? (Score:3, Interesting)

      by WhiteDragon ( 4556 )
      I wouldn't expect so. Just put down "pre-formed concrete" when asked for the construction method :-) Note that I am sure the design would have to be approved by a county/city engineer, but so does every house built.
    • As anyone who's read the book knows, hobbits do not accept human authority in any way, shape or form. They generally like to stay out of sight of humans, particularly the tax collecting and permit inspecting variety - and living in a hole in the ground certainly is consistant with that end.
  • I can stand up (Score:2, Insightful)

    by SlugLord ( 130081 )
    It's good to see they've scaled the hole up to human size... That would be an expensive playhouse otherwise...
  • Warning (Score:5, Funny)

    by cavegrub ( 558060 ) <cavegrub@fin.ods.org> on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:05AM (#4764947) Journal
    Do not build hobbit holes in large metropolises with pre-existing transit systems. Cohabitation may occur.
    • Re:Warning (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Are you telling me I could actually get laid? As a lifelong LotR fan, I find this difficult to believe.
  • As anyone who has visited Matamata (where Peter J filmed Hobbiton) can tell you, it's the original hobbit hole...

    visit it at high speed if you must - I recommend at least 125 kph.
  • by abhinavnath ( 157483 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:08AM (#4764957)
    "Sometimes people go too far in being a fan of a great movie or of a great book."

    Case in point:
    "After seeing The Fellowship of the Ring, you have probably fantasized about living in a Hobbit Hole and lazing about in the shade."

    Um... not sure how to break this to you, but NO I HAVEN'T.
    *shakes head*
    Too far gone, this one is.
  • by Flounder ( 42112 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:10AM (#4764962)
    The circular pipe is available in diameters (OD or ID, doesn't state) up to 144 inches. Now, I'm taller than average (6'2") but with a floorspace of, say, 1 ft for plumbing, electrical, and the obligatory Cat5. That would leave 11 ft of height. That would feel like being hobbit size walking around in Bag End.

    Now, the other thing to deal with is your local building code. Would they let you live in what is, essentially, sewer pipe?

    It would make a pretty cool bomb shelter/computer room.
    • by inode_buddha ( 576844 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:46AM (#4765106) Journal
      FYI: as a 3-year concrete worker and a 10-year construction worker in the US: the diameter refers to the ID, like all other pipe commonly available here. Hence, the 144-inch equivalent diameter would be 12 feet. I bet it could be finished and furnished comfortably with room to spare. If you can stand to live in what amounts to a straight-line home the only limiting factors (besides your budget and time) would be the local zoning board. Large energy savings are possible, since the temperature of the Earth's crust is fairly constant at about 53 deg. Fahrenheit. Take advantage of thermal mass, I say.

      Bummer about the missiles/bombs tho... it's fairly routine to penetrate (greater than or equal to) 16 ft. thick concrete with conventional munitions... Also, I'd check out the local earthquake/flooding history in your area for the last millenia or so.

      Having said all that, it would make a lot of sense to me to do one of these... if only I could get the financing.....

    • Using the internet as it was originally intended... for the further research of pornography and pipebombs.

      Or pipes, anyway....

  • by Nathdot ( 465087 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:10AM (#4764966)
    Simply by supplying these plans as a package with a Thoreau's Walden, you too can be rid of the biggest smelliest most-hardcore tolkien geeks in your neighborhood. :)

  • click [mac.com]
  • *chuckles* (Score:5, Interesting)

    by anzha ( 138288 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:13AM (#4764979) Homepage Journal

    Great. Just what a Geek needs. Something the promotes sunlight deprivation all teh more. *shakes head*

    Really though, half of what makes Bag End from the movie so damn kewl was the woodwork and *THAT* isn't cheap. My uncle did it for a living (before going back to school again and becoming a newspaper editor) and the cost of godly woodwork of the Hobbit or Elf is enough to buy another whole house...

  • monolithic domes (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Junior J. Junior III ( 192702 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:13AM (#4764981) Homepage
    Build a monolithic dome [monolithicdome.com] and cover it with sod. Should work just as well. Monolithic domes are cool.
  • by digitect ( 217483 ) <digitect@da[ ]ngpaper.com ['nci' in gap]> on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:14AM (#4764982) Homepage
    Malcom Wells wrote seriously about this in the 70's. Check out The Earth-Sheltered House [barnesandnoble.com], a real classic.
  • Uh, yeah... (Score:5, Funny)

    by Izang ( 569135 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:15AM (#4764986)
    My uncle built a rammed earth barn that's half underground and located in a part of the country where the theme music to Deliverance is still on the top 40. He's "off the grid" and lives with his horses like a wild man torn between the Gratefull Dead and his LOTR books.

    If his generator powered Mac Classic could see pictures of that hobbit hole he would be on his backhoe tonight, digging pits all over perfectly good hills.

    Fear the pot smoking LOTR fanatics.

    • by Alsee ( 515537 )
      Fear the pot smoking LOTR fanatics.

      Fear pot smokers? They generally lounge around and say:
      "Yeah, sure, whatever you want is cool with me. Got any potato chips?"

      Yep, real dangerous types them pot smokers :D

  • by Steve G Swine ( 49788 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:20AM (#4765007) Journal
    ... someone is reading a logfile and saying "wtf???"

    Smart move keeping the site simple - serve it up, IIS!
    • Hobbits usually put their pipeweed *in* their pipes to smoke it, but rolling it in joints and hanging out in pipes will do in a pinch, I suppose, as long as you're not overly adventurous about it and it doesn't make you late for dinner...
  • It's gotta be weird to call up the cable company and say you want your hobbit hole to have a broadband connection. Good luck telling them your address. "Just drive through the woods, over the grass field. I'm three hills down on the right." Are those vans good for offroading?
  • by MacAndrew ( 463832 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:26AM (#4765033) Homepage
    You know, a lot of people were way ahead of the curve on this business of living in sewer pipes. Ironically, they are known as the homeless.

    So when yuppies want to abandon their nice cozy frame houses for sewer pipes, may I propose they kill two birds with one stone and just trade?
  • Sometimes people go too far in being a fan of a great movie or of a great book.

    Meh. The true freaks (or at least, the dedicated and skilled ones) work at the Weta Workshop [wetafx.co.nz], who was in charge of making every prop in the movie series.

    Some of the work that is shown on the Special Extended DVD Edition is truly amazing.
  • Round doors in hills? Don't know if they were Tolkien-inspired but take a drive through Saskatchewan some time. There have been homes like this for some time.
  • by Buran ( 150348 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:29AM (#4765047)
    Just imagine a beowulf cluster of these ... no, wait. That'd be Hobbiton, wouldn't it?
  • Topic icon (Score:5, Funny)

    by yerricde ( 125198 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:29AM (#4765048) Homepage Journal

    Building Your Own Hobbit Hole, topic: It's funny. Laugh.

    Isn't the topic icon [slashdot.org] missing something?

    Like fur?

  • bizarre (Score:3, Funny)

    by EverDense ( 575518 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:30AM (#4765050) Homepage
    "After seeing The Fellowship of the Ring, you
    have probably fantasized about living in a Hobbit
    Hole and lazing about in the shade. I know
    I have."

    You poor sad deluded git.
  • by Quaoar ( 614366 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:30AM (#4765054)
    ...when the Internet would have a guide on how to "build" a hole.
  • by El ( 94934 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:33AM (#4765065)
    The building codes in most states in the US require a window large enough to be used as a fire escape in EVERY bedroom. This is difficult to do in a berm house. Also, berm houses in general have a problem with moisture condensation on the interior walls, so they're not for people who don't enjoy mold and mildew.
    • The building codes in most states in the US require a window large enough to be used as a fire escape in EVERY bedroom.

      Bedroom? Why would the builder move out of his parents basement?
    • help with codes (Score:4, Informative)

      by twitter ( 104583 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @01:15AM (#4765206) Homepage Journal
      You can get city approval with the use of codes like this [scisoftware.com] . Just don't tell them you are going to live in it and all will be well. =;>

      There are technical solutions to all the other problems. You can insulate or even heat your walls to avoid moisture problems. If you put a moiture barrier and insulation between your walls and the the air inside you should not have condensation. Who wants to look at concrete walls anyway? Fire, flood and proper ventilation and lighting are real design concerns, but they are balanced by thermal insulation safety from storms and man made hazards. The author's design had large windows or doors on every large room.

      I'll admit, I want to live in a bomb shelter. The author's design was not roomy or sturdy enough for me. Culvert is not cheap either. Still, it's a nice effort.

    • Also, berm houses in general have a problem with moisture condensation on the interior walls, so they're not for people who don't enjoy mold and mildew.

      That is what you use electro-osmotic pulse [army.mil] systems for. He'd have to space these through the house, but further reasearch would be required.

  • Curved Floors (Score:3, Insightful)

    by lommer ( 566164 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:43AM (#4765092)
    I have to say, it does sound somewhat cool (if slightly OTT) to have someone build a habitable hobbit hole. Yet when I looked at your floor plans, I gave up on it.

    Your fantastic elliptical tubing is still leaves you with the problem of curved floors. There are 3 solutions to this. 1) fill the room with enough dirt/concrete/whatever so that you make a flat floor. But this severely reduces you headroom, which is already at a premium. 2) Cut open the tubes and only use the top half + some square walls. But here you loose all of the advantages of prefab that you mentioned. 3) live with curved floors. While you might be able to live comfortably, the only place with enough headroom will be in the middle of the room. As well, anyone who has ever had to pick out furniture for a curved wall can tell you what a pain it is; furnature for a curved floor would be a nightmare, it would all have to be custom and wouldn't be easily relocatable within the room.

    One other thing, do you have an entrance/exit othe than the garage?
    • oops, now I see the foyer, disregard that last question please.
    • Re:Curved Floors (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Catbeller ( 118204 )
      I hate to point out the obvious, but the floors wouldn't be curved. They'd be flat. And prolly made of wood. You lay beams across the tube, with supports cut to match the curve. Cover with subflooring, then cover with hardwood planks.

      The cool thing about that is that you have natural conduit space under your floor.

      Did you ever see cylindrical pressurized lunar habitation modules, back when the U.S. cared about space exploration? Same deal. The diff is that the lunar station are tubes to maintain enormous internal air pressure, compared to this bermed tube/pipe, which keeps out enormous masses of earth and water.

      I remember the earth-sheltered homes built in the '70's. The big problem was leakage and cracks. This tube concept solves the cracking problem, and has Hobbity coolness to boot.

  • by Metalhead01 ( 587101 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:44AM (#4765097) Homepage
    Back home in Phoenix, there were a few underground homes scattered about. They're nice because they keep the house cooler in the summertine, thus avoiding the electric company ass-fucking you in May with higher rates

    However, calling it a hobbit hole turns it into a time and money consuming quest to prove to everyone in the neighborhood that you'll never breed.

  • Womanizer (Score:5, Funny)

    by Gyorg_Lavode ( 520114 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:46AM (#4765102)
    A hobbit hole! Now THAT would help me woo the ladies!
  • look at his schematic! if you have over 8 guests, you apparently need to use the master bathroom, cause its way bigger! ;)
  • On the prototype model picture, I could have sworn that it said "dick to enlarge"! After all those stupid spams, it just cracked me up. If it didn't happen to you, we could trade monitors...

    Somehow I doubt the thing would be "Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort."

    Bunkers, airplanes, and now hobbit-holes. There's a trend going on here!

  • by Jezral ( 449476 ) <mail@tinodidriksen.com> on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:56AM (#4765134) Homepage
    Maybe I shouldn't do this, but all that sewer pipe housing idea just makes me want to go...


    -- Tino Didriksen / projectjj.dk
  • Hobbit Hole (Score:4, Funny)

    by tkarr ( 459657 ) <tkarr@NOSPAm.iastate.edu> on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:56AM (#4765136) Homepage
    My boyfriend always calls me a Hobbit, and says I live in a Hobbit Hole (even though I live in the dorms). It's nice to see that I'm not the only one out there who lives in one! My boyfriend even made me a foam sword and told me to name it "Sting."
  • by Ilan Volow ( 539597 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @01:05AM (#4765168) Homepage
    I'd rather have my own dark tower. It impresses the neighbors and strikes fear into the hearts of travelling mormons.

  • by cheetah ( 9485 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @01:06AM (#4765175)
    I saw the history channel show about this and I thought it was one of the coolest things I had seen in a long time. But now it's for sale... check it out...
    underground fortress [invisiblepuzzle.com]
  • Sometimes people go too far in being a fan of a great movie or of a great book.
    Lies like this I simply will not tolerate.
  • by Animats ( 122034 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @01:23AM (#4765236) Homepage
    Precast concrete pipe is not the way to go. If it's big enough for a useful room, it's too big to move via road.

    The way to go is tunnel liner [armtec.com], bolt-together segments used for making tunnels and small underpasses. Diameters to 6 meters are available standard, and to 36 meters by special order. Various cross sections are possible by mixing curved sections of different radii. You can get a nearly flat floor if desired.

    Armtec's tunnel liner system isn't particularly good looking inside, but there are nicer ones, such as the ones used in newer Jubilee Line stations of the London Underground. The Tube is a good place to look for ideas on how to use curved underground spaces.

  • Would it be possible to position mirrors perfectly to bounce sunlight around throughout the entire thing?

    It would be kind of cool to have my server room under my backyard.
    • I would imagine if one lined the sunlight "tubes" with mirrors, and get the light to focus into single beam, and then use creative refraction to scatter the light throughout the room. True sunlight during the day, through an entire house, would be pretty damn cool.
  • I actually did a screen grab from the Lord of the Rings extended version set, on the 3rd disc, there is a floorplan for Bag End from one of the creative designers of the movie.. it's a much nicer design than this

    I'll email the picture per request (here)
  • According to the floorplan [stormbear.com] we have:
    the Zen room, [geocities.com]
    2 bedrooms (really the same room with different lightbulbs - pink for sluts and blue for assholes),
    the Master bedroom (chains included)
    the living room where hobbits folk dance, []
    the dining room, [angelfire.com]
    the Foyer, (why is the banister sticky?)
    and the Library. (this man has no fucking neck!)

    Note that Hobbit Holes don't have phones, asshole!

  • Clever idea, but... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by dacarr ( 562277 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @02:24AM (#4765445) Homepage Journal
    OK, here's my nitpick.

    I want to make it clear that this is extremely clever, and now I want one! But, here's a few ideas I have.

    I don't think ceiling ductwork is optimal for the application - in fact, placing everything subfloor may be more optimal for aesthetic value, especially for the CAT5 and electrical. (Rather than have things plug into the ceiling or have the wall outlets run down from there, wire them up from the floor. Less intrusive.) It might help to raise the floor a couple of inches to accomodate everything, but the impact if you remove the ceiling (as it were) should be trivial. on the other hand, if you are required to install sprinklers by your local building code...well, still drop everything else below, but keep a trivial ceiling to accomodate the sprinkler system.

    For acoustic purposes, the builder would be advised to place some kind of padding on the walls. Yes, I know, acoustic tiling is expensive and carpeted walls went out when the The Gobbler [lileks.com] was torn down, but something should be done, or you won't be able to discreetly make love on the opposite end of the house from your guests with your SO.

    Furnace and water should be placed centrally to all used utilities. In the floor plan [stormbear.com], you will notice that the builder has the utility closet placed between the pantry and the secondary bath. I think if I were me, I would place the utility closet off of that unused corridor, facing into the center of the oblong there. It takes it a bit farther from the kitchen, but it puts it significantly closer to the master bedroom, and unless you heavily insulate the pipes, heat lossage will be cut down significantly by doing this. The problem can be countered of course by installing secondary heaters as appropriate.

    The chimney in the kitchen is a very smart touch, but an exhaust system in the bathrooms would be very optimal to keep those after-use odors down. =O.o=.

    Take that secondary bath away from that side corridor. Put another attached to the bedroom/study/zen room branch, and another on that other corridor that is not used in the floorplan. It may seem redundant, but you don't (for one thing) want bathrooms *too* close to the kitchen or pantry, and you'll find a bathroom closer to the bedrooms and common areas of the home to be of significant convenience.

    And where's that fireplace in the living room, hmm? =^_^=

    As mentioned in another post of mine, make sure you install an electro-osmotic pulse system to keep those walls dry and intact.

  • Not concrete! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @02:31AM (#4765465)
    Fiberglass is the way to go. Concrete in the ground isn't too good. My dad works for a fiberglass company, mainly in the area of manholes. He's shown me a lot of pictures of concrete manholes that basically rot out of the ground. Sure it'll be good for a few years, but you want to protect your investment! Fiberglass tanks can come just as big. Just need to put something on the inside so you don't get the itches.
  • by Ryu2 ( 89645 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @04:30AM (#4765760) Homepage Journal
    If you drive along Highway 280 from SJ to SF, a few miles past the intersection of 280 and 92, if you look to the right, you'll see a curious white hill-looking house made out of foamlike material. A almost identical replica to the "Hobbit Hole" described therein (in form, not in color, I mean).

    My high school bio teacher's parents live (or lived) in there, IIRC.
  • Living underground (Score:4, Informative)

    by weader ( 44343 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:11PM (#4767740) Homepage
    I grew up in an underground house. My parents weren't hippies, just environmentally conscious and interested in alternative building and heating methods. The house was designed in the late '70's. It is built into the side of a hill, so one side is fully exposed. The house is made mostly out of concrete. The floors and walls were poured, and the roof is made of precast beams (about 3' wide apiece). There is a large atrium in the middle of the house, covered by an A-frame that sticks up above the ground. The roof of the A-frame is made of passive solar panels, which lets in lots of light and heats the room fairly well in the colder months.

    Some answers to common questions:

    - Isn't it dark in the house?
    A: Not at all. In fact, it's much lighter than most normal houses. The entire front of the house is open to the side of the hill, and is mostly windows. Each room on that side has probably 12' to 15' of windows in it. Furthermore, the atrium in the center of the house provides much more light than even the biggest skylight could.

    - Isn't it cold and damp?
    A: No. The exterior of the house was well-sealed when we built it, so moisture isn't a big problem. (There have been leaks over the years, but for the most part they've been easy to fix.) As for being cold, the fact that the house is underground helps regulate the temperature. It is easier to heat in the winter, and easier to cool in the summer because there is less house exposed to the outside conditions than with a normal house.

  • Replies on the hole (Score:4, Interesting)

    by StormBear ( 129565 ) on Wednesday November 27, 2002 @12:42PM (#4768021) Homepage
    Hi all!
    First I wanted to thank whoever posted this to /. I have gotten a lot of good feedback and ideas on how to make the structure better.

    But allow me to make a few observations and corrections.

    There are eight fire exits and they are listed on the site.

    Six rooms, the ones most used, have direct sunlight. You may not be able to see the windows in the pictures, but you have windows in the master bath, master bedroom, living room, foyer, kitchen and dining room. Plus you have skylights in the zen room and the study.

    The space under the floors is at least 18 inches deep which can leave you up to 9 feet of headroom. I think that is enough. The curved walls can also be used to build closets and trunks without taking up floor space or clog the halls.

    I have some concerns with other building methods because of the crushing weight of soil that would need to be dumped on the structure. The plan would not be to excavate, but to find a somewaht flat ground, lay the pipe, apply several layers of moisture barrier and then cover with many feet of soil and landscape. Rain itself would add several TONS of roof loading in a matter of minutes. Also, the point of this is to have a LOW amount of labor-hours. Most rammed earth structures takes years of spare time to build.

    The use of pipe means you can configure the dwelling anyway you want; ringed, linear or multilevel. for example, if you build it as a ringed structure, you can have an open-air garden in the middle with all rooms being open to it. My example is just ONE example.

    My goal for this site was to simply come up with yet ANOTHER idea for home construction that is not based on the traditional house. Who knows if anyone ever builds it? As I said on the site, I am just "expressing my inner architect."

    Storm Bear Williams

"An idealist is one who, on noticing that a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup." - H.L. Mencken