Amazon Japan Offers Barcode Purchases via Camera Phone 211
Zode writes "Jesse James Garrett reports
that Amazon Mobile Japan customers can purchase a item with their camera phones. "Snap a photo of a product bar code using your cell phone, and Amazon Japan will give you a price check," according to Garrett, relaying from this article in Ketai Watch (Wireless Watch).
Here's the English translation from Babelfish."
Available in America... (Score:3, Interesting)
also 4th post.
Re:Available in America... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Available in America... (Score:3, Funny)
th = 2726912.25
4th = 10907649
10907649th = a really big number.
So in fact he was right. I wonder why so many people claim to have the 2726912.25 post, nothing special about it.
Re:Available in America... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Available in America... (Score:2, Funny)
Purchase from ADs ? (Score:5, Informative)
Bar codes are kinda hard to get right on a mobile phone camera (but I think high end only).
This is the beginning of a new cross-shopping trend. Enter a shop, look for a product , enter in amazon , measure urgency vs economy , pick it up or order
I already saw a company in India offer an IR universal remote control for their phones (Nokia 3220 IIRC) . Was a trial version for 15 days after which it asks whether you want to buy the app. You pay for it through your mobile too and the bill comes down to you as part of your monthly phone bill.
M-commerce , eh ?
Re:Purchase from ADs ? (Score:3, Interesting)
This is the next step from applications that exist today. For example, J2ME-enabled phones can run Piranha Pricecheck [mpowers.net]. I even wrote up a simple book price check application [ericgiguere.com] that I was going to use for an article but never went too far with it.
This stuff is quite easy to do with Amazon's web services [amazon.com]. On a mobile phone, oddly enough, the ISBN [ericgiguere.com] is also really easy to enter from the keypad, since it's all digits except for the trailing X that sometimes occurs (modulo 11 check digit) and you can infer that.
E
Re:Purchase from ADs ? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Purchase from ADs ? (Score:4, Insightful)
must be really behind with phones
Absolutely. The North American market is very different. Competing technologies (CDMA, TDMA, GSM, iDEN) mean there is less choice in terms of handsets, plus they're locked for the most part to the carrier that sells them. Costs are often more than landlines. You pay to make AND receive calls. Coverage can be spotty due to geographic extent. Analog coverage is still a factor. Lots of different things.
EricRe:Purchase from ADs ? (Score:3, Informative)
That's because landlines are *really cheap* in the US. Qwest provides unlimited, reliable dialtone with unlimited local calls for about $13 around here.
If you actually take the time to compare how much people pay *per minute* on mobile phones in the US, it's actually less than it is in places like Germany or the UK. Compare T-Mobile Germany and T-Mobile USA, for example.
Here's a plan from T-Mobile Germany:
http://www.t-mobile.de/business/relax/1,6243,1053 2 -_,00.ht [t-mobile.de]
Re:Purchase from ADs ? (Score:4, Informative)
Forgot to mention: Steve Punter's Southern Ontario Cell Phone Page [arcx.com] is a great resource for information on the North American cellphone market from the consumer viewpoint. (Well, it's really about the Canadian market, but the same technologies are used in the US.) He has a good explanation of the various technologies [arcx.com] available in the North American market, and links to all the carriers in Canada. I find the coverage maps (like this one [arcx.com] for my area) pretty useful.
At least the BlackBerry [blackberry.com] is designed and built here, so we're not totally behind!
EricBasic info about BlackBerry development [ericgiguere.com]
Re:Purchase from ADs ? (Score:2)
Just out of curiosity - does patent law work the same way in India as it does in the US? I mean, can you patent/enforce such things, and even protect your IP?
(Or I completely misinterpreted your statement and you are talking about patenting it in the US)
Indian patents ... (Score:5, Informative)
Introduction, Preliminary, Inventions not Patentable [patentoffice.nic.in] clearly mentions something about e-Patents .. so that post can be easily forgotten .
India does offer Process Patents but explicitly prevents patenting naturally occurring substances or extracts there of. However you are free to patent your form of culturing or producing an anti-biotic or vaccine. Patent infringement can be enforced in India as is with any other country in the world. Interestingly , Prior art of Foreign origin are valid in India - unlike the USPTO [piercelaw.edu] .
Get an OSS Loving [ciol.com], Nuke Missile Desgning [presidentofindia.nic.in] President for your country too :)
Here's a wacky idea: (Score:3, Funny)
They won't even need a cell phone. Imagine that!
Re:Here's a wacky idea: (Score:2, Insightful)
Not a wacky idea. A stupid idea. (Score:4, Insightful)
Second, if you had to pay someone to manage all of those price tags, you'd have to raise your prices thereby making amazon an even more attractive alternative and losing even more business in the proces.
Third, did you even think about what you were suggesting before you did it?
LK
Re:Not a wacky idea. A stupid idea. (Score:2)
And worst case, you can always ask one of the assistants to help you out.
A much better solution.
Re:Not a wacky idea. A stupid idea. (Score:2)
I don't have time to go find an employee, ask them for a price check, walk to a regiter in the front of the store (which can be a hundred yards or more these days) get the price, and then go back to my shopping. Heaven forbid I should have my 2 year old with me and have to tote her around during this process.
Of the shops which have barcode scanners (and I'd say that's less than 10% of the shops I kn
Re:Here's a wacky idea: (Score:2)
I don't think a random bookstore would want Amazon prizes on their books, and I doubt printing presses would be willing to print Amazon prints with their barcodes, and Amazon prizes and offers change often so printed price would be outdated anyway.
Re:Here's a wacky idea: (Score:2)
Or -- this may cause shopkeepers to enquire the best price at Amazon and provide a competitive pricing, since the former would result in bad business (and a bad reputation).
Re:Here's a wacky idea: (Score:2)
In fact, this very practice is performed by competing stores -- employees of Store A are hired to check the prices at Store B. The catch is to not let employees at Store B catch you checking their prices (usually you need to record the prices s
Re:Here's a wacky idea: (Score:2)
Far Out indeed (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Far Out indeed (Score:2)
"Ah, The Dancer upstairs Decent movie. But I'd really like to see the film the the guerillas were watching. 'Something... of Siege' and so on."
Having access to online reviews would also be helpful. Amazon provides those, although, naturally, if it doesn't carry old Costa-Gavras films, it probably won't be of much use. A cell phone interface to the imdb might be more useful...
Re:Far Out indeed (Score:2)
Even not mentionning the price, I prefer to dig unbiased into Ama
Male information (Score:4, Funny)
Why is Amazon publishing my male information?
Re:Male information (Score:2)
Unfortunately slashdot seems to ignore Japanese characters in comments ...
I think the Fish got confused trying to parse "osusume" which means recommendation, which has an honorific "o-" at the front; the first two syllables "osu" by themselves can be read as a different word, meaning the male (of some sort of animal).
Because written Japanese rarely has divisions between words marked, trying to decipher text written in hiragana can be a challenge for translation software (and for people like me trying to
Re:Male information (Score:2)
To quote: "moreover, it was called reference keyword ranking and the U.S. Amazon's CD sales ranking -- it pushes -- end -- information is also carried"
Here, it looks like "osusume" (recommendation) is also being misinterpreted as "osu" + "sume". Instead of taking "osu" as 'male animal', it interprets it as the verb 'to push', and then it parses "sume" as the imperat
What about the bookstores? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:What about the bookstores? (Score:5, Informative)
Japan does other weird things like splitting books into two halves. I'm not sure what purpose this serves, since usually they're sold together. I guess you could maybe buy the first half and then decide if you want to buy and read the second half or not. Maybe it's easier to hold one small book at a time rather than one large book.
My kanji and vocabulary are so weak that all I can read are manga for kids. Even then, I need a dictionary, and I'm probably picking up all kinds of weird childish or goofy expressions.
Re:What about the bookstores? (Score:2)
Waitress: Hello! Please come in. We have a table for you over here. Can I get you a drink?
Cryptnotic: Pikachu! I choose you!
Re:What about the bookstores? (Score:2)
In the US we have wierd stores like Cosco that put two boxes of cereal and put them in a 3rd box.
OT: Re:What about the bookstores? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:OT: Re:What about the bookstores? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:What about the bookstores? (Score:3, Informative)
Actually, there is a law (something along the lines of protecting cultural identity) that specifically forbids selling new books/magazines for less than the marked price. Amazon.jp would love to discount
Here's a way around that one... (Score:2)
The state of Vermont wanted to outlaw Walmart from opening up
Re:Here's a way around that one... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:What about the bookstores? (Score:4, Informative)
They didn't ban the phones, but came up with a uniquely Japanese compromise.
They got together with the phone maker association and got them to agree that when phones take a picture, they *must* (all phones do it now BTW) make LOUD camera clicking sounds, or play LOUD music that you can hear across the store...
This way the store keeper can hear the sound, come and throw you out...
Re:What about the bookstores? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:What about the bookstores? (Score:2)
Re:What about the bookstores? (Score:2)
That's a good reason for the customers to leave and go to Amazon.co.jp, which doesn't seem concerned in the slightest that customers are loading their site only to read their reviews and comparison shop at other stores. (And I must say, amazon.co.jp is a pretty dang friendly shopping experience, even to foreig
Re:What about the bookstores? (Score:2)
It would really empower the consumber and could be used for a lot of neat tri
Re:What about the bookstores? (Score:2)
I have even formulated the idea that bookstores should just give up on selling books and have people pay a flat fee to hang out, and provide internet terminals where we could
Re:What about the bookstores? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:What about the bookstores? (Score:2)
Re:Cell phone ban - Re:What about the bookstores? (Score:2)
All we need now.. (Score:5, Insightful)
Imagine sending a picture of a barcode to ebay to see if there's an auction for that item running.
Re:All we need now.. (Score:2)
That's all? (Score:2)
Imagine sending a picture of a barcode to ebay to see if there's an auction for that item running.
I tried that but inevitably and quite rapidly my thoughts kept turning to images of naked babes and luxurious priviledge.
Could be my needs are different to yours.
Sorry. I'm just not in data processing mode currently.
This was bound to happen (Score:4, Insightful)
Great for Froogle, Pricewatch + feature request (Score:3, Interesting)
I would like to add a feature request. Could they hook it up to the review sections as well, so that it becomes possible not only to see how much it costs elsewhere, but also if people like it at all. Even nicer would be if it could turn into some augmented shopping list, complete with tips like If you buy this, you will need that etc.
Yah shops are going to love that (Score:2)
Gee, good computer shops already have the problem that people come to them for advice and then go to the crappy cheap shop for their actual purchase. Only to return to the good shop when things go wrong and then be upset that no we don't fix other shops computers for free.
Friend of mine is about to commit murder if he gets one more Dell on the counter with a demand to fix it for free because
Re:Yah shops are going to love that (Score:4, Insightful)
Research in the Netherlands has shown most Dutch people search online for product information, but buy offline if the price difference is not too high, or they want instant gratification etc etc.
Don't forget shipping & handling... (Score:2)
Usually, I do it the other way around though. Check online, then drop by a store if I'm near one. Same basic idea, only then I don't need this service.
Kjella
Re:Don't forget shipping & handling... (Score:2)
You still might like a service like this, when shopping because it could give you extra features, like customer reviews, suggestions etc.
Re:Yah shops are going to love that (Score:2)
Re:Yah shops are going to love that (Score:2)
Does anyone else already do this? (Score:2)
Bezos on TechTV (Score:4, Funny)
Essentially, he explained, you could take a picture of anything from the cover of a book to an action figure, mountain bike, sandbox, stereo reciever, sweatshirt or snow mobile and recieve price comparison from Amazons network of retail sites and "shops."
I remember it distinctly because it was the first time i actually felt that a camera on a cell phone wasn't the most idiotic idea I've ever heard.
This was, of course, BEFORE I discovered that women stick their camera-phones down their pants and take pictures, and ACTUALLY POST THEM ON THE INTERNET!
Hmm.. I wonder if Amazon.nl would give you a price comparison of THAT... hmmm...
Re:Bezos on TechTV (Score:2, Funny)
Finally a translation that's readable (Score:2)
Re:Finally a translation that's readable (Score:2, Funny)
I don't know how the situation is in Japan... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:I don't know how the situation is in Japan... (Score:2)
Re:I don't know how the situation is in Japan... (Score:2)
You can use it on any barcode btw. Soft drinks, books, websites [sn-y.net] etc. Lots of sites with the funky square barcodes encode a URL in them, and the phone will pop it up and ask if you want to open the URL in your phone's browser.
In
Big player (Score:2)
I don't kow however if this would work anywhere outside of Japan. The cultural aspects of payments out there are quit different from those in the western world.
Babelfish (Score:4, Funny)
The Amazon Japan
did the portable edition of online book store "Amazon.co.jp" service
is started from 2001, but
was done attendant upon the efficiency improvement multi-functionality
of carrying. Were added in personal computer edition became purchase
possible. In addition, such as CD sales ranking of search keyword
ranking and American Amazon the male also information is published.
Also navigation and search function of the portable telephone and
can scan the bar-code of the commodity, also the service which with
the same sight the purchase possible commodity it can order directly.
At the same company, when the commodity which order and the friend
of the consumable have likes, when liking to know whether what kind
of related commodity sells in other things, with you say that utilization
when you said is supposed. EZweb, border phone live! Edition, while
looking at the trend of i mode edition, have assumed that it keeps
examining. On the 22nd concert was held inside capital. As for jasper
of Representative President same company,
"those where the commodity is discovered in Amazon with scan search,
become very simple", that appealing the easiness of the same service.
Concerning
portable edition "with respect to the strategy, as the importance
you consider also Mobile", that it does, "function of personal computer
edition even with Mobile steadily probably becomes possible. On the
one hand, keeps constructing also just Mobile feature ", that you
talked the future enthusiasm. As for access to of portable edition
Amazon.co.jp, if with the same
Keitai doesn't mean wireless (Score:3, Informative)
It's BTW pronounced ke-tai.
Re:Keitai doesn't mean wireless (Score:2)
Re:Keitai doesn't mean wireless (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Keitai doesn't mean wireless (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Keitai doesn't mean wireless (Score:2)
I wonder if the Japanese district of Mobile, AL, is called Keitai?
Nice idea (Score:4, Interesting)
I wonder if they patented this...
Re:Nice idea (Score:2)
I'd roughly estimate the CCD and decoder chip to weight something around 2-4 grams.
Some light weight phones you got if that's 25% of the total weight...
Surely there's no other use for the processing power (the other extra electronics) in multimedia phones than viewing the pictures.
Re:Nice idea (Score:2)
Most of the pictures in my PDA are of business cards, sticky notes, handouts, and whiteboards. There's a map of a trail I hiked, captured at the trail-head. Then there are some funny spur-of-the-moment shots, like my wife bouncing on a pogo stick at Toys R
Re:Nice idea (Score:2)
I based the weight-point on the fact that the first phone with cam (T610) from SonyEricsson is, IIRC, about 30 grams heavier than the last one without a cam (T68i).
But well, they're probably trying to make the non-cam parts lighter.
Re:Nice idea (Score:2)
Readable translation (Score:4, Informative)
I said 'readable', I didn't say 'good'... I'm at work. Anyway:
Amazon japan have updated the mobile phone version of the amazon.co.jp shopping site, which they run. The menu and search screens have been completely redone, and for iMode, there's a service starting whereby you can scan a barcode using your phone and look up or buy an item.
The amazon.co.jp online store mobile verison was opened in 2001 but has been remade in the light of the improved power and functionality of mobile phones. The 'home & kitchen' and 'toy & hobby' stores, included in the PC version of the site, are now in the mobile version, and products not in the PC version's 'marketplace' can be bought too. Recommendations appear too, in the form of search keyword rankings and the CD sales rankings from the US version.
The navigation and search functionality of the menu screens has been enhanced too. In each store, bargain corner products, 'campaign' (ie sales promotion) information, and discounted 'red' prices are visible -- as well as product images. In product search, detailed search features are available depending on the type of product, and a search can be done from any screen.
As a new experiment, the iMode-oriented 'Amazon Scan Search' service has been begun. With this, you download a free specialized application, and using the camera in your mobile you can scan the barcodes on items. After scanning, a request is sent to the mobile version of amazon.co.jp, and if the item is one that can be obtained at that site, you can order it. The same company also suggests you use the feature when ordering consumables, or when you want an item like one that your freind has, or when you want to see what related products are for sale. The 'Vodaphone Live!' version of EZWeb is also considering the iMode trend.
A product launch was held on the 22nd. Amazon's representative director, Jasper Chan, emphasized the convenience of the new service, saying 'With Scan Search, discovering Amazon products has become unbelievably easy!' Concerning the remake of the mobile version of the site, he said 'We see mobiles as strategically vital' and describing the enthusiasm with which the matter will be taken forward, he said 'Whatever functionality is available to the PC version will, more and more, be in the mobile version as well. On the other hand, we will also be building functionality specially to suit mobiles'.
The amazon.co.jp mobile version is accessed via iMode from 'Shopping Ticket', via EZWeb from 'Shopping'/'Books/CDs/DVDs', and via Vodaphone Live! from 'Shopping/Ticket'/'Books/CDs/DVDs/Games'.
I wonder (Score:2)
Re:I wonder (Score:2)
Mac people using this already... (Score:3, Interesting)
Barcode recognition have been used awhile in Japan (Score:2, Informative)
You just smack a barcode on the bottom of your ad-flyer (for the latest PS2-game, or whatever) and have people shooting them with their phone-camera and instantly get redirected to the product homepage. Kinda neat and really handy as entering URLs on a phone is a real pain in the ass.
These barcodes also confirm to some sort of standard (dunno the name), so it's easy f
isbn (Score:3, Interesting)
RFID Around the corner (Score:2, Insightful)
Re: (Score:2)
What you did not think of. (Score:2)
Unless you decide to buy a book when you are not at a book store. You might want to buy a book your friend owns, or one you found in the library.
Re: (Score:2)
Re:What you don't know (Score:2)
Big deal (Score:2)
$!/usr/bin/perl
my $searchURL = "http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=%1";
my $browser = "kfmclient openURL";
open( F, "lynx -source 'http://www.upcdatabase.com/item.pl?upc=659556585 9 21'|");
while()
{
if(/Description.+<td>([^<]*)<\/td>/ ) {
$searchURL =~ s/%1/$1;
system("$browser \"$searchURL\"");
}
}
close(F);
Now all you need is a program to turn a UPC picture into a bar code (can probably find one already
Re:Big deal (Score:2)
Why does no one f*cking read anymore???!?!? (Score:2)
"Now all you need is a program to turn a UPC picture into a bar code (can probably find one already) and you're off to the races"
Re:Why does no one f*cking read anymore???!?!? (Score:2)
"Combine this perl with the browser of your choice and you have the same thing."
And yet, it's not the same thing. Your quote just supports that.
It's not an entirely new concept (Score:2)
I've only ever bought one thing from them, but it's just nice to use it to reassure yourself you're not being completely ripped off buying soemthing on the High Street.
Amazon's barcode reading functionality is very nifty I'm
Re:It's not an entirely new concept (Score:2)
Re:QR codes. Is there anything they can't do? (Score:2)
The cameras in Japanese cell phones are usually above 1 Megapixel, so more than enough resolution to resolve bar codes.
Re:QueCat (Score:3, Insightful)
They were trying to do target advertising where you could scan a paper catalog and they would take you to a propreitery website with the information.
This meant that you had to do it from home, and you knew _their_ prices for the catalogs.
(they also had something where you could connect to the TV, if am not mistaken)
Either way, their model failed because they were giving away a piece of hardware away for free.
Re:QueCat (Score:3, Informative)
This meant that you had to do it from home, and you knew _their_ prices for the catalogs.
The whole Digital Convergence thing at its heart was a neat idea. Frankly barcodes have been part of our lives for decades. It was only common sense to actually make software that would take advantage of it.
As far as doing it from home, I'm sure someone wrote a driver
Re:QueCat (Score:2)
And CueCat had some privacy issues, which I forgot to mention - they had issues with losing information etc (they had furtive customer tracking) etc.
Hopefully, Amazon isn't stupid enough to do something like this
Re:QueCat (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Soooo...... (Score:2)