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Comment: What is the point... (Score 2) 39

by aardvarkjoe (#49458529) Attached to: LG's Leather-Clad G4 Revealed In Leaked Images

I don't understand the fascination that tech news sites have with pictures of upcoming smartphones. Pretty much every standard smartphone looks exactly like every other damn smartphone on the planet -- a touchscreen with a bezel around it. The "interesting" part of this announcements is the color of the back of the phone -- which is the part that you're never looking at anyway.

Comment: Re:Systemic and widespread? (Score 1) 489

by aardvarkjoe (#49442105) Attached to: The Courage of Bystanders Who Press "Record"

Nope, I'm still not buying it. You haven't presented any compelling reason why those in authority should lose their human rights. If you want to introduce ways to make it easier to obtain that proof, I'm all for it, but those in authority should have all the rights that anyone else has. Dehumanizing a group of people is not the answer.

Who watches the watchmen? It has to be us. That means that making sure that the guilt of those who abuse their power -- as well as the innocence of those who don't -- is partly our responsibility.

Comment: Re:Systemic and widespread? (Score 1) 489

by aardvarkjoe (#49440773) Attached to: The Courage of Bystanders Who Press "Record"

Cops and politicians no. We have to hold them to a much higher standard if we are going to authorize the power we give them. The Sword of Damocles must hang over all their heads. We don't put a high enough price on power.

I vehemently disagree. Human rights, including the right to being presumed innocent until proven guilty, should not be waived because of someone's occupation.

The problem of guilt being difficult to prove is one that extends far beyond just police or politicians; it applies to anyone accused of committing a crime, and it means that we know that we allow some of those guilty of crimes, even heinous ones, to walk free. We have made a lot of progress in that area, and will continue to do so. It is appropriate to introduce new technology, procedures, or policies that can help make it more difficult for people to hide their guilt, but at the end of the day, a policeman is a man and deserves the same protections that you or I do.

Comment: Re:Systemic and widespread? (Score 1) 489

by aardvarkjoe (#49438187) Attached to: The Courage of Bystanders Who Press "Record"

Yes, and the rate at which other things occur, like cops being good, or flowers sprouting roadside is irrelevant.
All that is relevant is how often cops go bad. Not how often cops do good things or eat donuts or change underwear.

Assuming a finite number of cop-citizen interactions, the ratio of good-to-bad interactions is relevant to the rate at which bad interactions happen.

Comment: Re:Systemic and widespread? (Score 1) 489

by aardvarkjoe (#49437703) Attached to: The Courage of Bystanders Who Press "Record"

No, it isn't relevant. That's like countering a claim that poison ivy is systemic and widespread with "But look at all the pretty flowers! There must be hundreds of pretty flowers for each poison ivy plant!"

No, it's nothing like that. In a discussion of whether something is "systemic and widespread," the rate at which it occurs is relevant.

You said:

No matter what good things cops do, it can never justify police brutality and murder - at any ratio.

While true, that says absolutely nothing about whether or not something is "systemic and widespread." That is the definition of "irrelevant."

Comment: Re:Systemic and widespread? (Score 4, Insightful) 489

by aardvarkjoe (#49437283) Attached to: The Courage of Bystanders Who Press "Record"

500:1? If it were 5000:1 or even 50000:1 ratio of showing cops doing good deeds vs police butchers, it would still be irrelevant.

It is completely relevant to the question of whether it is "systemic and widespread," which was the thread of conversation that you're replying to.

Nobody has said that cops are justified in brutality and murder. They are, however, entitled to be innocent until proven guilty.

Comment: Re:Double the Outrage (Score 1) 92

by aardvarkjoe (#49435371) Attached to: AT&T Call Centers Sold Mobile Customer Information To Criminals

As usual, corporations are people right up until it's inconvenient, then they're an organization and can't be treated the same way as people are.

This has nothing to do with corporations. if you, as a private citizen, hire somebody to do a job, and they then commit a crime using your property, you will not be held responsible for that crime unless it turns out that you were complicit or negligent. AT&T should be held to exactly the same standard.

Comment: Re:Double the Outrage (Score 1) 92

by aardvarkjoe (#49435363) Attached to: AT&T Call Centers Sold Mobile Customer Information To Criminals

By hiring this outsourcer and giving them access my account, AT&T is giving their stamp of approval for this company to act on their behalf and be, for all intents and purposes, AT&T as far as the end customer is concerned. They are backing up the reputation of this company and quality of their work with their own brand identity.

It is a terrible idea to make an employer responsible for everything an employee does. It is the responsibility of the employer to have a level of diligence to protect their customers, through policies and actions, but that doesn't mean that they can predict and control everything that a human being will do.

The fact that a $25 million fine was imposed says that the government believed that the appropriate level of diligence was not taken, but I see nothing to suggest that the negligence was great enough to justify destroying the company like some people apparently want.

It's like if a buy a car and the automaker has issues from a part failing. It's ultimately the maker's (GM's) fault. Not the producer (some company in China) of the individual component.

Car analogies suck, but if the producer of said component got those components into the car by deceiving the automaker, then you bet it's that producer's fault, not GM's.

GM might be responsible for restitution (fixing the problem parts -- which they'd ultimately get the money for through legal action against the supplier), but it would be utterly inappropriate to levy huge punitive fines against them just because their supplier provided faulty parts.

Comment: Re:Double the Outrage (Score 2) 92

by aardvarkjoe (#49433031) Attached to: AT&T Call Centers Sold Mobile Customer Information To Criminals

1. Only $25M for that egregious violation??

AT&T didn't sell the info (the title of the article is false.) It was some people that were employed by their call centers that were engaged in the crime. You don't punish a company for hiring somebody who turns out to be a criminal. All they can be punished for is if the policies that allowed their employees to get that information were negligent.

Comment: Demonstrators (Score 2) 167

Tourists who joined a vehicle caravan out to the site at a school in Tularosa were greeted by demonstrators from the Tularosa Basin Downwinders who came to protest the 70th anniversary tour. The Downwinders is a grass-roots group that has set out to bring public awareness about the negative impacts of the detonation of the bomb.

So what do these demonstraters hope to accomplish? Are they going to protest hard enough to prevent the test from happening in 1945?

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