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How many TikTok "users" are completely passive, never posting and only viewing / listening? I'm guessing most of them.
How many TikTok "users" are completely passive, never posting and only viewing / listening? I'm guessing most of them.
Some people do regular livestreams and chats to interact with fans. That’s edging more towards social media but it’s still a stretch.
Why does everything have to be profitable? If that were the case then your local potable water plant wouldn't exist, or the sewer plant, or roads, or
Yes. It really is a moral duty to tell the Wright brothers that their pie in the sky visions have a track history of failure -- to remind them that there are good reasons flight isn't already a commonplace thing.
Have grade-separated tracks that go above or below the roads.
Retractable concrete walls at crossings. Or, if that's too much, retractable bollards.
Isn't this the same thing as aerating your lawn? Pull out plugs of dirt so the soil loosens up. Between digging out holes for nuclear reactors to digging out holes next to a volcano to use its heat, aren't we loosening tectonic plates by relieving pressure?
I talked with Chat-GPT to understand its argument, and the gist was: the critique about low thermal conductivity was absolutely correct for the geothermal attempts between ~1970 and 2010. But modern “superhot rock” geothermal is operating in a very different regime.
First, they can now induce vastly more fractures in the rock. Heat transfer in geothermal isn’t about the raw conductivity of solid rock - it’s about surface area. More fractures = more exposed hot rock = more efficient heat sweep. The fracture networks used today are orders of magnitude larger than the old HDR trials.
Second, the water isn’t just hot water or steam anymore. At these temperatures and pressures it becomes a supercritical fluid. That matters because it convects heat through the fracture network instead of relying on slow conduction. So you don’t get the old “hot spot next to the well / cold depleted zone” behavior - the fluid actively evens out temperature gradients.
Third, the sites they’re using now (like Newberry Volcano) have massively higher heat flux from below. Many of the early HDR projects were drilled into generic crustal hot rock with weak replenishment. Near a volcano, the heat flow is orders of magnitude higher.
Add to that the modern toolkit - horizontal drilling (mid-2000s onward), high-temperature drilling materials, computer-modeled fracture design, etc. None of this existed during the early HDR experiments that gave geothermal a bad reputation.
Chat-GPT summed it with a metaphor: the old Hot Dry Rock systems were like trying to heat your house using a candle in the corner. Tiny fracture zones, minimal surface area, conduction-limited, fast local cooling and slow reheating.
The new approach is more like engineering a large underground heat exchanger connected to a huge volcanic heat source.
And yes, you can overdraw heat - just like you can over-pump groundwater. But operators don’t have to push it that hard, and modern models tell them exactly how much heat they can sustainably take each year.
I don't understand these topics deeply? I'm hoping that you do, and that this will mean something to you.
I'm not an engineer, but here's what Chat-GPT thinks, when I shared your comment with it:
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Not quite. This criticism is valid for old-school “hot dry rock” geothermal (1970-2010), but it doesn’t apply to the new superhot-rock designs.
It’s true that rock has low thermal conductivity and that conduction-limited systems cool locally if you withdraw heat faster than it flows back. That’s exactly why the early HDR [Lion: -- this means "Hot Dry Rock"] experiments never scaled.
But superhot-rock geothermal isn’t using the old model.
Three things have changed:
Supercritical water (>374C, high pressure).
At these temperatures you’re no longer circulating liquid water or steam. Supercritical fluid behaves like a gas in viscosity but carries heat like a liquid, and has dramatically higher enthalpy. It transfers heat through fractured rock convectively, not purely by conduction. That’s a completely different thermodynamic regime than the classic HDR studies.
Engineered fracture networks (modern EGS).
Today’s EGS looks much more like a controlled, high-permeability heat exchanger than a single injection well in a monolithic rock mass. You’re creating a huge surface area and letting supercritical fluid sweep heat through it. The limiting factor becomes the fracture network, not the bulk conductivity of a single block of granite.
Volcanic settings with very high heat flux.
The Newberry system is only a few miles from an active magma body. The heat inflow from depth is orders of magnitude higher than at the old HDR field sites. You still have to manage production rates, but you’re no longer relying on conduction through kilometers of cold crust.
The “if it were workable we’d already be using it” argument also doesn’t hold. We didn’t have:
* horizontal drilling at scale until the mid-2000s,
* the ability to design fracture networks with modern HPC,
* high-temperature drilling materials,
* or any commercial attempts at supercritical geothermal
until the last decade.
The physics hasn’t changed, but the engineering finally can reach the temperatures where supercritical convection dominates and where the geothermal resource is effectively thousands of times denser.
Superhot geothermal still has plenty of open questions (scaling, economics, long-term well integrity), but the “thermal conductivity of rock makes it impossible” critique is describing the previous generation of geothermal, not the current one.
where would the land for that come from? Going around great lakes and through mountains are occupied routes. Are you going to push homes out of the way, bore through mountains? You can but it's expensive!
Generally a few things
1) eminent domain for countryside land
2) tunnels into cities.
3) once the network is in existence cities that don't have it lose out and will make a big effort to find land for
The distances in America are much bigger, so ideally you'd move to a faster rail standard, either simply double European width or maglev. Of Underground tunnels, though, are a really big thing because the main benefit of trains is that you can run them right to the center of the city so that people living there can leave their offices 20 minutes before the train, walk or take a taxi, get to the station 10 minutes before departure and still safely get their train.
At the other end it's even faster because you don't need the 10 minutes of leeway.
One man's constant is another man's variable. -- A.J. Perlis