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The Sims Survivor 187

Bobby writes "Two great pop culture tastes that taste great together -- the TV show Survivor and the computer game Sims. The premise: eight virtual people trapped in a virtual house with limited resources. Instead of winning contests and voting people off, the characters are subjected to the whims of the Sims game -- but you'll still find the requisite scheming and sexual intrigue. Things really heat up in episode four, a robbery spoils the group's fun in a subsequent chapter, and catfights often liven up the action. Who will be the ultimate Sims Survivor? (Quote From Yahoo!)"
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  • So... (Score:2, Funny)

    by NanoGator ( 522640 )
    ... I wonder which Sim will become a guest star on a sitcom.
  • Well. (Score:4, Funny)

    by RaboKrabekian ( 461040 ) on Tuesday August 06, 2002 @06:10PM (#4021684) Journal
    I'm starting to think there's something wrong with my life. I don't have NEARLY this much time on my hands. And I'm unemployed. And have no friends.....

    These guys must *really* love the Sims.
    • Re:Well. (Score:4, Funny)

      by NanoGator ( 522640 ) on Tuesday August 06, 2002 @06:17PM (#4021735) Homepage Journal
      I had a friend on IRC that started using names of people she knew from the channel we visited. She'd give me daily gossip updates on what was happening. (The character named after me was the one that got all the chicks, so naturally I was intrigued.)

      I haveta admit, that was the most interesting convo I had on IRC in ages. It sure beat the hell out of "HI ARE YOU A WOMAN?".
    • here's a link to some mirrors [63.240.200.205]
      don't call me a whore, just treat me like one.
    • Re:Well. (Score:3, Informative)

      by kesuki ( 321456 )
      I'd like to point out that Sims Survivor is played by setting up a house with 8 sims and then letting it run without human interaction on the sims part... so if you've got a few PCs and use the 'infinite money' house trick it really only takes a few hours (total) of actual human effort to do.
      I also understand your feeling left out on 'having enough time.' I've been unemployed a while too, and I've had to ration the time I spend at my PC or else nothing gets done.
  • Holy shit. I think putting these two over-hyped, lame peices of entertainment together has caused a singularity of lameness. An area so lame that it suck in and destroys all cool things with in its grasp. C'mon, Survivor? Fuck your corporate entertainment!
    • Holy shit. I think putting these two over-hyped, lame peices of entertainment together has caused a singularity of lameness. An area so lame that it suck in and destroys all cool things with in its grasp. C'mon, Survivor? Fuck your corporate entertainment!
      Okay, I'll bite: What two underrated pieces of entertainment would you put together to create a singularity of coolness?

      Heh could yoy guys imagine a Discovery Channel version of the Sims, done kinda like 'Walking with Dinosaurs'?
  • dammit, I've been trying to avoid these reality TV shows. I'm proud to say I've seen only 1/2 an episode of survivor and no other reality tv shows for one simple reason...they suck. Go ahead and watch some other people live their lives instead of living yours...it's easier that way. These shows are becoming harder and harder to avoid. They've already been penetrated most of primetime, and I'm running out of ripped episodes of GOOD shows like Futurama and Family Guy.
    • The Sims IS basically watching other people live their lives....so its a perfect match for survivor or any soap opera
      • The Sims IS basically watching other people live their lives

        I saw someone playing the sims once, I thought it was fitting people in a room and removing the doors, watching them urinate over themselves, trapping people in swimming pools with no ladders and setting people on fire.

        LEt me tell you a story about reality tv.

        Sunday afternoon, I was flicking through some tv channels. One channel had some fat woman sprawled out asleep on a bed. Carried on flicking. 5 minutes later I fliicked back, the same woman was lieing fast asleep on the bed. Intrigued I kept it on for 5 minutes. Nothing else happend.

        This is reality TV ladies and gentleman.

        Needless to say I got my futurama dvd's out and watched a couple of eps.
    • The problem with 'reality TV' is that it's not reality. It's an artificial situation. If you want real reality TV, check out "America's Wildest Police Videos".

      Too bad that's considered by many as 'low brow' entertainment. I think that show goes a lot farther to convince people to fasten their seatbelts than signs that say 'buckle up'.
      • That show is OK, but they need to give up on the helicopter commentator.
    • What gets me is how difficult it is to carry on a conversation with people who do watch it (Namely, mass fucking majority). Run into old friend,

      "Hey how's it going? How's that cancer that's eating your insides?"

      "Fine, hey you catch last Wednesdays Survivor? Ben told Sam that they had to gang up on Scott because he was trying to hook up with Jenny who Ben wants"

      "Uhm, wasn't that terminal cancer?"

      "Yeah. So you missed it when they voted Sally off the island because she had VD?"

      It's a soap opera for the whole family.

      I'm at a loss because I don't watch any TV and constantly have to deal with people saying things related to TV, and not having any clue what they are talking about.
      • Well for those of us who don't watch TV, there's always "did you see that article on slashdot?"
      • I know. I feel like saying...

        SHUTUP or I'll kill dash nine you

        But I can't, because they wouldn't understand. That's the difference between US and THEM. We assume that they have no idea what we're talking about.
        • But I can't, because they wouldn't understand. That's the difference between US and THEM. We assume that they have no idea what we're talking about.

          I'm hoping that sarcasm. Just because people watch TV and blather on about Survivor doesn't mean they dont' know what kill -9 is. One of the best programmers I know loves TV. Not so much Survivor but he goes on about Buffy and Will and Grace (I think that's what it's called)

      • by garcia ( 6573 ) on Tuesday August 06, 2002 @08:46PM (#4022485)
        instead you live your life on the Internet talking about /. related things to other people who are interested in /. related items.

        It's a living soap opera led by Tim, Katz, and Rob.

        We hate MS, Billy has gone and done it again, owning himself by allowing Windows to be taken over by Shatter.

        OMFG, the world is coming to and end, Linux didn't make it as a desktop OS.
    • What, you didn't like bachelorettes in Alaska? I had the best night drinking PBR and watching that show in between my turn at Risk.

      Holy shit! I'm a fucking nerd!

    • I'm proud to say I've seen only 1/2 an episode of survivor and no other reality tv shows for one simple reason...they suck.

      As much as I agree with you that reality TV shows are a waste of time, can you truly say they "suck" without having seen a fair representation of them? No, 1/2 of an episode of Survivor doesn't count. As with any good argument against something, you generally need to have an understanding of what you're arguing against. (ie, I've seen a number of different "reality" shows, from the originals like Real World, to Survivor, to Survivor copies like Boot Camp. I think they suck, but had I not seen a number of episodes from several different shows, could I fairly say that?)

      They've already been penetrated most of primetime, and I'm running out of ripped episodes of GOOD shows like Futurama and Family Guy.

      Consider reading a book, going outside, playing a video game, etc. There's no reason you have to watch TV. And if you do have to watch TV (say, from some bizarre and rare medical disorder), do yourself a favor and get HBO. You'll be glad you did.

      • As much as I agree with you that reality TV shows are a waste of time, can you truly say they "suck" without having seen a fair representation of them?

        Sure you can say they suck. They're on television, right? Worse, they're on primetime, right? Then you can say they suck without watching any footage, and you're already in the 90th percentile or so.
      • by unicron ( 20286 ) <unicron AT thcnet DOT net> on Tuesday August 06, 2002 @07:24PM (#4022127) Homepage
        Oh yeah, HBO is so great. I know so many people who swear by that puke fest of a show, Sex in the City. Here's a sample scene for those of you that haven't had the pleasure of watching it:

        Girl 1: I love cock!
        Girl 2: Really!? What a coincidence, I love cock!
        Girl 1: I had cock on the way here..twice!
        Girl 3: Quit talking about cock, you're making me want cock.
        Girl 4: We're such strong, powerful women!
        All: Agreed!
        • Oh yeah, HBO is so great. I know so many people who swear by that puke fest of a show, Sex in the City.

          You mean people watch Sex in the City? Huh. No, I suggest HBO for the real quality stuff, like Sopranos and Six Feet Under, and the occasional mini-series (Band of Brothers was awesome). Right, so you're saying, "Pay for HBO? Just for a Sunday night line-up? What am I going to watch the rest of the week?" Not a problem. That goes to the rest of my post -- get out of the house! Or read a book (I'm reading A Secret Histroy [barnesandnoble.com], the first volume in the book of Ash). Hell, if you have to be geeky, go write some code. Point being, there's a ton of better things to do than watch TV (yeah, like I'm one to talk, considering what I've spent on my entertainment center. but until AT&T Broadband starts broadcasting HD content, it's pretty much a waste as far as TV goes. Much better for DVDs and my HTPC).

    • "I'm proud to say I've seen only 1/2 an episode of survivor and no other reality tv shows for one simple reason...they suck."

      Sadly, i got suckered into a game of survivor power hour. one shot a minute for 60 minutes. some people went on to do a century club.

      i must say, i didn't even finish... my stomach gets too full. no i'm not a two beer bitch. i drank over a liter of whiskey in a few hours on my last b-day, woke up at noon the next day, and started drinking again.

      But, i must say i really don't care for backstabbing and deception... i like engineering, something more logical. thus, i read /. and the like.

    • Just turn off the goddamn TV.

      I own one. In all it's 12" of glory. It's 6-7 years old, and was free at work when I got it.

      I watch 2 hours of 60minutes a week. And I watch the news in the morning, and in the evening if I remember. Once in awhile I'll watch CSI.

      It's really not difficult at all to avoid "reality" TV. Just avoid TV.
    • I'm proud to say I've seen only 1/2 an episode of survivor and no other reality tv shows for one simple reason...they suck.

      I'm proud to say that you make no sense. They suck yet you've never watched them.... Hmmm....

    • I'm proud to say I've seen only 1/2 an episode of survivor and no other reality tv shows for one simple reason...they suck.

      This gets modded insightful? You're proud to condemn an entire genre ("they suck") after viewing 1/2 an episode of one reality show. That's like saying Windows sucks after viewing the splash screen or saying linux sucks after seeing Tux.

      Hopefully this will come up tomorrow when I meta-moderate.
    • I've seen only 1/2 an episode of survivor and no other reality tv shows for one simple reason...they suck. Go ahead and watch some other people live their lives instead of living yours...it's easier that way.
      What an ignorant statement. Shows such as Survivor are game shows. Primetime dramas are more about watching somebody's life. People watch West Wing to see life in the White House, ER to see how the stress of being an emergency doctor affects the characters' lives, or The Practice for a glimpse at trials and their toll on victims and lawyers. At least reality contestants aren't just actors.

      And if an extra hour a week of TV a week has that big of an effect on your life...

      • While it is true that "reality tv" shows are mostly contests, there is something to be said in preference of primetime drama over reality tv.

        Primetime dramas offer us something most of us don't get/want a chance to experience - certain ascepts of life. Law & Order, West Wing, ER - these shows give us a piece of our society that we don't understand well. Yes, it's completely scripted. This (usually) ensures a good show. I have seen far better television in an episode of West Wing than in Survivor.

        Reality TV (Real World style) is a sequence of forced interactions between people. It makes great psychology case studies, but there's no result, no benefit, no moral, and very little resolution. Reality TV (Survivor style) is like a game show, that didn't end. We absorb ourselves in the people on the show and their interactions, even though they are more forced and artificial than the Real World. The problem with Survivor is it goes on too long. Even the best contestant on Jeopardy is gone in 5 shows, and you can learn things on Jeopardy. Survivor teaches you how to survive in a carefully selected, well-stocked wilderness.

        Ultimately, an entire season of Surivor has only taught you that you do or don't want to know these people. You can get more out of Wheel of Fortune.

    • ". I'm proud to say I've seen only 1/2 an episode of survivor and no other reality tv shows for one simple reason...they suck"

      so you somehow know all reality shows suck without watching them.. wow.

      Perhaps you can also tell us how to judge people without ever seeing them?

      OTOH, I have tuned into them, briefly, and they do suck. But you sound like someone who just wants to say they suck for the sole purpose of being "different" and fitting into some preconcieved notion of what you think is cool.

      • I don't need to be in a car accident to tell you it would suck. I've never been in jail, but I'm sure that sucks. Being a drug addict sucks, but so many addicts recommend it.

        This poster obviously learned all he wanted to know about reality TV, the entire idea of it turned him off, so for him, it all sucks. The idea of forcing people into a situation where they either backstab their peers or lose big money reminds me way too much of my work. I have yet to watch a single episode of survivor, but I can say it sucks.

        As for judging people before you see them, that's easy. Just use stereotypes, because they're a good rule of thumb. Just be prepared to revise your opinions if the person shows any surprises.
    • Okay, flame away.

      To me, the thing that makes Survivor watchable is that it's a laboratory of power dynamics. Who has power resources (strength, attractiveness, skill at catching food, skill at not pissing people off) this week? Who's working on acquiring some, how are they doing it, and did it work? Who's made mistakes that cost them power?

      Any laboratory is a contrived situation; in fact, in science you TRY to put controls on the situation so that you can better study the subject without too many variables. Just think of Survivor as "power lab 101".

      Having said that, I much prefer another Mark Barnett production, Eco-Challenge: The Expedition Race [ecochallenge.com].
    • I, too, only watched about 20 minutes of the first Survivor series - and actually the 10 minutes of commercials were the winner in my entertainment book.

      Putting a fresh, unique idea (Sims) together with a weekly soap-opera-cum-SI-survival-attire special (Survivor) is a travesty of insults to our collective intelligence.

      There - I said it...and I feel better.

    • I make a singular exception for the Osbournes (I'd watch the old candid camera, if it was on). The problem with reality TV is not that there's something inherently wrong with the prospect - after all, documentaries are reality TV, fundamentally. The problem is that most "reality TV" is:
      1) Despicable. (Mean-spirited, materialistic, what have you.)
      2) Stupid.
      3) Boring.
      4) Fake.

      Now, the Osbournes is positively humanistic. Uplifting, even. Ozzie's little family is also authentically funny, not to mention smarter than the people on the reality TV shows. I suspect that the osbournes show is substantially faked, as well, but I'll let that pass.
  • Seriously guys, why do you keep posting stories that link to little cracker jack servers that explode at the first mention of Slashdot? At the very least, post the Google cache with the story!
  • by jjeffries ( 17675 ) on Tuesday August 06, 2002 @06:15PM (#4021724)
    ...and who will be the first character to wake up on a flaming couch in a room not big enough to turn around in that has been constructed sans doors or windows?

    Yes, I love The Sims!
  • ...they survived the webserver explosion ok.
  • Big Brother (Score:2, Informative)

    by imevil ( 260579 )
    The French Version of Big Brother is called Loft Story and here [simsloft.fr.st] is a page with the big house and the people playing the French Big Brother.
  • Eh, is it just me or am I really confused now? First of all the TV show is suppose to be a show about reality, hence, the whole genere of 'reality TV.' Then here we have the Sims, which is a virtual simulation of reality in a semi-controlled environment... Combine the two together, where in one aspect is a show about reality, and the game that is suppose to simulate reality. Is it just me or am I just confused, disturbed, entertained, and disgusted all at the same time? :-)

    Welcome to the new fronteir of Simulation Reality TV.
    • You missed the part where the "reality TV" program is actually not reality either[0].

      And yes, it is just you. The rest of us have been equipped by long experience in the postmodern age to comprehend, interpret, and enjoy concepts like this.

      [0] It's actually a "real people in unreal situations" sort of program. Kinda like the canonical "reality" show, MTV's The Real World.
  • Or do most geeks dislike the "fuck your buddy" so called reality game shows?
  • I used to (Score:3, Funny)

    by jfroot ( 455025 ) <darmok@tanagra.ca> on Tuesday August 06, 2002 @06:20PM (#4021759) Homepage
    When I used to play Sims, I'd have 2 girls and 1 guy living in the same house. One girl would always stay in the house. The other girl had a day job, and the guy had a night job. During the day I'd make the guy and girl have sex, and at night I'd make the two girls do it. On the weekends, they'd get jealous and fight because they'd see each other getting it on.

    Now THAT would make some great TV.
  • The ubiquitous ... (Score:1, Informative)

    by shrikel ( 535309 )
    google cache [216.239.51.100].

    Warning -- the page has a pop-up.

  • There will be no survivors, after their virtual "house" goes up in flames from a good 'ol fashioned slashdotting!

  • umm (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward
    i wasn't aware the show survivor was a great anything..
  • Phew... (Score:5, Funny)

    by wilburdg ( 178573 ) on Tuesday August 06, 2002 @06:29PM (#4021819)
    Occasionally I am kinda glad sites get slashdotted. Otherwise, I would've spent a few minutes of my life looking at a site about some sick sims/survivor game.

    Thank god.
  • Survivor (Score:2, Funny)

    by horsie ( 91009 )
    Well, apparently, no one told the web server that it had to survive as well... seems that it's been voted off the Internet.

    • Bwahahahaha! I saw this same link on BBSpot [bbspot.com] back in March '02. I thought it had been submitted to slashdot already, but apparently not.

      It was a pretty funny site. If you can get into it after the slashdotting is over, I recommend taking a look. But yeah, the guy has a lot of free time on his hands.

      =jh

  • A friend of mine created a similer project with all the same cast from the second survivor. He tried to emulate the personalities. In a few days, everyone was gone exept for five people, the same final five people on the real thing!
  • Google Cache (Score:4, Informative)

    by Fuyu ( 107589 ) on Tuesday August 06, 2002 @06:35PM (#4021856)
    As the site is loading quite slowly, here's the google cache: main site [216.239.37.100], house [216.239.37.100], people [216.239.37.100].

    There are a few other Sims tv based websites out there: Sims Survivor [geocities.com], Sims Survivor 2 [geocities.com], Sims Survivor 3 [geocities.com], and Sims Survivor Javna [geocities.com].
  • Hopefully this doesn't reach full maturity by allowing people to have bio-mechanical eyes that broadcast their lives to others, sort of like Simstars in Gibson's novels
  • In Episode 5 (Score:1, Redundant)

    by quantaman ( 517394 )
    Things grind to a halt as the virtual world is /.ed into oblivion and nerds everywhere sigh as another Survivor spin-off dissapears in a puff of smoke :)
  • .... as long as I can apply the "Make Your Sims Nekkid" patch that works on the game.
  • by Target Drone ( 546651 ) on Tuesday August 06, 2002 @06:55PM (#4021955)
    What's next? The Slashdot Sims where you can become a member of a simulated slashdot community.

    Oh boy! I can hardly wait to sign up and start my new life as first poster then slowly work my way up to a full blown troll.

  • As lame as this is, it's makes a clever point.

    Artifical Intelligence has developed far enough to be un-predictable and to a certain extent can emulate human-like qualities.

    Ponder that for a second.

    • You deserve kudos for finding one redeeming fact in relation to this article.

      You also deserve a condescending pat on the head for being too much of an optimist.
    • Yes, didn't you read about the robot at the AI conference that cut in line and ran into a judge? Sounds like my uncle at a family reunion...

      Maybe someone will vote the creator of this crap out of the gene pool.
  • I imagine that it would be hard to tell the difference between the real show and this show. I mean the characters are about as shallow and painful.
  • ...but it is like Big Brother. Survivor takes place outdoors (that's a huge part of the game), while BB contestants are confined to a house.
  • shouldn't it be "Sim Big Brother?" I mean, the sims, for the most part, takes part in a house, not an island. unless you're running the vacation pack. irregardless, its still a very stupid idea.
  • how much Playboy will offer for one of the sims to pose nude in their magazine.
  • My GF built the entire house and cast from this year's season of Big Brother (.au version) in the Sims. She even fiddled with Sims traits so that their star signs were right, and added the cast bios from the web-site into their descriptions.

    Xix.
  • The 'Foot' icon is supposed to mean Ha-ha funny, not weird creepy sad 'funny'. Ha-ha good, weird creepy sad, bad. It isn't hard really. If /. wants to have a 'funny stuff of web' where 'funny' means pathetic and yet in some way vaguely apealing to some nerdy minority, they could at least invent a new icon.
  • This is the whole point of games like this, taken to an intriguingly silly extreme. I say enjoy the idea; let's just admit we all like twisted simulator scenarios (or we wouldn't have The Sims: Hot Date, now, would we?).

    Me, I'm waiting for someone to get me a copy of the Sims for MacOS X... /Brian
  • Ten times cooler... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by nordicfrost ( 118437 ) on Wednesday August 07, 2002 @04:00AM (#4023752)
    The Sims: Battle Royale extention kit!! [battleroyalethemovie.com]

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