Geeks and Chefs, Unite 217
ooglek writes: "You thought you had every gadget made, until this came along. The new Internet Fridge from LG Appliances. Not only does it keep your food from perishing, but it plays MP3s, TV, a list of the food actually in your fridge, a calendar, and, of course, recipes! Finished in Titanium. Wicked."
The most unnecessary appliance, ever! (Score:1)
And I'm sure I haven't paid as much for them either...
Re:The most unnecessary appliance, ever! (Score:1)
At least I don't stockpile on everything, I pretty much buy whatever I feel like eating that day, of for a couple of days. And you know what, when you look inside your fridge, you see if you are running out of something.
Re:The most unnecessary appliance, ever! (Score:2, Insightful)
Ludacrisp... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Ludacrisp... (Score:1)
The real shortcoming of the device is lack of a printer/ir port. What's the point in having a digital grocery list if you still have to copy it to paper when you go shopping?
Re:Ludacrisp... (Score:2)
Good point...but then I wouldn't be able to prop my feet up on the UPS/foot-rests under the desk [keeps the toes warm during the cold months and is darned comfortable too, don'cha see].
Then one day... (Score:5, Funny)
-JPJ
Thnk that's funny? (Score:5, Funny)
- "That chicken is really going bad... remove it, now, please."
- "Chicken wings again Dave? I am afraid I can't let you have those. How about a healthy salad?"
Sad thing is, I fully expect fridges of the future telling me off for having unhealthy eating habits.
Re:Thnk that's funny? (Score:1)
- Dave, you know I can't allow you to eat that.
- Oh yeah, fridge? Well... up yours!
- That was not very nice, Dave. You make me feel unwanted. Self-destruct sequence activating...
Re:Thnk that's funny? (Score:2)
You love when the fridge gives you a treat, you hate when it calls you names for taking the treat.
Re:Thnk that's funny? (Score:2, Insightful)
"I see you're out of tater tots. There is a sale at King Soopers(TM) on Ore Ida(TM) Tater Tots. Would you like driving directions? (y/n)"
y
Later that day...
"I see you've just purchased Ore Ida(TM) Tater Tots. You may also be interested in Ore Ida(TM) Curly Fries. Would you like to see more SmartFridge.com(TM) recomendations, Dave? (y/n)"
y
"King Soopers(TM) Specials Today:
- Ore Ida(TM) Curly Fries are only $5.49
- Greasy(TM) Chicken Wings $8.99/lb
- Hot Hot Hot(TM) BBQ Sauce $6.87/16oz Bottle
- Stinking Fatty(TM) Cheddar Bratwurst $5.99/6
- Sweet Sweet Coronary(TM) Lard Nuggets $9.99/doz
- Little Powdery(TM) Donuts $7.49/doz.
next page ->"176 kg ? (Score:2)
Re:176 kg ? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:176 kg ? (Score:2)
It's a perfectly reasonable weight for a full sized fridge (25.5 cubic feet is standard for both GE and whirlpool - I just bought one); there are fridges which are lighter, and I think it's a bit odd that this fridge-computer wouldn't be top-of-the-line, as a fridge.
There's a real downside to this, follow my reasoning:
1) No one will buy these things.
2) Business will conclude that people don't want stuff with computers built into them.
3) The stuff that people would actually like to have a built in computer won't be brought to market because of lack of venture capital.
Sigh. Of all the ridiculous things to equip with a computer. A fridge/television makes sense as a space-savings device; if you have one of those open kitchens with table-space facing into the kitchen area, you can watch TV while eating. A fridge-computer? Please.
Re:176 kg ? (Score:2)
This implementation seems like they've gone overboard on the features, but the basic idea of integrating a computer into the fridge isn't as insane as it seems at first sight.
Re:176 kg ? (Score:1)
That depends largely on which side of the Atlantic you live.
Re:176 kg ? (Score:2)
Re:176 kg ? (Score:1)
Re:176 kg ? (Score:2)
SNMP (Score:2)
if only it were so simple *sigh*
Overclockers (Score:5, Funny)
Oh, and can you imagine a beowulf cluster of those?
Re:Overclockers (Score:1)
Re:Overclockers (Score:1)
Admit it. It's not like you overclockers out there haven't considered it...
Re:Overclockers (Score:1)
MORE beer. (I'd have thought that was obvious...)
Re:Overclockers (Score:2)
beowulf (Score:2)
No, but I can imagine keeping peanut brittle clusters cold with these.
How long before (Score:1)
Re:How long before (Score:3, Funny)
What kind of weird sicko are you?
If it keeps me from the red meat portion, there will be compressors rolling!
it scans bar codes (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:it scans bar codes (Score:5, Funny)
Time: 10 years from now
Place: my house
Setting: my daughter's first night w/o adult supervision.
Rriing, rriing. "Hello?"
"This is Dad, how are you doing."
"Fine Dad - Just me and some girlfriends."
"Good. Well have fun, and don't stay up too late. Oh, and by the way, the fridge phoned me and said a few beers had been removed. You wouldn't know anything about that, would you."
"Errrr..."
Rest of the night spent looking for the phone cord/WiFi connection on the fridge. It doesn't exist - Dad was bluffing.
Now if I can only stay ahead of my kids on the geek curve.
Re:it scans bar codes (Score:2, Insightful)
The next time you open your fridge you see a Ad for Jolt Cola because you haven't bought any for a week. Now THAT would be technology gone too far
Medevo
Re:it scans bar codes (Score:2)
Re:it scans bar codes (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:it scans bar codes (Score:2)
In fact, I also pointed out (to the software developer I was discussing this with) that although they'll probably sell the bar code scanning thing - users won't find it very friendly to work with, and it will eventually fail.
(For the fridge to keep up-to-date on what it's stocked with, you have to manually scan in each and every item you add to it. I don't know about you, but that's the last thing I feel like doing after I just got home from the store, with bags full of groceries to put away. Have you ever seen one of those bar code wands read your UPC codes perfectly on the first try, every time? I haven't. People will get pissed when that odd-shaped package requires 7 attempts to get it to register.)
You know what I do think would sell though? A soda dispensing option on the front, where they put the ice-maker and water dispenser. They should let home users purchase the large bags of syrup and rechargeable CO2 cylinders that the stores use for fountain beverages, and attach them to the fridge. In the long run, it would save a *lot* of money on soda, eliminate the need to throw away or recycle a bunch of cans or bottles, save space in the fridge for other things, and never have to worry about your open 2 litre bottle losing its fizz.
Re:it scans bar codes (Score:2)
Cool thing too is that Cola companies will save a fortune because all they sell is the syrup.
See for example Coke just sells the syrup (siz-urp) to the bottlers and they mix it and use the Coke trademark (which they bought also). If you mixed it yourself hopefully you would be getting more for less and you would likely not need to pay a trademark licensing fee.
{as far as bar codes, I think everyone on
Re:it scans bar codes (Score:2)
He bought the whole 4 flavour setup (refurbished) for about CA$600.
Re:it scans bar codes (Score:2)
They've had those for years in the UK, not integrated into the fridge but as a standalone machine, the biggest brand is Sodastream. [sodastream.co.uk] However in my experience, people eventually give up on the concept and go back to buying premade drinks. It ends up having to be a lot of effort, through cleaning the machine, and remembering to buy both the CO2 and the syrup.
Does it have a SPAM filter? (Score:3, Funny)
Cool (Score:2)
And getting cooler.
trash (Score:1)
Great tool for the Soccer Mom (Score:1)
Not to sound sexist, but there are millions of soccer moms out there for whom this would be a valuable and useful tool. IM'ing with the husband at work, displaying calendar of practice times and PTA meetings, reading discussion groups for the next trip to the Magic Kingdom.... With the kids running around all day it is impossible to take time out sitting in the study in front of the desktop PC.
This isn't for
Re:Great tool for the Soccer Mom (Score:1)
Re:Great tool for the Soccer Mom (Score:1)
Consider the layout of the modern upscale suburban household. There are large, open kitchens with islands or "breakfast nooks" in which most of the food preparation and eating is done. The "galley" style kitchen isn't in new home designs and the multi-use kitchen is extremely common these days. Mom is spending a lot of time there and is her terminal is just a glance away with this appliance.
People that can afford to spend several hundred more $ for a fridge will value this kind of convenience. The value I see in this is the functionality that will provided in the future wireless tablet PC. It's a terminall with a lightweight set of functions, but it located where you need it.
Re:Great tool for the Soccer Mom (Score:2)
First, you figure out what's going to take longest to cook--rice, potatoes, maybe a cake that needs to bake--and throw it in the oven. You start the soup base boiling with whatever's there. Then you chop vegetables, and start putting other stuff together. Remember to stir the soup. Make sure what's in the oven is doing okay. Now clean off the counters. Make dressing for salad. Get the pasta off the stove, and drain it.... If you're really spending time in the kitchen, it's doing something.
If you had that extra five minutes, trust me, you'd rather go sit down at a desk somewhere and read e-mails than stand on your feet for another second in the goddamn kitchen, because being a soccer mom is your second shift [amazon.com], and you've already put in more than eight hours.
This is the stupidest appliance I've ever heard of, and most of the mothers I know would roll their eyes at the thought of spending a couple extra hundred dollars for something this ridiculous. And say, "Good god, if you think saving me the three seconds to walk to the computer is worth it, then let's eat out and save me a couple hours."
What'll they think of next? (Score:5, Funny)
Next thing you know, they'll have a CPU that can cook a roast. Oh wait, Intel did that already - the Pentium 4 @ 2.53 GHz.
Re:What'll they think of next? (Score:1)
Re:What'll they think of next? (Score:2)
This one really got me.
For crying out loud, this is supposed to be a fridge !!!
Re:What'll they think of next? (Score:2, Insightful)
I'm all for a digital picture frame.
I wonder if (Score:4, Funny)
This is seriously cool. And I want one yesterday.
Re:I wonder if (Score:2)
Of course it's cool. It's a godddamn fridge!
Wow! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Wow! (Score:1)
computers in everything? wtf! (Score:1)
Re:computers in everything? wtf! (Score:1, Funny)
> leaving messages for other family members can be done with a pen and paper
So can writing letters, but I guess you've never used e-mail?
form factor (Score:1)
Hell, you sit your PC on top of it and have a hell of a cooling system.
ahem (Score:4, Funny)
#/sbin/unlockdoor
unlockdoor: Sorry, I think you've had enough to eat today.
Finally... (Score:1)
reciphp (Score:4, Interesting)
A Hackable Fridge? (Score:2, Funny)
Then your wife won't let anyone open the fridge cuz her favorite show is on and you can't get a beer until its over....
You come home and find out that your kid has hacked up apache to run in the freezer and then posted his M0d on Slashdot with the url www.icebboxen.com and your new 5 grand appliance gets the
Christ save me from the internet....
Puto
Re:A Hackable Fridge? (Score:2)
The password, if there is one, is probably password and can't be changed by the user.
Obsolete cooling technology (Score:2, Interesting)
Microsoft sponsored? (Score:1)
Should be interesting. I won't even bother mentioning some of the obvious places something like this could go.
where's mom? (Score:1)
so now on Southpark it will be, "get your bitch-ass out of the kitchen and bring me some pie!"
Great, just what I need... (Score:2)
Cheers
-b
Wait until the advertisers get a hold of this one (Score:4, Funny)
Or...
"I see you're running low on Miracle Whip so I've taken the liberty of ordering you a crate. You wouldn't want to run out, now would you?"
And what about people who re-use containers? Would my three bean salad and baked beans be counted has having two Country Crock margarines?
No thanks... I prefer the old fashioned exploration of todays modern refrigerators. "Hmmm... Country Crock... Whoops... that's the three bean salad from... ugh... last fourth of July. Better call Hazmat."
This is your refrigerator talking... (Score:1)
"Would you like me to play you some songs now?"
And thus technology advances...
Since we're on the topic of Cooking (Score:2)
Re:Since we're on the topic of Cooking (Score:2)
I usually hit it after seeing Emeril or Alton Brown do something. I'll mostly remember it but want the exact ingredients. Speaking of which, I need to order Alton's show on DVD there. That's some good stuff, he actually goes into the science behind the cooking, so you can apply it to other things that work in the same way. You can also get your truffles and other goodies on the site :-)
Re:Since we're on the topic of Cooking (Score:1)
http://w
http://www.finecooking.com/
http://www.epicurio
and of course...
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&
sig free.
Re: (Score:1)
Ahem. (Score:1)
I really don't appreciate being compared to a kitchen appliance.
To me, pointless, to others... (Score:1)
Simple...there are those of us who aren't geeks.
In a day and age where both parents are usually out working, who really has the time to go shopping when you are out of eggs? Heck there may be times where you simply don't know that you are out. Solution? A fridge that can geep track, automatically charge your card at a market that delivers and boom...there's a guy at your door when you get home from work handing you your food and a recipt.
With the fact that the average american family is doing different things at different times, the messaging system comes in handy as well. Also works for the Latchkey children. Push a button and there's Mom explaining what's for dinner, and if they are old enough to cook on thier own...the recipe.
TV, well that's optional, the FM Radio...not a bad idea, the MP3 player...maybe that's a bit much, but don't dis this machine because we geeks think we can build something similar.
Come to think about it, it was probally a geek who was able to sell LG on the idea...and he's living rich now...lucky bastard, lets hunt him down and beat him up for being a smart arse
Phoenix
For the love of god... (Score:1)
Microslash .NET? (Score:1, Troll)
Well, today I stumbled upon Slashdot, only to have this ad [duq.edu] thrust in my face. (It linked to this location [microsoft.com].)
You'd think that
Be even more careful about what you read here.
Pffffft (Score:1)
Here's another story [theonion.com] I'm sure you'll believe.
To assert that because Microsoft advertises on slashdot they control it is assanine at best. Anyone who reads this site on a regular basis will consistantly see stories biased against Microsoft. If Microsoft wants to waste their money funding a site that spreads negative information about them, more power to them. I'm confident that Microsoft has no control over slashdot or we wouldn't see so many negative stories [slashdot.org] about them.
Oooh (Score:1)
I can see the BUGTRAQ advisory now... (Score:5, Funny)
Havn't I seen something like this before? (Score:1)
http://www.somethingawful.com/article.php?id=30
How about them Web Services (Score:1)
I See We are Still Dazzled by I-Fridges (Score:1)
"Consider a future where all appliances with power cords can be networked using universal plug and play including:
computers
telephones
stereos
even refrigerators"
http://www.powerlinecommunications.net/smarthomes. htm [powerlinec...ations.net]
Nice diagram of the LG I-fridge as a "Residential Gateway":
http://www.slfp.com/011302BIZp.htm [slfp.com]
"Internet Refrigerator"
http://www.xent.com/FoRK-archive/may98/0121.html [xent.com]
"Can Your Refrigerator Surf?"0 . sp [pcworld.com]
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,14675,0
But, most of all, I want to point out the comments that my own company makes about *its* I-fridge:
"We created the first Internet refrigerator to show how the Internet will merge into our everyday lives", 00.html [fujitsu.com]
http://au.fujitsu.com/FAL/CDA/Articles/0,1029,546
The Internet-Enabled Fridge (Score:5, Funny)
Hmm... old adage (Score:2)
Just because you can do something, does not mean you have to.
Sometimes we geeks end up doing things just because we can, often without giving a thought about what would such a device achieve.
Time & money on technology that could be better spent otherwise.
:-/
Totally useless (Score:1)
On the other hand, I have any amount of recipe books which get dirtier each time they are used. I want a webpad with my recipes (fetched from a cache on my stationary box), able to control the volume of MP3 playback on my stereo, which can take spashes of water, being dropped on the floor, with a barcode reader for handling those pesky EAN-128 codes which will probably be used for quality info fairly soon (see the EAN barcode FAQ [ean-int.org] for more info) and which doesn't have a clunky keyboard, thank you very much.
Oh, and it should be dirt cheap.
boo to titanium on fridges (Score:3, Funny)
but thanks to the titanium finish:
YOU CAN'T PUT MAGNETS ON IT!!!!
what kind of world is this?
They did too much and not enough. (Score:2, Insightful)
The ability to leave notes for the kids is novel but the display is too low for most adults and unless that screen tilts outword, it would be difficult to write on.
People don't normally read recipes off the fridge. The store them on the fridge under a magnet but take it off to actually cook so they don't have to walk back and forth to the fridge. Again the screen height doesn't help here.
Many of the food storage features for freshness are already available on many existing refridgerators like GE and Maytag.
It's a big toy for the wealthy that have money to burn on such things. The Titanium finish problably wont match most kitchen styles either IMO. Internet Appliances haven't historically done well. I don't believe this one will either in the mass market.
CPU in a refridgerator (Score:2)
actually sounds cool (Score:2)
Barcodes (Score:2)
What we need is a new legislation that makes all food carry this kind of information in machine-readable forms, so that these possibilities become reality:
- When you open the fridge in the morning, the fridge tells you that the milk is too old.
- Visually impaired users can scan the food they take out and get the list of ingredients displayed with large fonts.
- The batch number of the products can be checked via the internet, so that if a company needs to withdraw some food from the market, all fridges that contain that food will issue a warning to the user.
- Users with food allergies can make the fridge warn if the product they scan contains ingredients that the user cannot eat.
The ingredients list can be retrieved via the internet, but that would make correct fridge operation dependent on a stable internet connection.
Actually, this has potential (Score:2)
I'd like to see something like that, where it works out what your culinary/alimentary preferences are, and when.
Heck, it'd even be fun to tweak...
Couple that to the ability to order the requisite items, and you're actually self-sufficient; no more wife needed! Amazing!
Hey, waitasecond. You can't have sex with a fridge...
Bummer.
!*^*%#@ (Score:2)
Lets' face it, the computer industry is running out of steam and I bet the idea is to force it on people by removing the options to get otherwise.
not to mention the monthly internet connect charges
A Sign of the Apocalypse...? (Score:2)
Re:A Sign of the Apocalypse...? (Score:2)
Whenever a company comes up with something like this, it's another sign that nobody needs to... people are nuts enough already.
:)
(BTW, I was surpised to see this on
Almost as useful as hamburger ear-muffs... (Score:2)
Really, was this designed by Microsoft? Why must every appliance do everything. Can't we have simple devices that do one job well?
Iron Chef on your refrigerator door! (Score:2)
whoa. (Score:2)
Gaggenau Refrigerators (Score:2)
Anyone? Anyone? (Score:2)
Course, at the rate the forest fires are going, soon there won't be ANYTHING within 300 miles of Denver...
Re:Anyone? Anyone? (Score:1)
Re:but is it expensive? (Score:1)
Now can't you accomplish the same with a $900 refrigerator and a $500 PC and a $50 webcam to play the MP3s, take the digital photos and videos, take notes, and use MS-Access to keep track of recipies? I think so. Sheesh, for another $400 you can add an LCD panel!
Re:keeps track of food items?!?!? (Score:1)