Slashdot CSS Redesign Contest 587
I will pick the winner based on a series of arbitrary and random criteria, many of which I will list below. The list is by no means comprehensive, but it should give you a good starting point.
I'm sure there are ultimately things that I'm forgetting. But the key goal here is to create the new look & feel for Slashdot. The winner is the one who creates what gets us the closest to a new site design.
This contest will be highly subjective. Ultimately tho, it falls upon me to select the winner based on arbitrary and subjective factors like aesthetics, as well as more tangible ones like implementability and compatibility.
CRITERIA
What follows is a brief list of criteria I will use to judge, as well as how to submit your entries. Remember that anything artistic I suggest is just that- a suggestion. If you hate green, go ahead and make a blue design. I'm just telling you what I'm looking for in a winning design... and while I am the judge, nothing is set in stone... like any good art student knows- you can do almost anything you want as long as you can rationalize it in your critique.
- Uses our existing CSS framework - We are willing to make minor changes to our underlying HTML if need be, but the ideal winner is implemented entirely by using custom images and CSS. Almost every element on Slashdot is appropriately classed or ID'd now, so you should be able to do it.
- Works compatibly on most browsers - IE, Firefox, Mozilla, and Safari represent the bulk of our traffic. Ideally a winning candidate works on these platforms, but also degrades nicely to the less popular browsers. We'll test winners against whatever we have access to. We're not expecting everyone's entry to work perfectly and identically on every platform that exists, but if your whole design hangs on CSS trickery that only works under 1 browser, you will lose!
- Retains all major bits of information - unless you can make a case for dropping something! Articles need bylines. You still need space for our ads. We still need a submenu to list out all the sections. If you want to trim down menus or something, we'll consider that, but most items on our pages need to be there for some reason. You'll need to rationalize dropping items from menus or removing parts of the UI that we need.
- Doesn't require us to add major new bits of data - There are a million great ideas for functions and features that could be added to Slashdot. This is not the place to propose them. This is about Look & Feel. This is not about telling us that we need voting on articles or tagging on polls. Those are valid feature suggestions that we would love to do one day. But this contest is about look & feel. Save feature requests for another time (and remember, patches are always welcome!)
- Topic Icons - So we have 150+ topic icons. Your design needs to incorporate our existing icons, and not require that we rebuild all of them. That means most likely that the icons sit on a white background. The icons themselves vary from around 50x100 to 100x50 but most float around 64x64. I'd strongly suggest that a winning entry is submitted using our existing topic icons as examples. let me say that again we have 150+ icons, and we can't rebuild them all. Your design should use our icons. Not new ones. That means sizes, and white backgrounds. This is the one rule that is pretty hard and fast. And no we're not switching to anti-aliased PNGs yet. Sorry.
- Entries ought not be bandwidth gluts. No hard/fast size limits here, but if your page requires 2 megs of jpegs to render, I'd suggest moving on.
- Retains some sense of visual continuity with Today's Slashdot - This one is the real challenge I think. From the Slashdot 'Shade of Green' (#006666) to the curve on the upper left hand corner of the page & article headers, to the use of the Coliseo font, I really think that many of these design elements need to persist. You are welcome to ignore me of course. But I'm being totally up front about this point: the winning entry ought to echo the current design. How loud of an echo is up to you.
- Entries should show as at least the index, but ideally a few other pages to see how their design might look showing other data formats. I really think Slashdot has 4 "major" pages: The Index, The Article, The Comments, and The User. I'm not saying you need to do all four, but the winning design needs to translate well to every data type on the site. The more guidance you give us, the more likely you are to win.
- I have to like it. Design something pretty. Design something high-tech. Design something minimal. Design something elaborate. I don't know what the winner will look like. I'm excited to see what you guys come up with.
HOW TO ENTER
My preferred method of submission would be that you email redesign at cmdrtaco.net with a URL to a place where I can see your design. Alternatively, if you have no access to a web server, I will accept a zip file or tarball, but would REALLY prefer URLs where possible.I fully intend to critique good entries. The goal here is of course to get the best looking, bandwidth efficient, compatible, attractive Slashdot. If I think your design is ugly, I'll tell you. If I think it's close, I'll give you specific ideas. I'm the judge here, so this is totally unfair. But again, my goal here is not to be fair, it's to make Slashdot look awesome.
I'm going to give this 2 weeks, and then I'm going to share with you some of my favorites at that point in a story. I'll try to tell you all what I like about these designs. I'll ask at that time for your feedback. Then I'll give everyone one more week. The contest will continue to be open to anyone who wants. Everyone is welcome to refine their designs, or submit new ones right until the end.
Between now and then, I will try to post a few journal entries as I see good designs float through. I want this whole process to be as participative as possible.
At the end of this time, I will pick a winner. I will be biased. I will be unfair. I will pick the design that I think is the best for Slashdot based on the criteria I mention above as well as my own personal sense of aesthetics.
The winner will get a fancy laptop. We haven't picked the exact one yet, but it's going to be a good one- we're not cutting corners. You'll be able to choose from a MacBook Pro or else a bleeding edge Alienware laptop. We'll pick the specs when we pick a winner so you get whatever is supremely awesome, but valued up to US $4500. We'll also be offering a $250 runner up prize.
Lastly, our corporate lawyer tells us that you are required to read the official rules before you enter.
Good luck to everyone. Happy designing. Have fun... I can't wait to see what people come up with!
OMG PONIES! (Score:5, Funny)
Green! (Score:4, Funny)
Is that acceptable?
Re:OMG PONIES! (Score:3, Funny)
OK... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:OK... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:OK... (Score:4, Informative)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-P-P-Powerbook [wikipedia.org]
Save you some time (Score:4, Funny)
You can send the laptop to:
Troll, inc
Under your bridge
Mid-town, USA 00192
Re:Save you some time (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Save you some time (Score:5, Funny)
It should be locked as the default for every account with negative karma.
Selectable Stylesheets (Score:4, Interesting)
However I quite liked the OMG Ponies design...
Re:Selectable Stylesheets (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Selectable Stylesheets (Score:3, Insightful)
Exactly! When I saw this rule:
I was crestfallen 'cause the very first thing I'd thought of with this contest was that I'd find a cooler colour scheme. Also, when the OMG!! Ponies!! des
Re:Selectable Stylesheets (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Selectable Stylesheets (Score:3, Insightful)
Ever wonder what these do :
http://slashdot.org/users.pl?op=edithome [slashdot.org]
[x] Simple Design
Simplifies the design of Slashdot to strip away some of the excesses of the UI.
[x] Low Bandwidth
Reduces the size of pages for people with slower network connections
Improve it without changing anything? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Improve it without changing anything? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Improve it without changing anything? (Score:4, Insightful)
Seriously Taco, wake up. If you are bounding entries to slashdot's current scheme, you won't end up with anything much better. It'll be like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. This site needs a complete overhaul, unless you want to be the only site on the Internet that looks like it was designed in 1998.
Re:Improve it without changing anything? (Score:4, Insightful)
Keeping the color (which I personally 'identify' Slashdot with) isn't one of the worst restraints one could get.
This site needs a complete overhaul, unless you want to be the only site on the Internet that looks like it was designed in 1998.
Damn, I just think I read a Pimp-my-Slashdot request: Isn't it a plus that with the 'looks' of '98, it also has the loadtimes of '98 ?
On a sidenote, I wonder why scalability (eg. mobile phone) isn't one of the judging points/requests: I would love to have a decent browsing experience on my phone.
Re:Improve it without changing anything? (Score:4, Insightful)
What's wrong with looking like you've got a bit of history?
I think many buildings that were designed in 1860 look nicer than buildings that were designed in 1960. I think many books that were printed in 1960 look nicer than books that were printed in 1996. So why do all websites have to be identical ZOMG-ITS-TEH-WEB-2.0? Why not hark back to the 1990s and the golden age of internet growth?
Re:Improve it without changing anything? (Score:3, Insightful)
Cheers.
Is this contest safe? (Score:5, Funny)
I won't be submitting an entry for two reasons - first, I actually like the layout of Slashdot. It's one of the most readable layouts out there, conforms nicely to all of the "best practices" of typesetting, and is far more elegant than 99.9% of all other blogs out there. That's one major reason I've stayed with Slashdot. The other reason is that I regard CSS as satanic hellspawn, the consequence of major corporations molesting the W3C. It would be better for LaTeX to add hypertext links and for browsers to move to a real presentation system. That's not going to happen. Hell, efforts by people to support TCL as a replacement for Java haven't got anywhere, and far more people use TCL than use LaTeX. Internet Explorer doesn't even have proper PNG support yet!
What's needed isn't a new look & feel, what's needed is a scoreboard. Each company's website totally smashed by a Slashdotting scores 5 points, 4 points for a SQL error, 1 point for merely being slowed and -2 if there's no noticeable impact. A bonus of 10 points should be awarded if it's a major corporation.
Re:Improve it without changing anything? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Improve it without changing anything? (Score:5, Informative)
the white background is more about necessity. We don't have the source material and time to rebuild 153 icons.
Re:Improve it without changing anything? (Score:4, Interesting)
We don't have the source material and time to rebuild 153 icons.
Um, what does rebuild mean, anyway? Just plain redraw of the icons? Can't I use my own icons if I create all of them by myself, thus requiring you /. people to do nothing about them?
Re:Improve it without changing anything? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Improve it without changing anything? (Score:5, Funny)
That is probably because you are spending your entire day surfing Slashdot instead of doing REAL WORK!!!
Oh wait....sorry, I just had a flashback to my last manager.
Re:Improve it without changing anything? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Improve it without changing anything? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Improve it without changing anything? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Improve it without changing anything? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Improve it without changing anything? (Score:5, Informative)
I would love to one day rebuild all the icons. I just don't want to force someone to think that rebuilding a full icon pack is part of this contest. It could be- but it isn't required. So my suggestion is to work with what we have.
Lets collaborate to de-GIF the slashdot icons (Score:5, Insightful)
Collaborate to de-GIF the Slashdot icons for the benefit of all. [slashdot.org]
Re:Improve it without changing anything? (Score:4, Insightful)
the the main logo is also terrible. i think a new logo should be designed and a similar font could be used to give you the same "feel" for the old logo...
i'd also like to see an off-shade of white used, it's MUCH easier on the eyes than #ffffff. and instead of using #000000, a nice dark, but not pitch black color makes things look SO much better... (like #353535)
the forest green #006666 is
i agree with the parent poster, it's easy to gripe about the current problems and it's unreasonable to expect a good design when you have to incorporate all of the existing bad elements of design into it. please please please do the readers a favor and lighten up your rules a little bit...
Oh Boy, Isn't This An Incredible Coincidence! (Score:5, Funny)
Wait... they're NOT?
sorry... never mind...
Make it Ugly (Score:3, Interesting)
A personal request (Score:5, Funny)
Well, at least CT is being honest. (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Well, at least CT is being honest. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Well, at least CT is being honest. (Score:3, Funny)
Quick! (Score:3, Funny)
Runner up? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Runner up? (Score:5, Funny)
It will remind people that second place is just the first loser.
(As previously seen in The Acts of Gord [actsofgord.com])
10. Creative treatment of grammatical errors (Score:3, Funny)
What about the /. effect? (Score:5, Insightful)
/. effect is dying... (Score:5, Interesting)
Posting anonymously, with no cookies, from a foreign proxy, with an alternate browser, so as not to get "bitchslapped" down by the editors.
Re:/. effect is dying... (Score:3, Informative)
Rethink the site... (Score:5, Insightful)
Your confines are really tight, and don't really provide any room for the identity to grow. Considering your competition (digg) has a much stronger, cleaner design because they haven't had to be tied to a decade of old design rules, I would almost say that you'd be better off throwing some of the rules out.
I think if you really want to redesign the site, you need to be willing to try new approaches with the architecture -- redoing many of the icons, cleaning up what can be a glut of information, and giving the site a more modern style that suits 2006. Tebrand the site and get rid of the font; create a new logo.
I hate to put it this way, because it's so cliche, but think outside the box. Your parameters make the box really hard to move around in.
I'm betting the best designs you get are the ones that ignore your rules and regulations the most.
Let's stop making this about Digg. (Score:5, Insightful)
95% of my post wasn't about Digg. It was about Slashdot. Digg and Slashdot are two different sites that mine a similar market.
I wasn't basing my point around Digg. I was merely exemplifying it. I know a lot of people around here don't like Digg, just as a lot of people here don't like Slashdot. But really, I think both sites could learn something from the other.
The truth is, though, Slashdot has ten layers of old structure that it should peel away and clean up, and that'd be true whether or not Digg existed.
#7 is kind of a dealbreaker (Score:5, Informative)
This one made me forget about entering. You listed the main things I hate the most about the current design. And while you say 'you can ignore me of course', it is strongly implied that this would be an exercise in futility.
I'm not sure I know how to please someone who's aesthetic discretion module is so blinkered as to actually cause an affection for Coliseo. :)
Re:#7 is kind of a dealbreaker (Score:5, Informative)
the winning design may end up being purple. I don't know. But I think echoing a few elements of todays design is important, and will be judging with that in mind.
Purple? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:#7 is kind of a dealbreaker (Score:3, Insightful)
I'll take the Macbook Pro, please (Score:3, Funny)
Anonymous Coward: What's to explain? He's an idiot!
Mods: Pipe down!
Eddeye: Well basically, I just copied the plant we have now.
Taco: Mm-hmm.
Eddeye: Then, I added some fins to lower wind resistance. And this racing stripe here I feel is pretty sharp.
Taco: Agreed. First prize!
Anonymous Coward: But it, it was a contest for children!
Mods: Yeah. And Eddeye beat their brains out!
Re:#7 is kind of a dealbreaker (Score:5, Funny)
Re:#7 is kind of a dealbreaker (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:#7 is kind of a dealbreaker (Score:3, Insightful)
Love it or hate it,
User-specific CSS as entries? (Score:5, Insightful)
Only problem I see is that you can't do anything outside of what you can do with a style sheet. If someone's that serious then they shouldn't have a problem/lack-of-motivation of setting up hosting elsewhere.
Better still: make this permanent. If I don't like X or Y then I can tweak my own style sheet the way I want. But I suppose that'd lead to user's finding a way to display: none the adverts.
Oh well, one can dream I guess...
Give the winner some free advertising (Score:5, Insightful)
Taco's getting a great deal here.
And more power to him, but let me suggest he sweeten the deal a bit.
(I'm not suggesting this put of self-interest: I'm a programmer, not a graphics designer. And besides, I prefer the minimalist non-graphic Slashdot interface anyway.)
In addition to the laptop, give the winner a tiny link to his (or her) site on any Slashdot page using his design. On the bottom of each page, in a small font size, something like "Page design by Winner's Name/a>.
This costs Slashdot nothing, and gives the winner free advertising that lets him participate in his own success. He can link to a site that offers redesigns for as fee, or a blog that explains his design principles and gets him some ad revenue, or whatever.
For the non-winning submissions that become Slashdot's "work for hire" property, at least put up a gallery of those designs, hosted by Slashdot and linking to the submitters' sites, so that Slashdot's readers can check them out and give the non-winners some business or at least page views.
And Slashdot should relax the work for hire provisions of the legal contest rules; I understand that Slashdot wants to be unhindered in its use of submitted designs and careful not to open itself to any law suits, but maybe Slashdot could provide an more Open Source example than requiring that all submissions, even the non winning ones, "transfer and convey, to Sponsor any and all your intellectual property rights in the Design".
Again, more power to Taco and Slashdot. Taco's leveraged Slashdot's visibility to get some serious work done for free. Just use that leverage to reward the contest submitters too.
Re:Give the winner some free advertising (Score:5, Interesting)
In addition to the laptop, give the winner a tiny link to his (or her) site on any Slashdot page using his design.
Meh. Now, if the Great Taco went and hunted down a 3-digit
Re:Give the winner some free advertising (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Give the winner some free advertising (Score:5, Funny)
e-e-e-e-18 (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:e-e-e-e-18 (Score:5, Informative)
Parents can theoretically sign on their behalf, but handling that on a large scale is hard, and there are a lot of other laws protecting minors, such as child labor laws in this case, that while you may not be in violation of, it's easier just to skip the problem entirely.
Please be sure you understand that last sentence before replying. I'm not saying this contest would violate child labor laws. I'm saying that verifying that in all relevant jurisdictions, plus any other relevant law, isn't economically worthwhile.
Since a minor can't sign a contract, the minor can't transfer IP rights as necessary to Slashdot. Obviously, this would be another layer of hassle for Slashdot if they picked a minor as the winner, getting the parent to sign instead. (This is where a creative lawyer could bring in "child labor" laws, by construing the prize as payment. Creative and unlikely to win, certainly, but Slashdot has "already lost" just by being sued.) And I'm not certain, but there may be issues with trying to directly give the prize to the minor, as well.
It's just not worth it.
Re:Minors can sign contracts. (Score:3, Insightful)
Minors in the USA can sign contracts.
(And provides supporting links.)
Point, but I believe your links also provide evidence for my assertion that in this case it's just not worth it, as it can get much more complicated.
But thanks for the correction.
I don't care who wins... (Score:3, Interesting)
Second prize is a set of steak knives. (Score:4, Funny)
just css? (Score:4, Interesting)
Coliseo Font Download Link (Score:4, Informative)
Coliseo Font [searchfreefonts.com] (direct download)... from here [searchfreefonts.com] in case they don't link the hotlinking to the zip file.
Good luck everyone!
Re:Coliseo Font Download Link (Score:3)
Anyone have any clue what the problem is?
Could we get a tar file with whats there now? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Could we get a tar file with whats there now? (Score:3, Informative)
I'm SO winning this (Score:5, Funny)
http://s87360432.onlinehome.us/slashdot.html [onlinehome.us]
After reading the rules, like the one that says 'echo the current layout' and 'use the same font' and 'dont change the graphics' - I REALLY think taco will pick my new layout. New laptop, here I come!!
A redesign is more than skin deep (Score:3, Insightful)
I'm sorry, but I can't throw any support behind this endeavour at all. After all, I think it's time to go back and look at what was just said:
Hey guys! I'm more than willing to let you redesign this place. Oh, keep that shitty logotype, and that "Slashdot Green", and the crappily-compressed icons of yesteryear. Actually, what we want is you to just change things minimally, and we want to do as little work on the Slashcode backend (and information architecture) as possible.
The point you guys are missing here is twofold: first, a redesign is more than just skin-deep; second, it's hard to even get to the skin-deep side of things when you're stifling creativity to the point of where the only thing you want to see is exactly what you've got now. Just go do a find/replace and change section heads to Helvetica and body copy to Georgia, space out your line-height a bit more, and voila! instant Slashdot "redesign". I wouldn't even call it much of a facelift.
You guys are trying to compete with places that are obviously out of your league from a UI perspective at that. As my friend Stick_Fig said above, Digg works because it's drastically cleaner on the frontend, and the only way to get that cleanliness on Slashdot in a CSS change would be to add a ton of display: none; to the code. This offers no benefit in decreasing load time to the user and just makes the site that more frivolous.
You've already lost some part of your readerbase to sites like Digg (which is a forbidden term around these parts) and quick-access links lists like del.icio.us popular [del.icio.us]. Asking for a facelift isn't helping your cause.
Anyway, let's get to that point: Changing a CSS file is not a "redesign". Saying so is just fooling yourself. A true redesign would take into account plenty of information architecture, markup optimisation, and a total re-thinking of Slashcode's interface. It's not enough to simply change green to blue and underline your links with dotted borders. A redesign requires changes to the markup both for semantics/accessibility as well as to maintain a coherent architecture across the redesign. A redesign requires thinking outside of the box on comment layout, administrative interface, and site structure.
You should be allowing designers and developers to tweak Slashcode itself as well as the template's markup. This readerbase is more than talented enough to do so. Once the aging Slashcode dinosaur is brought into check and architecture has been optimised, things can move along smoothly on the CSS end of things. And no, that HTML/CSS thing that you guys did a few months back (that CmdrTaco is saying was so snazzy) really doesn't change much of anything. Changing markup and not changing any internal IA structure is useless, and this contest is exactly what designer Khoi Vinh complained about in October [publish.com].
Slashdot, you're pretty much keeping yourself right on the same track. This is just as short-sighted as the original concept was, and I don't see anything changing drastically here in the near future. From the article on Publish.com:
Re:A redesign is more than skin deep (Score:5, Insightful)
Don't tell the folks at csszengarden.com [csszengarden.com].
Do My Job 2006: The Contest Continues (Score:5, Funny)
1. I send you a list of my job duties.
2. You do my job.
3. You give your results to me.
4. Of all applications, I choose the best to reward with a paltry fraction of my income in the form of a prize.
Thoughts from a profesional designer... (Score:3, Insightful)
Slashdot is a large site and could be a great portfolio piece. I will probably forward this info to my colleagues. Yet I don't think this contest properly geared toward the design process. That could result in a final site that isn't as successful as it could be.
For a high traffic site you really want something more then a shinny skin. You want someone to consider more then development and contemporary graphics. You want someone to who understands branding, interaction, typography, psychology, and other aspects of visual communication. Realistically, a small site for a paying client might need two weeks for sketches and or photoshop / illustrator comps, and an additional week for an interactive comp. For a non-paying client, I'd doubt that time frame.
Once again, I don't intend to sounds like a whiny SOB, and I'm sure someone will flame the hell out of this post, nevertheless there things the boys behind Slashdot could do to assure a better end result. At the very least, give the contest a 2 month deadline, and pass this information to organizations like the AIGA. You'll get a better selection of successful solutions.
BBC Reboot (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Not again (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Not again (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Not again (Score:3, Funny)
Every time you masturbate, God kills a spammer. Thanks for making the world a better place, slashdotters.
Re:Typical Slashdot (Score:3, Insightful)
Heh... you mean back to a site where submitters and users spell like the 12-year olds they are and where the readers actually *do* all the work without credit ? Well, hey - who cares about content as long as the design is all about ponies ?
Here it is. (Score:3, Insightful)
http://slashdot.cuteness.org/slashdot/slashdot_fo
Re:But where do you get the Coliseo font? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Where to start with Slashcode (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Where to start with Slashcode (Score:3, Informative)
If you use the firefox web developer toolbar [mozilla.org] you can edit the CSS right there and see it applied instantly. This also gives you the flexability to view other pages with your CSS.
Re:Where to start with Slashcode (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Bleeding-Edge Bootage (Score:5, Informative)
Re:The whole shebang. (Score:5, Informative)
I absolutely would consider a design with all 153 redone topic icons.
We have stylesheets already that target some minimal browsers. Look in your user preferences for the low bandwidth and simplified design options. These are CSS themes already in place. Designs absolutely can include mockups for alternate platforms, but the contest is really about the main view of the site... on a traditional web browser.
Re:The whole shebang. (Score:5, Informative)
Re:The whole shebang. (Score:3, Interesting)
Some other candidates (Score:3, Informative)
Hey, VA's had a story posted to it in 2004, that's hot news in comparison. I actually submitted a story there a while back, just for the hell of it ... (it was marginally relevant, it's crossposted to my journal). Didn't get accepted, but I thought it would be funny to have a gap of 5 years in the section list.
The most depressing section though, is ePlus [slashdot.org]. Last real article [slashdot.org] posted there was in
Re:The whole shebang. (Score:3)
This brings up a possible new feature for slash (Score:5, Interesting)
That way, I could go to my prefs, set my CSS to be http://www.example.com/my.css [example.com], and then slash would send me as the last stylesheet of any page served to me.
Re:The whole shebang. (Score:3)
I think a logged in page is a better place to start. Most logged in users are seeing tags now too. I'll see about adding more users to that tho.
Re:The whole shebang. (Score:4, Informative)
Re:The whole shebang. (Score:3)
Re:The whole shebang. (Score:5, Interesting)
However as always, patches are appreciated.
Re:...oh, redesign slashdot's style... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Unsavory (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:No offense CmdrTaco but... (Score:3, Insightful)
I rarely mention slashdot anymore to other people, and visit slashdot much less, and for less time, than I used to because of the lack of professionalism - how difficult is it to get story summeries right?
I'm not talking about simple typos, but story headlines / summeries which are just outright wrong.
Then there are the "dups"