Smoke and Mirrors from Sony and Microsoft 581
An anonymous reader writes "History tells us: Don't believe what you're hearing about the Xbox 360 and the PlayStation 3.There was a lot of hype last week about the next generation of game machines. Microsoft said the Xbox 360 will ultimately reach 1 billion consumers worldwide, while Sony gave a laundry list of features for the PlayStation 3, showing some jaw dropping footage along the way. (Nintendo promised a Revolution, but didn't go much further than that.)
I hate to be a wet blanket, but it's time to come back to reality."
Can get better later (Score:5, Insightful)
Exception that proves the rule: (Score:2)
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Be warned though, the games have aged a little more than I remember. Although Yar's Revenge still rules.
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I can see that your efforts have paid off.
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Re:Can get better later (Score:5, Interesting)
In this 90%, they can be fairly wasteful with their choice of language and how tightly they bound their algorithms. (There are even game companies that write the bulk of this logic in LISP.) In the last 10% of code, performance is critical. This is the code that takes up 90% of the CPU and GPU to execute. This is the code that must be (and still is) carefully hand optimized, tuned, and tuned again.
However, this is all sort of moot because on current generation consoles, memory is at a huge premium. Most console developers will simply not touch STL (for example) with a 30 foot pole. The performance characteristics of the STL are not well known (in the specific sense), and neither are the memory requirements.
Don't kid yourself, it's still not the compiler writers that are making games more optimal during the life of a console. A simple example is GTA3 to GTA3: SA. It's not like the PS3 suddenly grew 3X the memory... And yet GTA3:SA is dramatically more rich in terms of both total content as well as content running at any given time. And although I'm too lazy to look up other examples to dispute your claim that games don't get better over the lifecycle of a console, rest assured there are a very large number.
Just to nitpick (Score:3, Interesting)
While that is technically true, I often see it become false anyway. Why? Because you can be _incredibly_ wasteful with that 90% of the code if y
Re:Just to nitpick (Score:3, Interesting)
This might be true in enterprise programming, but my point was specifically directed towards game programming, game programmers and game companies.
In game programming, you can be wasteful. Within the realms of viable solutions to the particular problem that you are solving at the time. Keep in mind that a game programmer would not consider using (for example) EJB to solve his scripting language problem.
Because unlike enterprise applications, time to execute is
Re:Can get better later (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Can get better later (Score:3, Funny)
If you are in a thread about the next generation of that specific console, and you decide to start posting, WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE TO ASSUME. He assumed that these people knew, BECAUSE THEY WERE WRITING FUCKING POSTS ABOUT IT, YOU MORON!
> if you're going to state hardware specs, state the facts.
He did state the facts, those facts included a typo. GET OVER IT.
Re:Can get better later (Score:3, Insightful)
Not exactly (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Can get better later (Score:3, Funny)
1 - 2 - 3
Perhaps you meant "dramatic improvement". A quantum leap is a value changing from one value to another without any intervening values. Turning on a light via a switch is a quantum leap, turning up the dimmer isn't (on human scale).
Re:Can get better later (Score:5, Funny)
yeah, but IMAGINE Nethack on a PS3 or Xbox360!
Instead of being restricted to ASCII, you could use their massive processing and graphics abilities to employ other characters- Greek, Cyrillic, Chinese, Arabic, Linear B, Egyptian heiroglyphs, cuneiform... plus different fonts, italics, bold, all crisp and anti-aliased... imagine that instead of a puny little "@" you're now an upper-case italic omicron in Times New Roman, dealing out death as hordes of Copperplate Gothic Boldface "Ü"s and Comic Sans "Ñ"s fly at you from all directions! That would just totally ROCK!!!
Re:Can get better later (Score:3, Funny)
OMG yes... the level where you're dressed as an albino weasel and you're swimming in a giant colon while Beethoven's Moonlight Sonatta plays as the level music...
I don't know what these guys were smoking, but they should share : )
Re:Can get better later (Score:3, Insightful)
Reality? (Score:5, Funny)
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Here's my reality... (Score:5, Interesting)
Since so many people these days are into spouting off basically unsubstantiated rumor and making it appear legit through our "new media outlets" I'll go ahead and state what *I* believe the console makers should do!
Enjoy.
You know what I want from gaming consoles? Something *new*. When I say *new* I don't mean hi-def resolutions, better sound, faster game play, or even high density storage mediums. When I say *new* I mean I want to see something I have never in my life seen before...
Problem is that we are stuck in a loop of the same rehashed cafeteria lunches with gaming. "Green beans" slopped on my tray is the same as "Emerald Pods". HL2 and Doom3 are the same as Wolf3D and various others.
It really disappoints me when I am thrilled with simple games like Ms. Pacman, Tetris, and Bejeweled variants yet I am extremely bored with "amazing and real life AI", "hi-def graphics", etc.
Gran Turismo 1 was the end all of racing games apparently as GT2, GT3, and now GT4 (and various other similar racing variants) have all been abysmal remakes of the original. I remember saying how revolutionary Quake1 was. Everything after has been bleh. I think I have made my point...
Sony and MSFT: You want to make me excited about a console? Give me some really incredible titles that are something new and exciting rather than just renamed and rehashed green beans. I guarantee that if you can impress me with some titles you can impress all the people and even those that believe that people like me are just ignoring the "important subtle differences between similar genres". You don't even have to have fancy pre-fab rendering, lifelike graphics, or tons of CPU horsepower. All you need is a new and revolutionary idea that makes me want to play it again and again and again. You won't even have to spend millions on hardware and software research.
Hopefully this will give you a few ideas of what to do. I'll be waiting...
Re:Here's my reality... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Here's my reality... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Here's my reality... (Score:2)
"Wake up, your dream is Nintendo." is basically the message.
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Re:Here's my reality... (Score:3, Interesting)
* Pikman
* Animal Crossing
* Super Monkey Ball (was first a gamecube game)
* Mario Tennis
* Mario Golf
* Mario Cart
* Metroid Prime
* Zelda: Windwaker
* Resident Evil 4
* Viewtiful Joe (Originally a Gamecube Exclusive)
True most of these are new takes on old ideas, but that's really the point of this thread, we're sick of the same take over and over and over again. It's not that we don't like FPS, it's just that they're in a rut, or that we don't l
Re:Here's my reality... (Score:2)
Let some small companies and opensource projects have a real go at the possibilities and see if they can't crank out something innovative. It could be the next killer app.
I think the PS3 is going to be significant
Re:Here's my reality... (Score:2)
Re:Here's my reality... (Score:2)
They don't want to make YOU excited about a console - They wanted to make the millions of MTV babies with all of their disposible income excited. These execs are just saying exactly what they need to say to make a gazillion dollars for their respective companies. This happens in every industry, I'm not sure why it's a surprise that it's happening to video games.
That's why they both hame cameras (Score:2)
To me the most intersting demo of all was the person from EyeToy where he manipulated virtual cups using real ones, filling them with water and pouring them out. It's sort of the next step in better physics models when we can affect the game world using real objects.
I'm not 100% sure the direction will pan out, but at least it's something kind of ne
Re:Here's my reality... (Score:5, Insightful)
I think Nintendo hears what you're saying, and tries to be creative in a lot of ways. That sort of gets overlooked, however, because they tend to then brand all of their ideas with their big franchises, Mario being the number one example. So the PS and Xbox fanboys rant about how 50% of the games available for the GC are just mario games, ignoring the fact that there's a whole lot of variety within the Mario universe.
I don't have anymore of an idea what Nintendo's big Revolution is going to be than any other random guy on the street, but I have found their games to be fairly consistently fresh and fun.
Couldn't agree more... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Here's my reality... (Score:3, Informative)
Also, many people look past the name "mario" or the hype of the "mature" look on another system, and look beneath...for gameplay. In my experience many games with "mario" in their name have really fun play mechanics and expand on the existing genre of that type.
Examples : Mario Power Tennis, upcoming Mario Soccer, Super Smash Bros, Mario Golf etc.
Nintendo finds a m
Re:Here's my reality... (Score:3, Insightful)
Lets see here. Focus on kids. Number of kids in the world growing. How is that ever dwindling?
Re:Here's my reality... (Score:3, Interesting)
"Suitable for all ages" does not equal "aimed at kids."
One might as well say that the real problem for Sony/Microsoft/etc. is that all their games FAIL to aim at kids. Why unecessarily limit your market like that?
If Nintendo can stay afloat financially until 2020, when all the GBA-toting kids of today are in THEIR twenties and have piles of disposable income (and I think they will survive until then), they're going to domina
Re:Here's my reality... (Score:3)
How old are you?
I'm 25 and I'd be a lot more intrested in playing a Mario game then some mindless shoot-em-up with tons of blood and gore. People in the game industry are immature. They think "adult" means "14 year old boy". 30 year olds want fun games that they can play with their kids.
Re:Here's my reality... (Score:2)
That they stop to get the pc titles turned into crap.
Please, someone give them a keyboard and mouse and have them taste what a fps is really about. I'm fed up with seing auto aim, horizontal layout of ennemis, waves of them walking straight toward you, huge weapons, MEGAHuge huds and microlevels, and ter-r-r-r-r-ible textures.
Go back!
Re:Here's my reality... (Score:2)
There is true variety out there, the DS does it for me, and it's great to pick
Seconded (Score:2)
These new consoles just don't have "it". They're incredibly powerful, but what will be done with that power? Exactly the same thing that was done with less power, last generation, only this time it'll be prettier and shinier.
The market has stagnated. There aren't many new game CONCEPTS, that are appealing, that seem to require the horsepower of the new concoles. Think about it:
Katamari Da
Re:Here's my reality... (Score:3, Insightful)
No, actually what you wrote has nothing to do with consoles. What you want are more innovative and quality games. I do want my consoles to have hi-def, better sounds, new features. You don't need to write a letter to Sony and Microsoft because (for the most part) they don't make games. You can write a letter to Nintendo because they still make a lot of games. And yes, there are innovative games on the PS2 like Katamari Damacy. But with genre
Re:Here's my reality... (Score:3, Insightful)
Well, don't expect a new console to bring it to you. Quake is a rare example of a game that was revolutionary because of hardware. The rather basic concept behind Quake had been running around for years, and the hardware finally caught up. But
Re:Here's my reality... (Score:2)
We prefer to refer to it as "Ownage Ball" though.
Why not though? (Score:3, Insightful)
I think it is completely wrong of them to use pre-rendered images, and say it is actual gameplay footage (killzone, anyone?), but I can't imagine that this early on the developers have even gotten close to figuring out the nuances of the systems.
It all comes down to the games. If a console has powers like a supercomputer, it still won't be fun if the games are terrible.
You don't play the hardware in the console, you play the games. That's all there is to it.
This isn't a troll, but... (Score:3, Insightful)
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As a huge fan of both consoles and PCs, they both have their place. I would never try to play an FPS on a console. I tried getting along with it for months with Halo 2, but it was like trying to ride a monkey instead of a horse. It's just not meant to be. I also would never want the "latest and greatest" cutting edge game to be on the console - why? Because the graphics aren't going to look nearly as good - how can they, when the video card is about 3 or 4 years old?
Making blanket statements isn't going to work. Consoles do some things well, PCs do some things well. Until I can treat a console like a PC (ie: hook it up to an extremely high resolution monitor and have the option to use a keyboard and mouse), for me, it's going to be my second choice system. With that said, trying to have all my friends huddle around my monitor as we play Double Dash isn't going to work either. There's certain pros and cons to each, and it's up to the individual to decide what they like more - high powered FPS games with input devices that allow for much higher response times, or something that always "just works", can be played with tons of friends, everyone sitting around the living room drinking some beers.
Differnet types of games and uses. (Score:3, Informative)
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Well personally, I'd never buy a console. One, games are tertiary to me, and were, even when I was a kid. And while I do enjoy the occasional FPS (Halflife and its decendants, especially), my favorite genres of games are 4X and wargames, followed by adventure games (which have lamentably disappeared over the past 10 years.) Civilzation I,II, & II
Re:This isn't a troll, but... (Score:2)
I can't hook my PC to my surround sound stereo system or my HDTV. I can't lounge on my sofa using a controller from my PC either. I have to hunch over a keyboard, mouse, and a flat surface for the mouse and a monitor for my PC.
So playing a shooter, or a puzzle game works better on the console. It's more enjoyable.
But playing something that requires a lot of type, or fine cursor control, work better on the computer. For example, The Sims (lots of mouse
Re:This isn't a troll, but... (Score:2)
That's slowly changing, though.
With a simple piece of shelf-board for a keyboard & mouse, I have the DVI video of my Mac mini hooked up the the HDMI input of my high-def projector, and a USB-TOSLink adapter to provide surround sound when watching movies and HDTV. Not only has
Re:This isn't a troll, but... (Score:2)
Remember, there's still a fairly significant gap between "fairly modern PC" and "gaming PC" -- at least for the latest and greatest games.
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Now given a choice of a system to buy a game for, pc gets precidence because it can be patched, usually made to look better, has free multiplayer, and is usually moded. The next rank is the xbox because it has a hard drive and tends to move a little quicker. Next is ps2 cause it's controler is a little bi
Because the writing is on the wall (Score:2)
The PC game market is still OK but what company is going to escape the lure of a far larger market with far fewer support hassles?
You can already hook keyboards and mice to consoles. For a while now PC gaming is going to be console hand-me-downs, and it's not going to take long to happen once the next-gen consoles are out.
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With consoles, the specifications of the console are well-known, and good games are optimized to make use of exactly as much power and features as is present. Additionally, unlike PC games, the games can be designed with better assumptions about the controller (although as a plus for the PC, a mouse+keyboar
Re:This isn't a troll, but... (Score:2)
Upgrade Hell - Re:This isn't a troll, but... (Score:3, Insightful)
And I'm sick to death of it.
My copy of Tomb Raide
HYPE (Score:2, Insightful)
That is the beauty in smoke and mirrors.
Indeed. And don't forget... (Score:5, Informative)
Seems like they'd have prototypes at least stable enough to demo at the premier gaming and entertainment show of the year for something that's supposed to ship in less than a couple quarters...
In fact, I can't believe that TIME and all of the huge mainstream coverage that Xbox 360 has gotten hasn't mentioned this. All many of the articles say is that the Xbox 360 is using "a processor from IBM", something likely to not raise most anyone's eyebrows.
But to not mention that Microsoft's multi-billion dollar entry into the next generation of console gaming, heavily watched by many investors and financial sectors, uses the processor family that *Macs* have used since 1994, and most closely related to Apple's current computers, so closely, in fact, that their own Xbox 360 development and demos runs directly on Power Macs? I mean, yeah, I realize that Microsoft or anyone using the best processor architecture for a particular application isn't news; but Microsoft using *Macs* to develop AND demo their next generation console isn't worth a mention to anyone but C|Net?
Other mentions (Score:2)
Personally, this is the part of the "next generation" console battle I'm curious about. A big deal was made about how badly Doom 3 performed when it was ported to OS X, of which there are two main reasons used to explain the issue:
Video card drives
Porting from the Intel to the PPC architecture
Basically, because the system was optimized for the x86 processor line, several "hacks" had to be used to get it comperable to the PPC. That's not saying "Intel good, G5 b
Re:Other mentions (Score:2)
Re:Indeed. And don't forget... (Score:2)
Re:Indeed. And don't forget... (Score:3, Insightful)
That wasn't really anywhere near the point I was trying to make, but ok.
And your quote is what the Microsoft spokesperson said, not what C|Net said. The "very specific hardware" is the fucking G5 processor, the goddamned heart of the Mac. No, I'm not saying they should have built their own reference platform and OS just to do Xbox 360 R&D, but this is a Big Deal, even if only for the irony.
And yes, it is "shocking" that all development, R&D, and demos for Microsoft's premier next generation ga
Re:Indeed. And don't forget... (Score:5, Insightful)
Look, Dave, we all know you're the world's biggest Apple fanboy, so if it gets you excited that the Xbox 360 uses an IBM processor from the same family as the one in the G5, that's great. Seriously, why does the rest of the world care? Apple doesn't make the processors in Macs, nor does Microsoft make the processors in PCs.
Is it ironic? I guess so, but I'm not sure it's quite the watershed moment you think it is. MS went with the company that could give them the fastest multicore processor for the least money. It was IBM. The only major company using those processors is Apple. So they used Apples to develop on. End of story.
Why does everything to be some kind of schlongs-and-rulers war with Mac types?
Nobody uses Intel any more (Score:3, Interesting)
Which is one reason why I find the suggestion that Apple will be switching to Intel CPU's laughable.
On the other hand, this could be a prelude to Microsoft switching to PowerP
Verging on plagiarism (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Verging on plagiarism (Score:2)
Smoke and mirrors? Bring it on! (Score:3, Interesting)
Hype, Hype, and More Hype (Score:4, Interesting)
But it's JUST a new console.
I saw the MTV Xbox 360 launch tv show and was amazed at how they hyped this thing up to be, gosh darn it, the next best thing since loosing my virginity. I mean, the one shot where they first reveal it to a crowd of screaming geeks, and it's up on a platform above the crowd, lit from above... that shot was nearly identical to the scene of the Jews worshiping the Golden Calf from Moses. I intoned to my husband, "We worship our new god! We worship our new god!" as the crowd screamed... he laughed, I didn't. It just pushed my awareness of hype from beyond "silly yet trying to get publicity" to "serously wierding me out".
I mean, it's just a game console. It will be a good game console. But in five years time, there will be a new game console to replace it. And so on in another five years. Technology marches on and we will continously be updating our consoles. This one is JUST a game console, heck, it won't even give me a hand job. Now if it came with a vibrator attachment... maybe I'd call it a revolution....
But seriously, game companies, lay off the insane hype. It's just a game console.
Re:Hype, Hype, and More Hype (Score:2)
Arg LOW UID BREAKING MY BRAIN!
Re:Hype, Hype, and More Hype (Score:2)
Five digits is where its at. Registering didn't really get you anything at first except for yet another online name/password to track. So all those four digit guys are just putzes. I registered when it got me something (customization of content).
Yeah. I'm not jealous.
Re:Hype, Hype, and More Hype (Score:4, Funny)
Sorry, you just lost the
Hype is fun. (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm waiting for the games that are coming out, not just the console itself. I wasn't jazzed about the PS2 particularly,until I saw games I liked for it.
the MGS4 trailer has me hot in the pants.
Re:Hype is fun. (Score:2)
News Flash! (Score:2)
In our next report, we will demonstrate that political candidates from both parties often fail to keep their campaign promises. We're pretty sure this one will knock your socks off as well.
And to recap.... (Score:2)
not to be an whiny guy (Score:3, Insightful)
A billion isn't unreasonable (Score:2)
Reporting Games (Score:5, Insightful)
FTFA:
"It's not hard to forgive the hardware publishers for a little bit of hyperbole at E3, the annual trade show of the video game industry. It is, after all, their moment in the sun. But now that the crowds have gone home and the booth babes have changed back into street clothes, it's time to recognize that a fair number of the promises made last week will quietly fade away."
The best time to report critical insights, especially those counter to PR claims, is during the "moment in the sun". When everyone's paying attention. Otherwise, reporting is a footnote, and the PR floods the media. Result: most people believe the unopposed PR. Gaming coverage has been improving, as competition heats up in a bigger market of people with competing interests, not just gaming.
To see how badly "reporting" can go wrong, just look at the synthetic world of national and international affairs in the mass media, rarely insightful, and totally distorted in representing reality. With games becoming ever more realistic, and reality ever more bent to our imaginations, it's ironic that reporting on reality becoming more of a fantasy game, while gaming reporting becomes more realistic.
For the benefit... (Score:5, Informative)
Here [games-digest.com] is an article where the chief financial officer of nVidia confirms that the supposedly "in-game" footage from the new PS3 is a load of cobblers, cos the RSX chip isn't finished yet and doesn't exist in a workable form.
Sigh... it's the emotion engine/missile guidance systems all over again.
Re:For the benefit... (Score:2)
One could imply the following two points. One, that current nVidia hardware is capable of rendering those images. Two, the "in-game engine", without the benefit of massive 3D accelleration, was capable of doing those visuals without RSX. Do
Precisely Not (Score:3, Informative)
No, the specific quote from the article is "Burkett has commented that the visuals had been created on current nVidia hardware of roughly the same power as the RSX." That is, they don't have the RSX done, but they have hardware that's more or less equivalent to the specification in some form (maybe not on a single chip or card).
Journalistic filler (Score:2)
Look that former two generations of console unveilings vs gameplay post-release. Imply trend will continue.
This guy got paid for that? Where the fuck do I sign up for that job?
I just don't get it. (Score:2)
Now I'm not trying to bash them or anything, but maybe not as many people would loathe them if they just started managing their PR a little better.
Its like some vacuum salesman (a younger guy) started off tr
Moore's Law (Score:2)
Okay, enough already (Score:2)
EVERYONE over-hypes their product during a show like that. I expected some world-shocking revelation, but this is largely a prediction that things aren't going to be as claimed during the show based on how things came along with previous models. Whoop-tee-fucking-do.
Now, if Microsoft had demoed the XBox as if it was all ready to be shipped, bu
I have a problem with the Hi-Def "evidence" (Score:2)
True, only a few games offer 1080i or 720p... But there are multiple standards for HDTV (Not just 1080i), and the games have all look damn good in widescreen HDTV on the XBox. Halo 2 in 480p (which no standard analog telivision offers) looks quite nice.
I'm no expert HDTV, gaming, or hardware... but clearly neither is this guy... Though the overall point he makes is valid, he shouldn't blame it al
Plaigarism (Score:2)
No he/she didn't...that's cut-and-pasted from the article. Credit where it's due.
Marketing is where the creativity is... (Score:2)
Of course, claiming that vN+1 will do what you promised vN would do also works pretty well.
Well, it's XBox 1.5 anyway, but what about Cell? (Score:3, Insightful)
The interesting one is the PS3 both in terms of the Cell and the BluRay. Now that's some real new toys. Obviously BluRay sounds rad especially since it's meant to be writeable from day one. That's a welcome change in the optical market. But what about the Cell?
Just in the last day or so there was a blurb on the Cell and Open Source over at the EETimes. Of course the announcement about opening the specs is great and welcome and exciting. But at the same time there were some things that didn't sound too hot. Or more accurately, sounded a bit too hot and power hungry.
I was excited about that new AMD Geode running at 500Mhz at one freakin watt. Now that is the kind of thing that I see as exciting. Sure, one of them might be nothing, but at one watt you could have eighty of those things running instead of a single Cell running at 3.2Ghz.
And although they said the Cell could be clocked beyond 3.2Ghz, the EETimes seemed to be suggesting that it couldn't be configured to run that fast and still be air coooled. Whoa, that doesn't sound so good.
I'd say these kinds of issues that we're seeing in the PC market about power consumption at these ultra high clock speeds are going to be the same for games. These seem to be limits to CMOS manufacturing, not some vendo specific limitations.
If that's the case, then the CNNMoney article is probably quite correct that there's going to be some disappointment in the cards. A nice little warm-up for the Longhorn debut.
Game Industry Identity Crisis... (Score:5, Interesting)
So, we have the PS3 which isn't a game machine but just happens to play games.
The X-Box 360, which is touted as a media center that plays games.
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The Revolution, the console that Nintendo company big wigs say is designed to play games, games, and more games. In fact, 5 generations of games all under one roof, most of which will be instantly accessible over the internet at little or, in some cases, no cost.
I don't know, I've got media center and powerful computer covered. I have a 7 disc DVD changer, so no console is going to replace that. I have a ReplayTV. I also have a stereo that I stream audio from my computer and the internet to, so I can't see myself using any of the music functions on any of these consoles. What I want, to complement all of this, is a game console. Do Sony and MS actually expect me to toss out my entire entertainment system to replace it with their all in one box? Heck no...I don't want to pay extra cash for things I already have.
Looks like I'm going to be buying the Revolution this time around, the only console without an inflated price and an identity crisis.
Re:Game Industry Identity Crisis... (Score:3, Insightful)
And the only console we know absolutely nothing about. Oh wow, it can emulate previous game titles? Show it to me! You can't, because it doesn't exist yet. Seriously, it is ludicrous to be picking a console before you know what games are going to be on it and how well it will perform. You are just a Nintendo fanboy spouting the same garbage every other fanboy is. You t
Re:Game Industry Identity Crisis... (Score:4, Insightful)
Given the stupid curved sufaces on both the new Xbox and the PS3, the answer would appear to be yes.
Re:I've said it several times .. (Score:2)
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Re:Back to life (Score:3, Funny)
Dwayne Dibbly? Oh thanks for reminding me!
Re:Santa Clause (Score:5, Funny)
This is Slashdot, my friend.. the higher up the UID's go, the more likely there are lots of pre-teens and teens.. many of which require you to preface your comment with *SPOILER*. Poor kids.
SSX Tricky and Pressure Sensitive Buttons (Score:2)
On the flip side of the capability coin, the pressure sensitive buttons are capable of reporting 256 levels of pressure (8 bits), and are actually analog pressure buttons. They work like this:
"Each button has a tiny curved disk attached to its bottom. This disk is ver
a billion people can afford a console? (Score:5, Interesting)