Huawei Ex-director On Trial In Poland On China Spying Charge (apnews.com) 27
An anonymous reader shares a report: Two men accused of spying for China went on trial Tuesday in Warsaw -- a Chinese citizen who is a former sales director of Huawei in Poland and a Polish cybersecurity expert. The men, Weijing Wang and Piotr Durbajlo, have both pleaded not guilty. At the start of Tuesday's session in Poland's capital, a prosecutor requested that the trial be held in secret because of the classified nature of some of the evidence.
Defense lawyers objected, saying the nature of the charges requires that the proceedings be transparent. Both Wang, speaking in fluent Polish, and Durbajlo said they wanted an open trial. But after a brief recess, the three-judge panel announced the proceedings would be held behind closed doors, citing state interests, and journalists were told to leave. Wang and Durbajlo were arrested by Polish authorities in January 2019 and accused of spying for China under the cover of seeking business deals for Chinese technology company Huawei.
Defense lawyers objected, saying the nature of the charges requires that the proceedings be transparent. Both Wang, speaking in fluent Polish, and Durbajlo said they wanted an open trial. But after a brief recess, the three-judge panel announced the proceedings would be held behind closed doors, citing state interests, and journalists were told to leave. Wang and Durbajlo were arrested by Polish authorities in January 2019 and accused of spying for China under the cover of seeking business deals for Chinese technology company Huawei.
Re:Poland and rule of law (Score:5, Insightful)
Just like in the USA. If the election had been closer, there's a good chance we'd be in a civil war right now, or at least an ugly standoff. Roughly a third of the population believe Democrats rigged the election to win. Everyone walks around with fundamentally different views of reality right now. If people don't agree on the basics of societal realities, we're screwed: Matrix zombies walking around thinking everything is fake, rigged, and/or bugged, that scientists and subject matter experts are all bribed or highly biased.
If you dismiss all subject matter experts who tell you things you don't like, what's the alternative? Blowhard dropout pundits fill the void and create mental voids. Such people often trust their "gut", but guts have a poor track record. The religion I grew up in told you to "pray about it and see how God makes you feel". I suspect their wiring to the Deity Network is quite faulty, though. It's the alchemy and phrenology of political fact finding.
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This was the first election there hasn't been a peaceful transition of power. Remember that the main goal of the "protesters" was to disrupt Congressional vote tallying.
I will agree the culture war tension tends to wax a wane over the decades, and I hope the current situation wanes rather than keeps increasing due to the internet.
It seems the internet magnifies belief in conspiracy theories and nonsense via machine-driven reinforcement of p
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That is funny, because we think you guys are NPCs blindly following what you are told by media, hollywood and the corrupt politicians.
Q_uestion everything.
Have you read the Fauci emails? It is proof the "subject matter experts" are both bribed and highly biased.
Have you been tracking the Arizona audits? Its looking like the level of cheating
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Let's deep-dive one of these like good nerds should: give ONE clear situation where Fauci has given false information not based on the best knowledge at the time.
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There's a lot content there. Is there a particular claim or quote that you feel strongly supports your claim? Let's focus on doing one right rather than shot-gun or gish-gallop this.
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Since you are gish-galloping and won't pick a specific topic, I will: "he worked to cover it all up after by controlling the narrative with companies like facebook."
Show evidence of this claim please.
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We should stop putting up with shit from Putie. Hack back and hack bigly. There's plenty of truth about him that Russian citizens aren't aware of or don't believe. Stuff the truth into every e-corner of Russia until it swamps Putie's KBG caboose. There is already a lot of discontent in Russia due to the economic embargos he brought on himself by being a land-hungry dicktator.
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Roughly a third of the population believe Democrats rigged the election to win.
It's more like 1/8 of the population. Half of Republicans (1/4 of the population) believe the Big Lie, turning into 1/8. That's still representative of 41 million people or 10 million voters.
That's an awful big number believing a dangerous idea (no wonder they talk about having a coup Myanmar style in broad daylight.) But it's not 1/3 of the population.
Cue the reaction (Score:1)
Aaand... two Polish citizen in China are about to be detained. Oh sorry, kidnapped.
Poland is probably about as authoritarian as China, but kidnapping is China's go-to geopolitical strategy.
Best proof that the Chinese guy is a spy (Score:5, Interesting)
Wang, speaking in fluent Polish
Nobody learn Polish. Unless they're born and Poland, or their employers propose them to relocate to Poland on pain of having their nuts crushed into a 100-ton press before getting their pink slip. And that's in western countries!
For a Chinese national to be fluent in Polish and relocate to Poland, you can bet a shiny Yuan he was specially trained for the job - and not by Alibaba...
Re:Best proof that the Chinese guy is a spy (Score:5, Informative)
...Nobody learn Polish. Unless they're born and Poland, or ...
If one speaks Russian it is possible to understand Polish after an hour or so of watching TV. For example, the airplane in Russian is pronounced as "samoljot" in Polish "samolot". The word for water is the same "woda", etc.
You may go to Google translate and check it out yourself, - a lot of words are quite recognizable.
Re:Best proof that the Chinese guy is a spy (Score:5, Funny)
If one speaks Russian it is possible to understand Polish after an hour or so
Okay good point.
Well guess what: a Chinese national who's fluent in Russian is even more suspicious than one who speaks fluent Polish :)
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... a Chinese national who's fluent in Russian is even more suspicious than one who speaks fluent Polish :)
In China due to some historic cultural tradition there are more young men than young women. Quite a few Chinese men move to the Russian Far East to do business and at the same time to find a spouse, since in Russia there are more women than men for some reason.
There are also a lot of Russians who work and live and China. Here is a video of a Russian boy who knows thousands of Chinese proverbs and idiomatic expressions, which not every Chinese native speaker may know: https://youtu.be/AixTMNCiZR8?t... [youtu.be]
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A lot of them are false friends.
"Owoce" is an excellent example. Russian is not mutually intelligible with any other slavic language despite sharing a lot with them. Generally, the only mutually intelligible slavic language pairs are Czech and Slovak, Upper and Lower Sorbian, Belarusian and Ukrainian, maybe also Macedonian and Bulgarian. I don't count Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian because that aren't really separate languages yet. Maybe in a couple of centuries.
Re: Best proof that the Chinese guy is a spy (Score:2)
Polish is mutually intelligible with Czech and Slovakian (even more so) as well particularly if spoken slowly and clearly back and forth, just be sure not to tell a Czech in Polish you are searching for their grandma.
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I get the joke, have learnt a bit of Czech a while ago and picked up some Polish along the way. According to the studies, though, mutual intelligibility between Polish and Czech is not that high, maybe about the same as between German and Dutch. Slovak apparently works better because of the more similar accent.
Re: Best proof that the Chinese guy is a spy (Score:2)
Isn't Huawei advertised by Lewandowski ? (Score:1)
I think I've seen some Lewandowski's commercials for Huawei..
China has trials in secrecy, but China is not part (Score:1)
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And the real agenda is .. (Score:1)