Thank you for clear explanation.

Yes? That's the point?

That's what a "working model" is. It isn't the thing itself, it's a model that allows us to make the thing work regardless of whether we can fully deconstruct everything down to the subsubsub-bosons. That's what makes it useful.

Over centuries of thought, thought experiment, and direct experiment, we have developed highly precise working models of gravity and fluid lift. This allows engineers to calculate in advance what size and shape to build an aircraft so that it will experience lift sufficient to overcome gravity at a certain speed/weight. I do not need to be able to show you a graviton before I can use my working model of gravity to confidently and perfectly bolt together a bunch of sheet metal to make an airplane that flies, or calculate the precise angle to aim my catapult so boulders slam into the weak parts of your castle.

We are nowhere close to a working model of human cognition. We have zero systematic understanding that would allow us to assemble a bunch of electronics, then just flip a switch and -bam- conscious self-aware Person.

I'm not sure what I've missed, but "first you need to know what the question is" is exactly the entire point of my post.
We don't even know how to go about answering the questions because we don't know what questions to ask. Taking gravity as an example, we're still somewhere in 800 A.D. with an assumption that gravity is not something you would even think to understand because everyone knows things fall downward because The Lord hath caused them to. End of story. So if you want to fly, pray harder.

That dark-ages mysticism level of knowledge is where the AGI folks are today. They believe Consciousness happen because you string a lot of electrical gates together. End of story. If you want to make Consciousness, compute harder.

The AGI folks have more in common with alchemists than physicists.

I never tried or looked into Rust. Can you explain to me what is 'unsafe' section is and how necessary is it? Is the issue that Rust checks were intentionally subverted by some idiot or is that Rust is not usable/cannot accomplish what you need to do in most cases and you have to use 'unsafe' section?

We either live in a society where you have body autonomy or we don't. You advocate for latter case for reasons. This means "Gonna have to get vaxxed." is a small step away from being forced to lose some weight, stop smoking and drinking, eat less meat and go to bed early. For you Own Good Citizen! The issue is that "functioning society" or greater good or whatever is never defined. Last but not least, in case of vaccinations, if a vaccine is effective and you are vaccinated, what does it matter if others are not? If vaccine is not effective, what right do you have to demand others take risk of taking it?

In a vast majority of cases vaccinations do not confer sterilizing immunity (where you can't get the disease and therefore won't transmit). So exposing others is irrelevant, as it would happen anyways. Most vaccinations make a targeted disease, when you still get it, milder. That is well within individual choice.

The American definition of politics turned into an Us vs. Them shit-slinging festival rife with corruption abusing Weapons of Mass Distraction (social media) to hide all the smoke billowing from behind the Congressional Insider Trading curtain that allowed an entire stock market to be corruptly captured by a "magnificent" seven.

That's about as "political" as PT Barnum needed to get.

America is a single country. Those Representatives within their respected districts are supposed to Represent everyone. Even the ones who voted against them. There is nothing that prevents me from writing or speaking to ANY Congressional Representative regardless of my selected party affiliation on my voter card. If they want to pick and choose their responsibilities to their actual citizen constituency, fine. We the People will pick and choose a Representative next time instead of a fucking politician.

America needs to be fucking done with the burden of Us vs. Them politics and the politicians that perpetuate that shit. I don't give a fuck what side is selling what in defense of that. Keep it up at this rate, and it will lead us into another Civil War.

One positive thing about a Recession. It'll make sitting around bitching about Us vs. Them politics look and feel like the irrelevant shit it should have always been.

Independent doesn’t mean what you think. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

Straight banana republic shit.

But hey how about that time Obama ordered an orange juice instead of coffee?

That exact arrogant attitude is why companies are looking to shift the leverage back in their favor by any means necessary. Including a slow-burning Recession.

People got waaay to cocky when COVID not only paid them more to sit on their ass, but also created resource shortages for employers, who were forced to raise salaries. Employers can't have that shit long-term. Fire your employees to replace them with AI vaporware you never bought and didn't work out in 3 months? No problem! They'll come back to work at 20% less pay. Out of sheer desperation. Employers know who lives paycheck-to-paycheck.

Perhaps your bluntness should have retorted with not everyone expectations translates into flying to Vegas monthly for the hookers-n-blow buffet. That's not merely living well. That's splurge territory.

"Nothing flashy" could be a start to defining a normal salary bounced off the living wage. But we also need to focus on the no-tip problem within that. The minimum wage was never meant to be a living wage problem, is another matter entirely. Particularly if AI and automation are going to continue to eliminate those basic jobs and remove the lowest rungs from the societal Ladder of Success. People still need ways to climb and survive.

It's pretty easy to see were 27% might be going. Let's take a good hard look at executive compensation first.

You're right. They're not a charity. But they can certainly be shamed into being known as a company full of greedy fucks who assume "driver" is an excuse for paying flat wages while executive bonuses get fatter and fatter.

If we're already debating on the morality of billionaires, imagine when the CEO to employee payroll diff is an order of magnitude larger, and we're debating the fucked nature of multi-trillionaires. At some point The Rich will only avoid being put on the menu with profit sharing. Actual profit sharing.

Turn them into employees already and start the requisite discipline. You're describing companies with no HR and no HR policy. Real Lord of the Flies bullshit right there, with tolerated results.

Perhaps restaurants need to re-hire drivers directly. Boycott the Fly Lords. With arrogance like that, I'd certainly promote the business that goes that route with my patronage. At least I know that's an employee who is more subject to answer to corporate FAFO policy. And a business who respects their employees and recognizes an inherent problem in delivery today.

Think of the issue with scammers pretending to be drivers for a business and stealing the order outright. Eliminate that problem with direct hires for delivery, and everyone wins.

Yes, I'm well aware of sub-minimum wage problem. You're right. Pass legislation that takes effect in a year or two, and give business time to adjust and eliminate those positions is one possible solution. Or simply use the same Cultural Guilt that perpetuated tipping into the it's-everywhere shit it is today and start reversing the trend. Reward businesses that actively discourage tipping with patronage being fully aware of your price out the door sans guilt or shame sprinkles, knowing their employees are not on slave wages dependent on tip charity.

As far as labeling people sociopaths, be careful. In a Recession, belts tighten everywhere. You just might find yourself being forced to act like one of those "sociopaths" at some point.

Tips are optional. Period. Full stop. Employers won't keep sub-employees under the guise of tips of there aren't any coming in.

Before a law like that could be passed, you'd have to evaluate the impact of all jobs that are currently paying sub-minimum wage, because "tips". Unfortunately there might still be a LOT of those. But you could still pass legislation that takes effect in a year or two. Give businesses time to raise those positions.

Cultural Guilt turned tipping into the it's-everywhere shit it is today. Cultural Guilt can reverse that by shaming or boycotting businesses that demand or insist on tipping, while rewarding those businesses that actively discourage it. Sure, you know you're going to pay a higher price at the latter, but at least you know it's the price out the door. No shame. No guilt. And feeling good knowing the employees are not on slave wages dependent on tip charity.

And as we debate about what a "good" tip is, let's remember belts tighten everywhere in a Recession. Most are happy to be employed. A 10% tip might be soon seen as a gift from the Almighty himself. A cooling economy might be another catalyst that helps drive no-tipping as the cultural norm. Sucks, I know. Not the ideal answer.

Exactly this. Tipping is supposed to reward very good service and those who go above and beyond at times. As you've described it's a payroll subsidy being pushed on consumers with cultural guilt.

Uh, now that's not exactly fair, now is it? If you were actually in the car with the driver, you wouldn't be experiencing the service you actually paid for; sitting your ass on the couch while someone else plays food fetch.

Tips on top of delivery fees, should probably be illegal. That's how we end up with delivery drivers racing through neighborhoods putting innocent people at risk when time becomes the metric of tip success. I don't need cultural norms to metastasize into shit behavior. Charge and pay a standard fee for delivery. Don't encourage assholes to prostitute a driver with a fat tip if they can get there in 8 minutes. Because they will.