That's why you have to go out of your way to tell them. So they can say blah blah Biden blah China and Kamala's phone would have been worse. So we can go back to not feeling bad about not visiting this summer.

I think you're thinking of C++ from a Microsoft POV I can tell from your other post, and that is an extreme outlier. A redistributable C++ runtime that ships alongside your app, can be updated independently, has a long support life, and mostly decoupled from the OS release lifetime. So for a Windows C++ app you have a different story.

For C++ software on Linux (since we're talking about Java), your question is silly. No there is no benefit to you whatsoever but you're going to rebuild your software for RedHat 10's runtime and dependency versions anyway, just like you did for each of EL 9, and 8, and 7, and so on, and support all of them in parallel until they EOL because their whole world is tightly coupled to the OS. Because of that, some gross decisions to bundle dependencies will have to be had.

We shouldn't be comparing MSVCRT to _anything_ because nothing else works that way. More developers really should get familiar with deployment processes and understand how that last mile works on the systems their software actually deploy to. You all don't have to manage them at least, but it ain't magic.

Uh what? https://learn.microsoft.com/en... and Microsoft has also moved it to short support windows. It's not a Java or Microsoft thing it's an industry thing that Microsoft is a big proponent of.

The MSVCRT absolutely is versioned too with its own issues, but now we're talking about the old school MS compatibility which has always been an outlier. It's not nothing, and anyone casually expecting that same treatment elsewhere is an idiot and taking what Microsoft pulled off for granted.

You're talking about Java because it's popular. In practical terms we're talking about Java on Linux, the most popular platform for running business software. Linux, all of its relevant native programming runtimes are also versioned and change frequently depending on popularity. Due to its distribution model is all tightly coupled to the OS release. Fun.

I have no empathy for developers that are totally fucking ignorant of runtime logistics. Whole fucking programming environments like Go were designed to get around open source runtime distribution problems, not to mention Java in the first place to get around broader cross platform issues, and you all just want to think you just write C, Java, Python, Ruby, ... what the fuck ever and oblivious to the fact you are targeting a _platform_, a point in time snapshot of all the core language runtime features and other dependencies, and someone has to pay for that point in time stability no matter how you slice it. Or you can speak a dead language and use dead dependencies that don't change and eventually nobody will want to support for other reasons. Hey, Perl is super stable now across Linux releases now! because nobody wants to use it, that's the cycle. Ruby is also in sweet spot. Java is actually a good deal all things considered.

We don't pay for it. That was the deal with open sourcing it, no more long horizon support windows for security backports. Just like anything else open source, the more popular it is, the more it changes, and you either keep up or you stop getting security patches.

It gets worse. The aliens are taking extreme measures to remain hidden, but also actually crashing frequently and world governments are waging some super double secret Cold War to recover the wrecks first and reverse engineer anti-gravity ftl anal probes.

Ok, joking about the anal probes. They actually believe that other shit though, no joke.

Learning vi is about on the level of learning Roman numerals. It's not difficult, but you're also not missing much.

Everybody off the highway now, please let the entitled man through, he wishes to go fast.

You fucking character from a Kurt Vonnegut book.

You're talking about services with $20, $100, $200, etc. a month per user plans for different quantities of tokens, and then per-token API rates beyond that. Obviously they have figured out how to monetize their products, so when you say fully, do you mean like $500, $1000 giga-whale plans? Or selling ads to help offset free users. A public benefit corporation, or at least a company pretending to be nice, they might need to throw something at those pigeons, but it's not the meat they're after.

If you don't know what a 5h quota means, or what I mean by token burn rate, then you are not the target market for those plans. Software developer whales are what fund free access to the top of the line AI/LLM services basically. Free, non-coding "chat" access is a lot closer to simply being turned off, but more likely it would just be throttled down as far as it needs to be. Sure everyone wants more money, the non-coding side of things will surely end up with ads, but... they're well past leather jacket money dude.

Think how Amazon has ads. AWS don't. That make sense? OpenAI, Anthropic, etc. they're both.

What burden are you talking about? The difference between a legal immigrant and an illegal immigrant and a citizen is a piece of paper. Explain what you mean by bad behavior. An illegal immigrant is a person that lives here without legal status, that is all. You're leaving us to fill in the blanks and wonder what exactly you think is bad. Speaking a different language? Cultural displays you're unfamiliar with? Accents? Everything points to some form of bigotry and it's telling that you're attacking someone for being racist because it was assumed it was a Hispanic flavor of bigotry.

The reason nobody takes this argument seriously and assumes some form of bigotry is at play is because you can't describe this hand wavy burden. You just made a lofty statement about millions of people a year since 1987, and I have to fill in the blanks to get your meaning.

You fucking KNOW what you're saying sounds like bigotry, but you tried to date a Brazilian... so you just really don't understand a thing about immigration then is the most charitable explanation I can come up with, and we're right back to not taking you seriously. I've heard it all, "the country is full", well is it? "Skipping the line", I didn't wait in any line, did you? If you think this is a trap because the more you explain yourself the more it's going to sound unintelligent, feelings based, bigoted or worse, then fucking reflect on that will you?

In layman's terms, if the streets smell like piss, people will piss in the streets

It's like saying white men have a wife beating problem, an alcoholism problem, and an obesity problem.

I'm stating facts. But ... why? What's my intent? What else am I laying at the feet of this whole class of people, and why. Oh I'm sorry you're not allowed to ask that by your reasoning, because those are facts. Or opinions. Or stupid. But not hateful, you're not allowed to analyze it that way. For some fucking reason.

... parliament? ... classroom? ... church? ... work? ... broadcast tv or radio?

The same shitty people that cry about declining civility and culture complain about decorum or being held to any kind of a standard. Because they have none of those things. Hard fucking truth.

We've seen this movie before, when they say "violent threats" they mean calls to impeach Trump, with fucking seashells.

Calls for free speech from a large part of our society mean _nothing_ because we've seen what they do with power.

You can see it in things like bird habitats shifting https://txtbba.tamu.edu/specie...
Or pests shifting north https://data.mainepublichealth...

Pick any bug or disease out there that likes it warmer and wetter, pick any bird, look at the trends.
You have to be willfully stupid to ignore the signs at this point.

This screams bored kid that is trapped in the backseat of the family sedan. Like you had one family computer and your parents wouldn't let you build one or rip the panels off their car to see if it will go faster. I mean I get it.

Clearly having a finished well built product was more popular than "configuration options"

We've all grown out of this right? Somewhere in the past forty or so years we've all had the chance to buy, build, customize all of the above and conclude that a project car is cool and all but it doesn't make sense as the family grocery getter. Plus our personal hobby is just that, personal and a hobby. Projecting it onto some "culture" to imply it's bigger than that, just... please. I built my first Linux desktop on minimum wage working through high school money, a gadjillion years ago. I guess that privilege is what helped see past griping about windows not being something it wasn't (or Macs). I could do whatever I wanted with my own box and futzing with x server configs for one thing was not for everyone. More importantly I figured out you can have more than one system and the world doesn't fucking end.

Goofus is butthurt everyone else isn't driving project cars and blaming Toyota for going against "open" car culture. Gallant pulls up to his garage in a Corolla and rolls the door up to reveal a custom hot rod. Fuck off Goofus.