Pocket-Sized RC Cars Hit U.S. Soil 240
airrage writes "RC cars are nothing new. But apparently, ZipZaps, now being sold at RadioShack, are pocket-sized, modifiable, and can be tricked out with body kits and other accessories. Even more impressive, "A 16,000-RPM performance motor is included with all starter kits". The story at extremetech here is." Kinda like the Thinkgeek cars. Yes, TG is part of OSDN - obligatory disclosure.
the whole story needs a disclaimer... (Score:2, Funny)
Neat! (Score:1)
Re:Neat! (Score:1)
just an americanized Bit char-g (Score:1)
Thinkgeek cars? (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Thinkgeek cars? (Score:1)
Oh yeah, you weren't talking about the shirt, were you? Nevermind......
Buy it.. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Buy it... or NOT (Score:2)
Re:Buy it... or NOT (Score:1)
Re:Buy it... or NOT (Score:2)
While I don't necessarily disagree with your evaluation of their collective intelligence, you haven't quite justified your use of profanity.
Re:Buy it... or NOT (Score:1)
Re:Buy it... or NOT (Score:2)
Using OmniWeb and its default User-Agent string, I get "Cannot Load Address -- This page redirects the browser back to itself". I have cookies enabled, too.
Changed the User-Agent string to that of IE 5.2 (OS X), and it works. I lay the blame on the website's idiot coders.
Re:Buy it... or NOT (Score:2)
Re:Buy it... or NOT (Score:2)
Re:Buy it.. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Buy it.. (Score:2)
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Bit Char-G for the USA (Score:2, Interesting)
Cheers,
_GP_
Just like the Thinkgeek cars? (Score:2, Funny)
Neat!
Re:Just like the Thinkgeek cars? (Score:2)
Don't get too excited... (Score:1, Interesting)
The Fast and the Furious mods are pretty cool, though.
Re:Don't get too excited... (Score:2)
High revving and no torque...sounds like your average ricer. :-)
Re:Don't get too excited... (Score:2)
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Re:Don't get too excited... (Score:2)
These cars are only fair if the default Mustang beats the Honda, but the Honda with the turbo kit beats the Mustang.
Re:Don't get too excited... (Score:2)
airports (Score:2)
Re:airports (Score:2)
Its also a small ISP, so the call load isn't severe (occasionally I can go an hour or so with no calls).
Good for anger management (Score:2, Funny)
First requested option (Score:3, Funny)
Re:First requested option (Score:3, Funny)
The high octane NOS® Nitrous motor zooms along at 23,500 RPM and is only available in The Fast And The Furious Street Tuner Upgrade Kit
I've always wondered where those civic lx "racers" have been getting their parts from...
My apologies in advance for those few people out there who enjoy imports AND actually go to the work to make them go fast.
Add for this (Score:2, Interesting)
saw these in Irvine California last May (Score:2)
This is not big, new or interesting news. Blah!
If you want one... (Score:2)
Don't step on them! (Score:5, Funny)
Obligatory link to home page (Score:2)
Kit Suggestions (Score:2, Interesting)
I can just see my co-worker driving around the office thumping his kit car through my cube.
Or how about the "hummer" kit so I can drive my car through the bath tub or a parking lot puddle?
And we definitely need a neon underglow kit for those late night office parties.
Re:Kit Suggestions (Score:1)
Re:Kit Suggestions (Score:2)
Axel gear ratios don't change horsepower (Score:2)
To be pedantic, a different gear will give you different axel torque. Higher torque usually gives you quicker acceleration, at a possible (not always) lowering of top speed - you essentially run out of RPM before the motor is maxed out. Since this has no transmission so no way of playing with different RPM bands, I bet it does lower top speed a bit.
Horsepower is work per unit of time. A different gear ratio changes the work (effort) and the time in equal opposite amounts, horsepower remains constant.
Re:Axel gear ratios don't change horsepower (Score:2)
"On the company's web site, ZipZap tools allow users to play with three different gear ratios and to adjust the "horsepower" and top speed through a "performance" booster kit"
The booster kits include other engines, which do have different horsepowers. I don't imagine that the lower HP 10,000 RPM engine is very popular though.
If I buy one, I'm going straight to the model shop to buy some paints for a flame job. Slapping a pre-made Fast and Furious body onto the same chassis that everyone uses isn't my idea of "custom." I should probably practice on some Hot Wheels first though, they are much cheaper.
These have been out in Japan... (Score:3)
Some links:
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~muro/
http:/
http://digiq.s12.xre
They're about 600-900 yen each, or about $5-$8 US for the basic cars.
Re:These have been out in Japan... (Score:2)
49MHz? (Score:2)
Re:49MHz? (Score:2)
In the North? (Score:1)
but are they coming to Canada?
Radioshack doesn't have shipping info, although I did email someone there.
Almost the same . . . (Score:5, Informative)
Only Much Much cheaper.
Re:Almost the same . . . (Score:3, Interesting)
Not very fast ... but still pretty neat. (Score:2, Informative)
Lots of 'em (Score:3, Interesting)
Still, in my mind, a car just isn't cool as a pocket tank [dansdata.com]. Oh yeah, time to mod one of these puppies for Warhammer 40K...
"I'm not really a sysadmin, I just play one at work..."
My dog will love it! (Score:1)
sporadic
Hobbiest solves penis size insecurity problem. (Score:3, Funny)
"I just never felt it was big enough," explained Grant. "I've tried everything possible to compensate - tried extreme hobbies, got on steroids and worked out, and drove only the biggest, fastest cars. But it seemed that the bigger the compensation I tried, the smaller my pecker felt."
But after seeing the new ZipZap pocket sized RC cars, Grant's problems were solved. "I realized that I'd been looking at this all wrong. Bigger wasn't the answer. These cars are so small and so fun, I feel a lot better about my pecker's potential."
Eunice Abrahms, Grant's girlfriend, concured. "Ever since he bought his first ZipZap my sexual satisfaction has increased immensely," she added while trying out various models at the store. "Grant even lets me help pick which one we get next," she said. "You can hold the really powerful ones in your hand and run the motor and they really shake! Those are my favorite."
Re:Hobbiest solves penis size insecurity problem. (Score:2)
(bastard onion doens't have it in their archives, and neither google nor the wayback machine have caches of it0
Ho (Score:1)
Re:Ho (Score:1)
Actualy she said and I thought I was a whore, but you were close
So... (Score:1)
ThinkGeek Sold Out (Score:2)
Not impressed. (Score:2)
Re:Not impressed. (Score:2)
years ago. I'm sure they're over 30k these days. In addition, there are plenty of gas powered engines that go well over 16k.
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Not many of gas powered engines of any RPM this small...even most model airplane engines would be nearly the size of the entire car.
Re:Not impressed. (Score:2)
Re:Not impressed. (Score:2)
The ThinkGeek cars are 5cm long, and the tee dee looks at least that long from your picture. The thinkgeek cars, in addition, are larger than the remote control cars the article is about. That engine wouldn't fit, even without the gas tank.
I doubt you are going to be able to find any 30,000rpm piston engines that would fit in these cars.
Re:Not impressed. (Score:2)
I'm pretty sure your average (standard 27(?) turn \) 540 is about 18,000rpm. The amount of power they produce won't have changed much since they're a regulatored stock motor, they will be pretty similar to 15 years ago.
Todays modified 540s can range from anywhere between 20,000 and 40,000rpm. The expensive brushless motors will go even higher (these RPMs are only based on a standard 6 cell battery, more cell will give you more RPM).
As for gas, they aren't that great as they're made out to be IHMO, electric can go much faster (1:10th scale cars at average speeds of 180km/h when loaded with many cells). The only major advantage of gas are longer runtimes, and the ease of just fillin'er up. They're also cheaper if you want speed.
Of cource, even if you could fit a 9 turn single (lower winds = less resistance = faster motor) into one of these wee things, you run into another problem: Getting traction ;) It would be like having a top-fuel dragster engine in a Mini Cooper.
Re:Not impressed. (Score:2)
I was thinking of the modified motors WRT the 540's. My bad.
Haven't seen a top fuel engine in a mini cooper, but I have seen a 454 in a Nash Met.
They sound pretty customizable... (Score:5, Funny)
Stickers are essential, too. How else can you show off your Ford Escort Evolution IV or your Chevy Beretta Type R?
Sounds like... (Score:2)
And I agree, the modification community is way over the top. Spend that $25K on a used viper rather than a tricked out 02 civic.
Re:Sounds like... (Score:2)
Of course, most of them are posers
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that is a tremendous understatement. Hundreds of cars with stickers and destroyed interiors for every 5 to 10 cars that have actually had any effort put into them (unless you count incorrect springs as being "worked on", then the ratio is slightly better). Of those 5 to 10 cars, maybe one of them is actually significantly faster than a higher end plain-vanilla stock car.
I respect people who do work that hard on their imports, not so much just because they put effort into doing something well, but there are so many lame imitations all around, that they probably do not get the appreciation they deserve.
I suspect that makes shutting down another car even more enjoyable, though.
can't resist unnatural urges..... (Score:1)
2. Market through Radio Shack
3. ????????
4. Profit!!!!!
Re:can't resist unnatural urges..... (Score:2)
For those too lazy.... (Score:1)
For only $20, I think it'd be a fun toy for any geek, girl or boy.
That age old dilemma (Score:5, Funny)
So you can fit out your Porsche 911 RC with a spoiler, super charger, nitros, chrome alloy mag wheels, cool purple fog downlights, tinted windows, a "SPEEED DEEEMON" windscreen decal, and tiny little "extra large" beverage holders and it will still be defeated by a carpet with only a moderate shag-pile rating.
Pffft!
Re:That age old dilemma (Score:2, Informative)
Because anyone who would do that to the actual thing deserves to be drawn and quartered.
Oh, yeah, and these cars aren't roadsters [dictionary.com]. In fact, there's not even a single roadster in the bunch. Not your quote, of course, but that of the article. Just pointing it out. To claim they have roadsters, they would need cars like the Boxster, Z3 series or M roadster (hrm, it's in the name!), Audi TT, Honda S2000, or even a Miata. But a 911 is not a roadster (the Turbo is only available as a coupe [dictionary.com], but the 996 cab is considered a 911, so technically the 911 is available as coupe or cabriolet [dictionary.com]), nor is a Mustang Cobra (coupe), Honda Civic (coupe), nor a PT Cruiser (not sure what the heck that is -- sport compact utility vehicle? then again, it's just a Neon frame with a fancy body shell, so maybe it's a compact sedan [dictionary.com]?). Silly journalists don't know their car terms.
EVEN a Miata??? (Score:2)
Hey now! Don't casually lump in the car that reintroduced the roadster as a viable car again in the 90's.
Seriously, the Miata is generally considered a classic, C&D consistently puts it in their top 10, and I believe one of the car rags just put it into the top 10 cars of all time list, a weighted list that included value in its measures, putting the car right next to such lofty craft as the Ferrari Modena. And despite not having the supercar-horsepower of the other vehicles you mentioned, it is an incredibly performing roadster. For some reason, too, much of the public perceives it to be a cheap car, but mind that it tops out at ~$27k now. IMHO, it's the car that Austin Healey wishes they could've engineered (used to drive a 3000).
Of course, if you can afford German, by all means....I'd highly recommend it ;-).
DP -- former Miata driver
Re:EVEN a Miata??? (Score:2)
Dammit, you caught me!
I agree that the Miata is an awesome little car. How many other cars can claim (almost) perfect 50/50 front/back weight distribution? The Boxster can't even claim that, and it's got mid-engine placement going for it. As well, roadsters aren't all about big horsepower and quick quarter mile times. They're about having fun, and if you have fun in a Miata, then great. I don't like some of the styling, though, which means I really never considered it when I was looking to buy a roadster.
Can. Did. Enjoy it very, very much. I just need to make the time to get out to the track more often.
Re:EVEN a Miata??? (Score:2)
bleh (Score:1)
Six way controller? (Score:2)
The Starter Kit for each ZipZaps model comes complete with a stock chassis, "performance" motor, 12:1 gearing, factory tires, factory wheels, custom rims, realistic body shell, owner's manual, a collectable trading card, and a six-way controller/charger with removable wrist strap.
Okay, I see forward/reverse and left/right. What're the other two ways or is it talking about something else?
Re:Six way controller? (Score:2)
Re:Six way controller? (Score:2)
$54.99!!!! (Score:2)
Re:$54.99!!!! (Score:2)
Advertising in Media ? (Score:3, Insightful)
I saw a story on CNN about it as well! This is not news, this is advertising.
Data Center 500! (Score:5, Funny)
Bah, Humbug - Mini Z are more impressive :) (Score:3, Insightful)
http://www.kyosho.com/cars/kyod01x3.html [kyosho.com]
"Under the hood":
http://www.kyosho.com/cars/kyod01x1.html [kyosho.com]
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"The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite."
- Thomas Jefferson
Re:Bah, Humbug - Mini Z are more impressive :) (Score:2)
Actually less! You can do a donut "in place" but only because the Mini Z's have that much power/speed. Just not possible with the tinier cars.
can i use a matchbox body on it as a mod? (Score:2)
i guess the scale that they used would be useful.
Re:can i use a matchbox body on it as a mod? (Score:2)
but, i can say that they have a really shitty range of about 6 feet on a hardwood floor... dissapointing!
ill probably be taking it back.
16,000 rpm? I give them 10 minutes (Score:2)
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fabulous...you don't even need.... (Score:2)
Disclaimer: You will however need to present, given that this is radio shack and all
your name
your address
your blood type
your birthday
you SSN (SIN in Canada)
and the serial number from your cue cat
YAPSRCC (Score:2)
Atomic [atomictoys.com]
The controller/charger is kinda cheesy but since it probably won't work but a few days anyway I doubt if it matters.
Re:YAPSRCC (Score:3, Informative)
You friend don't know much, then. ZipZaps and BitChar-G's are not identical. ZipZaps have a longer wheelbase and use a slightly different form factor motor, among other things.
People have swapped the gears and axles from a Zip onto a Bit, though.
microrccars.com (Score:4, Informative)
don't customize them TOO much (Score:2)
keep them stock looking and usually they won't get broken into.
(don't laugh - tandy part #RS-14314, micro-vandal, blue w/mask is in next year's catalog.)
Bought one after work. (Score:2)
I bought one of these after work today at a nearby RS. I went looking for a 5V AC/DC converter, but had no luck. As I was leaving, two of the guys working there were talking about these. I figured I'd easily get $20 worth of fun out of it.
I've run it for a couple hours already tonight, and it's been a blast. The recharge times are about a minute, and I've got a good 5-10 minutes from each charge.
There's only one thing I don't like, and that's the wide turning radius. (Which is tight when moving in reverse.) Maybe one of their suspension upgrades would fix that? ;)
I'm not sure how the batteries will hold up, I'll post again here in a few days and let you know.
Radio Shack is just jumping on a bandwagon (Score:4, Informative)
Micro R/C cars have been out in japan for at least 2 years. Ebay has facilitated their entry into the U.S. as early as last winter (as far as I can tell). More proof that Japan gets cool toys way before we do.
If you want a wider range of customization, go for a Bit Char-G from Tomy [tomy.co.jp], which have very recently been launched as R/C MicroSizers [microsizers.com] in the States (and also under different names in Australia and the U.K.). There are also numerous knockoffs of "bits" coming from China which are generally of lower quality. Hell, even Wal*Mart has a line on these things.
I admit, I first saw micro r/c cars on ThinkGeek (which are called Digi-Q from Takara [takaratoys.co.jp]). After I finally decided to get a micro r/c car, I did some research:
Therefore, I went with a bit. ZipZaps have a 16k rpm motor? So what: You can get 38k rpm motors for bits.
One of the things going against all these toys in the U.S. is the body styles they produce, which are all Japanese. How many people outside of Japan know what a Nissan Skyline is? Tomy may be prepared, as you can see a Mach 5 and Mini Cooper scheduled for release soon. I want a Chevy SSR and a '69 GTO Judge (gotta be orange) personally.
BUT, these things are temendous fun. There's a huge online community around the micro r/c hobby. Check out www.tinyrc.com [tinyrc.com], www.bitchar-g.co.uk [bitchar-g.co.uk] and QFM Racing [questformadness.com] (click the right side of the page).
Re:Radio Shack is just jumping on a bandwagon (Score:2)
Out of the eight starter kits on the Radio Shack website, two Chryslers, two Fords, two Hondas, and two Porsches. There are three upgrade body kits, one kit is American, the other two are Japaneese.
I want a yellow 2002 Civic Si Hatchback body, but I'm not holding my breath. If I want one, I'm to get one, I'm going to have to make it.
Hmmmm (Score:2)
Hey! Boats! :D And best of all, the range of the transmitter is unfortunately not much bigger than your tub anyway, so.. ;)
So THAT'S what a "slashdotting" is (Score:3, Informative)
I was having a pretty quiet Friday here in Sydney. I was at work, idling browsing the 'Net (I am pretty safe saying that in here as my boss even struggles to use MS Word spellcheck without online help) and I saw a post on our ausmicro.com forums mentioning micro RC cars on slashdot.
Next thing I know, our poor little web server is straining under the load and we're getting emails from all over the place. Certainly NOT how I expected another quiet Friday at work to pan out
Yes, Aaron and I (aka ausmicro.com) do import micro and mini radio control equipment into Oz. It all started when we both wanted a Bit Char-G and throught that the US-based vendors were a little on the exxy side (with the dodgy USD-AUD exchange rate et al). Aaron (who is in Canberra) and I (in Sydney) are good friends and both of us had a lot of business/market experience business in Japan and SE Asia. So the phone calls and emails started.
We got our first cars in and we were hooked. Colleagues at our workplaces wanted them and so the demand grew. We started ausmicro to see if anyone else wanted to join us for a group buy (save on freight). Suddenly it became much bigger than we'd ever hoped for.
Everyone's gotta have a vice/hobby and RC is one of ours. Running the website (which gives us great mod ideas!) is the most expensive part of the hobby. I know it sounds like tired rhetoric, but ausmicro.com is about a sense of community - not profit. We load up the landed/dutied cost of the items we import by 5%, which goes towards subsidising the site running costs (transferring ~3GB of traffic per month doesn't come cheaply) Put it this way, after 6mths we're still well and truly in the red. And we expect to stay that way for another 12-18mths. But we're still loving it!
In the last couple of months we've jumped aboard the Mini-Z craze (1:24 scale vs 1:70 scale). These are GREAT fun, too. I can highly recommend http://www.minizworld.com as a good place to start if you're interested in learning about them.
Apologies if this post sounds cheesy/spammy. I assure you - it wasn't intended to be. I'll go as far to say as we're NOT the cheapest place to buy micro RC gear from. We DO NOT have a big range. Even our customer service SUCKS
Thanks again to those who contacted us (and all of the other suppliers/fansites mentioned in this story) for your interest in the hobby. If you have any questions feel free to email us (please be patient - the mail server is currently undergoing intensive care after its heart attack), or ask the community at http://www.ausmicro.com/forum
Cheers - and have a top weekend
Derek (aka DJ!)
derek@ausmicro.com
Re:16,000 RPM motor!! (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.hondaf1.com/english/info/engine.htm
There is even a link to find out what it sounds like on a dyno.
Re:Ni-MHuh? (Score:1)
They say that nickle metal hydride AA batteries cannot be use as replacements for the AA batteries because "real" AA batteries are 1.5 volts each and the rechargable nickle metal hydride AAs are only 1.2 volts. The remote control must *really* want 6 volts to work right. Or at least, that's what they want you to believe.
Re:Anyone else remember Stompers? (Score:2)
Thaks for reminding me of the name. I dug one up in the yard about a year or so ago, well the chassis anyways. I had lost it in my childhood.....my bet is that it had been buried for about 16 years or so. It was in suprisingly good shape. I wanted to 'restore' it but I can't remember where I put it. When I was a kid I remember not caring about the shells for them. The important part was the chassis and the motor. I used to make roads over hills of dirt for them to climb.
**sniff** oh the memories...
Re:Anyone else remember Stompers? (Score:2)