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Microsoft FrontPage License Prohibits Anti-Microsoft Speech 548

According to this story running at Info World, the license from FrontPage 2002 contains a clause that says 'You may not use the Software in connection with any site that disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia, or their products or services ...' An unfortunate clause that will prevent me from my long term plan of migrating Slashdot to Frontpage (cough). There's lots of other nastiness in this article too. Can anyone find that specific clause? Can anyone find the EULA itself? Update: 09/20 18:10 GMT by T : According to reader bteutsch "FWIW, the clause appears only in the EULA agreement for use of the FrontPage Logo, not with the product or server extensions license."
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Microsoft FrontPage License Prohibits Anti-Microsoft Speech

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  • Microsoft is actually contributing to standartization on the net, as less users will use FrontPage. Great!
    • Is there an upcoming clause that "you may not use the Software to browse a site which disparages MSN, MSNBC", etc.?

      If there were, then whither slashdot, as so many users actully use IE.

      Still using NS 4.75 =p

    • by lcypher ( 446291 )
      From what I understand, you cannot read the EULA until you have purchased the product, opened the shrink wrap, and placed the CD in your CD-ROM and begun the install process.

      So, if you end up disagreeing with the EULA, you cannot take it back because most stores do not allow returns of opened software if there was no defect.

      Do I have this right?
  • They just seem to be getting more and more arrogant. Thankfully, I don't use Frontpage, but I've never seen a license for a tool that says you can't criticize the makers of the tool !!!

    It's like putting a "license" around the use of a hammer saying you can't build a sign that protests the hammer's maker.

    Incredible !
    • Yes, unbelievable. Unbelievable that anyone would believe it. According to this page [microsoft.com], you can't use the Frontpage logo on a site that disparage Microsoft.

    • We need a couple of anti Microsoft free speech sites built using front page, just so that we can have a class action suit against Microsoft for violation of our civil rights.

      Maybe we should just sue anyhow.

      And they wonder why people don't like them

  • Maybe a good thing? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by mjh ( 57755 ) <.moc.nalcnroh. .ta. .kram.> on Thursday September 20, 2001 @11:49AM (#2325703) Homepage Journal
    IANAL, but isn't there something in contract law that says that if you put a clause in a contract that is illegal, then the contract is null and void on its face. For example, I can't put a clause in a contract that says that you will become my slave if you agree to the contract. Slavery is illegal and no contract is allowed to supercede that (AFAIK).

    So the fact that this exists, does it not render the license restrictions that MS is putting into place null and void? In other words, has MS just ceded their rights to control Front Page?

    (Please chill on the flames. If I knew what I was talking about I wouldn't have had to ask!)

    • I dunno, man.

      I'd like to think you were right on this one, but you've got to remember that NDAs are apparently legal, so speech obviously isn't always gaurenteed.
      • NDAs are apparently legal

        I wouldn't be so sure... I've heard they (and non-compete upon exiting a company and several other common contracts) are not very east to defend in court. YMMV, IANAL, etc...

        --
        Evan

    • by M-G ( 44998 )
      Most contracts have a severability clause in them that states that if any part of the contract is found to be invalid or illegal, it doesn't invalidate the rest of the contract.
    • The word you need to look up is "severability".
    • by Jerf ( 17166 ) on Thursday September 20, 2001 @12:11PM (#2325923) Journal
      'IANAL, but isn't there something in contract law that says that if you put a clause in a contract that is illegal, then the contract is null and void on its face. For example, I can't put a clause in a contract that says that you will become my slave if you agree to the contract. Slavery is illegal and no contract is allowed to supercede that (AFAIK).'

      'So the fact that this exists, does it not render the license restrictions that MS is putting into place null and void? In other words, has MS just ceded their rights to control Front Page?'

      IANAL, but you don't need to be a lawyer for this.

      First, as one person pointed out, licenses invariably have clauses that say if one part is found invalid, then only that part is invalidated, not the whole thing. Second, even if what you said is true, then what is nullified is the license. That doesn't mean Microsoft has "ceded" their rights to FrontPage, it means that you no longer have the right to use it.

      This is why contracts have those clauses. For any non-trivial contract, it would not be good that the whole contract was nullified for obvious reasons, for either side.

      Finally, I am surprised this wasn't noticed in a reply, but in states where the UCITA or compatible varient has been passed, this clause is likely to be completely legal, merely a varient on the non-review clause.

      • That doesn't mean Microsoft has "ceded" their rights to FrontPage; it means that you no longer have the right to use it.



        You don't need a license to USE FrontPage - you only need a license to COPY FrontPage. Microsoft doesn't have a 'use-rights' on FrontPage, it has a copyright on FrontPage. Microsoft sells copies of FrontPage, and people who purchase them are allowed to use them. GM sells Corvettes - you get to use them, but you don't get to copy them without a license. (Corvettes are copyrighted and patented works). There is a small group of people who feel that because you don't run software off the CD-Rom, you need a license to copy it onto your hard-drive and a license to copy it the software into ram. These are the same people who think they can renounce their US citizenship and not pay the IRS it's due. The only way you can cede you right to use things you have purchased legally, is if you sign a contract (physically or digitally) or a nasty laws get passed.

  • Is that legal? If I buy a Chevy, I'm allowed to paint 'Chevy Sucks' on it and drive it to the Chevy Sucks 2001 convention.

    If I buy a pair of Nike shoes, I'm allowed to wear them while running in an 'Anti-Nike Slave Labor' 5k run/walk.

    If I buy MSFP, then I can use it to create 'Frontpagesucks.com'.

    D
    • You license it. The copy you're running belongs to Microsoft. Since they own it, they have a perfect right to limit the way you use it.

      Which is why they love DMCA, UCITA, et. al. and why we despise those laws.

      • You license it. The copy you're running belongs to Microsoft.


        That's what Microsoft would have you believe, but as far as I know this has never been tested in court. I fail to see how a non-negotiated EULA can retroactively alter the terms of an already completed sale.

  • Complete BS. (Score:4, Flamebait)

    by Skyshadow ( 508 ) on Thursday September 20, 2001 @11:50AM (#2325711) Homepage
    Jesus, I wonder how long before this "feature" makes it into other MS products -- Internet Explorer anyone?

    I can't believe that Microsoft [The remainder of this post has been sanitized by MS Internet Explorer. Please go back about your business, and remember that Microsoft is only trying to conduct legitimate, non-predatory business. You have been warned.]

    • should be fine. after all, it's not like there is a browser monopoly or anything... <sarcasm>why shouldn't 99% of the people get their information gently sanitized by either MSIE or AOL?</sarcasm>

      -sam
    • Odd how that happened. Oh, well... I'll just hit "Help|Report bug" and file a Konqueror bug report.

      --
      Evan

  • IANAL (Score:3, Informative)

    by PenguinX ( 18932 ) on Thursday September 20, 2001 @11:52AM (#2325732) Homepage
    However it is my understanding of the law that you can create a contract that has a clause in it that breaks the law - (the US Constitution in this case - you know free speech and all) and it just blows the entire contract out of the water.

    Seems like a stupid move on the part of Microsoft IMHO.

    • IANAL, but...

      The Constitution says that the Government can't pass laws impeding freedom of the press; this doesn't mean that they guarentee everyone the right to speak. If you sign a contract not to talk about X that's more-or-less binding.

      Whether enforcing licenses which restrict press freedom could be held as violating the 1rst amendment is way unclear to me...
      • Get your state to pass a law voiding such contracts. Microsoft relies on contract law, a state legal system. If the state code says: "The liberties established in the US Constitution shall apply in all contractual relationships; no party shall abridge or void these rights. Any contract which does the preceding shall be invalid. In the event of intellectual property contracts violating this statute, the intellectual property shall be covered under the sections of the state code regarding sale of non-intellectual property to consumers and the property shall be regarded as a physical commodity bought and sold rather than a good licensed or leased." then there is nothing MSFT can do about it.
        • There doesn't need to be any such law any more than there needs to be a law saying the law must be obeyed. The constitution by definition trumps contract law ... hell, just plain federal law does, as can be seen by many contracts that were modified when they were found to be discriminatory (such as affirmative-action influenced public works contracts). However, invalidating sections of a contract still doesn't invalidate the whole thing.
  • by Black Parrot ( 19622 ) on Thursday September 20, 2001 @11:52AM (#2325742)
    If there's anyone here with that product and no great love for Microsoft, set up a "lauds" page that the average reader will immediately detect as being sarcastic (like the famous Micorsoft/Space Cadet page), but be careful to say nothing overtly critical. Then see whether they come after you.

    I'd volunteer, but they haven't released the Linux version yet.
  • That one's easy (Score:3, Informative)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Thursday September 20, 2001 @11:53AM (#2325746)
    Okay, so use FrontPage to create your page's layout, write all the words in the page that don't refer to M$, M$NBC, M$N such as "the", "tarball" or "grandmother", then complete your page with VI or EMACS, which are pieces of software released under a non-M$-centric license.
    • ...then complete your page with VI or EMACS, which are pieces of software released under a non-M$-centric license.

      Have you ever tried opening a frontpage-generated HTML file in a text editor? Bleedin' Christ, it's a damned mess.

      It would just be easier to dump the shitty WYSIWYG editors and just write the site in plain-jane HTML.

      If you standardize it, they will come. (AND they will be able to read it!)
  • It's a sensible idea, I think. Why would Microsoft [microsoft.com] allow its products to be used against them? It reminds me of Lenin [gnu.org]'s famous remark, "The capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them." Naturally, Microsoft [microsoft.com] not being stupid, they're not going to let you use their rope that way. Of course, most Slashdotters [slashdot.org] are against free-market capitalism [forbes.com], so I suppose it's understandable, in a pathetic sort of way, that this would be considered "newsworthy" around here.
  • Think about it. Your site has a review of windows XP and it finishes off with the conclusion that it is much better then 2000 and everyone should go out and upgrade from 2000.

    Hey you just disparaged 2000 and broke your frontpage license agreement.

    Bob.
  • by Perianwyr Stormcrow ( 157913 ) on Thursday September 20, 2001 @11:54AM (#2325763) Homepage
    It's been said before, and I suppose I'll end up having to say it this time.

    The more MS squeezes, the more slips through their fingers.

    Already, people are pretty much opting out of all this by continuing to run Windows 95 6 years after its release, and Office 97 4 years after its release. Many people have intimated that they'll hang onto 2000 as long as they can. If the longevity of previous MS OS's is any indicator, this may be five years or more.

    And of course, there's always our favorite X-Factor, waiting in the wings to scoop up faithful even from MS's latest and greatest.

    This effect becomes more obvious the more MS tightens the strings...
    • It's been said before, and I suppose I'll end up having to say it this time.

      The more MS squeezes, the more slips through their fingers.


      Yeah, it's been said before, and it seems logical, but where is the marketshare to prove your point? Has Microsoft OS marketshare slipped? Or is it still in the area of 95%?
    • IMO, Windows 2000 is the best desktop operating system available. Everything I have seen or heard about XP leads me to believe that it is a piece of monopolistically hogtied shit. I will not upgrade if I have any say in the matter. I'm not fond of Linux desktops but I would go there before XP.
    • Hmmm... is that LinuX (with X-Windows), or is it Mac OS X? (I guess it couldn't be Windows XP)...

  • The first amendment prevents the federal government from restricting speech. The 14th extended that restriction to the individual states. Time to extend again, to cover corporations.
    Something along the lines of: "No corporation may violate any rights which the government is not allowed to violate."
    (Me is not versed in Lawyerly ways, so there should probably be more to it than that)
  • Someone who actually uses Front Page needs to test this. They need to create a site that criticizes Microsoft, and loudly proclaims that the site uses Front Page. This someone has to have enough money to be able to defend themselves and then test this. This has *got* to be an unreasonable clause to put in a license agreement, and needs to be tested.

    I officially un-volunteer! (Not enough $$)
    • What will testing it accomplish?

      Either the court will throw it out or uphold it. Examine each possibility for a moment.

      What is the end result? Even if this licensing provision is thrown out, an MS critic (or several) have spent millions of dollars and their time in litigation. An ingenious way to drain resources from your enemy. [The Borg weapon seems to be designed merely to drain the shields.]

      OTOH, if the licensing is upheld, it may mean that copyright law needs to be modified to include features that recognize licenses like this.
  • by rodbegbie ( 4449 ) on Thursday September 20, 2001 @11:56AM (#2325787) Homepage
    This does not relate to documents edited with Front Page. It say that you are not allowed to use server-side elements such as the MSN MoneyCentral stock ticker on your website, if you are publishing anti-MS comments.

    rOD.
    • by rodbegbie ( 4449 ) on Thursday September 20, 2001 @12:07PM (#2325883) Homepage
      In the spirit of fighting FUD, here is the whole section of the EULA (emphasis added by myself):

      2. FrontPage*
      (*version corresponding to Office XP)

      FrontPage web components. For purposes of this section, the Software means the FrontPage Web components, including the MSNBC news headline compone nt, the MSN MoneyCentral Stock Quote component, and the MSN Search component.

      Installation and Use. You may install and use any number of copies of the Software on server computers to provide services as part of your web site on the Internet that you des ign with FrontPage and that is not a mobile wireless or interactive television site ("Your Web Site").

      Restrictions. You may not edit or modify the Software in any manner whatsoever. You may not display any of the logos that appear in the Software in any manner that implies sponsorship, endorsement, or license of Your Web Site by the owners of such logos. If the Software contains any active links to other sites, you agree to maintain such active links and not redirect or modify them. You may not market, distribute, sublicense, lease or rent the Software on a stand- alone basis. You may not use the Software in connection with any site that disparages Microsoft, MSN, MSNBC, Expedia or their products or services, infringe any intellectual property or other rights of these parties, violate any state, federal or international law, or promote racism, hatred, or pornography. You shall not convert the news headlines in the MSNBC component into an audio format for redistribution to audio users. You agree to immediately remove the Software from Your Web Site if you do not abide by any of these restrictions after notice.

      rOD.

      • What about community sites that allow user posting? If the admin doesn't wish to read every single post to be able to remove all disparaging remarks about Microsoft, then they can't use FrontPage Web components anywhere on that site?
      • The misinformed article is probably talking about either a specific componenent and content or about the logo program. I dislike reporters who report "a reader informed me" as FACT. If a reader informs you then research it and post it as fact and not as rumor. MS is just protecting it's rights of trademark and copyright, and while most people here don't agree that anyone should have those rights they do still exist. Note that there are laws that allow criticism and sarcasm about a company, person, government, or product. This allows for reviews and parody, which differ from disparagement. Disparage is primarily to lower in rank or character using words that cause harm or resentment. Therefore MS is attempting to reduce the number of people using it's logo/content/product to spread discontent about it's product.

        I don't see any harm done.

        The Frontpage 2002 EULA (in it's entirety):

        END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR MICROSOFT SOFTWARE. IMPORTANT-READ CAREFULLY: This Microsoft End-User License Agreement ("EULA") is a legal agreement between you (either an individual person or a single legal entity, who will be referred to in this EULA as "You") and Microsoft Corporation for the Microsoft software product that accompanies this EULA, including any associated media, printed materials and electronic documentation (the "Software Product"). The Software Product also includes any software updates, add-on components, web services and/or supplements that Microsoft may provide to You or make available to You after the date You obtain Your initial copy of the Software Product to the extent that such items are not accompanied by a separate license agreement or terms of use. By installing, copying, downloading, accessing or otherwise using the Software Product, You agree to be bound by the terms of this EULA. 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      • Okay, so instead of it being illegal to use product "MS foo" to say disparaging things about MS, it's actually "MS bar" that's illegal to use to say disparaging things about MS. From an ethical standpoint, the issue is no different. It's still just as slimy either way.

        And, further, in this case, the "MS bar" in question is a product that, while not technically always required for MS foo to work, is required for the full set of features of MS foo to work.

        In practice, however, this probably won't come up often, given that a site that is disparaging of MS is probably NOT going to be edited in Frontpage.


    • Oh, well, that's OK then.

      !?!?!?!?!!
    • Will I soon be prohibited from posting anti-MS information on sites that use IIS? How about Web servers that use Windows? If they can put this into a license legally, can they also prevent me from using IE to post anti-MS speech or Outlook to e-mail it?

      No, seriously, The clause for those actions wouldn't have to be much different from this one, if you read how it's written.
  • by Reality Master 101 ( 179095 ) <RealityMaster101NO@SPAMgmail.com> on Thursday September 20, 2001 @11:58AM (#2325800) Homepage Journal

    According to this page [microsoft.com], you can't use the Frontpage logo on a site that disparage Microsoft. Which seems pretty reasonable to me.

    Good lord! Lies about Microsoft on Slashdot? Nah, couldn't be.

    • Point 7 --

      "7. You may not display the Logo on any site that disparages Microsoft or its products or services"

      kinda makes it impossible to comply with point 4 --

      "4. The Logo may be displayed only on Web pages that make accurate references to Microsoft."

      Oops.
    • Actually, forget the above. I think I found where this came from. Take a look at this PDF [northwestern.edu] that has the phrase. Unfortunately, the PDF reader sucks when it comes to selecting text. But I think this is the relevent part: "For purposes of this section, the Software means the FrontPage Web components, including the MSNBC news headline compone nt, the MSN MoneyCentral Stock Quote component, and the MSN Search component."

      This section looks like it specifically about components that interface with MSNBC news sites or something like that. It's not clear exactly what this section is referring to.

      In any case, it's not a broad "you can't create an anti-Microsoft web site with Frontpage".

  • Show me where... (Score:5, Informative)

    by The Bastard ( 25271 ) on Thursday September 20, 2001 @12:01PM (#2325824)
    I'm no fan of Microsoft, but I reamed Foster in an e-mail for reporting this crap. Upon reading this the other day, I went to a co-worker who has FrontPage 2002 installed, and we both looked through the included on-line EULA. Damned if we could find any mention of this "prohibition".

    So, show me where in the EULA this is stated. Are there multiple EULAs? Then which one takes precedence ("the last one? well, that wasn't the one I got when I bought it" concept)?

    Damn it...THINK PEOPLE...investigate these things on your own and don't just knee-jerk a reaction because someone says something exists. Doesn't help perceptions much, especially if the liars/FUDers this time around are the open-source proponets....

  • by SIGFPE ( 97527 ) on Thursday September 20, 2001 @12:04PM (#2325850) Homepage
    If I say that slashdot is a load of old crap with contributions from a bunch of smelly spotty sex-starved geeks who think something like an operating system can actually be cool I'll get censored into oblivion by offended moderators pretty damn quickly. Here, watch:

    <Ducks for cover>
    Slashdot is a load of old crap with contributions from a bunch of smelly spotty sex-starved geeks who think something like an operating system can actually be cool
    </Ducks for cover>
  • As an intellectual property attorney, I can only say that this is the most disgusting and repugnant use of intellectual property rights I have ever seen.
  • by ocie ( 6659 )
    I wonder if Lucas is considering a similar clause on the upcomming DVD.
  • I know I've seen the Windows XP license somewhere before.

    http://www.happyfunball.com/hfb.html

  • if (IsInOneSentence("Microsoft", "sucks")){
    throwFits();
    popupEula();
    lockComputer();
    notifyAuthorities();
    showBillWavingHisFingerAndSaying("Naughty Boy!");
    }
  • if you're out there disparaging Microsoft software and services, and you're USING them, then that's pretty hypocritical, and you should switch to vi/Linux/Apache.

    Right?

    I mean, doing that, and enforcing a license like that, are roughly ethically equivalent things.
    • if you're out there disparaging Microsoft software and services, and you're USING them, then that's pretty hypocritical, and you should switch to vi/Linux/Apache.

      So, I shouldn't write a blog entry that says, "Jesus, I'm stuck here using vi. I hate vi,"?

      Or use Frontpage 2000 to write an article critical of Microsoft's OEM licensing practices?

      Or - extending the analogy a bit - use MS Word to write a negative review of Asheron's Call [microsoft.com]?

      Come to think of it, I'm already on shaky ground. I'm posting that this policy is bullshit using MSIE!

      (Oh, for the record - I dig vi.)

  • No one is putting a gun to your head forcing you to license this software. If you don't like it, buy something else.
  • This prompts a lawsuit that would probably fail, but would bring a huge amount of attention to the problematic liscences arising in the software industry, especially from Microsoft.

    We need to sue the US Government. A suit should be filed against the US Government for violating the first amendment by requiring government employees to use Microsoft software. Crazy, somewhat frivilous, and doomed to fail, but if the media would pick it up it might work out.

    Of course, no lawyer would be crazy enough to take the case, and I can't pay for one, but this could definately be a cool way to let the public realize what kind of thing comes up in those licenses that they do not read.
  • by rnturn ( 11092 )
    ``And [sic] unfortunate clause that will prevent me from my long term plan of migrating Slashdot to Frontpage (cough).''

    God bless Microsoft for that, as that migration would surely be a sign that the End of Days were upon us.

  • My current theory is that Microsoft, as a whole, doesn't really push stuff like this. My theory is that it's SPECIFICALLY the software divisions that are desparately trying to justify their budgets to the corporation as a whole (who, from what I've heard, makes much more money as an investment bank than as a software company). As their software slowly dwindles from competition, they take more and more desperate measures to try to prop up their short-term income figures and continue their budgets and salaries.

    My optimistic prediction is that sometime in the future (I have no idea how many years this would take, but...) the software division will be scaled back quite a bit in Microsoft Inc as a whole, and poor Mr. Ballmer will have to dance for his wealth in a different context.

    Microsoft will likely stay wealthy and powerful, but no longer through client-side software at some point.

    My crackpot theory, anyway.

  • Okay, i'll stick my neck out here.

    So what? So what if it says you can't say nasty things about Microsoft? So what if it says that when you use it you have to utter a praise to Bill Gates before you start? So what if it says you must not use it to provide a platform for free software?

    Whenever someone bitches about the GPL and how it doesn't allow companies to take the code and use it in their own propriatory products they're almost deafened by the chant of people shouting "if you don't like the licence, don't use the code"

    Same here. Quite frankly I think they can pretty much put whatever they want in it (provided its legal). If I don't like what they want me to agree to, then i won't use it.

  • It's true, MS doesn't care about the slashdot community. They don't care about the people that know that what they do is wrong. Because we are not only a minority, but we don't spend that much (if anything) on MS software. We're basically nothing to MS's bottom line. So, sadly enough, complaining on Slashdot won't hurt them.

    You want to get back at MS? Make open source software better than MS's. Now when I say that I don't simply mean make it more secure or stable, which is what most oss zealots seem to hear. I mean, make it more secure & stable PLUS faster, more flexible, and have a nicer, easier to use interface. Security and stability alone will not win any battles. The latter are just as important, if not more important in the eyes of the average user.
  • Heh, Gatesco's army of trained attack lawyers outta have fun scanning geocities and tripod anti-MS pages for 'generator = "MS Frontpage"' meta tags.

    BUT... we should remember data on the web is always mutable. I understand that there are Apache mods which will appened information to any document served, letting a free hosting provider 'add' banners to any given webpage for example. It wouldn't be any trick at all to add code to Apache or any other server software that would add the formentioned meta tag to every document served from a high-traffic site such as /.

    We all know that ever last bit of /. is generated on Linux, Taco. How 'bout giving the MSies something to froth about and have Apache or Slash add the tag?
  • OK then here it is, or at least the one I have. Excuse the fucked formatting, apparently the lameness filter objected to some of the HTML.

    Now, where's that clause? Well shit, it's not there. Surprise.

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    identifies You.



    Software Transfer. Except as specified in this Section, the initial
    licensee of the Software Product may make a one-time permanent transfer of this
    EULA and Software Product only directly to an end user. This transfer must
    include all of the Software Product (including all component parts, the media
    and printed materials, any upgrades, this EULA, and, if applicable, the
    Certificate of Authenticity). Such transfer may not be by way of consignment or
    any other indirect transfer. The transferee of such one-time transfer must agree
    to comply with the terms of this EULA, including the obligation not to further
    transfer this EULA and Software Product. Subscription Products are
    non-transferable.



    Termination. Without prejudice to any other rights, Microsoft may
    terminate this EULA if You fail to comply with the terms and conditions of this
    EULA. In such event, You must destroy all copies of the Software Product and all
    of its component parts.




    3. UPGRADES.


    Standard Software Product.

    If the Software Product is labeled as an
    upgrade, You must be properly licensed to use a product identified by
    Microsoft as being eligible for the upgrade in order to use the Software
    Product. A Software Product labeled as an upgrade replaces or supplements (and
    may disable) the product that formed the basis for Your eligibility for the
    upgrade. You may use the resulting upgraded product only in accordance with
    the terms of this EULA. If the Software Product is an upgrade of a component
    of a package of software programs that You licensed as a single product, the
    Software Product may be used and transferred only as part of that single
    product package and may not be separated for use on more than one Device.

    Subscription Based Software Product. The following terms apply to You
    instead of the terms in the previous paragraph if You licensed a Subscription
    Product. If Microsoft releases any upgrades or new versions of the Subscription
    Product during the term of Your subscription, You will be entitled to receive a
    copy of such upgrade(s) or new version(s) at no additional cost, except for any
    applicable connection charges, taxes, duties and shipping costs if You select
    fulfillment by mail. Such upgrades shall be considered part of the Subscription
    Product and subject to all of the terms and conditions of this EULA unless
    otherwise indicated in any license agreement that accompanies such upgrade or
    new version.




    4. INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS. All title and intellectual property
    rights in and to the Software Product (including but not limited to any images,
    photographs, animations, video, audio, music, text, and "applets"
    incorporated into the Software Product), the accompanying printed materials, and
    any copies of the Software Product are owned by Microsoft or its suppliers. All
    title and intellectual property rights in and to the content that is not
    contained in the Software Product, but may be accessed through use of the
    Software Product, is the property of the respective content owners and may be
    protected by applicable copyright or other intellectual property laws and
    treaties. This EULA grants You no rights to use such content. If this Software
    Product contains documentation that is provided only in electronic form, you may
    print one copy of such electronic documentation. You may not copy the printed
    materials accompanying the Software Product.



    5. BACKUP COPY. After installation of one copy of the Software Product
    pursuant to this EULA, you may keep the original media on which the Software
    Product was provided by Microsoft solely for backup or archival purposes. If the
    original media is required to use the Software Product on the Device, you may
    make one copy of the Software Product solely for backup or archival purposes.
    Except as expressly provided in this EULA, you may not otherwise make copies of
    the Software Product or the printed materials accompanying the Software Product.



    6. U.S. GOVERNMENT LICENSE RIGHTS. All Software Product provided to the
    U.S. Government pursuant to solicitations issued on or after December 1, 1995 is
    provided with the commercial license rights and restrictions described elsewhere
    herein. All Software Product provided to the U.S. Government pursuant to
    solicitations issued prior to December 1, 1995 is provided with RESTRICTED
    RIGHTS as provided for in FAR, 48 CFR 52.227-14 (JUNE 1987) or DFAR, 48 CFR
    252.227-7013 (OCT 1988), as applicable.



    7. EXPORT RESTRICTIONS. You acknowledge that the Software Product is of
    U.S. origin. You agree to comply with all applicable international and national
    laws that apply to the Software Product, including the U.S. Export
    Administration Regulations, as well as end-user, end-use and destination
    restrictions issued by U.S. and other governments. For additional information,
    see http://www.microsoft.com/exporting/.



    8. APPLICABLE LAW.



    If you acquired this Software Product in the United States, this EULA is
    governed by the laws of the State of Washington.


    If you acquired this Software Product in Canada, unless expressly prohibited
    by local law, this EULA is governed by the laws in force in the Province of
    Ontario, Canada; and, in respect of any dispute which may arise hereunder, you
    consent to the jurisdiction of the federal and provincial courts sitting in
    Toronto, Ontario. If this Software Product was acquired outside the United
    States, then local law may apply.


    Should you have any questions concerning this EULA, or if you desire to
    contact Microsoft for any reason, please contact the Microsoft subsidiary
    serving your country, or write: Microsoft Sales Information Center/One Microsoft
    Way/Redmond, WA 98052-6399.



    9. LIMITED WARRANTY



    LIMITED WARRANTY FOR SOFTWARE PRODUCTS ACQUIRED IN THE US AND CANADA.
    Microsoft warrants that the SOFTWARE PRODUCT will perform substantially in
    accordance with the accompanying materials for a period of ninety (90) days from
    the date of receipt.


    If an implied warranty or condition is created by your state/jurisdiction and
    federal or state/provincial law prohibits disclaimer of it, you also have an
    implied warranty or condition, BUT ONLY AS TO DEFECTS DISCOVERED DURING THE
    PERIOD OF THIS LIMITED WARRANTY (NINETY DAYS). AS TO ANY DEFECTS DISCOVERED
    AFTER THE NINETY (90) DAY PERIOD, THERE IS NO WARRANTY OR CONDITION OF ANY KIND.
    Some states/jurisdictions do not allow limitations on how long an implied
    warranty or condition lasts, so the above limitation may not apply to you.


    Any supplements or updates to the SOFTWARE PRODUCT, including without
    limitation, any (if any) service packs or hot fixes provided to you after the
    expiration of the ninety (90) day Limited Warranty period are not covered by any
    warranty or condition, express, implied or statutory.


    LIMITATION ON REMEDIES; NO CONSEQUENTIAL OR OTHER DAMAGES. Your exclusive
    remedy for any breach of this Limited Warranty is as set forth below. Except for
    any refund elected by Microsoft, YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO ANY DAMAGES, INCLUDING
    BUT NOT LIMITED TO CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, if the Software Product does not meet
    Microsoft's Limited Warranty, and, to the maximum extent allowed by applicable
    law, even if any remedy fails of its essential purpose. The terms of Section 11
    below ("Exclusion of Incidental, Consequential and Certain Other
    Damages") are also incorporated into this Limited Warranty. Some
    states/jurisdictions do not allow the exclusion or limitation of incidental or
    consequential damages, so the above limitation or exclusion may not apply to
    you. This Limited Warranty gives you specific legal rights. You may have others
    which vary from state/jurisdiction to state/jurisdiction.


    YOUR EXCLUSIVE REMEDY. Microsoft's and its suppliers' entire liability and
    your exclusive remedy shall be, at Microsoft's option from time to time
    exercised subject to applicable law, (a) return of the price paid (if any) for
    the Software Product, or (b) repair or replacement of the Software Product, that
    does not meet this Limited Warranty and that is returned to Microsoft with a
    copy of your receipt. You will receive the remedy elected by Microsoft without
    charge, except that you are responsible for any expenses you may incur (e.g.
    cost of shipping the Software Product to Microsoft). This Limited Warranty is
    void if failure of the Software Product has resulted from accident, abuse,
    misapplication, abnormal use or a virus. Any replacement Software Product will
    be warranted for the remainder of the original warranty period or thirty (30)
    days, whichever is longer. Outside the United States or Canada, neither these
    remedies nor any product support services offered by Microsoft are available
    without proof of purchase from an authorized international source. To exercise
    your remedy, contact: Microsoft, Attn. Microsoft Sales Information Center/One
    Microsoft Way/Redmond, WA 98052-6399, or the Microsoft subsidiary serving your
    country.


    LIMITED WARRANTY FOR SOFTWARE PRODUCTS ACQUIRED OUTSIDE THE US AND CANADA.
    FOR THE LIMITED WARRANTIES AND SPECIAL PROVISIONS PERTAINING TO YOUR PARTICULAR
    JURISDICTION, PLEASE REFER TO YOUR WARRANTY BOOKLET INCLUDED WITH THIS PACKAGE
    OR PROVIDED WITH THE SOFTWARE PRODUCT PRINTED MATERIALS.



    10. DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTIES. THE LIMITED WARRANTY THAT APPEARS ABOVE IS
    THE ONLY EXPRESS WARRANTY MADE TO YOU AND IS PROVIDED IN LIEU OF ANY OTHER
    EXPRESS WARRANTIES (IF ANY) CREATED BY ANY DOCUMENTATION OR PACKAGING. EXCEPT
    FOR THE LIMITED WARRANTY AND TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW,
    MICROSOFT AND ITS SUPPLIERS PROVIDE THE SOFTWARE AND SUPPORT SERVICES (IF ANY) AS
    IS AND WITH ALL FAULTS
    , AND HEREBY DISCLAIM ALL OTHER WARRANTIES AND
    CONDITIONS, EITHER EXPRESS, IMPLIED OR STATUTORY, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO,
    ANY (IF ANY) IMPLIED WARRANTIES, DUTIES OR CONDITIONS OF MERCHANTABILITY, OF
    FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OF ACCURACY OR COMPLETENESS OR RESPONSES, OF
    RESULTS, OF WORKMANLIKE EFFORT, OF LACK OF VIRUSES AND OF LACK OF NEGLIGENCE,
    ALL WITH REGARD TO THE SOFTWARE, AND THE PROVISION OF OR FAILURE TO PROVIDE
    SUPPORT SERVICES. ALSO, THERE IS NO WARRANTY OR CONDITION OF TITLE, QUIET
    ENJOYMENT, QUIET POSSESSION, CORRESPONDENCE TO DESCRIPTION OR NON-INFRINGEMENT
    WITH REGARD TO THE SOFTWARE.



    11. EXCLUSION OF INCIDENTAL, CONSEQUENTIAL AND CERTAIN OTHER DAMAGES. TO
    THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW, IN NO EVENT SHALL MICROSOFT OR
    ITS SUPPLIERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, INDIRECT, OR CONSEQUENTIAL
    DAMAGES WHATSOEVER (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS
    OR CONFIDENTIAL OR OTHER INFORMATION, FOR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION, FOR PERSONAL
    INJURY, FOR LOSS OF PRIVACY, FOR FAILURE TO MEET ANY DUTY INCLUDING OF GOOD
    FAITH OR OF REASONABLE CARE, FOR NEGLIGENCE, AND FOR ANY OTHER PECUNIARY OR
    OTHER LOSS WHATSOEVER) ARISING OUT OF OR IN ANY WAY RELATED TO THE USE OF OR
    INABILITY TO USE THE SOFTWARE PRODUCT, THE PROVISION OF OR FAILURE TO PROVIDE
    SUPPORT SERVICES, OR OTHERWISE UNDER OR IN CONNECTION WITH ANY PROVISION OF THIS
    EULA, EVEN IN THE EVENT OF THE FAULT, TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE), STRICT
    LIABILITY, BREACH OF CONTRACT OR BREACH OF WARRANTY OF MICROSOFT OR ANY
    SUPPLIER, AND EVEN IF MICROSOFT OR ANY SUPPLIER HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE
    POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.



    12. LIMITATION OF LIABILITY AND REMEDIES. NOTWITHSTANDING ANY DAMAGES
    THAT YOU MIGHT INCUR FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER (INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION,
    ALL DAMAGES REFERENCED ABOVE AND ALL DIRECT OR GENERAL DAMAGES), THE ENTIRE
    LIABILITY OF MICROSOFT AND ANY OF ITS SUPPLIERS UNDER ANY PROVISION OF THIS EULA
    AND YOUR EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ALL OF THE FOREGOING (EXCEPT FOR ANY REMEDY OF
    REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT ELECTED BY MICROSOFT WITH RESPECT TO ANY BREACH OF THE
    LIMITED WARRANTY) SHAL BE LIMITED TO THE GREATER OF THE AMOUNT ACTUALLY PAID BY
    YOU FOR THE SOFTWARE OR U.S. $5.00. THE FOREGOING LIMITATIONS, EXCLUSIONS AND
    DISCLAIMERS (INCLUDING SECTIONS 7, 8, AND 9 ABOVE) SHALL APPLY TO THE MAXIMUM
    EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW, EVEN IF ANY REMEDY FAILS ITS ESSENTIAL
    PURPOSE.



    13. ENTIRE AGREEMENT. This EULA (including any addendum or amendment to
    this EULA which is included with the Software Product) is the entire agreement
    between you and Microsoft relating to the Software Product and the support
    services (if any) and they supersede all prior or contemporaneous oral or
    written communications, proposals and representations with respect to the
    Software Product or any other subject matter covered by this EULA. To the extent
    the terms of any Microsoft policies or programs for support services conflict
    with the terms of this EULA, the terms of this EULA shall control.


    Si vous avez acquis votre produit Microsoft au CANADA, la garantie limitée
    suivante vous concerne :


    GARANTIE LIMITÉE


    Microsoft garantit que le Produit fonctionnera conformément aux documents
    inclus pendant une période de 90 jours suivant la date de réception.


    Si une garantie ou condition implicite est créée par votre État ou votre
    territoire et qu'une loi fédérale ou provinciale ou État en interdit le
    déni, vous jouissez également d'une garantie ou condition implicite, MAIS
    UNIQUEMENT POUR LES DÉFAUTS DÉCOUVERTS DURANT LA PÉRIODE DE LA PRÉSENTE
    GARANTIE LIMITÉE (QUATRE-VINGT-DIX JOURS). IL N'Y A AUCUNE GARANTIE OU
    CONDITION DE QUELQUE NATURE QUE CE SOIT QUANT AUX DÉFAUTS DÉCOUVERTS APRÈS
    CETTE PÉRIODE DE QUATRE-VINGT-DIX JOURS. Certains États ou territoires ne
    permettent pas de limiter la durée d'une garantie ou condition implicite de
    sorte que la limitation cidessus peut ne pas s'appliquer à vous.


    Tous les suppléments ou toutes les mises à jour relatifs au Produit,
    notamment, les ensembles de services ou les réparations à chaud (le cas
    échéant) qui vous sont fournis après l'expiration de la période de
    quatre-vingt-dix jours de la garantie limitée ne sont pas couverts par quelque
    garantie ou condition que ce soit, expresse ou implicite.


    LIMITATION DES RECOURS; ABSENCE DE DOMMAGES INDIRECTS OU AUTRES. Votre
    recours exclusif pour toute violation de la présente garantie limitée est
    décrit ciaprès. Sauf pour tout remboursement au choix de Microsoft, si le
    Produit ne respecte pas la garantie limitée de Microsoft et, dans la mesure
    maximale permise par les lois applicables, même si tout recours n'atteint pas
    son but essentiel, VOUS N'AVEZ DROIT À AUCUNS DOMMAGES, NOTAMMENT DES
    DOMMAGES INDIRECTS. Les modalités de la clause Exclusion des dommages
    accessoires, indirects et de certains autres dommages sont également
    intégrées à la présente garantie limitée. Certains États ou territoires ne
    permettent pas l'exclusion ou la limitation des dommages indirects ou
    accessoires de sorte que la limitation ou l'exclusion cidessus peut ne pas s'appliquer
    à vous. La présente garantie limitée vous donne des droits légaux
    spécifiques. Vous pouvez avoir d'autres droits qui peuvent varier d'un
    territoire ou d'un État à un autre. VOTRE RECOURS EXCLUSIF. L'obligation
    intégrale de Microsoft et de ses fournisseurs et votre recours exclusif seront,
    selon le choix de Microsoft de temps à autre sous réserve de toute loi
    applicable, a) le remboursement du prix payé, le cas échéant, pour le Produit
    ou b) la réparation ou le remplacement du Produit qui ne respecte pas la
    présente garantie limitée et qui est retourné à Microsoft avec une copie de
    votre reçu. Vous recevrez la compensation choisie par Microsoft, sans frais,
    sauf que vous êtes responsable des dépenses que vous pourriez engager (p. ex.,
    les frais d'envoi du Produit à Microsoft). La présente garantie limitée est
    nulle si la défectuosité du Produit est causée par un accident, un usage
    abusif, une mauvaise application, un usage anormal ou un virus. Tout Produit de
    remplacement sera garanti pour le reste de la période de garantie initiale ou
    pendant trente (30) jours, selon la plus longue entre ces deux périodes. À l'extérieur
    des États-Unis ou du Canada, ces recours ou l'un quelconque des services de
    soutien technique offerts par Microsoft ne sont pas disponibles sans preuve d'achat
    d'une source internationale autorisée. Pour exercer votre recours, vous devez
    communiquer avec Microsoft et vous adresser au Microsoft Sales Information
    Center/One Microsoft Way/Redmond, WA 98052-6399, ou à la filiale de Microsoft
    de votre pays.


    DÉNI DE GARANTIES. La garantie limitée mentionnée ci-dessus constitue la
    seule garantie expresse qui vous est donnée et remplace toutes autres garanties
    expresses (s'il en est) mentionnées dans un document ou sur un emballage.
    Sauf en ce qui a trait à la garantie limitée et dans la mesure maximale
    permise par les lois applicables, le Produit et les services de soutien
    technique (le cas échéant) sont fournis TELS QUELS ET AVEC TOUS LES
    DÉFAUTS
    par Microsoft et ses fournisseurs, lesquels par les présentes
    dénient toutes autres garanties et conditions expresses, implicites ou en vertu
    de la loi, notamment (le cas échéant) les garanties, devoirs ou conditions
    implicites de qualité marchande, d'adaptation à un usage particulier, d'exactitude
    ou d'exhaustivité des réponses, des résultats, des efforts déployés selon
    les règles de l'art, d'absence de virus et de négligence, le tout à l'égard
    du Produit et de la prestation des services de soutien technique ou de l'omission
    d'une telle prestation. PAR AILLEURS, IL N'Y A AUCUNE GARANTIE OU CONDITION
    QUANT AU TITRE DE PROPRIÉTÉ, À LA JOUISSANCE OU LA POSSESSION PAISIBLE, À LA
    CONCORDANCE À UNE DESCRIPTION NI QUANT À UNE ABSENCE DE CONTREFAÇON
    CONCERNANT LE PRODUIT.


    EXCLUSION DES DOMMAGES ACCESSOIRES, INDIRECTS ET DE CERTAINS AUTRES DOMMAGES.
    DANS LA MESURE MAXIMALE PERMISE PAR LES LOIS APPLICABLES, EN AUCUN CAS MICROSOFT
    OU SES FOURNISSEURS NE SERONT RESPONSABLES DES DOMMAGES SPÉCIAUX, CONSÉCUTIFS,
    ACCESSOIRES OU INDIRECTS DE QUELQUE NATURE QUE CE SOIT (NOTAMMENT, LES DOMMAGES
    À L'ÉGARD DU MANQUE À GAGNER OU DE LA DIVULGATION DE RENSEIGNEMENTS
    CONFIDENTIELS OU AUTRES, DE LA PERTE D'EXPLOITATION, DE BLESSURES CORPORELLES,
    DE LA VIOLATION DE LA VIE PRIVÉE, DE L'OMISSION DE REMPLIR TOUT DEVOIR, Y
    COMPRIS D'AGIR DE BONNE FOI OU D'EXERCER UN SOIN RAISONNABLE, DE LA
    NÉGLIGENCE ET DE TOUTE AUTRE PERTE PÉCUNIAIRE OU AUTRE PERTE DE QUELQUE NATURE
    QUE CE SOIT) SE RAPPORTANT DE QUELQUE MANIÈRE QUE CE SOIT À L'UTILISATION DU
    PRODUIT OU À L'INCAPACITÉ DE S'EN SERVIR, À LA PRESTATION OU À L'OMISSION
    D'UNE TELLE PRESTATION DE SERVICES DE SOUTIEN TECHNIQUE OU AUTREMENT AUX
    TERMES DE TOUTE DISPOSITION DU PRÉSENT EULA OU RELATIVEMENT À UNE TELLE
    DISPOSITION, MÊME EN CAS DE FAUTE, DE DÉLIT CIVIL (Y COMPRIS LA NÉGLIGENCE),
    DE RESPONSABILITÉ STRICTE, DE VIOLATION DE CONTRAT OU DE VIOLATION DE GARANTIE
    DE MICROSOFT OU DE TOUT FOURNISSEUR ET MÊME SI MICROSOFT OU TOUT FOURNISSEUR A
    ÉTÉ AVISÉ DE LA POSSIBILITÉ DE TELS DOMMAGES.


    LIMITATION DE RESPONSABILITÉ ET RECOURS. Malgré les dommages que vous
    puissiez subir pour quelque motif que ce soit (notamment, tous les dommages
    susmentionnés et tous les dommages directs ou généraux), l'obligation
    intégrale de Microsoft et de l'un ou l'autre de ses fournisseurs aux termes
    de toute disposition du présent EULA et votre recours exclusif à l'égard de
    tout ce qui précède (sauf en ce qui concerne tout recours de réparation ou de
    remplacement choisi par Microsoft à l'égard de tout manquement à la
    garantie limitée) se limite au plus élevé entre les montants suivants : le
    montant que vous avez réellement payé pour le Produit ou 5,00 $US. Les
    limites, exclusions et dénis qui précèdent (y compris les clauses ci-dessus),
    s'appliquent dans la mesure maximale permise par les lois applicables, même
    si tout recours n'atteint pas son but essentiel.


    La présente Convention est régie par les lois de la province d'Ontario,
    Canada. Chacune des parties à la présente reconnaît irrévocablement la
    compétence des tribunaux de la province d'Ontario et consent à instituer
    tout litige qui pourrait découler de la présente auprès des tribunaux situés
    dans le district judiciaire de York, province d'Ontario.


    Au cas où vous auriez des questions concernant cette licence ou que vous
    désiriez vous mettre en rapport avec Microsoft pour quelque raison que ce soit,
    veuillez contacter la succursale Microsoft desservant votre pays, dont l'adresse
    est fournie dans ce produit, ou écrivez à : Microsoft Sales Information
    Center, One Microsoft Way, Redmond, Washington 98052-6399.



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