1 Million 360s a Month By Year's End 118
GameDailyBiz reports that Microsoft plans to have one million 360's produced a month by the end of the year. From the article: "As has been previously reported Xbox 360 production and availability has already been significantly increased in recent weeks. In the period through Microsoft's fiscal year ending in June, the company expects to pump out 2 to 3 times the number of units it did previously. With Sony's PlayStation 3 launching this November across the globe, Microsoft still has a window of opportunity during which it can extend its lead in the next-gen race considerably."
Re:November? (Score:3, Informative)
Sony have committed to a worldwide release in November 2006.
Ewan
ButtonBashers.com [buttonbashers.com]
Re:November? (Score:2)
I don't buy that for a second.
Mark my words:
2007 (probably not even *EARLY* 2007)
-Eric
Re:November? (Score:2)
More likely I suspect they'll put out a token amount in Europe so they can claim a worldwide release and spoil the Xbox 360 christmas sales with "Wait until January for more PS3's" hype, then not ship any more until March..
Re:November? (Score:2)
Think about it
Why would the want to cut off sales from their cash cow when there is no imminent threat? They're going to ride the PS2 as long as they can (without hurting the PS3).. after all, Sony is in the business of making money, not producing shiny new videogames for the betterment of mankind.
Re:November? (Score:3, Insightful)
If Sony slip the release back, then the likes of EA, Ubisoft, Konami, etc, will make their displeasure quite clear, and might even stop or scaleback the PS3 developments they're doing - after all, the publishers would much prefer 1 system to have 100% marketshare, it would save them a fortune in development costs, and whether it's Sony of Microsoft doesn't real
Re:November? (Score:2)
So Nintendo is just going to vanish due to sheer terror or something?
Re:November? (Score:1)
~nate
Re:November? (Score:2)
I hope not because for some reason the release of UT2k7 is set to coincide with the release of the PS3. This includes the PC version, which is the only one I'm interested in.
I know this has been discussed before but I really don't like how the industry seems to be tied more and more to consoles these days. The only console game that has held my interest in the past 6 years has been Katamari. The only co
That's no moon... (Score:5, Funny)
"the company" (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Commodity parts == Fast time to market (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Commodity parts == Fast time to market (Score:1)
Re:Commodity parts == Fast time to market (Score:2, Insightful)
If you discount the Blu-Ray drive then the PS3 will probably use less custom parts than the 360.
Re:Commodity parts == Fast time to market (Score:2)
How would this not be different? Your Jap Zero analogy does not hold AT ALL.
Re:Commodity parts == Fast time to market (Score:2)
Where did you come up with this??? I'd love to see the specs to the 360's wireless interface, but the only thing that has been freely published is that it uses the 2.4Ghz frequency... what are you basing this on? Do you have headphones that use this????
Re:Commodity parts == Fast time to market (Score:1)
IBM's CELL blades are interesting [nikkeibp.co.jp], although they are just prototypes. The Cell will be in some stuff, it has a chance of catching on in media apps, but I'm guessing it will end up only being successful in the PS3.
The 360's hard drive is completely unupgradable, you can't upgrade it even if you rip the damn thing apart. The 360's hard-drive situa
Re:Commodity parts == Fast time to market (Score:2)
If you get the premium version, you get component (and composite) cables in the box.
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Re:Commodity parts == Fast time to market (Score:1)
"The chip contains three identical, customized IBM 64-bit multi-threaded PowerPC-based CPU cores, each implementing two simultaneous instruction threads and featuring clock speeds in excess of 3 GHz. The cores are enhanced with specialized function VMX acceleration for gaming applications, as well as with a high speed 128-bit vector unit. Additionally, the processor includes a 1 MB Shared L2 Cache with custom logic for high-speed data streaming
Smoke And Mirrors (Score:2, Interesting)
1 million per month? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:1 million per month? (Score:1, Informative)
360s have been in stock in all major US retailers since late February.
One just has to look at the 360 numbers:
Microsoft has been INCREASING production of 360s over the past few months.
However, monthly sales of 360s have been DECREASING over the past few months.
There just isn't much demand for the system outside of the existing hardcore Xbox demographic. Microsoft is on track to sell less than three million 360s this year.
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Re:1 million per month? (Score:2, Interesting)
This compares to 160k XBOX 360s sold in Februrary accordin
Re:1 million per month? (Score:2, Informative)
In fact, I'm impressed that the 360 is making the inroads it's making, if you compare the shares from February to March, the numbers go from 34% of the combined 360/PS2 sales to 42% of the combined sales. And the PS2 absolute numbers are trending down. That's a very good trend for a console that costs twice as much at a minimum.
When you count both XBox and 360 sales, they outperformed the PS2 last month. While y
That's an interesting take (Score:1)
I still maintain that the most interesting numbers won't come out until early next year.
Re:That's an interesting take (Score:1)
Gameboy and DS can be added together. But the Gamecube again uses a different set of tools and abilities.
In general though, you don't want to be comparing the handhelds with the standard consoles, they're a different market entirely.
Now when Revolution comes out, it should be added to gamecube sales when determining development cost and possible returns from a game, since from what I can tell, the s
Re:1 million per month? (Score:1)
The launch of the 360 in Australia is a red herring, though - NPD numbers only cover US sales.
Re:1 million per month? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:1 million per month? (Score:2)
Nope, just the "premium" system for $399.
Here [bestbuy.com] order your damned Xbox, you can have it the day after tomorrow and quit your bitching... Oh, what's that you say? You already have one, or you wouldn't be blathering on like a fanboy? Where'd you get it? I thought there was a shortage?
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Re:1 million per month? (Score:2)
Apparently, stacked in an enormous pyramid on the floor at BestBuy in Marlboro, MA.
Re:1 million per month? (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:1 million per month? (Score:1)
It isn't a question of supply and demand when you have one supplier whose main interest isn't in making profits on the machine.
How many 360's sold to date? (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm especially curious about non-US markets here. Has the 360 been selling ANY units in Japan? Last I heard, the answer was no; what happens if we have the 360 as the runaway winner of this console generation here in the States, but the PS3 or Revolution annihilates it in Japan? It would be kind of a weird dichotomy...
Re:How many 360's sold to date? (Score:1, Informative)
About 100k in Japan.
About 800k in the US.
About 500k in Europe.
The 360 has been selling around thousand or so a week in Japan. It has been selling less than the GameCube over there.
"what happens if we have the 360 as the runaway winner of this console generation here in the States"
That just isn't going to happen. The 360 is the worst selling console since the 3DO; even the first Xbox and Dreamcast sold significantly better.
Most troubling for the 36
Re:How many 360's sold to date? (Score:3, Informative)
The numbers above are basically correct (but I think the number was 900k in North America), but just an thought I'd add in the date range that those were for as it could easily be mis-understood to represent more current numbers (which aren't yet available).
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Re:How many 360's sold to date? (Score:2)
It would be the norm.
Exporting culture, whether it be in the form of a game, a book, a movie, or a high-tech gadget is difficult.
Re:How many 360's sold to date? (Score:2)
http://www.nintendojo.com/editorials/view_item.php ?1145322602 [nintendojo.com]
Unfortunately, they don't say where the stats come from, but I'm sure they can easily be found on the net (I just can't remember what company usually reports the Japanese sales figures)
Reason why.. (Score:1)
Nope, that's why they can pump out a million a month for the US.
Maybe not (Score:2)
Great! I wonder if anyone will buy them... (Score:3, Insightful)
I wonder how many people who don't already have an Xbox360 are actually going to buy one in the near future. Microsoft likes to spin this as though they're producing more units to cover the huge demand and reduce shortages, but said shortages are now nothing more than an illusion. I honestly believe that most everyone who wants one already has one or can't really afford one.
It's funny how, despite all this, I still think that Sony is in a worse position than Microsoft in this round of the console "wars."
Re:Great! I wonder if anyone will buy them... (Score:2)
The shortage still exists in localities. In my area, the only the only 2 places that carry them (walmart and shopko) are barely getting them. Shopko hasnt had any in months, and walmart gets maybe 5-10 a month, and they sell w/in a day or 2 of receiving them.
Re:Great! I wonder if anyone will buy them... (Score:1)
I know two people who just bought Xbox 360s, and I'm getting one next month. The constrained supply was a huge factor in our decisions to get them now.
Re:Great! I wonder if anyone will buy them... (Score:2)
Re:Great! I wonder if anyone will buy them... (Score:2)
I've heard the same shortages from friends around Austin an
360s (Score:2, Interesting)
Microsoft didn't even run one commercial or print ad for the 360 in Japan prior to launch. That is a good indicator of what MS thinks of the Japanese market.
MS would be perfectly hap
Re:360s (Score:2)
Based on their past performance - dead last in Japan, almost neck-and-neck with the Gamecube in the US, and losing billions of dollars....I wouldn't get your hopes up quite yet.
Friend of mine had to stand in a line of over 40 people for 8 hours a month after launch to get a console and they are still very rare to find on shelves. The demand for this product is unreal.
A whopping 40 people, and
Re:360s (Score:2)
Just as a bit of a reality check, the last good numbers availble were through Dec 31, 2005 when they had sold 1.5 million 360s. Assuming that by "billions" you meant at least 2 billion they would have to be losing at least $1,333 per machine and getting no roalties on any games.
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Re:360s (Score:2)
That claim by Microsoft has already been debunked.
I would be very interested to see this debunking! Was it some blogger or something who just make the statements to that means it debunked?
Re:360s (Score:2)
I wonder if they are going to start that whole internal sales nonsence next, where microsoft manufacturing sells it to microsoft importing
Re:360s (Score:2)
Advertising in every medium possible so that they can give potential customers the impression (illusion) that your product is cool isn't free. Paid award shows (informercials for people too stupid to realize they're watching an infomercial) on SpikeTV and MTV aren't free. They have to ship the boxes from the factories (t
Re:360s (Score:2)
My problem is all the non-sense numbers that get tossed around here. If I'd been able to guess that he was referencing a completely different product line than the one being discussed, than I wouldn't have been so bothers because by looking at P&L breakdowns in SEC filings I can at least see that it isn't complete gibberish. However, based on my false assumption that
Re:360s (Score:2)
Since the entire thread was discussing the 360 I'd assumed he was talking about the 360 since he didn't say otherwise. My bad I guess.
If I'd been able to guess that he was referencing a completely different product line than the one being discussed,
However, based on my false assumption that the numbers he was quoting were trying to be relevant to the conversation (360)
What part of "past performance" and mention of competing against the Gamecube
What's the difference? (Score:1)
A whopping 40 people, and the wait was still 8 hours? I'm curious how that indicates unreal demand more than it indicates a horrible supply problem.
There is no difference between demand quantity that exceeds supply quantity and supply quantity that falls short of demand quantity: QD > QS iff [wikipedia.org] QS < QD.
Think logistics instead of economics (Score:1)
Come to ohio (Score:2)
Re:Come to ohio (Score:1)
All the samsclub's have a large number of the $399 bundles.
Is a Sam's Club membership worth the 40 USD per year?
Re:360s (Score:2)
What is "Because the supply and the demand may vary based on geographic location", Alex?
They tried to crack Japan's market. And failed. (Score:3, Informative)
From this Boston.com article [boston.com]:
Re:360s (Score:1)
1 Million 360s a Month By Year's End (Score:1, Redundant)
Hmmm... A normal month only has 7200 360s in it, hows that going to work?
Re: 1 Million 360s a Month By Year's End (Score:1)
But how many... (Score:1)
Re:But how many... (Score:1)
This just in, Microsoft now the biggest employer in McAllen, TX.
XBox 360 Production Schedule, 2006 (Score:4, Funny)
May: 2
June: 3
July: 4
August: 5
September: 7 (kickin' into overdrive)
October: 10
Nover: 12
December: 1,000,000
Good plan.
*Yawn* (Score:3, Insightful)
The PS2 sold just shy of a million on opening weekend [wikipedia.org]. Just in Japan. And 10,000,000 in 13 months.
I think we already see how the dominance in this generation is going to play out (unless Sony prices themselves out of the market); Nintendo's not claiming it (by design) and Microsoft can't reach it (by ineptitude)
However, they're still important... having 3 competing consoles last generation was the best thing for customers everywhere; just remember the pre-E3 price wars. Competition keeps companies on their toes.
Supply up - why can't the games pick up? (Score:1)
Re:Supply up - why can't the games pick up? (Score:2)
Rumors... in Spanish! (Score:2)
The 360 will see a ~$100 price drop come October.
(In response to PS3 online), Xbox Live's price will be reduced, possibly made entirely free thanks to sponsorship and promotion.
(In response to NDS's online play), a new for-kids version of Xbox Live will be created, with a kid-centric dashboard.