
APC Recalls 2.1 Million UPS Units 264
Controlio writes "Check your cubicles. APC has recalled two of its Back-UPS CS models, the Back-UPS CS 350 and Back-UPS CS 500, in both the 120 volt and 230-volt flavors. The units were sold between November of 2000 and December of 2002. The affected units have the potential to overheat, melting the outer casing and causing a potential fire hazard. Yikes."
APC will remarket the ones returned: (Score:4, Funny)
Unstoppable Fire Supplies.
Re:APC will remarket the ones returned: (Score:5, Funny)
Re:APC will remarket the ones returned (Score:2, Funny)
Re:APC will remarket the ones returned: (Score:2, Funny)
their server's also melting, here's the text (Score:2, Informative)
APC has received eight reports worldwide of units overheating resulting in the melting of the unit's outer casing, six of which occurred in the United States. Three of the reported incidents resulted in minor property damage. No injuries have been reported.
The recall is limited to two specific models in APC's Back-UPS CS product line - the Back-UPS CS 350 and the Back-UPS CS 500, in both 120-volt and 230-volt models. The affected units were manufactured between November 2000 and December 2002. The units were sold primarily through computer and electrical distribution, catalog and retail outlets worldwide.
Consumers with affected units can identify them by the model markings on the front of the unit and by the serial numbers located on the bottom of the unit. Only units with serial numbers having the first six characters in the following ranges are affected:
AB0048 through AB0251
BB0104 through BB0251
JB0125 through JB0251
Any units with an "R" at the end of the serial number are not part of the recall.
APC recommends that the user immediately remove the UPS unit from service by turning off all connected equipment, turning the UPS unit off, and then unplugging the unit from the electrical outlet.
To learn more about the recall action and the process for replacing the affected units, users should visit www.apc.com or call 866 APC-RELY (866 272-7359).
APC has been working closely with the Consumer Product Safety Commission and other appropriate parties in this action, which does not affect any other APC devices.
"We remain highly confident in the overall safety and reliability of all of our products, and have been working diligently to ensure that this action results in a minimum inconvenience to our customers and channel partners," said Rodger B. Dowdell, Jr., APC president and CEO.
Re:their server's also melting, here's the text (Score:2)
1. Buy faulty UPS unit.
2. Start fire under UPS.
3. Burn whole house/office down.
4. ???
5: Sue. PROFIT!!!
Nooooo!!! (Score:5, Funny)
ooooohhhhhh UPS "UNITS"!, my battery backup. I won't miss that at all, thank god i can keep my truck.
Re:Nooooo!!! (Score:2, Funny)
Kittens make the day go faster [b3ta.com]
UPS (Score:4, Funny)
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Re:UPS (Score:2, Funny)
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APC (Score:2)
Plastic
Conflagration
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Re:UPS (Score:2)
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Uninterruptible Power Supply? (Score:4, Funny)
"Uninterruptible," my ass!
Re:Uninterruptible Power Supply? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Uninterruptible Power Supply? (Score:2)
Eternal Vigilance is the price of IT.
Re:Uninterruptible Power Supply? (Score:4, Funny)
Let me guess, all of your former co-workers now refer to that company as their "previous job" . . .
Re:Uninterruptible Power Supply? (Score:2)
Re:Uninterruptible Power Supply? (Score:2)
'U'PS (Score:2)
Jason
ProfQuotes [profquotes.com]
Uh oh (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Uh oh (Score:2)
Melted off of what? Your keyboard?
My Mother-In-Law (Score:2, Funny)
I'm keeping mine. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I'm keeping mine. (Score:2, Funny)
Miss Titties, maybe, YEAH. Shrump, nooo!
Just as well ... (Score:2)
Pop goes the power supply. (Score:3, Insightful)
It turns out it was the powersupply exploding. The plastic top blew off hard enough to make a mark in the ceiling. Examaning the supply, it looks like it was a tiny chip in the adapter. Part of it was not melted so much as cauliflower looking like a silicon STD. Perhaps they were made by Innova [yahoo.com]?
This was only my second experience of something frying in all my years of computing but I do wonder what the actual rates of this type of failures.
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Re:Pop goes the power supply. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Pop goes the power supply. (Score:2)
My brother had (notice the correct use of the past tense) a hamster who got out of his cage and some how ended up inside of his HP LaserJet 4xx (which ever one was the really big network model) and when he went to print a page it started making funny noises and the page only came half way out of the printer streaked with red splotches... Ewwwww.
no explosions, but.. (Score:2)
I found myself the proud owner of one dead Fortron Source 550W power supply (almost brand new, only 250W of load on it when it burned out). I know that company makes tons of PS units, and as far as I know, they are generally considered OK hardware... my luck to get the bad one.
I typically only buy known, good, brand-name stuff, and my thinking at the time was that an oversized power supply would last longer under the same load conditions... Yeah, well... maybe not.
I don't own one of those defective UPS's; out of sheer dumb luck I dodged that bullet and bought a Belkin unit instead (the guts of it could be APC for all I know). Heh... maybe I'd better go look.
Re:no explosions, but.. (Score:2)
I'm sorry, but you obviously don't belong on Slashdot. Get outta here.
What? Don't want to leave? Ok, I'll tell you the proper Slashdot response:
1. Assume that since you had a bad unit, all the units the company produces must be shit.
2. Set up a web page documenting just how bad their products are with your experience as the only prrof. Be sure to post an email address so other users can send you their anecdotal stories of mishaps with the product and include these on your web site as proof that the company produces shit.
3. Constantly search the newsgroups, Amazon and other such product reviews, and slash dot for the mention of the company that made your product.
4. Once found, proceed to scream about what shitty products the company makes and point people to your site as proof of just how many people are experiencing problems.
5. NEVER acknowledge that all companies, regarless of reputation, produce the occasional defective product.
Re:no explosions, but.. (Score:2)
APC doesn't support open source (Score:4, Interesting)
Best Power does... (Score:3, Informative)
Their products are also bundled with power management software that works just peachily on a Linux box.
We've had a Patriot Pro in place on our production machine for a year or so now, absolutely no complaints.
Re:Best Power does... (Score:2, Informative)
Apparently nobody noticed though, since he didn't get paged!
WAY TO BE COMPLETELY WRONG!!!!! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:WAY TO BE COMPLETELY WRONG!!!!! (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:APC doesn't support open source (Score:2)
Thermal overload?!? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Thermal overload?!? (Score:2)
or they might have just situated it badly.
i dunno.. i'm still a bit woozy form tasting black adder raw cask 11y(islay) last night...
What do these things look like? (Score:2)
Answered my own question (Score:2)
http://www.apcc.com/products/family/index.cfm?i
(PS, if you hate it when a link is not a link, get phoenix and the text link extension. Id give you the link but yea...)
Can't miss 'em.... (Score:3, Funny)
jokes aside...me thinks you should visit the manuf. website, and learn how to read S/N/s
What if I don't want to return it? (Score:5, Funny)
Crap (Score:2)
Time to by stock in shipping companies (Score:3, Insightful)
Yikes...
maybe more like three directions (Score:2)
And these things are heavy! Like 15 or 20 kilos. The freight costs are no joke.
Then there is the bill for the corrective marketing....then the income drop due to bad public image...then the personal injury lawsuits...
Remember, kids...when the marketing guy wants you to scalp R & D and just get the darn thing out the door...think about this incident and tell the genius to walk a pier.
Re:maybe more like three directions (Score:2)
The instructions you get when registering your recalled unit for replacement tell you to remove the battery to use it in the replacement unit.
Re:Time to by stock in shipping companies (Score:2)
Been there, done that, with an APC UPS. (Score:2)
Most of them have worked admirably for years.
One, however, didn't. When looking for the cause of strange computer behavior, I found the UPS half-melted, just as the article describes. I don't recall the model offhand; it had a form factor similar to the VS line, but was pitched as an "office" UPS.
Needless to say, I haven't touched that particular line since.
I've had similar things occur with multi-purpose wall warts (specified current ratings apparently aren't).
Yet another reason to keep spares handy.
UPS for Dummies © (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:UPS for Dummies © (Score:2)
'Was checking their press announcement [apcc.com] and found this quote: "APC recommends that the user immediately remove the UPS unit from service by turning off all connected equipment, turning the UPS unit off, and then unplugging the unit from the electrical outlet." Umm... really, if you own a UPS and you need that information, you shouldn't own a computer, let alone an UPS.
Yes, but of course, that won't stop the stupid people from suing if their UPS catches on fire. Lowest common denominator, minus a bit, instructionsn are legal de rigeur nowadays.
-Rob
Just Great (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Just Great (Score:2, Informative)
You could try their ironically spelled phone number. My guess is though you will have to go through 7 menus and wait on hold for a while before you can actually talk to someone. Good luck
Re:Just Great (Score:2, Interesting)
As an aside, does anyone know of any very small (in size, va rating, and cost) ups's that have both serial and usb connections, spacing for 2 transformers plus 1 non-transformer plug, avr of some sort, separate phone line and ethernet surge protection built in, (that is, you can plug in a phone line and an ethernet connection at the same time), have some sort of smart signaling ("line power down and battery low--you better shut down now"; "okay, give me 2 minutes, then shut off my power whether or not wall power has come up, and keep me shut down until you've had reliable power for a while"), *and* that are properly documented by the manufacturer and work with some sort of open source ups software under linux?
I'm finding it hard to find any ups's that meet even half of those criterion, much less all of them.
Re:Just Great (Score:2)
And I'm not trying to flame or be rude with this comment... bear with me... but why do you need ethernet surge protection? In my situation I have 2 lines run out to the garage (detached) so I can play drums/guitar etc, but they're buried deep (6 feet) and grounded....
I've always wondered if surge protection would help....
Re:Just Great (Score:2, Insightful)
BTW the need for both phone and ethernet surge protection is because I'll be using phone lines as a backup for data syncs, if my client's network is down, or if they don't have a network.
The dual surge protection requirement is one of the less serious requirements--you can always buy an additional phone line/ethernet surge protection wall-wart type of thing to cover for one or the other not being there--but it's kind of ugly.
However, the big thing for me is to make sure the UPS behavior actually really does work correctly. For instance, if the UPS looses power and goes battery-low, and the system shuts down but the power comes back on during the shutdown process, the UPS had better still cut power for a short while, so the machines have an actual powerloss and then poweron to start them up again. Not every ups and software combination does this correctly all the time.
AB0231! (Score:2)
Gotta look up how to do the recall thing for 2 units here...
I guess that $20 UPS deal wasn't.
Use them to heat the SAUNAAB ? (Score:2)
Identifying unit (Score:2)
Consumers with affected units can identify them by the model markings on the front of the unit and by the serial numbers located on the bottom of the unit.
If the unit already is on fire and the outer casing has melted, please try to extinguish before checking the serial number. Do not try to lift burning unit to check serial number. Failure to follow these directions may lead to injury.
Funny name? (Score:2)
I suppose this incident will be forever remembered by whatever fire-related acronym for UPS is funniest. My vote is for "Unexpected Pyrotechnics Show". Hah!
Re:Funny name? (Score:2, Informative)
The 5300 may have been a crappy PowerBook, however they were never recalled due to batteries - 2 battery units overheated (neither caught fire) whilst being tested at Apple, and none of the problem Sony batteries were ever shipped to customers. An extended warranty (9 years IIRC) program was introduced to handle other problems with this model - the screen hinges were lousy, the plastics would often split, and there were was a rash of models with bad motherboards.
Unfortunately it's become an urban legend that Apple shipped some kind of burning PowerBook - but they didn't. You must be thinking of Compaq (had to recall 55,000 batteries from their Armada laptops), Dell (about 30,000 batteries from the Latitude and Inspiron models), or IBM (about 220,000 ThinkPad power adapters).
Best URL (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Best URL (Score:2)
Re:Best URL (Score:3, Funny)
A whole new way of enforcing "no user serviceable parts inside".
Re:Best URL (Score:2)
Re:Best URL (Score:2)
I have a different model which also melted (Score:3, Interesting)
Granted, there was somewhere between 1x and 1.5x its rated capacity plugged into it, but still, a properly designed unit should either turn off or withstand such abuse.
Getting the serial number via Linux (Score:5, Informative)
apcaccess | grep SERIALNO
Re:Getting the serial number via Linux (Score:2)
(with or without the subsequent grep).
Re:Getting the serial number via Linux (Score:2)
The CS models [apc.com] are USB only connectivity models.
And the apcupsd people have figured out how to talk to them. And you can read the model number and serial number and a bunch of other stuff off of them.
And I happen to have one of the affected units.
[root@stream RPMS]# apcaccess | egrep 'APCMODEL|SERIALNO'
SERIALNO : AB0142147520
APCMODEL : Back-UPS 500
Re:Getting the serial number via Linux (Score:2)
Well looks like I have one of them... (Score:4, Informative)
Here's the more detailed page with instructions [apcc.com] to finding out if your's is one of them.
And the recall instructions [apcc.com] I got once I registered my UPS.
Looks like all they are doing is replacing the "dangerous" unit with a "safe" unit of the same model, as they ask you to remove the battery from the recall unit and reuse it in the replacement unit.
I was kinda hoping to get a fresh battery with this recall. But then this does save them a hell lot in shipping considering how heavy the batteries are. With 2.1 million unit, every ounce saved amounts to quite a bit of money.
Hopefully I get a replacement soon, power at my apartment sucks.
Re:Well looks like I have one of them... (Score:2)
Why is it always me? (Score:2)
bad software crashes, bad hardware burns (Score:2)
One problem a UPS has that a power supply doesn't have is the battery will continnue to dump energy into whatever is getting hot.
I bet whoever at APC designed this has a severe pucker factor right now. Their butt has puckered up and gripped the seat cushion. Yessir.
al qaeda: (Score:2)
Wait exactly two weeks, then hit our power plants.
Thanks, APC.
APC and Dell? (Score:2)
Re:APC and Dell? (Score:2)
Apropos Fight Club reference regarding recalls (Score:2)
I'm a recall coordinator. My job is
to apply the formula. It's a story
problem.
TECHNICIAN #1
Here's where the infant went through
the windshield. Three points.
JACK (V.O.)
A new car built by my company leaves
somewhere traveling at 60 miles per
hour. The rear differential locks up.
TECHNICIAN #2
The teenager's braces around the
backseat ashtray would make a good
"anti-smoking" ad.
JACK (V.O.)
The car crashes and burns with
everyone trapped inside. Now: do we
initiate a recall?
TECHNICIAN #1
The father must've been huge. See
how the fat burnt into the driver's
seat with his polyester shirt? Very
"modern art."
JACK (V.O.)
Take the number of vehicles in the
field, (A), and multiply it by the
probable rate of failure, (B), then
multiply the result by the average
out-of-court settlement, (C). A
times B times C equals X...
CUT TO:
INT. AIRPLANE CABIN - MOVING DOWN RUNWAY
Jack is speaking to the BUSINESSWOMAN next to him.
JACK
If X is less than the cost of a
recall, we don't do one.
BUSISNESS WOMAN
Are there a lot of these kinds of
accidents?
JACK
Oh, you wouldn't believe.
Re:Apropos Fight Club reference regarding recalls (Score:2)
jack was not the name of the character in either the book or the movie.
Many thanks! (Score:2)
sPh
Anyone else have bad outlets on these? (Score:2)
This version (which I had to fix at my company) uses one molded plastic piece in the back for all the outlet holes (as opposed to one piece of plastic per outlet on ole' reliable). Essentially, they made their own outlets. That was our problem; the metal didn't grip the plugs nearly hard enough, so just a slight jiggle to the plug and the computer would turn off. Not too uninterruptable. Of course, we found out the hard way.
So, I opened up my unit and took a flat-blade screwdriver (note to anyone that tries this - unplug it and remove the battery for cripes sake!) and put a little more tension on the plug-grippers. We'll see if I have to do that to the replacement unit, too...
Anyone else had this problem?
Re:Anyone else have bad outlets on these? (Score:2)
Not the first time. (Score:2)
Seems some fool programmer had plugged everything on his desk into the UPS - including a couple heating appliances (coffee maker and such). The unit began emitting acrid smoke and shut down.
She unplugged it and took it outside. He brought it back in. It wasn't plugged in, but the smoke kept getting worse. Obviously it was in the process of catching fire. (Since she and the programmer weren't in the same command chain she went and got somebody who ranked him in his own hierarchy to get the box outside before the building went up.)
A UPS SHOULD handle overloads by shutting down gracefully. And a UL approval rating SHOULD mean that the UL lab checked this model for this functionallity (or at least checked that it won't emit toxic gas or liquids, flame, or superheated gas, or high-velocity debris as a result of excessive load {let alone from being penetrated by a postal worker's bullet or a lifttruck's fork}.
Did this model have a UL rating? Did UL screw up, or did APC change some element of the design (or have some defective component or manufacturing error)?
Belkin (Score:2)
With any power source or backup, it may be an idea to plug it in first... without attaching devices, in case a resulting short takes out your computers. That being said... I wonder if the warrantees on these surge bar's and UPS's are worth their weight.
Re:Belkin (Score:2)
UPS causes huge losses (Score:3, Interesting)
You're not alone - this is serious. (Score:3, Interesting)
A few months ago in that very same office one of the UPS's begin emitting a high pitched whistle from within (described as a 'tea kettle' sound), likely very hot gases escaping.
Re:Maybe this explains why ... (Score:2)
A few minutes later -- POP! and then smoke was coming out of my *computer*.
After returning it to APC, they claimed it had failed because it wasn't designed for a United States voltage. Evidently this unit should have gone to Russia, but somehow it ended up in my lap.
At any rate, it was obviously my fault -- and so I was out a computer. APC was generous enough to replace it with an American model, which gathered dust for quite some time (until I was able to replace my computer). I recommend everyone take a look at Tripp, they make a UPS that won't burst into flames and include excellent software support for a number of operating systems.
Re:Maybe this explains why ... (Score:2)
I've not had good luck with TrippLite -- got a BC-500 a few years ago, but the first one died under warranty, and the warranty replacement never did work right. Gave up on 'em. Quite a disappointment considering I'm sitting next to a 23 year old BC-450 that's only on its 2nd battery (uses a standard wheelchair battery).
Anyone know if the new Belkin UPSs are any good?
BTW, you aren't by some chance the same Eric Sarjeant who did a few Doom maps with Mark Klem? (Not sure of the surname spelling there...)
Re:Maybe this explains why ... (Score:2)
Re:Maybe this explains why ... (Score:2)
Re:Maybe this explains why ... (Score:2)
Explain to me how the hell you plugged it into your wall? THE PLUGS ARE DIFFERENT IN EUROPE. You wouldn't have been able to plug it in. You are full of CRAP!
Re:Maybe this explains why ... (Score:2)
It's Tesla. Telsa [linux.org.uk] is wife of Linux hacker Alan Cox and does not make coils.
Re:Maybe this explains why ... (Score:3, Informative)
If you do read the tech sheet on SmartUPSes, you'll see it's not what you think.
What you wrote is precisely describing how a BackUPS works. The battery power stays dormant until there is a power loss. Then, it kicks in and with only a minor glitch, it gives you fairly rounded sinewave voltage.
SmartUPS is not the same. Technically, when you plug in a SmartUPS, all your power cord does is charge the battery. Everything plugged on your SmartUPS gets its current from the battery, which is really decently sine-waved.
That way, you don't suffer from minor brownouts, 1/100th secs spikes, voltage variation or anything else. The current sent to your devices is precise and regular.
Drawback: you have to change your batteries more often, as they are constantly being used.
There is a warranty for precisely these things. APC's one is really great. Simply the fact that you didn't even tried to send them in before buying one makes me feel like this story is a complete troll. I haven't heard from anyone having problems with APC, and they did save my day more than once.
Have a nice day
Mike
Re:pictures of similar events... (Score:2)
http://marina.horde.org/gallery/?g=../../../etc
EXCELLENT security dudes!
I'm just gonna sit here and be stunned for a bit. Y'all can talk amongst yourselves.
jaysus!
Re:Stock Prices (Score:2)
Re:Stock Prices (Score:2)
Re:8 out of a couple million... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:This happened to me about 2 years ago. (Score:2)
Your UPS caught on fire. You or your cats could have died. Or you could have survived with disfiguring burns to your face and genitals.
No piece of electrical equipment should ever catch on fire. There is simply no excuse.