Bing Search is Coming To ChatGPT (engadget.com) 24
ChatGPT no longer needs to rely on its own models or plugins to provide information to users: Microsoft has announced Bing Search is integrating into ChatGPT to provide more relevant -- and potentially newer -- responses. From a report: Bing will act as the "default search experience," allowing ChatGPT to pull answers from the internet and provide citations. Microsoft and OpenAI have worked together closely over the last few months, with Bing, itself, running on GPT-4 (with some tailoring for searches). Bing works by displaying responses in detailed or summary form and sources facts and suggestions with footnotes of sorts -- features it can bring to ChatGPT to, possibly, provide more precise information. Previously, ChatGPT relied solely on individual plugins to access any recent information.
Re: I still think it is a scam (Score:4, Interesting)
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The problem is, the code it spits out isn't always correct - plus people have shown it can tend to be insecure. You shouldn't take its offering as a de facto end result.
I tried it on a lark a week or two ago. My daughter had asked me to generate some code for her... I started on the task, then thought "this is tedious and is going to take an hour or so... hey let's try ChatGPT". I do think the language processing is phenomenal - very natural. But I did have to walk it through about a half-dozen iterations t
Re: I still think it is a scam (Score:2)
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This.
It's basically an online secretary that can do dumb stuff for you. It's pretty good at that, at least better than most interns.
Re:I still think it is a scam (Score:4, Interesting)
> I haven't seen it do anything all that impressive
There is a reason why Deepmind never went to the LLM way. You can't scale it up.
Google Gemini on the other hand is a different story. It can use LLM in addition to any number of other individually trained AIs. It can only do as many individual tasks as it has different AIs, but there is no limit to how many different AIs it can have and because those can be trained individually, you can scale it up. If we never invent the AGI, then Google Gemini will most likely be the best thing we can do.
> I try and keep getting asked to sign up for something. Why am I signing up to play with a chat bot?
You can use ChatGPT via this website with https://temp-mail.org/en/ [temp-mail.org]
https://chat.forefront.ai/ [forefront.ai]
> So I am left out of the loop very confused on why people are getting so hard over this
It can do pretty impressive stuff. E.g. you can ask it to give greatest invention for every century starting from year 1000 and it will give you a list. It might not be perfect, some answers might be just wrong, but it is mostly correct about common stuff like this. From my opinion. Creating lists is the best feature it has. You could do it yourself with google, but it would require much more work. If it could do the same thing for research papers with actual real references (currently it mostly just makes them up and you can't find the actual references), it would have an impact on research. There is one other group trying to do this and Google most likely will implement this also. You could do meta-analysis with just a simple query to the AI, which would make it really easy and fast to test different ideas as long as there are studies about the subject.
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2. I am confused. What you sent me were chat bots. I thought there was more.
3. I have yet to see anything impressive.
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My sister, who's 65, started using it to enhance the descriptions of the tat she sells on Etsy, says it's the dogs bollocks.
Makes one wonder what all the cash & intelligence used to develop it was really for?
Re:I still think it is a scam (Score:5, Interesting)
Something I've been using it for is giving me better documentation on certain obscure or hard-to-search programming things. For instance, (e)lisp uses both an @ and a , (comma) operator. Searching for documentation with those things is a pain in the ass, but ChatGPT understands the context and can tell me how to use them, and its explanation is usually better than the officially crafted one.
Same with some features of C++ or Unreal; the documentation exists, but it's a pain to find. Sometimes there aren't any readily available examples. ChatGPT will give me examples of things. Or I can throw it some completely novel (i.e., I wrote it myself) code, and ask it to explain what's going on, and it does a pretty decent job.
It's a tool that ACTUALLY removes some of the drudgery, which is pretty novel. Google and search in general made certain bits of knowledge available when they weren't before, but LLMs now make it possible to find the knowledge that has been buried by SEO and 65 trillion tonnes of BS.
It still requires me to know enough of what I'm looking for that I can validate that it's true, yes, but that's fine by me. For code, it just means that I have a useful starting point and I can quickly verify that the thing I've been given compiles and works as expected.
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You know you can buy a SIM card for a buck from your local convenience store, right? If they didn't have the phone number requirement, they would have millions of bots hammering their servers 24/7 and making their service unusable for normal humans.
ChatScat (Score:3, Interesting)
I tried their chat beta recently, and when I started pointing out logical holes in the answer, the bot responded something akin to:
It already does one thing better than too many humans: It knows when to STFU.
New dupes coming to DupeGPT (Score:1)
DerpCo today announced that its DupeGPT SaaS Blockchain chatbot would create Non-Fungible dupes for /. even FASTER than the original stories appear!
Quantum computing researchers said: identity theft ransomware grey hat conference something something...
So ChatGPT will use Bing instead of its own data? (Score:2, Insightful)
Well, it's about to provide a lot of more dumb and incorrect answers a lot more often than it does now. I would think Bing Search would benefit from help from ChatGPT instead - given that Bing Search would benefit from help from anybody really...
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And as if I didn't need another reason to avoid ChatGPT -- "Now with Bing!"
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Having responses that included live data would make ChatGPT a potential Google replacement. I'd imagine that ChatGPT will test the results before rolling anything out.They are not going to trash their business just to give Bing some market share.
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That's already what Bing Chat is now, as of a few weeks ago. And it is very much a potential google replacement.
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Interesting, I just tried it. I had to click through several prompts to do so, though, and was presented with a messy, cluttered interface. Google will soon catch up - Bing needs to up their game fast.
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Or more simply:
"A Bing is what a search query is perpetually on the wrong site of" - 0gd3n N4sh.
eating its own tail (Score:2)
So Bing is running on chatGPT which will be running on Bing. neat!
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Is it like you get the internet to explode by googling google?
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kinda, but not.
When I google google, google doesn't use my google results.
"default search experience" (Score:2)
I've learned that if someone feels the urge to call something an "experience", it rarely is a good one.