
Teens Actually Do Protect Their Online Profiles 137
Thib writes "A study from the Pew Internet and American Life Project reveals that the majority of teens pay attention to what they are revealing about themselves in their online social profiles. For instance, while many routinely use their first name or include a picture, 'fewer than a third of teens with profiles use their last names, and a similar number include their e-mail addresses. Only 2 percent list their cell phone numbers.' The study comes to light just as state legislatures once again begin to mutter about the dangers of online predators. From the article: 'According to Pew, 45 percent of online teens do not have profiles at all, a figure that contradicts widespread perceptions that the nation's youths are continually on MySpace.'"
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What teen today uses a land-line? Good luck doing a reverse-lookup on a mobile phone.
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Why would you just assume that? That's ridiculous. Even if one were able to obtain a teen's home address, how does that constitute some all-powerful knowledge over their existence and safety? Why don't we just ban listings in phonebooks for individuals with ch
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Essentially, what they are saying is that the number of "at risk" teens online is smaller than the number of "at risk" teens using every other proven method to attract sexual predators... such as well SEX, drinking, drugs, SEX, etc.
I am the neighborhood "computer guy", and I have been constantly asked by my neighbors with tweens and teens (mostly girls) if "it's safe to let their kids on the internet?" I tell these concerned parents the same thing. "The fact that your concerned tells me that it is safe. Just make sure your kids know the risks and how important it is to keep their 'real' life private."
Letting your kids online is far safer than dropping them off at the mall for a few hours, and most parents don't hesitate to do that!. We all know that the predators are out there... but these freaks are desperate for a reason. KIDS ARE NOT THAT STUPID!!! Sure it happens from time to time; a creep is better than average, or a kid is more vulnerable, but as a whole kids have great instincts. The creep you really need to spend some energy worrying about is the kid that's fondling your daughter every morning on the school bus and sits next to her in English, he's gonna have a far easier time convincing her to have sex than some internet predator.
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I'd be willing to GUARANTEE that no more than 0% of the males in your group will be pregnant before they are no longer teens. In fact, I'll extend my guarantee for life.
(I know what you meant, but I've always hated that particular abuse of the English language just to make fathers feel more "responsible" and "involved")
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Assuming an even distribution of male and female (50% each sex), then it would actually mean that 4% of the teen girls would be pregnant while they were teens, since 0% of the boys could be.
I guess thats one of those cases where I knew what I was trying to say, and it seemed clear to me because I knew what I was saying, but it actually doesn't say what
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SO? 1 out of 5 dentists still think chewing sugarless gum after meals isn't a good idea... and that's 20 percent.
Actually, I'd bet it's somewhere closer to 99.9% of dentists who think that chewing any type of gum isn't a good idea. The truth is that "4 out of 5 dentists circled the sugarless gum answer while they were enjoying their gift basket, the other fifth refused to circle an answer and wrote 'I would not recommend chewing gum because ______' before they returned the survey card". Unfortunately they had to make it a bit less wordy so that it would fit into a 30 second commercial.
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What risk, they "exposed" their cell, phone numbers. Big deal. My phone number, name and address have been PRINTED IN THE PHONE BOOK for the last 20 years!!! Yet I have somehow survived. There are much greater risks in the real world than online, or on the phone.
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And fewer than a third of teens with profiles are actually teens. :)
And fewer than a third of non-teens with profiles that say they're teens are actually interested in interacting with teens. Most of them are just police and FBI agents trying to catch other adults doing the same thing.
I found this out the hard way when I was trying to pick up another girl my age in a chat room many years ago. Now how do you handle a situation where an >18 law enforcement officer is attempting to arrange a meeting with an 16 child because he believes the child is really another adult l
We Have Brains! (Score:1)
Re:We Have Brains! (Score:4, Funny)
Maybe we can finally that prove
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There is a big difference... (Score:1, Insightful)
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If you had to choose, would you rather leave your child alone for the weekend with the internet, or with a Catholic priest?
Then ask your friends. What you will get is laughter. Why? Because we all know the answer, but are uncomfortable saying it. I
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Of course, part of the reason so few get
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They should address the root causes. (Score:4, Insightful)
How long till they want to simply ban the internet?
What is it that causes people to prey on children in the first place? I think there should be more investigation into that.
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phishing and identity crimes are all about tricking people who don't know better (for the most part).
Its time the government did something helpful
Define "helpful" and "protective" in this context. (Score:2)
The problem is that government officials always believe they're doing both. Society can and does evolve without government "solutions". Do you really think the story about "creepy old guys on myspace" spread to congressmen before it spread through every school in the country? If there's one thing adolescents do well, it's communicate. They may not heed the warnings, but it's not like you can pass legislation that will make them c
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Heh, and you think politicians already in power want a large majority of people who can't be easily tricked and know better?
Go look at Diebold, the "nonwar" on Iraq, etc and you'll see a large part of it is about tricking people who don't know better.
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Fuck that, I'm waiting for our Congresscritters to figure out that the solution is to ban children. Without children, 99% of the so-called "problems" that the legislature attempts to address would no longer exist.
Elders (Score:3, Insightful)
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Dude... (Score:2)
(Mod up for correct "they're/there" usage!)
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I have seen that, as well as the opposite problem-- my dad, for example, thinks he has cleverly fooled the world into never being able to track him, just by using a fake name. When I describe the methods that "THEY" can still scam him, he firmly asserts: "They can't do that!"
!? "Really dad, they can."
"No they can't!"
For the longest time, I kept my parents on di
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Silliest one I ever heard: Someone who used a fake name but their real credit card number and address!
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fewer than a third of teens with profiles use their last names
Is it me, or is 33% a hell of a lot of stupid teens? I don't if I would be crowing that that somehow proves that there isn't a problem with teens protecting their identities.
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I don't mention my last name when discussing something online, and my first only comes out after I've known someone for at least a year, but I don't doubt these pieces of information would be hard to acquire for someone who really wanted them...
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Your last name is Binks, isn't it.
--Rob
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The information being visible isn't the real i
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TaDa! Instant %100 protection.
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I also stick 90210 in for zip codes, sometimes I'll put in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC, 20500
If they wanted accuracy, they'd be better off making it not required.
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Alright, my name isn't John Smith, but it is quite a common name (although I do point out I'm no longer a teen).
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--
Geoff Robertson
3304 Celeste Ave.
Dupage, IL 39182
(630) 555-1221
Forgot something... (Score:2)
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Not only are kids *much* smarter (Score:3, Funny)
How about the politicians concentrate on some more important issues? Trade balance? Fiscal policy.
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Not only are kids *much* smarter than some politicians want to make them sound, it's a thinly veiled attempt to legislate morality. (again)
Riiiight. Because (effectiveness of anything aside) all those antedeluvian conservatives are just trying to enforce their own narrow-minded world view which unjustly classifies, oh, stalkers, pedophiles and rapists as a "danger to society". This prudish, dogmatic grandstanding has no place in a free society! Stalkers are just misunderstood, and a truly just society would surely recognize their tendencies as a healthy, valid expression of their own individual volition!
But what "it" were you talking about
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We've got a long list of our enemies that seem to flourish despite harsh penalties: illicit drug users, terrists, gamblers and murderers. Put those damn liberals on the list and the world will be much safer!
As much as you may want it to work, legislating morality doesn't work.
Thanks CNN (Score:5, Funny)
Wish I could mod you +1 funny (Score:3, Interesting)
Nice catch, worth a good laugh.
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Most important part of this article... (Score:3, Insightful)
Widespread perceptions? (Score:3, Interesting)
What widespread group of people actually thinks this? I would love to see them back this up with valid statistical data. I think maybe it's "widespread perceptions [amongst the 4 computer-ignorant soccer moms at our office] that the nation's..."
Depends on the website (Score:3, Informative)
Depends on intent as well (Score:2)
Consider this scenario; you're just venting your distress about life, writing about someone that you aren't ready to co
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As to the child predator issue, ISTM the simple solution is to default such spaces to "private, viewing allowed only by marked-friends and/or by invitation". If the account ho
Why Myspace is better than high school (Score:3, Interesting)
It can't be worse than high school. You have to go. You don't get paid. You don't get to pick whom you're with. You're not anonymous. The place is regimented, cliquish, and crowded. Being popular is hard work, and being unpopular is a pain.
Myspace is a relief from all that. The worst day on Myspace is better than a moderately bad day of high school. On Myspace people can annoy you, but you can block them. Unlike real life.
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Open to what? Many of them probably have their surnames printed on their clothes, books, bags.... I had mine painted on my bike. Every day in the newspaper you see photos of people with their full names. (Eg, local sports events reports.) Oh no! But wait, they've been doing that for 100 years. Having it on the INTERNET means it must be dangerous, because everyone knows pedophiles would rather track some
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As Schnei
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MySpace Blocking and Proxies (Score:1)
So, I tell them - why not have a conversation about what MySpace is and what they use it for? Fun things to do, bad things to avoid etc. But I believe there is a such a paranoia of parents and administration (and we're talking New York City DOE administration and parents, not exactly t
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What are you trying to say?
Environment vs. risk exposure (Score:1, Insightful)
I'm amazed at the disparity in personal information revealed by people between both sites. The same folks who are more than willing to put their full name, life story, names of friends and significant others, etc. up on MySpace suddenly get shy on Stickam. It seems that there's a comfort in the presumed disconnect of MySpace, where you can post pictures of yourself, and Stickam, where you'
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Plus, they're selling the video. The pics are free.
At least they think they do (Score:3, Informative)
She got the idea pretty quick.
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iPod Flea, anyone? (Score:2)
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*Actually* (Score:3, Funny)
"No teacher, the dog *actually* ate my homework"
"They *actually* had sex in a bush"
"I hear they *actually* published Duke Nukem Forever."
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That joke gets funnier every day.
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Online risks... (Score:1)
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And should I complain about taxes for public education that I have to pay even though I went to a private school? Or about roads I am taxed for even though I don't have a car? And those damn police, even though I have never been arrested or assaulted. Not to mention those fire departments, as my house has never been on fire. Worst of all is the military, I mean we haven't been attacked by a nation since the 1940's! Sheesh!
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Go ahead, I'll wait.
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So are you suggesting we weren't attacked? Yes, yes, I know you said nation, but that's just sophistry unless you believe a standing military is only for when we are attacked by a formally recognized nation, which would be idiotic in the extreme.
I'm going to assume that you have some modicum of rational thought and are not referring to the "OMG, teh US architected 9/11!!~!1oneone!!" cry of the tinfoil brigade. I'm just going to assume you're a self-right
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