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Chrome For Android Will Show 'Fast Page' Labels Based On Web Vitals (venturebeat.com) 27

An anonymous reader writes: Google today announced Chrome for Android's context menu will show "Fast page" labels for webpages deemed to have good performance. The label will be determined using Google's Web Vitals, an initiative the company announced in May to provide web developers and website owners with a unified set of metrics for building websites with user experience and performance in mind. Core Web Vitals, Google's attempt to spell out the metrics it considers critical for all web experiences, will measure a webpage's responsiveness and visual stability.
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Chrome For Android Will Show 'Fast Page' Labels Based On Web Vitals

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  • by Sebby ( 238625 ) on Monday August 17, 2020 @02:59PM (#60411361)

    The label will be determined using Google's Web Vitals

    No doubt these "metrics" are all biased towards Chrome (and Chrome only - no Chromium derivatives will "qualify" in Google's view), and any page that doesn't meet criteria, will be labelled as "dangerous for your computer - visit this Google page instead!!!" (with as much pointless alarm as Apple's deprecated app warnings).

    And of course, the only remedy for web developers to "fix" these "dangerous" pages will be to try to guess from vague Google-provided descriptions of violations [techdirt.com] what exactly their page is "unqualified" for.

    • Worse than that, they probably won't include metrics on ads, cross-site scripting crap, Javascript, etc. which makes it pretty useless.
      • Worse than that, they probably won't include metrics on ads, cross-site scripting crap, Javascript, etc. which makes it pretty useless.

        The "fast page" metric is supposed to measure how fast the page will load.

        If scripts slow down the page, they will be reflected in the metric.

        If they don't slow it down, they should not be part of the metric.

        Just because you hate JavaScript doesn't mean a metric for a different purpose should be hijacked for your personal anti-JS vendetta. That is not what this metric is for.

      • Worse than that, they probably won't include metrics on ads, cross-site scripting crap, Javascript, etc. which makes it pretty useless.

        Even worse still, it will however Google ads and scripts will be excluded.

    • Actually, should be easy to get these metrics.

      Just don't use any javascript or any client-side processing or memory.

    • by Merk42 ( 1906718 ) on Monday August 17, 2020 @04:13PM (#60411747)

      The label will be determined using Google's Web Vitals

      No doubt these "metrics" are all biased towards Chrome

      Have you looked at them? Because they aren't. So your entire argument goes out the window.

  • How about putting a "Slow page" label on all the not-Fast pages, too!
  • Why on earth would you even look at some silly context menu presented by Chrome - or any other browser, for that matter?

    And wouldn't the page have to have loaded before the context menu is available anyway? So what's the actual value here - meaning to the consumer, not to Google?

    And what's next... will Chrome start giving you the choice to view the "original" web page, or (preferred) Google's stored version of the page - complete with special web trackers to "improve the customer experience"?

    • And what's next... will Chrome start giving you the choice to view the "original" web page, or (preferred) Google's stored version of the page - complete with special web trackers to "improve the customer experience"?

      Google is already serving me AMP pages and thereby costing me an extra page load and a click for every freaking result.

      It's obnoxious beyond belief, and I use another engine first, but sometimes I still have to go back to their search when others don't have what I'm looking for. I wish AMP would die in a fire.

    • Why on earth would you even look at some silly context menu presented by Chrome - or any other browser, for that matter?

      And wouldn't the page have to have loaded before the context menu is available anyway?

      Click the link. Look at the picture at the very top. It's presented on the context menu when you long-press a link.

  • with each new feature loaded update. What the essentials to bloat ratio has expanded to.
    • With every script kiddie adding 27 new FULL JAVASCRIPT FRAMEWORKS for 27 independent features that are all available in the first framework they loaded, I am sure the ratio has become quite low indeed.

    • is to compare traffic consumed by the browser loading the page by a VNC session showing a browser loading the page. My theory is that just sending web-pages as an image is now often smaller than using HTML/JS.

  • I don't give a shit about "fast loading" and I doubt anyone else is either. No one is going to bother scrolling around to see which page Google says will load the fastest.

    I want the info on the page, and if if takes x amount of time to load then that's how long it takes (within reason).

    • by Merk42 ( 1906718 )

      I don't give a shit about "fast loading" and I doubt anyone else is either.

      You may not give a shit, but a measurable amount [cloudflare.com] of people do.

    • Many times the top 5 results contain several pages that look like they have the info I'm looking for. I would absolutely preferentially click the one with the fast page icon.

      Nothing worse than clicking a page on your search results and it downloading 7-12(!) Mb of crap and taking 10s to render so I can read 1 paragraph of text surrounded on all sides by overlays offering social media links, navbars, autoplaying videos, inline embedded videos, galleries with scripts apparently written in obfuscated JavaScrip

  • The purpose is to "enhance" Google tracking.

  • ... insanely bloated "JS apps" pages, useless videos automatically playing, trackers of all kind, ... Done.

  • So what happens when the page is slow to load because of all the google analytics and ads in the page? Bet you any money that their hosted crap slowing down a page will get a free pass.

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