Canadian Phone Company Selling Porn

westcoaster004 writes "Telus, Canada's second-largest telecommunications carrier has started selling pornography to its cellular subscribers. The service allows subscribers with mobile browsers to purchase both photographic and video adult-oriented content from Telus, at an average of CD$4 per download. Telus decided to introduce the service after noticing that there existed a certain 'segment of the population that is interested in that content' from review of the mobile Web browsing habits of their subscribers 'on an aggregate level.' They are the first telecommunications company in Canada to offer such content. A Telus spokesman said: 'We're fairly certain that if our competitors in Canada haven't launched it, they will soon. Same in the US.'"

Interesting

[JoshJ]

How big is Canada's bloc of religious wackos who think anything sexual is so horrible it needs to be banned? I'm hoping it's significantly smaller than it is in the US so that this excellent example of free speech will hold up as something for America to follow.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Porn is for pigs. This is a reason the Islam nuts want to kill the western people. Civilsation is in reverse and you sound cutting edge.

Re:Interesting

[Anonymous Coward]

Defy radical Islamism by continuing to watch porn, North America. Or else the terrorists will have won.

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[StrangeCargoFromKeyL]

Porn is for pigs.

I smell Canadian Bacon....

(apologies, first /. post ever...)

Re:Interesting

[king-manic]

How big is Canada's bloc of religious wackos who think anything sexual is so horrible it needs to be banned? I'm hoping it's significantly smaller than it is in the US so that this excellent example of free speech will hold up as something for America to follow.

I live in the middle of the largest bloc of "wackos", work for the company in question. The wackos are mostly harmless and get pummelled into submission by the minorities and liberal press. Our "conservative wackos" would problably pass as "democrats" in the states.

Re:Interesting

[Dorceon]

In Canada, violence is harmful and sex not so much! It's backwards land!

Re:

[Anonymous Coward]

Sanctimonious blowhards like Michael Coren, Charles McVety, and Janet Epp Buckingham and her League of Decency might be outraged. *shrug*, too bad.

I'm not sure why people would suddenly get outraged over Telus when telecom companies like Rogers, Bell, etc. have been carrying pay-per-view pr0n channels for a few years now, and probably getting a cut of the money too. A quick scan of my Rogers digital box shows such titles as 'Natural Born Boobs 3' and 'The Anal Express' available on PPV.

No, what's outrageo

In other news, automobile accidents on rise

[goombah99]

Forget the religious wackos. Now instead of one handed cell phone using drivers were going to have people diving with their knees while they use the other hand to choke their chicken.

Re:Interesting

[kripkenstein]

How big is Canada's bloc of religious wackos who think anything sexual is so horrible it needs to be banned?

1. Don't equate pornography with sex. It isn't the same. You can be pro-sex but not pro-pornography.

2. That said, I would say that 95% of violently anti-pornography people are, at some level, anti-sex.

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[__aaclcg7560]

Simple. If you're viewing pornographic material in a public area and people call the cops, you can be busted for indecent exposure. Do it within distance of a school, get busted as a child molester. Remember, not all "wackos" are fundamentalist fruitcakes. Some are concerned citizen who don't want their neighborhoods turned into a red light district.

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[montyzooooma]

"That is why Britain (a mostly agnostic and atheist country) seems to have more of them per capita than the US"

That would explain why our free to air TV is so bland and safe and not at all full of swearing and nudity. Oh wait a minute....

But seriously, aside from the Jerry Springer Opera fiasco which was an extremely organised campaign, we don't have anything like the Mary Whitehouse movement given any mainstream credibility. And the religious movements that there are react to perceived threats to their

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[exp(pi*sqrt(163))]

In case you didn't notice this is one party selling porn to another adult party. Which is still legal in the states.

Yes, but if AT&T, say, started selling porn this way, then significant groups who have dealings with AT&T would pull out of other deals refusing to deal with such a company. So even though someone may want to buy porn from AT&T, and AT&T may want to sell it, other parties who deal with AT&T get to veto it. At each stage, all of the parties appear free to choose which contr

Re:Interesting Paranoia

[exp(pi*sqrt(163))]

What prudishness exactly are you referring to?

The one that results in a nationwide furore over the accidental revelation of a nipple during a live TV performance. The one that causes a bare ass to be blurred out when shown on an innocent movie like The Full Monty. The one where you can't use a nude female body to sell a product used in the shower. I'm probably referring to the US you don't realise exists until you step outside its borders for a few minutes to contrast and compare. It's also the culture where people care more about the sexual infidelity of the president than the sacrifice of thousands of lives for a war started under false pretenses.

Re:free speech? kiss it goodbye.

[Arivia]

I applaud you for having no idea how the Canadian telecommunications field works. From a Canadian perspective, the idea of porn is a minor issue, and the media issue is a non-issue. It's a completely different game up here, bucko.

Quiz question:

[PopeRatzo]

Why are Canadian politics like Belgian baseball?

Kids

[Mark_MF-WN]

Your kids can already watch porn on their cellphones (as I found out in class a few weeks ago). All Telus is doing is offering to sell pornography. The free stuff was already available. So, for that matter, were commercial porn sites, for kids that have a credit card.

The thing is, if you're too goddam fucking stupid to NOT activate the adult-content service when you sign up for your child's cell phone contract, you deserve whatever you get. Granted, most people are indeed too stupid to even read their

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[Mark_MF-WN]

What makes you think that Americans don't want their business minded? We're talking about a very insecure, frightened people here. A people without even the basic comforts of modern living, like profanity and explicit sex on broadcast television. Having other people mind their business makes Americans feel safe, loved, and protected.

Freedom was a nice idea, but most people prefer to live in a cage. The cage has nice, well-delineated boundaries (the walls of the cage), you know your place (inside the c

Blame Canada jokes

[RelliK]

in 3...2...1...

wait, I got one

[RelliK]

Canada. The land of the beaver [roots.com].

Unfortunate phrasing in TFA

[patio11]

"They can keep it in their pocket."

Re:Unfortunate phrasing in TFA

[chris_mahan]

I think it was more tongue-in-cheek.

\me ducks.

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[arivanov]

Err...

You are applying the wrong perspective. We are talking about a Canadian telecommunication company here, not the users. They have a long history here as a country. After all another Canadian company already got every single exec and 90% of the gadget freaks armed with a vibrator in their crotch area which they can after that twiddle with two thumbs to extract extra satisfaction from.

So adding some visuals to the already existing executive services is very logical.

Nothing new and surprising here, move a

Selling porn?

[GMontag]

I still can not figure out why anybody buys porn when so much of it is still free, as in beer as it were.

Guessing it might be harder to get free on one's phone as I have not tried to get it at all on mine, but still.

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[irc.goatse.cx troll]

Paying for quality, I guess. Not that I'd pay, but most of what I get is torrents of questionable legality.
It also depends on what you want. If you had a really specific fetish and there was a site for it, I could see paying for it rather than having to settle for whats mainstream.

Not to mention the crowd that just doesnt know any better.

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[lachlan76]

If you had a really specific fetish and there was a site for it, I could see paying for it rather than having to settle for whats mainstream

That's true. Plenty of videos of nurses on the trackers, most of which have a senior nurse come in. But how often easy is it to find a video of Senior Administrative Nurses?

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[neoform]

You wouldn't be able to get it for free if some people didn't pay for it.

Also, this new cell phone deal is pretty sweet, not I can download porn on the bus!

understatement

[scenestar]

Telus decided to introduce the service after noticing that there existed a certain 'segment of the population that is interested in that content'

You mean 98.7 percent of the entire adult population.

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[rucs_hack]

At least they didn't say they paid for a survey...

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[metlin]

You mean 98.7 percent of the entire adult population.

Male adult population - most women I know do not particularly care for porn. Stories, on the other hand. Oh yeah, boobies for men and smut for women.

Rip-off

[Whiney Mac Fanboy]

mobile browsers to purchase both photographic and video adult-oriented content from Telus, at an average of CD$4 per download.

Goddamn! $4 for images & videos... I guess Canadian Telcos are as fond of screwing their customers as the US's.

Well...

[Frosty Piss]

I guess Canadian Telcos are as fond of screwing their customers...

It is porn...

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[B3ryllium]

As a Telus Mobility customer, and formerly a Telus DSL customer, I can say that they are possibly MORE fond of customer rapeage than US providers.

In fact, while they provide smartPhone services, they don't even offer a plan with unlimited data! Crazy.

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[Virak]

You'd need a few more zeroes for that.

$4 CAD = about -$0.02 USD and a punch in the face.

Re:Rip-off

[nmb3000]

$4 Canadian is like, what? a dime?

Ah, poor Canada. For those confused about America's northern neighbor here are some comparisons:

America: A country with four seasons: spring, summer, fall, winter.
Canada: A country with two seasons: cold and not-as-cold (but still pretty cold).

America: Has the most powerful military machine on the planet.
Canada: Has two jeeps and one helicopter, currently waiting on parts.

America: Finds it difficult to apologize, especially to China.
Canada: Apologizes as a form of introduction.

And the one that reminded me of all this:

American: Wouldn't bend over to pick up a Canadian quarter.
Canadian: Wouldn't do it either.

I kid, I kid. (source [birchlake.us])

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[RealGrouchy]

Canada: A country with two seasons: cold and not-as-cold (but still pretty cold).

Cute, but here in Ottawa, the two seasons are Winter and Construction.

- RG>

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[karmatic]

Better than Phoenix - as it never gets really cold (although there was a little snow around a week ago, go figure), it's always construction season.

When we first moved here, my mother told my father "I'll love you till construction finishes at Sky Harbor (the airport)". 14 years later, construction is still going strong. She grew up here, and it was going strong then, too.

Such a dirty word...

[Frosty Piss]

"Pornography" is such a dirty word... Let's call it what it is, erotica.

Re:Such a dirty word...

[__aaclcg7560]

I think a lot of American politicians would have trouble spelling that word. That's why they call it smut. Only four letters and it rhymes with Smurf (i.e., the cartoon show with one girl and so many guys).

Coming soon to U.S.? Ha!

[phillymjs]

'We're fairly certain that if our competitors in Canada haven't launched it, they will soon. Same in the US.'

Yeah, right, buddy. Maybe the population as a whole is a little more liberal up there in America Junior, but if AT&T, Verizon or any other U.S. cell provider even floats that idea in a meeting, the Bible-thumpers will start up the boycotts and letter-writing campaigns and raise all kinds of hell to make sure it never comes to fruition.

~Philly

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[c6gunner]

Yeah, right, buddy. Maybe the population as a whole is a little more liberal up there in America Junior, but if AT&T, Verizon or any other U.S. cell provider even floats that idea in a meeting, the Bible-thumpers will start up the boycotts and letter-writing campaigns and raise all kinds of hell to make sure it never comes to fruition.

Yep. After all, those dang bible-thumpin' hillbillies did such an efficient job of banning pornographic books, magazines, phone-sex lines, "adult shops", VHS, DVD's, Cab

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[Blkdeath]

The safeguards in place to keep bill prices low aren't enough as it is (phone companies have cheated enough parents of their money when their children are irresponsible with overage charges).

Here's a novel idea for those parents; take the cell phone away from the child(ren) and make them work to pay off the bill.

As an added bonus, the spoiled brats might gain a sense of responsibility and perhaps a bit of work ethic out of the deal. Then they might appreciate why 1000 primetime minutes is a big deal.

Telus

[MarkRose]

Telus is actually a fairly progressive company. They even started using VOIP for long distance back in 2002 [nortel.com]. Home Internet service is quite reliable (they don't even shape bittorrent traffic, that I'm aware of), and they're often upgrading ADSL service at no extra charge (though I splurged for a 6.0/1.0 connection at $45/mn). They also stand up for their customers, refusing to give out customer details without a subpoena, etc. The Mobility division (cell phones, etc) is also quite competitive, though they do rape you with long distance charges on cellphones, but no one has the same coverage they do. Honestly, this latest move doesn't surprise me too much (though I was surprised when it first showed up on my cell's browsing homepage).

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[Anonymous Coward]

Telus is anything but progressive.

They charge a $5 per month 'long distance admin fee' on your telephone service. It is just a money grab. If you opt out of their expensive long distance service, then your internet charges go up by...you guessed it...$5 per month.

My internet service will cost over $40 per month for the 1.5/.5 connection when my "price protection plan" ends. I'm locked into their crappy service and they said it will cost me $240 if I choose to bail out early.

Their webmail uses unencrypted we

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[RealGrouchy]

Telus is anything but progressive.

They charge a $5 per month 'long distance admin fee' on your telephone service....My internet service will cost over $40 per month ... and they said it will cost me $240 if I choose to bail out early.

How is that not progressive? They're just ahead of the inflation curve!

- RG>

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[nacturation]

They charge a $5 per month 'long distance admin fee' on your telephone service. It is just a money grab. If you opt out of their expensive long distance service, then your internet charges go up by...you guessed it...$5 per month.

My internet service will cost over $40 per month for the 1.5/.5 connection when my "price protection plan" ends. I'm locked into their crappy service and they said it will cost me $240 if I choose to bail out early.

Sounds like you made some poor decisions regarding your ISP. Blame yourself.

Their webmail uses unencrypted web pages, so you can't use it from wireless hot-spots. Or pretty much anywhere you don't trust the intermediate ISP(s). It probably isn't safe to use anywhere but from home, so what's the point?

It's rather bizarre that you use your ISP's email -- what if you have to change your ISP? Go with a GMail account; it's free, ISP neutral, and allows you to use SSL for everything. Plus, GMail gives you way more storage and likely better spam filtering. Or spend a few bucks and get your own domain name and choose a provider that meets your requirements.

It sounds like your bitterness towards Telus is all due to your own poor ch

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[McDutchie]

It's rather bizarre that you use your ISP's email -- what if you have to change your ISP? Go with a GMail account; it's free, ISP neutral,

You only get that so-called "free" Gmail account in exchange for your privacy. I'd trust almost any ISP with my important data before I'd trust Google. And the idea that it's provider-independent is laughable; you're making yourself dependent on an advertising megacorporation as your email provider, and they don't even have any obligation to provide the service to you;

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[nacturation]

No, it sounds like his bitterness towards Telus is due to their "crappy service". He says as much in plain English using the words "crappy service". Sheesh, didn't you read his post?

Caveat emptor would have fixed the majority of the issues that poster was experiencing and we would have read a different post that simply said "Yeah, Telus service is crappy and I moved on long ago" without all the irrelevant details about how he locked himself into using them, paying $5/month extra, etc.

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[Jesus_666]

Their webmail uses unencrypted web pages, so you can't use it from wireless hot-spots. Or pretty much anywhere you don't trust the intermediate ISP(s). It probably isn't safe to use anywhere but from home, so what's the point?

Then why use it? I have no idea whether T-Online offers mail and I don't care - with the freemailers trying to outdo each other in terms of features and with SSL/TLS-secured POP3/SMTP/IMAP servers being the standard (as well as HTTPS-secured webmail interfaces) there's no real reason

Re:Telus

[ceoyoyo]

If only they didn't have to be frequently censured by the CRTC for abysmal customer service, commonly lie to their customers when they do have problems with their services, and have so many problems with their bureaucracy that it takes them a month to actually switch DSL service to a new account.

Re:Telus

[quantaman]

They also blocked access [www.cbc.ca] to one of their unions websites during a strike.

What will happen

[Anonymous Coward]

when Canadians and others with porn on their mobilephones, beknownstly or unbekonwnstly illegal in the US arrive in the US and get deatained for it? It all sounds so salacious. what is an agent thinks the "performers" or "models" are not of age (even if there were) how'd you prove it quickly? I see lots of inconveneince. Leave your porn home....

Anyway, what kind of mentality do thse people have needing porn on their phones.. Can't they wait till they get back home (or office at worst).

Talk about peopl

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[Jesus_666]

The attitude is "it's technically possible to put it on a mobile to I will pay for being able to do so". Some people would buy anything if it's for the mobile, even if that means they have to get a $5/mo subscription.

Oh great

[Stephen Tennant]

As if driving and talking on the phone wasn't dangerous enough. How will I hold the steering wheel?

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[grimJester]

There's a reason it vibrates.

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[metlin]

Well, look at the bright side.

At least, you have a use for the cup holder now.

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[ignavus]

"As if driving and talking on the phone wasn't dangerous enough. How will I hold the steering wheel?"

With one hand.

porn can subsidise non-porn!

[romit_icarus]

Porn is a high margin business, and as long as there are adequate safeguards and above the law, it's ethical.

The moralists may object, but when they see how common phone services like voice, data are cheaper because of the porn revenue stream, they should come on the telco's side.

Of course it will help if the telecom peddles the porn under a different brand name...

Desperate move

[roman_mir]

This is a desperate move by Telus to try and retain some of the customers who are going to be leaving to Rogers / Bell Mobility / Whoever once March comes around and the government regulation mandating that the telcos allow customers switch from telco to telco while keeping their phone number comes into effect.

I have been with Telus for a long time and I'll tell you that their phone suck (they don't allow using phones with removable SIM cards, the coverage sucks (well for me it is always bad, I live in Toro

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[Blkdeath]

I have been with Telus for a long time and I'll tell you that their phone suck (they don't allow using phones with removable SIM cards, the coverage sucks (well for me it is always bad, I live in Toronto,) the prices are high, there is no reasonable way to use Telus while traveling in Europe.

I can't argue about using the phones in Europe, but you're in the same boat with Bell there; they both use CDMA. Moving right along; I live in the GTA myself (east of the city in Durham) and work in both Scarborough

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[ceoyoyo]

The others are just as bad. Rogers seemed unable to send me a bill for the longest time, and then decided to charge me $4 for each one. At least I can use a standard GSM phone with them though, so I can always threaten to leave... to Fido, who they own now.

I was impressed with Bell -- they don't do the "system access fee" scam at least.

And they call it...

[ruiner13]

...Phone-a-bone. Smut Message System? Brings new meaning to reaching out and touching someone.

At Last! Scientific Proof!

[BillGatesLoveChild]

> mobile browsers to purchase both photographic and video adult-oriented
> content from Telus, at an average of CD$4 per download.

which only goes to prove, using a cellular phone really does make you stupid.

Best part? Their tag line:

[ArcSecond]

"The future is friendly"

HELL YES, IT'S FRIENDLY!... Before they just squeezed our nuts. Now they are rubbing our thigh and whispering dirty things in our ear.

Funny, but I don't remember that being in the "futuristic" commercials envisioning how we would be using mobile technology. I am fairly certain I don't remember any money shots, at least.

Oh, and the obligatory...

[ArcSecond]

Anyone made a "hands free" joke yet?

So...

[Joel from Sydney]

Anybody got a torrent link?

Examine this logically

[Enrique1218]

First, privacy is the first issue. I don't quite see people viewing porn on the bus, the steps of their job, on the street, or even in their cars. For people that are not unstable, I don't see anyone needing to view this material or participating in related activities in a public location. That reduces people down to their home or some other private venue. Anyone, who owns a computer, can get a significant amount freely through the internet. So, I don't see porn on the cell phone computer competing with the

People are not logical

[arcite]

There is your answer. I will buy an iPhone not because it is logical, but because I want to be cool. Similarly, I will put porn on it because I'm a horny bastard. :)

Telus isn't the first

[Stephen Samuel]

On Fido, I went through their picture download thingie with the $50 that I got with a new cell phone (to replace a dead one).... They also sell (soft) porn...

80s flashback

[edwardpickman]

ET phone porn.

and this is remarkable...

[oohshiny]

why?

Hong Kong is way ahead here.

[Animats]

In Hong Kong, there are virtual girlfriends [v-girl.com] for cell phones.

This thing is really insidious. The girls are high-maintenance. You have to text them frequently and buy them stuff.

Can US users get some?

[popo]

..er. I mean hypothetically.

Brain melt

[Quiet_Desperation]

Telus decided to introduce the service after noticing that there existed a certain 'segment of the population that is interested in that content' from review of the mobile Web browsing habits of their subscribers 'on an aggregate level.'

Marketing-speak. The gray goo of verbal communication.

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[hasbeard]

Well, except for the fact that it demeans women (and men for that matter), cheapens and turns a God-given gift into a commodity, reduces human beings from being to people to be loved and honored to being objects and tools for one's one self-gratification-- not much I guess.

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[king-manic]

Well, except for the fact that it demeans women (and men for that matter), cheapens and turns a God-given gift into a commodity, reduces human beings from being to people to be loved and honored to being objects and tools for one's one self-gratification-- not much I guess.

Are you talking about pornography or labor. I get confused about the difference....

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[JebusIsLord]

I expect the grandparent is the sort of person who gets sex and demeaning physical labour mixed up quite often.

Re:What really is wrong with porn?

[Virak]

Well, except for the fact that it demeans women (and men for that matter),

This argument has always confused me. If people are willing to be in porn, even if it 'demeans' them, then why shouldn't they be allowed to? They're adults, and they're only 'harming' themselves, if it could even be called that. It just doesn't make sense, unless you mean that it demeans *everyone*, in which case it makes even *less* sense in other ways.

cheapens and turns a God-given gift into a commodity,

If you can find significant evidence of a loving god, of the kind whose gifts would be worthy respecting, then maybe you'd have a point.

reduces human beings from being to people to be loved and honored to being objects and tools for one's one self-gratification

See above. If you mean human beings that are in porn, it's their choice, and if you mean all humans, I'd like to see you explain how that works.

Re:What really is wrong with porn?

[hasbeard]

Actually, I didn't say they shouldn't be allowed to. The OP asked a question, and I answered it. He asked what is wrong with pornography and I replied with the statements you have quoted about people demeaning themselves. I didn't make any statements about what people should be allowed or not allowed to do. The fact that people make a choice to participate in a given behavior doesn't lessen the harm it does to them.

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[Virak]

Okay, then I'm still confused as to how exactly it demeans them.

And don't bring religion or morals into this without proof that your choice of such is correct.

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[anagama]

When GP says "porn is demeaning", it only means that it is demeaning in GP's eyes. Of course, wearing clothes from Sears would demean a person in certain other people's eyes. Simply put, GP is prejudiced against people who have sex on film. Fact is, porn is demeaning only in the sense that certain people with a "holier-than-though" hangup look down on people who are in it.

As a side note, porn could be actually demeaning if someone was forced to perform, but that is really a completely different issue

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[king-manic]

Actually, I didn't say they shouldn't be allowed to. The OP asked a question, and I answered it. He asked what is wrong with pornography and I replied with the statements you have quoted about people demeaning themselves. I didn't make any statements about what people should be allowed or not allowed to do. The fact that people make a choice to participate in a given behavior doesn't lessen the harm it does to them.

I used to work on the support side of the adult industry. Working as a tech, webmaster and vi

Nothing.

[Virak]

And most people bring up 'morals' because most people are idiots and are incapable of seeing the world from someone else's view, and also incapable of seeing the inherent subjectivity of morality.

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[RuBLed]

"Porn to me, replicates what happens in real life...in the real world."

Are you sure? IMHO, it's equivalent to saying that CSI / TV-Drama's replicates what happens in real life in the real world, but in a more exagerrated way.. And by exagerrated, you would know what I mean. O wait,.. this is slashdot.....

IMHO, I find these morals good in a sense that I would prefer living in area where such good morals are upheld than in one where it isn't. It brings a sense of protection for me, my family, etc...

Re:What really is wrong with porn?

[king-manic]

Are you sure? IMHO, it's equivalent to saying that CSI / TV-Drama's replicates what happens in real life in the real world, but in a more exagerrated way.. And by exagerrated, you would know what I mean. O wait,.. this is slashdot.....

IMHO, I find these morals good in a sense that I would prefer living in area where such good morals are upheld than in one where it isn't. It brings a sense of protection for me, my family, etc

I miss the point of the first sentence. CSI is to crime investigation as Porn is to sex. Both are fake replicas that stress quick umm.. resolution over the truth behind normal situations.

IMHO, areas of strict morality only hide the vices better. Strict morality does not generally make you a better person. For each giving and self sacraficing "moral" person there is a dozen hippocritical, hateful "moral" person. Ditto for the Immoral.

Re:What really is wrong with porn?

[Beryllium Sphere(tm)]

>Porn to me, replicates what happens in real life...in the real world.

How often have you seen someone in a porn film use a condom or say "I love you"?

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[king-manic]

How often have you seen someone in a porn film use a condom or say "I love you"?

About as often as a slashdoter has used a condom and heard "i love you"?

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[tsa]

Very good point. Why is porn so much more frowned on than (extreme) violence?

Re:What really is wrong with porn?

[grimJester]

Porn to me, replicates what happens in real life..

Speak for yourself :(

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[Enrique1218]

Try having sex with a real woman. It like mainstream movies and television in that it is a little different than real life. Everything from the seduction to foreplay to the act is different. Moreover, the balancing of porn and the woman in your life. As women age, they develop imperfections over time including porn stars. But the camera hides alot not to mention new young women are brought in everyday. You might find yourself unfairly comparing your woman to fantasy that porn provides. In addition, porn add

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[Bronster]

not to mention new young women are brought in everyday

See, there's your problem.

(now, to make that work in real life...)

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[nido]

Porn to me, replicates what happens in real life...in my own private imaginary world.

There, fixed that for you.

I finally 'got it' a month ago, quit the porn and faping cold, and two days later met 'Ms. Right' via teh craigslist [craigslist.org]. Had to wait two weeks for her to get back to town (lots of emails shortened the usual courtship rituals), and I must say that the real thing is much better than any porn I've ever 'consumed'.

For me, there's no going back - I never really liked porn (other than for how it helped me

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[Virak]

They came out with those a while ago, I think they're called 'girlfriends'. I can't seem to find any, though, so I suspect it might've just been a joke.

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[Scarletdown]

They came out with those a while ago, I think they're called 'girlfriends'. I can't seem to find any, though, so I suspect it might've just been a joke.

Nah. It wasn't a joke. That idea simply got nixed due to an excessive amount of fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

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[twitter]

Any questions?

Does it come with a vibrator?

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[anagama]

Like activating the vibe ring?

The same...

[C10H14N2]

...as has applied to centuries of similar material: none. Hormonal, pubescent adolescents will seek out and obtain porn and actual sex, regardless and often in direct proportion to your attempts to prevent them from doing so. Welcome to humanity.

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[rrohbeck]

With the lack of parental control over minors and their cell phones, what precautions will be taken to stop the under-age abusing this system?

A cell phone's owner is registered via the contract so it will be trivial compared to an ordinary network connection.
That said, I'm pretty sure today's kiddies know more about circumventing their schools' and parent's blocks than I ever had a need to know. So, official pr0n channels won't make the slightest difference in this regard.

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[RollingThunder]

Good grief, you actually got the capitalization right! ;)

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[Bronster]

a situation where little Johnny purchases some erotica from their provider, via Dad's phone, is one that has many a Telco exec waking up at night, covered in sweat.

Now see, they should be reporting themselves to the police immediately. Paedophiles. They should be waking up at night covered in sweat for good old-fashioned boobies like their counterparts in Canada. Much healthier.