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Chinese AI Gets Ethical Guidelines For the First Time, Aligning With Beijing's Goal of Reining in Big Tech (scmp.com) 26

China has revealed its first set of ethical guidelines governing artificial intelligence, placing emphasis on protecting user rights and preventing risks in ways that align with Beijing's goals of reining in Big Tech's influence and becoming the global AI leader by 2030. From a report: Humans should have full decision-making power, the guidelines state, and have the right to choose whether to accept AI services, exit an interaction with an AI system or discontinue its operation at any time. The document was published by China's Ministry of Science and Technology (MOST) last Sunday. The goal is to "make sure that artificial intelligence is always under the control of humans," the guidelines state. "This is the first specification we see from the [Chinese] government on AI ethics," said Rebecca Arcesati, an analyst at the German think tank Mercator Institute for China Studies (Merics). "We had only seen high-level principles before."
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Chinese AI Gets Ethical Guidelines For the First Time, Aligning With Beijing's Goal of Reining in Big Tech

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  • by oldgraybeard ( 2939809 ) on Monday October 04, 2021 @11:07AM (#61859787)
    haha lol right! And I have a bridge for sale!
    • The convenient thing about the weasel word "ethics", is that you can define it however you want.
      From "not working yourself to death for the greater good of the state", which is probably what they do, to letting literal organized child-rapist schizophrenics (you know who I mean) decide your morals, which is what we usually do.

      Reality has no use for the term.
      We are entropy reversing work processes that use up limited energy gradient resources to put structure into matter/energy of space/time.
      So all that matte

    • by shanen ( 462549 )

      Let me guess. You were going for FP in a hurry, so you didn't have time to craft a better joke.

      Better luck next time, but I see it as a long-term problem. Starting discussions with a joke is a good thing, and quick wit is a form of humor, but... Usually it doesn't work out so well on Slashdot.

      Hmm... Now that I think about it that way, it seems like an obviously unsolvable problem. I think there are some witty folks on Slashdot. Probably even some quick wits. But what are the odds that such people will get t

    • When China says "ethical", they mean the AI is not allowed to criticize the govt.
  • to AI that is used by the military or police. These rules are for China, but restraints on military/police AI are equally unlikely to be enforced in other countries, oh politicians will make claims of restraint and then quietly ignore them.

  • Just cuz China is doing something doesn't mean its bad.

    I keep hearing arguments that "Facebook is our community square! Free Speech!"

    We never had walmart, the Saudi government, presidential candidates, or never ending clickbait, standing in our public square. If someone did post an offensive notice in the public square, we'd take it down by hand, no lawyers, no fuss, and you were welcome to come and try to staple it back up anytime you wanted to.

    There is no doubt that "Big Tech" needs to be reined in.

    • Comment removed based on user account deletion
      • iPhones?

      • The grow food for their people. They've brought a large portion of their citizenry out of poverty. They create electricity for businesses. They invest all over the world.

        I am not a fan of the Chinese government's policies, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

        I would ask you, just because you don't like someone, does that mean everything they do is bad?
        --
        The bluebird carries the sky on his back. - Henry David Thoreau

        • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

          They invest all over the world.

          The "belt and road" program is putting a lot of nations into poverty with stuff they don't need.

          Instead of improving well, roads, China builds them a fantastic brand new high tech airport, to which they don't have the infrastructure to handle - bad roads leading to and from the airport, to hardly any population that needs the ability to handle dozens of flights a day.

          It's all very showy, but not at all practical. Those millions of dollars could be better spent in ways that wo

        • Xinnie the Pooh is retaking hard state control over all those sectors, so expecting that to continue apace is a fool's game.

        • by fatp ( 1171151 )

          They grow food for their people

          They seize the land from people who grow food for themselves, force people to buy food from them (which they in turn, buy overseas), and use the land to build never-finished / unstable ("tofu waste") infrastructure.

          They've brought a large portion of their citizenry out of poverty.

          and officials into billionaries.

          They create electricity for businesses.

          but stop power supply any time.

          They invest all over the world.

          and the officials earn money, while locals losing job.

          ALL you talked about are for the benefits of the CCP / XJP. It's unintentional and unlucky for them that citizens and foreign countries benefitted, if any.

    • In point of fact, malls have had to allow protesters on their property, it being considered a limited form of public square. Given anyone can wander in and see the contents of posts on the site unless people explicitly disallow the functionality, FB is very much operating as an online public square. After all they're certainly not selling people's posts themselves. Now, if the vast majority of posts were blocked off unless logged in they could make a different argument, but that is decidedly not the case.

  • The CCP has no ethics, morals, or principles. They are going to say there's GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG AND TIBET. Then they are going to say look at what they are doing in HK and Taiwan. And they are STEALING ALL OF OUR IP!

    Did that cover everything?

  • Humans should have full decision-making power, the guidelines state, and have the right to choose whether to accept AI services, exit an interaction with an AI system or discontinue its operation at any time.

    By humans, they probably mean CCP party officials. I doubt this applies to the end user of the AI system.

  • We really need to pay attention, or they'll overtake us on the ethics front! And not because they aren't evil. But because we aren't not. ;)

  • by shaitand ( 626655 ) on Monday October 04, 2021 @02:57PM (#61860791) Journal
    Somehow I very much doubt that Beijing is applying the same limitations to itself. This is about preventing private entities from accumulating power relative to Beijing not protecting the people from abuse. What they are actually doing is heading off a pathway for movement in class.
  • Not because Chinese companies will thrive and out-compete the US because of this, but simply because in these days, whatever Chinese do, Americans will not.

    Imagine any lawmakers proposing similar laws, their opponents will simply scream "We ain't China!", and that will be the end of the discussion.

    Now, as China put in more and more laws to rein in their internet giants, it will effectively create "forbidden zones" in laws that the US will *never* put in place, hence giving free rein to FAANG to collect more

    • Nobody in the US seems to see the writing on the wall. This country is an outright oligarchy. Our political institutions are completely dominated by finance and patronage. Completely unresponsive to the will of the public. We imprison more people than any country on earth. We've overthrown something like a hundred governments in the past century throughout Latin America, Southeast Asia, and the Middle East. Since the end of WWII we have propped up fascist regimes responsible for killing millions of peop

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