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UT Austin Hit By Massive Security Breach

Posted by timothy on Thu Mar 06, 2003 01:11 PM
from the wonder-if-they-got-mine dept.
mrpuffypants writes "Reported in the Austin-American Statesman: The University of Texas' security was compromised over the weekend, leaking out nearly 60,000 records on students, staff, and faculty. Official word from the school can be found here. Most troubling of all is that, like most schools, UT still uses SSNs for student ID numbers, and that was part of the information taken from them in the attack."
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  • All they got... (Score:5, Funny)

    by FirstManOnMoon (613282) on Thursday March 06 2003, @01:15PM (#5450560)
    "Those SSNs that matched selected individuals in a UT database were captured, together with e-mail address, title, department name, department address, department phone number, and names/dates of employee training programs attended. It is important to note that no student grade or academic records, or personal health or insurance information was disclosed."

    Phew, I feel so much better now!
  • I wish I had known... (Score:3, Funny)

    by Patrick13 (223909) on Thursday March 06 2003, @01:15PM (#5450564)
    (http://www.dotcomicide.com/ | Last Journal: Thursday July 03 2003, @12:46PM)
    I wish I had known about it, I would have asked them to change my transcripts to give me a better GPA. :P
    • Changing GPA by robi2106 (Score:2) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:20PM
  • Action (Score:5, Interesting)

    by StingRayGun (611541) <ryanrrayNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Thursday March 06 2003, @01:15PM (#5450565)
    What legal action may the students and faculty take? In Washington it is illegal to use a students SSN to identify students. There was groaning at every campus in Washington for weeks. I bet there as glad as me that Washington was so on top of this.
    • Pain to rember another number.... by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:38PM
    • Re:Action (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Gossy (130782) on Thursday March 06 2003, @01:44PM (#5450899)
      Why is it such a hassle for Unis to generate their own unique IDs for students?

      As I undertsand, the SSN isn't even a *good* unique identifier - for one thing it has no built-in checksum, and it's possible that your number isn't unique (could be wrong on the latter, but it's not really my point..)

      Just issuing consecutive numbers to students who enrol is just one extremely simple way to replace using SSNs.

      My bank issues me a number that identifies my account, my mobile phone company gives me a number to identify my phone, why is it so hard for unis to issue numbers to identify students?

      Why were the unis in Washington so unhappy with the change? Sure, a few thousand people need to be given numbers and that can take a while to physically issue - but if the law allowed, perhaps a phased implementation of the scheme, so new people are given one of the new numbers?
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      • Core SSN use by hackwrench (Score:1) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:58PM
        • Re:Core SSN use by pkunzipper (Score:1) Thursday March 06 2003, @03:02PM
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  • I used to go to UT Austin (Score:3, Informative)

    by JJAnon (180699) on Thursday March 06 2003, @01:16PM (#5450573)
    and so far, there has been NO communication from UT about the possible theft - the only reason I heard about it is that someone forwarded the article to me this morning. UT seems to be adopting a 'lets-hope-nothing-screwy-happens' attitude to the whole thing, and that is very worrying. There is no way to tell if your ID was one of those stolen - which strikes me as being a little weird. It would make sense to inform the affected individuals as soon as possible, so that they could start being a little more vigilant about their credit histories. But apparently that goes against the wishes of the authorities up high.
  • Illegal? by govtcheez (Score:2) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:16PM
    • Re:Illegal? by jpmjpm1 (Score:1) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:19PM
    • Re:Illegal? by JJAnon (Score:3) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:20PM
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        • Re:Illegal? by Third Normal Form (Score:1) Thursday March 06 2003, @04:27PM
      • Re:Illegal? by cryptor3 (Score:3) Thursday March 06 2003, @06:07PM
    • Re:Illegal? by jkerman (Score:1) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:25PM
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      • Re:Illegal? by The_K4 (Score:3) Thursday March 06 2003, @02:12PM
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  • That sucks by jsb2 (Score:1) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:17PM
  • Slightly OT - choice of credentials (Score:5, Interesting)

    by 1984 (56406) on Thursday March 06 2003, @01:17PM (#5450580)
    OK, so I can see how a university might come to use SSNs as an identifier. They're unique and everyone already has one. Easy.

    But why are SSNs so sensitive? It's like a credit card number -- it's printed some places, gets bandied about in others. Not exactly confidential, and no intuitive or documented boundaries on who should be trusted to with it. So it's a scary number that can be used for bad things, but you'll have to give it out in many circumstances where you aren't fully aware of how it'll be used. Makes it tricky to know who has it, or to make an informed decision about where you use it.

    Again, it's easy to see how the practice of using it as a credential has continued (and got worse), but when did it start?
  • Are the stolen records ever used? (Score:5, Interesting)

    I've seen a whole bunch of 'stolen credit card #' type stories on Slashdot lately... the thing is, we never hear about any repercussions of these thefts. Do the thieves ever use the stolen records in large quantities? Follow-up is good :). Any info people have, post it here (I'm thinking of, in response to the Amazon CC# thefts from a few weeks ago, etc.)
  • One Copy? by robi2106 (Score:2) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:17PM
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  • by efflux (587195) on Thursday March 06 2003, @01:17PM (#5450585)
    My school still uses SSN's as student id's. I've found that as a student employee I run into thousands of id's a day. I know it's the same way for a lot of student employees on campus. When will schools learn the benefits of a autogenerated key?
  • As a recent graduate... by lhbtubajon (Score:1) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:18PM
    • Re:As a recent graduate... (Score:4, Informative)

      by binaryDigit (557647) on Thursday March 06 2003, @01:25PM (#5450681)
      What steps can one take to protect one's identity?

      You can't (not to say that you shouldn't make it more difficult, but just don't fool yourself into thinking that it's possible to do absoultely). It's like your house or car, you can take steps to make it more difficult to break in/steal, but there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop someone is wants to target YOU. So the best thing to do is to introduce a bit of paranoia in your life and assume therefore that it COULD happen and adjust accordingly. So for you're indentity, you do regular checks of your credit report, you keeps tabs on your bank accounts, you review your credit card statements, etc. The absolute worse thing that can happen is for someone to grab your identity and use it for a length of time without your knowledge. Getting your cc company to forgive unauthorized purchases is easy, as long as you do it within 30 days of your statement. Having someone apply for a cc with your info can bite you in the butt if you're trying to buy that car or get that mortgage, so you make sure you check well in advance and make sure that window of exposure is a small as possible.
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    • Re:As a recent graduate... by bpfinn (Score:3) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:28PM
    • Re:As a recent graduate... by John Hasler (Score:2) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:53PM
    • Simple . . . by Idou (Score:2) Thursday March 06 2003, @02:24PM
    • Re:As a recent graduate... by FatAlb3rt (Score:3) Thursday March 06 2003, @02:24PM
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  • Do I play too many games? by Eu4ria (Score:1) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:18PM
  • from what Ive seen (Score:3, Interesting)

    by odyrithm (461343) on Thursday March 06 2003, @01:18PM (#5450598)
    (Last Journal: Monday January 17 2005, @05:36AM)
    in schools, its very easy to retrieve information, I went round no less than 10 junior schools in my area to get information on the new students that are about to enter the new year in the secondary school I work as the information manager.. NOT ONE of the schools asked me for ID, they showed me to a machine and logged me in and let me walk out of the door with the information on floppy...

    Its a very scary.. but what can you do..
  • Penalties (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Skyshadow (508) on Thursday March 06 2003, @01:18PM (#5450600)
    (http://slashdot.org/)
    Am I the only one who thinks that there should be penalties for the hack-ee when private information is stolen?

    Not to adapt a blame-the-victim mindset, but I mean really, why is this stuff on an internet-connected machine to begin with? I work in health care, and with HIPAA coming into effect, we've been moving a substantial part of our network off the internet -- if there's no physical connection, we can't get hacked.

    This stuff needs to be taken seriously, and not just in punishing the offenders. Look at it this way: If your bank got robbed tomorrow and all the items in your safe deposit box were made off with, would you blame the bank if you found out that the vault was left open and the deposit boxes were made of cardboard? I sure would.

    • Re:Penalties by Trevalyx (Score:1) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:28PM
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    • Re:Penalties (Score:4, Informative)

      by Conare (442798) on Thursday March 06 2003, @01:30PM (#5450750)
      (Last Journal: Monday April 22 2002, @12:59PM)
      "I work in health care, and with HIPAA coming into effect, we've been moving a substantial part of our network off the internet -- if there's no physical connection, we can't get hacked. " Oh really? Something like 60% of breaches are internal. What are you going to do now? Put everyone on their own separate network? We are going to see a lot of medical data stolen since Bush took the teeth out of the HIPAA requirements.
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  • preventable? by gh0ul (Score:1) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:18PM
  • Clarification? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by binaryDigit (557647) on Thursday March 06 2003, @01:19PM (#5450606)
    The UT link appears to be /.ed, but when I read it before it sounded like a simple brute force ssn lookup. The attacker simply generated random ssn and sent them against a page that returned information based on ssn. The attacker then simply harvested "positive" hits. The problem was that this interface was exposed to the public and that it had no means of throttling/preventing multiple requests/failed requests.

    On another note, UT is phasing out SSN in many aspects of the students life. My wifes UT ID does not contain her ssn, it has a student # now. Though I assume that there are still many points of interface with the UT system that expects to see ssn.
  • new exploit! by mrtroy (Score:1) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:19PM
  • Yikes... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by TopShelf (92521) on Thursday March 06 2003, @01:20PM (#5450623)
    (http://forechecker.blogspot.com/ | Last Journal: Friday September 07, @08:16PM)
    It's amazing how much information you can get kicked back by simply trolling SSN's. This reminds me of the scandal last year [infoworld.com] with Yale's admissions information, which a Princeton administrator obtained by simply entering SSN's and birthdates on their web site. A brute-force attack like this one, simply adding birthdate to the mix, could have successful results in other places, I'm sure.
  • It's OK! by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:21PM
  • SSN, Birthday, first and last names by jasonrocks (Score:1) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:21PM
  • by revcorrupt (254160) on Thursday March 06 2003, @01:21PM (#5450640)
    (http://www.reversecorruption.com/)
    This is NOT the first time, and I do not believe that it will be the last. I work and attend a medium sized college and I happen to know from other employees that our systems have been compromised on several occasions, and in fact they are still being compromised. I do not believe that any critical information has been stolen, but the security of the critical systems at our nations colleges and universities needs to improve. Our college refuses to publicly admit that they have had a serous breach or deny any knowledge of current security problems. It's quit frustrating to be a computer security enthusiast and attend a college that refuses to admit they have a serious problem.
  • by Dman33 (110217) on Thursday March 06 2003, @01:22PM (#5450645)
    "There are six to 12 ways we could have reduced the risk to the database," Updegrove said. "The sad thing is, we didn't do any of them."

    It is good to see the University being so frank and honest about this matter. I am sure some heads are gonna roll, but at least the people affected will be provided with information and know how it happened.

    Speaking of how it happened... the article does not go into technical details, but I am curious how this database was accessible to the world and was spitting out data to qualifying queries of SSNs without any security context... I am sure someone here on /. has an opinion as to how this happened?
  • This johnny-come-lately "UT" is ripping off the initials and the colors of the original UT [utk.edu] (est. 1794 thank you very much)!!

    We demand that our child State of Texas cease and decist in the molestation of our look and feel.

    Sincerely,
    Volunteer Graduate of 1994

    PS, The UTK English Department is the Home of the Vowels [harbrace.com] ;-)
  • Probably just a student... by $$$$$exyGal (Score:1) Thursday March 06 2003, @01:22PM
  • Hey, here's an idea (Score:3, Interesting)

    by buffer-overflowed (588867) on Thursday March 06 2003, @01:23PM (#5450657)
    (Last Journal: Sunday July 29, @06:59PM)
    SSN's are valuable because you can use them for identity theft. You can use them for identity theft because they're a national ID card. Something "they" (the mythical them) say they are not.

    Apart from that all of the credit reporting, etc. goes through shadow companies that you can do nothing to if they screw you over (IE issue a credit card to a you that's not you).

    We need to make using an SSN for identification purposes entirely illegal, credit card companies and banks be damned. Or say it is a National ID and come up with a better way of securing identities.
  • at least some are getting smarter (Score:5, Interesting)

    by squarefish (561836) on Thursday March 06 2003, @01:23PM (