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Warchalking Visual Cues To Urban WLANs

Posted by chrisd on Tue Jun 25, 2002 02:17 PM
from the making-internet-cafes-obsolete dept.
elucidus writes "Matt Jones has put out a PDF and EPS outlining symbols to use in Warchalking the WLAN nodes of your community. Here's a pic. Ben Hammersly dubs them Hobo Runes." Brings to mind pictures of scruffy individuals around a fire with picturebooks, taking a pull from some ripple while reading slashdot.
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  • by Sabalon (1684) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:19PM (#3764389)
    Seems easier than trying to make out SSID's that are half washed away.

    Choose the "reconfigure" option and go!
  • The IT professionals among us are rightly concerned about software security implementations, especially from a well-known company in Washington State [microsoft.com]. The even more knowledgeable are concerned about the protocols themselves. This concern is 10 times greater when the network data is whizzing through the air for anyone to intercept. Luckily I've had an idea that may prove fruitful as a first line of defense against tactics such as war hacking and driving.

    Despite the catchy slogan, sometimes obscurity can provide a small measure of security. The first step in securing wireless networks should be making the transmissions uninterceptable by hackers. Therefore I would like to invoke the concept of "guided wavefronts". What you do is you provide a contained medium that is impervious to casual break-ins within which the signal can propagate.

    The scheme could prove bulky, so I propose that the contained medium should be made of some material that will conduct an electric charge quite well, such as metal. If this is done I suspect the guided wavefront containers could be made as small as 1/8"-1/4" in diameter. Also, there will be a certain amount of secondary leakage because of electromagnetic radiation produced by the contained signal, but making the container out of some kind of shielding matter would solve this issue.

    I haven't seen anything like this concept on the market but it seems like a good idea. How come nobody is working on it?

  • Linked picture (Score:5, Funny)

    by Migrant Programmer (19727) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:23PM (#3764405) Journal
    What is that supposed to mean?

    "Breast viewing permitted from 1-5 pm only"
    "Caution, cleavage overhead"
  • by Sabalon (1684) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:23PM (#3764408)
    I don't know to laugh or be afraid of this one:
    http://www.tackamarks.freeservers.com/ [freeservers.com] - how street signs tell the military what resources are where.
    • Re:And look what they are doing to streetsigns by Anonymous Cowtard (Score:1) Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:26PM
    • Re:And look what they are doing to streetsigns by RatBastard (Score:1) Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:27PM
    • Re:And look what they are doing to streetsigns by johnalex (Score:1) Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:35PM
    • Re:And look what they are doing to streetsigns by nathanm (Score:2) Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:41PM
    • Heh, laugh (Score:5, Interesting)

      by DG (989) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @03:19PM (#3764714) Homepage Journal
      My job - before I retired - in the Canadian Army was armoured recce. We were the guys who went out in advance of the main troop body, looking for the bad guys so that the good guys with big guns could come kill them.

      One of our other jobs was to survey routes and determine their suitability for passing military traffic. We would prepare "route reports" that would indicate widths, overhead clearences, the strength of the road surface (tanks chew up roads pretty quickly) and how much weight bridges could carry (we were taught techniques for inspecting bridges and making guesses as to how much weight they would hold.)

      Certain types of "resources" would be noted on the reports, but they tended to be things like "gravel pit here" (for repairing roads torn up by tanks) or "harbour site here" (a good place to park vehicles off the route)

      If anybody were to know about "secret peacekeeper sign codes" it would be us - and I can state categorically that there is no such thing.

      There ARE some military signs around, but in North America they are temporary, not permenent. If you see a sign with a card suit on it, and an arrow (or sometimes a unit patch) that is a convoy route mark sign. It helps keep the poor non-recce types from getting lost while moving from one place to another, and they are removed once the convoy is complete.

      In Europe, you'll see a lot of "bridge classification" signs that will have a tank, and a number, and possibly a truck, and a number. The number is the number of tons the bridge will support, the tank represents "tracked vehicles" and the truck represents "wheeled vehicles"

      But these guys are absolute loons.

      Feel free to laugh.

      DG
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      • Re:Heh, laugh by pa-guy (Score:1) Tuesday June 25 2002, @03:39PM
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  • bah (Score:1)

    by nomadic (141991) <nomadicworld@gmail . c om> on Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:23PM (#3764409) Homepage
    I was trying to think up something suitably acerbic to say, but I can't. That's a damn slick idea, and I salute him.
  • by lionchild (581331) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:24PM (#3764417) Journal
    So, won't it be interesting to look out your window and find one of these runes on the side of the building across the street...say, a rival company? There they are, broadcasting their secrets to the world. How convenient, you can just login from the window near your desk.

    Hmmm...that reminds me...I should go check our Wireless configuration.
  • How Times Change (Score:5, Interesting)

    by johnalex (147270) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:26PM (#3764430) Homepage

    During the Depression, hoboes used signs to signal where they could get a meal. Nowadays, geeks use signs to signal where we can get a decent 'Net connection. We're hungry, but we're informed.

    Who cares about eating as long as I get my /. fix.

  • Interesting Idea (Score:4, Interesting)

    by someone247356 (255644) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:28PM (#3764447)
    If I was in charge of my company's networking I'ld be keeping an eye out for interesting chalk marks around my building....

  • Gasp! (Score:1)

    by ackthpt (218170) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:29PM (#3764453) Homepage Journal
    Brings to mind pictures of scruffy individuals around a fire with picturebooks, taking a pull from some ripple while reading slashdot.

    I was so shocked by this insinuation that I nearly dropped a handfull of beans!

    Next Battleground: Freedom of Speech! Do I have the right to shout on a crowded street, 'Kynance, open node, 1-5' ?

  • Oh great... (Score:5, Funny)

    by InnereNacht (529021) <paulp@lappensecurity.com> on Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:29PM (#3764454)
    Before you know it some poor geek is going to get beat down in urban Chicago by a gang because they think he's marking their "turf".
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  • by lingqi (577227) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:32PM (#3764474) Journal
    Reading this gives a nostalgic feeling of Lain...

    kinda like when the wired and the "real world" is being blended together.

    which, really, it's true. in a can-be-very-helpful-but-still-somewhat-creepy kind of way.
  • What's next? (Score:5, Funny)

    by hprotagonist0 (312387) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:35PM (#3764482)
    Wardriving,
    Warwalking
    Warchalking...


    Warhopscotch
    Warsitting
    Wardrinking (If there's a glass with a coaster on top of it on the bar, there's an open WLAN)
    WarSegwaying
    Wargeocaching [geocaching.com]
  • Dude, spell my damn name right! :-) (Score:5, Insightful)

    by BenHmm (90784) <ben AT benhammersley DOT com> on Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:40PM (#3764501) Homepage

    As Matt's server screams in the dark London night, you could spell my name right...HammerslEy

    Anyhow, the pic on Matt's site shows the rune to my wireless node [benhammersley.com]. It's in Kensington, just round the corner from Imperial College. A T1. Help yourself.

  • Warchalking? (Score:1, Flamebait)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:44PM (#3764535)
    Why make a new word when "vandalism" already describes this activity?
  • Slash dotted (Score:4, Funny)

    by Target Drone (546651) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:47PM (#3764544)
    Somebody should go down to O'Reilly and draw the warchalk symbol for a slash dotted node on their building.
    • Re:Slash dotted by littleRedFriend (Score:1) Tuesday June 25 2002, @05:57PM
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  • by The Other White Meat (59114) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @03:07PM (#3764650)
    Why not just use the WiFi Logo? All these open, closed circles, ssids etc, is too confusing.

    (WiFi Logo Here)
    www.domain.com/wifi


    If you saw this on the side of a building, you should have enough to go on. If that site wants you to use their system, then the URL would point to a page telling you everything you need to know to share their system.

  • Theft of services? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 25 2002, @03:08PM (#3764655)
    Amazing. 48 comments as of this post and no one has yet commented on the obvious: that these signs are nothing more than telling people where they can steal free bandwidth.

    Isn't anybody worried about a "tragedy of the commons" effect here? One or two people chancing upon an open WiFi link is one thing, but a systematic method of exploiting bandwith amounts to a denial of service attack upon the poor network that's targeted.

    This is F***ing ridiculous. Go buy your OWN damn access and stop taking others' just because you can.
  • How Long Until... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Transient0 (175617) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @03:08PM (#3764659) Homepage
    ...some PHB who can't stop these marks from appearing gets scared of having their files stolen by little geeks with butterfly nets outside the building, but who's too cheap to hire the talent or buy the hardware to secure their wireless network, starts telling his cronies to go out on their lunch break and draw these symbols up everywhere, thus negating their effectiveness.

    Sort of a chaff-defence, but i'm pretty sure it would work...
  • by Saint Aardvark (159009) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @03:09PM (#3764662) Homepage Journal
    I used to live right by there. I lived in London for two years 9'92-'94) and I lived at #17 Queens Gate Gardens, SW7. I checked streetmap.co.uk to make sure I was remembering it right, and yeah. I used to walk by there; I don't remember P'tite Delice, but it may be new.

    Nice neighbourhood, and embassies every six feet. The Kuwaiti and the Iraqi embassies were just down the street from each other on Queen's Gate and about a block away from each other. A friend of mine used to go to Imperial College during the Gulf War and said it was a pretty interesting street...

  • SSID (Score:3, Funny)

    by b1t r0t (216468) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @03:10PM (#3764667)
    Won't the lusers unintentionally running wide-open nodes get suspicious when they see a chalk mark outside that says "LINKSYS )("?
    • Re:SSID by _Sprocket_ (Score:2) Tuesday June 25 2002, @03:28PM
    • Re:SSID by Refrag (Score:2) Wednesday June 26 2002, @05:31PM
      • Re:SSID by Megane (Score:1) Saturday June 29 2002, @09:03AM
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  • More Permanant than Chalk? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by RollyGuy (24873) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @03:18PM (#3764706)
    It seems that this is an interesting idea, but lacking in usability. There are two major problems as I see it.

    1.) The chalk will be easily washed away, and the location lost. (not to mention they warn the local network administrators)

    2.) You have to just walk around and randomly find one of these markings.

    A better solution would be somewhere online that warchalkers could upload locations (GPS maybe) and then you could easily find the access point nearest you.

    - RG
    ==================
    Don't pet the burning dog
  • What the fuck? (Score:1)

    by cca93014 (466820) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @03:21PM (#3764721) Homepage
    I'm sorry, I live in London. That picture is in London. But what the fuck are you talking about?

    Is this some annoying "west coast" bollocks again or what?
  • The IBM fiasco (Score:3, Insightful)

    Remember when IBM was hauled into court for marking up city sidewalks with the love/peace/linux thing?

    Now we'll see love/peace/linux/<802.11b info>.

    Free lov^M^M^MBandwidth for all!

    -Pete
  • wow. (Score:2, Funny)

    by evilpaul13 (181626) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @03:47PM (#3764887)
    taking a pull from some ripple while reading slashdot

    boy does that bring back memories!
  • WEP node (Score:1)

    by chipotle_pickle (541351) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @04:23PM (#3765168) Journal
    Sorry to be the only one not to know what a WEP node is. Anyone care to help out?
    • Re:WEP node by 00_NOP (Score:2) Tuesday June 25 2002, @04:45PM
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  • by Ed Avis (5917) <ed@membled.com> on Tuesday June 25 2002, @04:26PM (#3765196) Homepage
    Oh great, go around drawing on bits of other people's walls so it becomes a bit easier to leech off some third person's network connection.

    If these people are so technically clued-up, why not use computers to do the work? Store the geographical information in a file and download it to your machine once a week or so. Then either use GPS or just type in the street name.
  • Wha?? (Score:1)

    by WhiteKnight07 (521975) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @04:36PM (#3765264)
    Ok, according to the PDF the number below the symbol is supposed to be the ammount of bandwidth the node in question has. So, just how many kbps is "1*5"?
    • Re:Wha?? by TitaniumFox (Score:1) Tuesday June 25 2002, @06:08PM
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  • I am a bit annoied by this... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by 00_NOP (559413) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @04:51PM (#3765401) Homepage
    ...because I am one of those people trying to seriously encourage community wireless [consume.net] and if that activity is seen to be some sort of cracker plot it will be damaged.

    I want the local computer users near me to buy wireless cards and log into my node, they aren't going to buy the cards if they think somebody is going to use them to steal their data.
  • Great (Score:1)

    by Whatever Fits (262060) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @04:55PM (#3765427) Homepage Journal
    Now they'll make it illegal for anyone under 18 to buy chalk too!

  • by limbop (201955) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @05:50PM (#3765714)
    Vampire markings, safe houses, blood banks etc. Will we be seeing people going around with their WiFi card make and model on the back of their necks?

    limbo.
  • YES!!!! (Score:1)

    by Satanboy (253169) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @05:56PM (#3765745)
    this is exactly something I was thinking about doing!

    I already have one place to warchalk, and its gonna get bigger as time goes by. YAY, I finally have a reason to buy a nice wi-fi card
    hee hee hee

    --whats a sig file?-- >:-}
  • by FortKnox (169099) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:27PM (#3764438) Homepage Journal
    Bank! Pray tell. Did you know these poor cash machines?!? [yahoo.com]
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  • by bheerssen (534014) <bheerssen@gmail.com> on Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:52PM (#3764586) Homepage
    And the judge said "So let me get this straight, you were arrested for geek graffitti?"
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  • Re:In a few thousand years... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by ackthpt (218170) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @02:52PM (#3764592) Homepage Journal
    People will find these markings, and conclude that some energy force drew people to these locations, and thus they were sites of great power!

    'Were' being the word, here. I.e. they were open, they were visited, some exciting thing happened and their obit was printed on the front page of the Wall Street Journal. Probably not so dramatic, but imagine someone doing a drive-by of Arthur Andersen or Enron and pilfering a few online documents...

    You're concept also gives me pause to think about all the nuts who hang around old ruins in the world, e.g. Stonehenge, and feel there's some great power eminating from them... most likely they're markers of where (political) power was concentrated and is all used up by now. Ah, well, if they weren't oohing and ahhing and buying into some cult they'd probably be sending spam, too.

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  • by dattaway (3088) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @03:47PM (#3764893) Homepage
    Epoxy type paint works best. Very durable, resists solvents, and the pressure washer.
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  • by ahaning (108463) on Tuesday June 25 2002, @07:54PM (#3766205) Homepage Journal
    I think we all know that this would be a very bad thing to do.

    Also, don't think that if you get "spray chalk" that it will actually wash away. I know that OSU students are probably familiar (Woohoo! ALTERNATIVE thingy on May 18th!) with this. Some of our Undergrad Student Government candidates spray chalked the sidewalks asking people to vote for them. The elections are long over and still, the plea remains. I think they won, so they don't look like *complete* idiots.
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  • by foetus (588315) on Wednesday June 26 2002, @03:49AM (#3767734)
    Hell, automate the process:
    http://www.core77.com/reactor/tagmaster.html [core77.com]

    Okay, not actually. Neat toy, but I'm all for impermanence in this case. Someone already pointed out the transient nature of nodes, and you don't want the tag outlasting its validity.
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