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MD5 Proven Ineffective for App Signatures
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on Sunday December 02, @06:31AM
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prostoalex writes "Marc Stevens, Arjen K. Lenstra, and Benne de Weger have released their paper 'Vulnerability of software integrity and code signing applications to chosen-prefix collisions for MD5'. It describes a reproducible attack on MD5 algorithms to fake software signatures. Researchers start off with two simplistic Windows applications — HelloWorld.exe and GoodbyeWorld.exe, and apply a known prefix attack that makes md5() signatures for both of the applications identical. Researchers point out: 'For abusing a chosen-prefix collision on a software integrity protection or a code signing scheme, the attacker should be able to manipulate the files before they are being hashed and/or signed. This may mean that the attacker needs insider access to the party operating the trusted software integrity protection or code signing process.'"
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Hmm... (Score:1)
Perhaps they should consider using something else than SHA-1? SHA-2 anyone?
Well, duh! (Score:5, Insightful)
(Last Journal: Thursday August 23, @11:40AM)
The problem has nothing to do with salt, and can be certainly temporarily "fixed" switching to SHA-1 or, even better, SHA-2. But the real root of the problem here is that, for the attack to work, someone signed as trusted a binary file that contained malicious code in the first place, even if in a disable form.
Let me explain that. First, this is very old news: we know since 2004 [wikipedia.org] that collision can be found in MD5 hashes (two different files with the same md5sum), and there now are tools that can generate collisions in seconds. All you need is a common prefix and suffix for both files and two block of 128 bytes that are generated automatically and you can insert between the prefix and the suffix to create the two files.
Applying this to pretty much any file type that can contain binary data (even XML 1.1!) is trivial. For an executable file you can simply insert code in your prefix/suffix that looks at the pseudo-random 128 bytes and does radically different things depending on it. This as already been demonstrated for HTML+JS and even for postscript files.
Bottom line: if you have an executable file from an untrusted source it may contain bad things (the attack described requires that both the original signed file and the file that you are actually executing are generated by the same hostile source).
Re:ONE block, surely (Score:5, Informative)
Nothing new (Score:5, Insightful)
This of course doesn't mean we should continue to use MD5, but the attack is really of rather theoretical nature.
Re:Nothing new (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.ev4.org/)
Re:Nothing new (Score:5, Informative)
When you inspect these binaries at bit level, they contain only the "good" or the "bad" version, and some random data appended to it to make the MD5 hash of the files collide. This technique thus also works for file formats which don't have control statements such as "if" or "file starts at offset". See also: http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/Nostradamus/ [win.tue.nl], scroll down to: "Didn't Daum and Lucks do something like this in 2005?"
Marc Stevens already constructed these "chosen-prefix" collisions for X.509 Certificates, see the HashClash [win.tue.nl] project page. What's new in these results, is that it did not require massively distributed computing efforts, only one Playstation 3 and less than two days of computation. There is no paper available yet as to how he achieved this major optimization, but his MSc thesis [win.tue.nl] gives a clue: see "future work" at the end of section 7.4.
Re:Nothing new (Score:5, Informative)
X; if (X) then GOOD else EVIL
and
Y; if (X) then GOOD else EVIL
but the evil code would be in the signed good program, it would not be run.
The new attack is different: it is a method to generate blocks GX and EX for two random files such that the files GOOD+GX and EVIL+EX hash to the same checksum.
Well everyone's boned then (Score:4, Interesting)
An attack that requires insider access? Well colour me frightened!
Or don't. That's more accurate anyhow.
This is a REMOTE attack, and reasonably potent (Score:4, Informative)
If you'd read the article, you'd see that one of the (prominent) possible attack scenarios listed is that of software distribution: distribute a good file, with the intent of replacing it later. For example, in debian, even with MD5 checksums on all your data, and tools reporting what's changed during the software update, this would still allow downloading infected files, without noticing.
It's a danger both from malicious distributors, and from hacked distribution sites.
Re:This is a REMOTE attack, and reasonably potent (Score:5, Funny)
(http://synflood.at/blog/)
Reading the article? THIS IS SLASHDOT!!!!!!1!
Right (Score:1)
Let's see now, the attacker already has access to the machine and is probably the one creating or comparing the MD5. Is the problem really with MD5?
Not accurate, not new (Score:5, Insightful)
(http://markshroyer.com/)
MD5 collision attacks aren't really new, although this is a powerful example. An equally meaningful example of a collision attack on the algorithm, in the form of two different PostScript files with the same MD5 hash [cits.rub.de], was provided at least two years ago (IIRC).
The key to understanding the limits of this demonstration's significance is to realize that a collision attack is quite different from a prefix attack. These researchers were able to create a pair of executables having the same hash value by specially constructing them as such; crafting a new executable to match a specific hash value corresponding to some other party's executable is vastly more difficult to achieve.
So while this demonstrates MD5 to be useless for uses where the purported signatory is to be included in our threat analysis -- as has already been demonstrated to us by other researchers -- the algorithm is still relatively safe if our only goal is to ensure that a given executable almost certainly came from a specific party (rather than showing that it is a specific executable from said party). In other words, one could conceivably use MD5 to verify that the Ubuntu packages on that FTP server were in fact produced by Canonical. So no, demonstration does not mark MD5 as completely useless for code signing; the most common applications of code signing are entirely unconcerned with collisions in the hash function.
In conclusion: the title is terribly misleading, or possibly just misinformed. Boo! Hiss!
Birthday Attack (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Birthday Attack (Score:4, Informative)
use two hash functions (Score:5, Informative)
The case that matters is producing a program with the same checksum as a given program, without the ability to manipulate the correct program beforehand. That's still hard.
Nevertheless, code signing mechanisms in general should probably be prepared for flaws in hash functions. It might be best always to use two hash functions and to have some strategy of migrating. That way, if one hash function gets compromised, there is still another one in place and can be used until the original one has been replaced.
Re:use two hash functions (Score:4, Interesting)
(Last Journal: Friday December 17 2004, @07:14PM)
The problem as I see is that the harmless version can be released and gain trust. That version can be tested and inspected, even checking the binary wouldn't reveal malicious code because there wouldn't be any malicious code to find - no dodgy looking system calls, for example. Just a chunk of seemingly random data, which could be disguised as a lookup table, compressed image or whatever. At some later point, after the harmless version has gained trust, its use has become more widespread and the rate of downloads has increased correspondingly, it can be replaced by the malicious version. So while you could initially release a malicious version, being able to first release a harmless version can widen the impact of an attack.
Ah yes, this again (Score:5, Interesting)
(http://www.doxpara.com/)
The relevant links are:
http://www.doxpara.com/research/md5/t1.html [doxpara.com]
http://www.doxpara.com/research/md5/t2.html [doxpara.com]
http://www.doxpara.com/research/md5/md5_someday.pdf [doxpara.com]
I'm pretty sure I talked about third party attestation in that paper.
A more interesting point was made to me just the other day, which is that there's always enough ambient entropy in any real world system to deviate between trusted and untrusted behavior. In other words, for a turing complete app, you *can't* create a meaningful hash, because you aren't capturing all bits that will drive the execution flow. So, getting code signed really doesn't assert anything other than a business relationship. App signatures don't actually work, for any arbitrarily good hash.
Use GnuPG instead (Score:5, Insightful)
Door locks are insecure if you can get a key too! (Score:3, Insightful)
(http://www.myspace.com/mdurell)
So MD5SUM veriefies downloads only (Score:2)
(http://www.houghi.org/)
Not a real life scenario... (Score:3, Insightful)
developper A produce software X(for example openssh), calculate hash of program X and sign the hash with his PGP key.
He then put all these files on mirrors servers on Internet (but not his private PGP key !)
One mirror is hijacked by B.
B wan't to replace X by X' with the same hash than X
This article doesn't provide anything as it says MD5(X+a)=MD5(Y+a), which imply you have to change A in the first place which can't be done easily (and if you can change the original program, then what's the point ?)
A workaround? (Score:1)
(http://www.finnw.me.uk/)
Take trusted_program and
Post both trusted_program2 and false2 on your web page along with their shared md5sum and invite the user to download them (presumably the user trusts you and your web server or he wouldn't download them in the first place.)
The user is now confident that you cannot replace trusted_program2 with malicious_program without changing the md5sum, because this technique only works with two prefixes, not three.
Nothing new (Score:2)
(http://kasperd.net/~kasperd/ | Last Journal: Thursday July 08 2004, @10:18AM)
If it was possible to make a crafted file that would match the md5 of some existing file, which you had no control over, then there would be a lot more reason to worry. Luckily that is not the case yet. Still the demonstration of collisions does serve as a warning, that md5 is weak and maybe somebody will be able to completely break it at some point. There has been a reason to worry about that ever since the collisions were first demonstrated. The construction of additional collisions with meaningful content doesn't change that threat in any way. If you were not worried before this news but you are worried afterwards, it is because you didn't understand the threat.
Re:Nothing new (Score:4, Interesting)
(http://kasperd.net/~kasperd/ | Last Journal: Thursday July 08 2004, @10:18AM)
Security hashes (Score:1)
(http://fnarg.com/)
It's not exactly hard to understand that a 128-bit hash is going to be less unique than a multi-kilobyte executable. I believe 3rd grade math has that covered. With processor speed increasing steadily, these things become easier to break with each passing day.
Md5 as a signature (Score:2)
You have a lengthy verification process for new software - you check it over thoroughly to make sure it can be trusted, and after you certify it as trustworthy you sign it and only need to re-certify if the signature changes next time you download it from me.
I deliver a new version of the software to you (the "good" version), you certify and sign it (using MD5, unfortunately for you). I swap out the "evil" one, and next time you download it -- sure enough, the signature verifies it's fine.
What if you even had a virus scanner that used MD5's on executables for lazy re-scanning when they'd been modified?
I'm not sounding the "holy crap we're doomed" alarms, just pointing out that if you can take two different files and get the same "signature" from them, it's not a very good "signature", now is it?
Use multiple hash functions... (Score:1, Redundant)
Did this concept change over the years, or is it just me? heh
MD5+SHA1? (Score:2)
(http://slashdot.org/ | Last Journal: Saturday February 05 2005, @03:50AM)
Alternative approach using AES-256 (Score:2)
(http://railean.net/)