PDF Is Now ISO 32000 410
It is official. As PDF Architect Jim King blogged today, Adobe has received word that the ballot for approval of PDF 1.7 to become the ISO 32000 Standard (DIS) has passed by a vote of 13 positive to 1 negative. A two-thirds majority is required to pass so it was a large margin of victory (93%). The vote breaks down as follows: Countries voting positive with no comments (9): Australia, Bulgaria, China, Japan, Poland, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Ukraine. Countries voting positive with comments (4): UK (13 comments), USA (125), Germany (11), Switzerland (19). Countries voting negative with comments (1): France (37 comments). Countries abstaining (1): Russia.
Go Figure on France (Score:3, Informative)
Re:PDF is nice, but Acrobat ain't (Score:3, Informative)
Re:France... (Score:4, Informative)
Of course the various other shenanigans (such as alleged bribery attempts and quasi ballet stuffing) that plagued the OOXML submission probably haven't helped either.
Re:Great (Score:3, Informative)
Re:PDF is nice, but Acrobat ain't (Score:5, Informative)
See also iTunes and Quicktime in Windows.
Re:Adobe (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Adobe (Score:5, Informative)
Re:ISO? (Score:5, Informative)
PDFBox [pdfbox.org] - OSS Library for modifying PDFs on the fly.
FOP [apache.org] - Use XSL-FO to design printable page layouts in XML, then use FOP to transform them to PDF documents.
Foxit Tools [foxitsoftware.com] - Alternative to the overpriced Adobe products.
OpenOffice [openoffice.org] - The built-in support for PDFs is absolutely wonderful. I rarely give out DOC files anymore.
FPDF [fpdf.org] - PHP PDF generation tools.
iText [lowagie.com] - A great library for your own custom PDF generation.
Those are just a few. The PDF format itself is actually not too bad. (When Adobe isn't breaking it with needless revisions, that is.) It's biggest strength is that the psuedo-text nature of the format allows one to diagnose the internals of a file pretty easily. Its greatest weakness is that things like text fields are needlessly convoluted. At the end of the day, though, it's a pretty good format.
Re:France... (Score:3, Informative)
Because this format is technically pretty good, while Microsoft's format is technically bad.
Fact is that some proprietary formats become defacto standards
Microsoft's format wasn't rejected because it was from Microsoft, it was rejected because it was bad and needed work. If (and only if) Microsoft is willing to put in the work and make changes to the format, then OOXML can become an ISO standard as well.
Re:PDF Tainted by Shitty Adobe Reader (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Great (Score:5, Informative)
That seems pretty decent.
Re:PDF is nice, but Acrobat ain't (Score:4, Informative)
+5 for Adobe
+1 for Apple
-5 for Microsoft
-10 for Amazon (sorry Kindle, you're fucked)
Re:Adobe (Score:5, Informative)
The whole point of standardization is that it doesn't matter what Adobe does. Anybody can impliment the standard without too much trouble. Though, in practice, it was a DeFacto standard anyway, and there is already a ton of software that supports PDF. I haven't used Adobe's PDF reader in years.
xpdf, kpdf, Preview.app, Foxit Reader, etc. all work and between them probably support damn near any platform you would want to use. I use Foxit on my Windows machines, and I find it to be very convenient software which is fast, light, and mostly stays out of my way.
Re:France... (Score:3, Informative)
They can say hey we can do that too, but not promote the product other than an alternative, an alternative they have no expectation that the client base would be able to actually commit to.
Re:That is pretty sensitive.... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:ISO? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Great (Score:4, Informative)
The big one is of course forms. Do any other PDF creators create PDFs with forms? Do they do it well?
I use cutePDFcreator, Foxit, and a few others but they are missing the ability to create forms. Some do it; none do it well, IMO. Without forms it's just a static document. PDF is overkill for just a portable static document. The full version of Adobe Acrobat is fantastic at creating forms. That is what makes it so special.
Re:ISO? (Score:4, Informative)
PDFCreator (Score:4, Informative)
Re:That is pretty sensitive.... (Score:5, Informative)
It's not insane, it's just one "f-stop" more sensitive to light than ISO 16000, which is one f-stop more sensitive than ISO 8000. We've already had ISO 6400 film for decades, and right now on the market there are a couple of cameras (like the latest flagship digital SLR from Nikon) with ISO 26500. Yes, that's twenty-six thousand, five hundred. Don't ask me how or why they did it, but they did. Nothing particularly crazy about it, in fact it's a great thing for those who need to use high shutter speeds in low light and/or can't afford ultra-expensive large aperture lenses.
Within ten years we no doubt will be seeing some digital cameras with ISO 32000 or higher sensitivities. Now if they'd just do something about the extremely limited dynamic range...
Re:Adobe (Score:3, Informative)
Sure, and with a 5Ghz Core2Octo processor and a RAID array of 10000RPM drives, you might be able to open that 114M file in 2 seconds with Adobe Reader. Personally, I'd rather use Xpdf (Foxit or SumatraPDF if using Windows) than spend $10000 upgrading my machine.
Re:ISO? (Score:4, Informative)
PDFLib [pdflib.com] - The standard (and powerful) PDF Library for PHP5
PDFLib Lite [pdflib.com] - The OpenSource version of the above
FPDI [setasign.de] - Imports existing PDF documents into FPDF
PDFLib Lite is a great tool for dynamically creating PDF documents on the FLY with PHP. Or, FPDF & FPDI if you don't mind a slight performance hit.
Re:Great (Score:3, Informative)
I just made a randomly generated pdf [exstatic.org] using a Lorum Ipsum generator and copy and paste.
278 page, 1.1 MB. Looks the same on my Mac as it does on a Linux machine as it does on Windows machine as it does on a reader that supports PDF as it does on the printer.
That's why.
Re:PDF works (Score:5, Informative)
Re:France... (Score:3, Informative)
The big issue was, I think, that if they had PDF in MSOffice, they could artificially deprectate it by having a 'This format may not save all the features of this document, use ours instead'. That was the groklaw suspicion I recall. Everyone else says 'use this, use ours, whatever you want', which does not harm Adobe.
Re:PDF Tainted by Shitty Adobe Reader (Score:3, Informative)
Re:PDF is nice, but Acrobat ain't (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Go Figure on France (Score:5, Informative)
So now Americans need to save face. And bashing France at every turn is a way for us to do that. And making it seem like the French hate us is even better, because it justifies our behavior.
The reality on the ground is very different of course. I remember going to Normandie around D-Day 2004, and seeing all the American flags flying. I imagine they were mostly new additions because of the anniversary and Bush's visit, but still it would be hard to imagine an American city being decked out with French flags to celebrate an occasion here. A major street in Caen is still named "Avenue du Six Juin". It was instructive to see the American bluster about France forgetting what we'd done for her, compared to the quiet steadfastness on display there.
-Esme
Re:PDF Tainted by Shitty Adobe Reader (Score:3, Informative)
Acrobat Reader 8.x is a piece of crap.
Re:ISO? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:PDF Tainted by Shitty Adobe Reader (Score:4, Informative)
misunderstanding of OOXML issue (Score:5, Informative)
The PDF specification is being approved by subcommittee 2 of technical committee 171. It has nothing to do with JTC1 and surely has nothing to do with SC34 of JTC1.
It's one thing for the average person to have no idea how ISO or IEC works, and to think the OOXML issue affects all of ISO, and to have no idea that IEC is just as affected by the OOXML issue as ISO is, but any respectable journalist should do some research and try to understand what they're reporting on.
The Inquirer should be ashamed to be associated with such bad reporting.
Re:In case we forget. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:PDF is nice, but Acrobat ain't (Score:3, Informative)