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Fake Light Sabers Making Real Cash

Posted by michael on Sun Jun 16, 2002 11:29 AM
from the enlarge-your-schwartz-now dept.
jdedman4 writes "The fanfare over Episode II brings with it absurdist prequel theories as well as this article from the Houston Chronicle detailing one fan-enterpreneur's success. In eight years, Forney, Texas resident Jeff Parks has made himself a millionaire by making customized light sabers for collectors. "My goal is to be the best light saber designer in the world," quips Parks."
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  • How is he surviving? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Tim_F (12524) on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:31AM (#3711129)
    Doesn't he have to be a licensed Star Wars toy distributor?
    • Re:How is he surviving? by two_stripe (Score:3) Sunday June 16 2002, @11:32AM
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    • Re:How is he surviving? by alen (Score:2) Sunday June 16 2002, @11:35AM
    • From the article by mericet (Score:2) Sunday June 16 2002, @11:38AM
    • Re:How is he surviving? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by joshv (13017) on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:41AM (#3711178)
      Doesn't he have to be a licensed Star Wars toy distributor?

      I imagine as long as he does not use any LucasFilm trademarks he is ok. My guess is that Lucas never bothered to trademark the lightsaber. Even if they did, on his web site Parks never refers to Star Wars, or the word "Light Saber" - it's just a "Parks Saber".

      I would also guess that this product is high end and niche enough that it does not directly compete with any officially licensed products. So it's unlike that LucasFilm would try to pursue the issue legally.

      -josh
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    • duh.. (Score:5, Funny)

      by swoopx (239798) on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:41AM (#3711179)
      *waves hand*
      "This isn't the company you're looking to sue"
      "move along lucas"
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      • ~chuckle~ by Mulletproof (Score:2) Sunday June 16 2002, @11:50AM
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      • Only the weak minded. by autopr0n (Score:2) Sunday June 16 2002, @03:03PM
      • Re:duh.. by kiahale (Score:1) Sunday June 16 2002, @01:38PM
        • Re:duh.. by rifter (Score:1) Monday June 17 2002, @12:29AM
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    • British lightsabers (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Mulletproof (513805) on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:43AM (#3711190) Homepage Journal
      An interesting note on lightsabers; They are actually flash handles [lightsaberreplicas.com] from 1940s press cameras. What bearing that has on copywrites, I'm not sure, but I think it'd be hard to licence a garage sale part for your movie, personally. Maybe this guy's calling them "lite sabers". Of course, you see dozens of toy replicas made in Mexico in any toy store... "Galactic Laser Swords inc." If you can get away with that level of duplication, then it can't be too hard for this guy. More power to him. Now he just needs to make a working one ^__^ "Batteries not included"
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    • Re:How is he surviving? by Lord Azrael (Score:1) Sunday June 16 2002, @11:50AM
    • Re:How is he surviving? by Jafafa Hots (Score:1) Sunday June 16 2002, @08:25PM
    • Re:How is he surviving? by bubkus_jones (Score:2) Sunday June 16 2002, @10:34PM
  • Geocities... (Score:1)

    by Jormundgard (260749) on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:34AM (#3711139)
    Dear Lord, did Slashdot really link a Geocities site?
  • feh (Score:2, Funny)

    by Highlordexecutioner (203297) on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:35AM (#3711148) Homepage
    Yeah they are cool looking and all, but if they dont make the sound whats the point.
  • Shooting High (Score:4, Funny)

    by donnacha (161610) on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:36AM (#3711152) Homepage

    "My goal is to be the best light saber designer in the world," he said.
    Wow, lofty ambition what with all the competition out there.
  • NEWS FLASH! (Score:5, Funny)

    by ziggles (246540) on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:37AM (#3711159) Homepage
    Supply and Demand continues to be an economic principle!
  • Strong in the Force... (Score:2, Funny)

    by LordYUK (552359) <jeffwright821@@@yahoo...com> on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:38AM (#3711168)
    ...but not strong enough to withstand a slashdotting!
  • He makes the most kickass lightsabers out of plumbing stuff from the hardware store. I remember one of them used a shower head...

    As far as I know he doesn't go out looking to sell them but when he had a few and he was showing them off someone went up to him and bought one anyway..

    Tim
  • by razablade (118107) on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:40AM (#3711176)
    running around the streets with their new lightsabers.

  • absurdist prequel theories (Score:3, Funny)

    by jaeson (563206) on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:40AM (#3711177) Homepage
    Ahhhh the slashdot effect. Crushing absurdist prequel theories' web sites in seconds.
  • Slashdot effect (Score:5, Funny)

    by s1r_m1xalot (218277) on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:41AM (#3711180)
    .
    I felt a disturbance in the force as if all of parksabers.com's 56 kilobits of uplink all screamed at once and then died out.
  • indestructible (Score:3, Interesting)

    by !splut (512711) <.sput. .at. .alum.rpi.edu.> on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:42AM (#3711184) Journal
    I've come across his site before, and left drooling slightly. Those are freggin nice suckers, and I must say that I'm extremely impressed with his abilities.

    I would even the steep price tag more or less justifiable, considering the impress-your-friends factor. People spend more on PDAs. But... well, what good is a replica light saber if you can't saber duel with yer buddies? The specs mention that the plasma lamp is encased in a virtually indestructible polycarbonate (actually, it reads "polycarbonite," which is either a typo or a clever pun) housing.

    Well, polycarbonate is the same stuff they use to make high quality scratch resistant "virtually indestructible" eyeglass lenses. Quite a few of which I have personally destructed. So, I wonder how well the "blades" stand up to thwackin'.

    -ks
  • by donnacha (161610) on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:44AM (#3711197) Homepage


    Well, at least they acknowledge where in their customers' psyches the deep-rooted need to own one of these things stems by naming one of their top models Malestrom [parksabers.com] as opposed to Maelstrom. I wonder if any of their customers notice this subtle dig?

    More worringly, I wonder what a Femalestrom would look like?

  • Curses! Foiled again! (Score:2, Funny)

    by TechFaerie (568490) on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:51AM (#3711222) Homepage
    Dang it! Someone has beat me to the lucrative market of making completely inconsequential items for insane amounts of money! Curses! My plans for world domination.....crushed....

    ...now to take over the world by selling fast food, containing a minute dose of alkaloid...completely harmless, but absolutely addictive!

    *Sigh* So much evil, so little time
  • How did he do that?! (Score:4, Funny)

    by Eddy Johnson (467614) on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:57AM (#3711239)
    The sabers need special materials for them. The Obi-Wan saber needed a rare British grenade, a shower head, and a few other materials. All the other ones (from the original movies, at least) need camera attachments for flashbulbs, with wiper blades and little electronic bits attached, for the most part. The camera attachments are reasonably expensive now, and are moderately rare.

    So how did this guy find all the rare goodies to make all these things to become a millionaire off of them? He must have been awfully rich to begin with.
  • Need a job? (Score:1)

    by Paladin814 (518257) on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:58AM (#3711245)
    In the article he states that he needed to hire help because of his 400 orders after EPII. Considering the site is slashdotted now, I am sure he will be selling way more then 400 this month. Perfect time to get into the black-smith business, not to be confused with the dark side...
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  • by peter_gzowski (465076) on Sunday June 16 2002, @11:59AM (#3711253) Homepage
    The 33-year-old resident of Forney, 20 miles east of Dallas, makes custom light sabers,

    Huh?

    weapons used by Jedi knights in the Star
    Wars films.


    Ohhhh...

    Also, on Parks' website, you can get a utility belt [parksabers.com]! I thought it was funny that it lists it as The DefianceTM Belt, Adjustable to fit sizes 32-40. I think he's grossly underestimated his clientelle...
  • And now he'll be even richer.. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by doublem (118724) on Sunday June 16 2002, @12:01PM (#3711258) Homepage Journal
    Mmmm. Star Wars Products that don't line the pockets of George Lucas. Mmmmm

    And now his sales will tipple. Anyone else remember what happened after thinkgeek.com was slashdotted? I wonder when we'll have the parksabers.com [parksabers.com] box as an option. What will the icon be when he comes out with a new model???
  • by cyberlotnet (182742) on Sunday June 16 2002, @12:02PM (#3711264) Homepage Journal
    More powerfull then a any hacker
    Faster then a speeding DoS Attack
    Able to quelch tall servers with a single post
    Its a bird its a plane no its /.

  • fast cash? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by hey (83763) on Sunday June 16 2002, @12:09PM (#3711292) Journal
    One million in eight years is $125K a year which isn't bad but he has two employees (dad and fiancee). Instead he sounds like a hardworking guy.
    • Re:fast cash? by Geek In Training (Score:3) Sunday June 16 2002, @12:18PM
  • UserFriendly (Score:2, Interesting)

    by fidget42 (538823) on Sunday June 16 2002, @12:11PM (#3711299)
    That sight made User Fiendly's Link of the Day [userfriendly.org] last week. Was Slashdot scooped by a comic strip? ;)
  • by nastro (32421) on Sunday June 16 2002, @12:18PM (#3711331)
    If I recall, there's a guy here who owns one, also, discussions with the proprietors over strength,(you will spar, won't you?) and oh so many other details. http://arstechnica.infopop.net/OpenTopic/page?q=Y& a=tpc&s=50009562&f=34709834&m=5760901974&p=1
  • by antdude (79039) on Sunday June 16 2002, @12:27PM (#3711357) Homepage Journal
    The blade part doesn't look right (too thin). I wonder if he could fix that.

  • by Jim Hall (2985) on Sunday June 16 2002, @12:30PM (#3711362) Homepage

    I'm sometimes shy to admit it, but I bought one of these things waaaaay back when he first started making them, and he only had 4 designs to offer. That was back before they were battery-powered. I bought one of them for my brother for his 28th birthday, and later I decided I couldn't stand not having one, and bought the Defiant light saber (the cheapest they had .. in case I didn't think it was cool after I bought it.)

    I still think it's way cool, even though the Ep1 and Ep2 movies weren't all that great. At least I have my own light saber! :)

  • master replica (Score:2, Informative)

    by Patrick13 (223909) on Sunday June 16 2002, @12:32PM (#3711370) Homepage Journal
    Here's the master replica website [masterreplicas.com] in case you want to actually see the official replica saber, complete with a quicktime movie demo [masterreplicas.com] of one in action.... at least it satisfied my curiosity while the park sabers site [parksabers.com] is being slashdotted.

  • Making REAL light sabers (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Proc6 (518858) on Sunday June 16 2002, @12:46PM (#3711402)
    I realize the light saber of Star Wars is impossible for what we know now, but does anyone have anything to say or any URL's about possible light saber like weapons that actually work? What would it take? Come on geeks, if you can mod a case enough to make a dual athlon not overheat in 3 seconds, surely you can figure out a way to make a big thick laser beam capable of cutting through a car.
    • Re:Making REAL light sabers by ErikZ (Score:3) Sunday June 16 2002, @01:30PM
    • Re:Making REAL light sabers by irvmx (Score:1) Sunday June 16 2002, @01:35PM
    • Re:Making REAL light sabers by zephc (Score:2) Sunday June 16 2002, @01:58PM
    • The Duels would not be that interesting by danielobvt (Score:1) Sunday June 16 2002, @02:13PM
    • Is it even possible to stop a laser beam... by jcsehak (Score:2) Sunday June 16 2002, @04:21PM
    • Re:Making REAL light sabers (Score:4, Interesting)

      by drinkypoo (153816) <martin.espinoza@gmail.com> on Sunday June 16 2002, @06:56PM (#3712444) Homepage Journal
      The best theory I've heard yet on how you would make a lightsaber-like weapon is that you would have some kind of containment bottle containing a highly compressed plasma, which would be squirted out the top and held by some kind of magnetic bottle. Possibly the power needed to maintain the 'bottle' would be supplied by the release of the plasma. This theory can be used to explain away two aspects of lightsabers and lightsaber-like weapons:

      1. The sound that they make when they pass through the air. Plasma discharge.
      2. The fact that they will block each other when they collide. Like forces repel; two bottles with the same polarity will push each other away. If it were some kind of alternating field, well, I dunno. I don't have the physics for it.

      Another possible hack would be a focused laser. This seems more like what the lucas lightsaber does; remember it's based on a laser and has some kind of crystal which is (ostensibly) pumped by a normal laser. There's also a beam splitter. It is possible that you could aim and tune several lasers in such a way that they would seem to terminate at a fixed point.

      As for the "point" a poster makes about not being able to see a laser unless there is dust in the air; This is not true. High-powered enough lasers actually cause reactions in the gas molecules which comprise air to throw off visible light, and god knows what else. Thus an EXTREMELY high-powered laser could quite conceivably be visible.

      The plasma-type sabers are most common in Anime; They actually curve when swung fast enough, and seem to sputter and elongate, indicating that the bottle has an open end, but the plasma normally expires as it reaches the end of the bottle. Swinging it quickly causes the plasma to be slung from the bottle, but ostensibly at the cost of concentration.

      Now, aren't you sorry you asked?

      Incidentally, the reason we don't have them now is primarily because of a lack of power sources which are dense enough. You can't get enough power for that kind of reaction into any battery a human can carry. You might be able to pull something off with chemical lasers, which are probably responsible for the death of the gyrojet project; As many of you know the gyrojet pistol was invented some time ago at JPL, and produced a working weapon, but it's really no good except as a low-recoil weapon for space use. Lasers are great in space because of the lack of air to absorb the energy, and chemical lasers can put out pretty intense amounts of energy. That's just my paranoid guess, though.

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    • Re:Making REAL light sabers by Samrobb (Score:1) Sunday June 16 2002, @10:21PM
    • Re:Making REAL light sabers by BlueGecko (Score:3) Monday June 17 2002, @07:37AM
  • A millionaire? (Score:2, Redundant)

    by tswinzig (210999) on Sunday June 16 2002, @12:49PM (#3711411) Journal
    "In eight years, Parks Sabers has grossed more than $1 million..."

    He's doing well, making an average of about $125,000 a year for the past 8 years. But unless he's able to live without spending a dime, paying any taxes, or able to live on much less and do very well in the stock market while it crashed, then he's no millionaire.
    • Re:A millionaire? by Dexx (Score:1) Sunday June 16 2002, @02:41PM
    • Bad math by Frac (Score:1) Sunday June 16 2002, @09:46PM
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  • Sound far fetched, consider this.

    One of the trials for becoming a Jedi is to build your own lightsabre. As Mr. Parks has demonstrated, he has already done this, so that challenge is completed.

    And doing so without paying royalties to Lucasfilm could be considered defeating a great evil...
  • Touch-sensitive buttons (Score:4, Funny)

    by Mike1024 (184871) on Sunday June 16 2002, @01:34PM (#3711567)
    Hey,

    Minichino, who bought his Arc-Wave in 1999, also likes the touch-sensitive button that turns on the light panel and blade.

    Yeah, they are the best type.

    (You see? It's funny!)

    Michael
  • Get a server (Score:2, Funny)

    by WiggyWack (88258) on Sunday June 16 2002, @02:05PM (#3711662) Homepage
    He should use some of that $1 million to buy a new webserver.
  • I guess I am not the only one who read the article and went on a hunt for Jeff Park's work(s). thelightsaber.com [thelightsaber.com] appears to have suffered a /., or just by strange coincedences, it is unreachable.
  • Better stuff from Master Replicas (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 16 2002, @02:30PM (#3711748)
    Master Replicas [masterreplicas.com] has better stuff. Including models that make the appropriate "wooom" sound when you wave them.
  • google cache (Score:1)

    sigh.. here it is
    here [216.239.51.100]
  • by zhar (533174) <mike AT goldtwo DOT net> on Sunday June 16 2002, @02:53PM (#3711813) Homepage Journal
    "It's a world where Senators and Representatives grant "emergency power" to the executive branch, which the executive branch promises to return to the Senators and Representatives as soon as the current crisis is over. (But, of course, the executive never does return that power.)"

    Try the Roman Republic. This was a reference to when Julius Cesaer refused to give up the powers of dictator to the Roman senate.
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  • Not necessarily a millionaire (Score:2, Insightful)

    by imnoteddy (568836) on Sunday June 16 2002, @03:47PM (#3711918)
    The article states "has grossed more than $1 million" which is not the same as the submitter claims "made himself a millionaire". He has expenses. Maybe he's spent all the money.

    Can't people read?

  • I Own One. (Score:5, Informative)

    by Spencerian (465343) on Sunday June 16 2002, @04:16PM (#3711982) Homepage Journal
    Parks makes the replicas to look faintly like versions used in the movies. They are typically aircraft aluminum, and are very, very tough and scratch resistant. Some are designed for a blade, others just hang on your belt and make people ask if it works.

    The item I have is based on Luke's first/the Graflex design. It serves its purpose well enough for the costume during the occasional con or costume party. If you want a "lightsaber" of your own, Jeff does a good job.

    Lucasfilm generally does not chase down anyone who avoids the use of trademarked names and likenesses or is otherwise obviously capitalizing on his vast empire. Otherwise, people who make costume templates and accessories, especially the stormtrooper stuff and droid parts, would be sued immediately.
    • Re:I Own One. by peterein (Score:1) Sunday June 16 2002, @07:16PM
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    • Re:I Own One. by pinkpineapple (Score:2) Sunday June 16 2002, @07:25PM
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  • by SoCalChris (573049) on Sunday June 16 2002, @04:44PM (#3712033) Homepage Journal
    Luke... I slash dotted your site!
  • Uber Nerd (Score:1)

    by tim0thy (585890) on Sunday June 16 2002, @05:00PM (#3712063)
    "So that would make this guy an uber nerd" Shamlessly ripped from the Conan O'Brein's "Triumph The Comic Dog" skit.
  • by snowtigger (204757) on Sunday June 16 2002, @05:58PM (#3712234) Homepage
    My university is running a research project on "tracking 3D textured object in the presence of aspect changes". Using a computer, a camera and holding a box in your hand, you can animate a light saber.

    Here [ligwww.epfl.ch] is information about the project and this [ligwww.epfl.ch] is an image of the laser sabre in action.

    Here [ligwww.epfl.ch] is a movie (37Mb) showing it in action.

    Now, all you have to do is to buy the handle from parksabers.com to get the real feeling ;o)

  • by ehiris (214677) on Sunday June 16 2002, @07:39PM (#3712635) Homepage Journal
    Yoda's lightsaber [amazon.com] will be released on July 1st.

    "Glowing electro-luminescent blade and authentic sound effects pulled directly from the movie" sounds very interesting and would be a good addition to my Lightsaber key chain.
  • by PHPee (559830) on Sunday June 16 2002, @08:13PM (#3712765) Homepage
    It looks like Parks is doing quite well with his light sabres... Has anyone seen some of the other companies selling light sabre replicas? Like Future Horizons [futurehorizons.net] or Amazing1.com [amazing1.com]

    I'd be interested to know how they compare in quality of construction, durability, brightness, etc...
  • by Barto (467793) on Sunday June 16 2002, @09:22PM (#3713058) Journal
    Favourite Lightsaber (http://www.parksabers.com)?

    Arcwave
    Defiance
    Echelon
    Fury
    Malestrom
    Rou ge
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  • Graflex and Light Sabres (Score:2, Interesting)

    by leighklotz (192300) on Sunday June 16 2002, @10:06PM (#3713221) Homepage
    I run a photography website (actually, one of the first photography websites), Graflex.org.

    Lucas used a Graflex flashgun to make the light sabre prop, and as a result photographers and camera collectors have seen prices rise absurdly, now to hundreds of dollars for old flashbulb equipment that used to be available for $5-$15.

    And furthermore, some of the folks who buy them are belligerent and abusive. I guess if they think you can become a millionaire, I understand now.

  • by ayden (126539) on Monday June 17 2002, @12:59AM (#3713778) Homepage Journal
    The potential cross-over product between the Lightsaber and sex toy industry. Click here [amazon.com] to check out Count Dooko's Lightsaber and see what I mean.
  • Humming (Score:1)

    by Woek (161635) on Monday June 17 2002, @02:41AM (#3713996)
    Wouldn't it be cool to have Soiid-State gyroscopes analyse the rotation of the handle, and produce that cool humming sound accordingly? Could be made really cheaply...
  • Laser Swords (Score:1)

    by tweggen (451552) on Monday June 17 2002, @03:38AM (#3714106) Homepage
    And can anybody please explain, why in the IV-VI movies' german translations these light sabres are called laser swords (Laserschwert) ?
    Did they try to avoid violating any trademarks?

  • Safety saber (Score:1)

    by DuranDuran (252246) on Monday June 17 2002, @07:27AM (#3714518)
    Ben: Your father's lightsaber. This is the weap-

    Luke: What's that red thing on the end?

    Ben: Uh...that's so you don't poke someone's eye out...This is the weapon of a Jedi Kni-

    Luke: What about the blade - does it retract? Huh? Does it?

    Ben: Uh...NO you have to remove it when not in battle. Uh...where was I..oh yeah, THIS is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or-

    Luke: And what about a sort of cool swirling noise? Does it have one of those?

  • by Rand Race (110288) on Monday June 17 2002, @09:43AM (#3715183) Homepage
    ... he builds one around an electric screwdriver so I can carry it around at work.

    And it would be even better if it made the lightsaber noise when in use rather than the usual scredriver sound.

  • ATTN all nerds: (Score:1)

    by vladedivac (584956) on Monday June 17 2002, @03:33PM (#3717753)
    Since you're not getting laid, you might as well watch this: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/video/tv/nerds.htm l [albinoblacksheep.com]
  • Just beat the bejeezus out of them. That sucker's made from an aircraft-grade aluminum pipe.
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  • by Hodr (219920) on Sunday June 16 2002, @03:44PM (#3711915) Homepage
    "Not a Photoshop job" he says with a straight face, despite the star wars warp space visible through the front window of car...
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  • Re:Why? (Score:1)

    by MO! (13886) on Sunday June 16 2002, @03:57PM (#3711941) Homepage
    Ummm does that mean that women with a jewelry addiction are overcompensating for a stinky stanky stretched and skanky vagina?

    btw - here come the flames... (pulls on fire resistant gear)

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    • Re:Why? by NeuroManson (Score:2) Monday June 17 2002, @01:39PM
  • Re:Why? (Score:1, Troll)

    by NeuroManson (214835) on Sunday June 16 2002, @06:17PM (#3712304) Homepage
    Ooooh, must have struck a nerve in one of the mods to get modded down as a troll for making what most normal folks would see as a joke... A JOKE... Repeat after me, a JOKE... Yeesh...
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    • Re:Why? by NeuroManson (Score:2) Monday June 17 2002, @01:36PM
  • by SoCalChris (573049) on Sunday June 16 2002, @06:36PM (#3712379) Homepage Journal
    The "glowing metal" is a luminescent film that glows when electricity is applied. This is an option on some of the new Mercedes, it has that film in the doorjam and it glows "MERCEDES" when the door is open.
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