Xbox Live More Popular than iTunes? 86
Microsoft announced this morning that they'd reached 10 Million downloads with the new Xbox Live service, a download rate even faster than the iTunes Music Store. From the Gamespot article: "The tech giant also revealed that more content for Xbox Live is on the way. The company confirmed that new achievements and automobiles will be available for Project Gotham Racing 3, new multiplayer maps are headed to Perfect Dark Zero, and an online cooperative mode for Kameo: Elements of Power will be ready soon. The company did not say whether said downloads would be free or, as is more likely, come at a price."
Yay inflammatory titles (Score:4, Informative)
Talk to me when XBL has a billion downloads...
Apple iTunes downloads passes 1 billion songs [apple.com](Disclaimer: I use and like both itunes and XBL, but saying that something that just hit 10m downloads is more popular than something that just passed 1b is ridiculous.)
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anyway, I think that the rate of the curve should be given some review when determining popularity.
If iTunes has a flat rate of growth and XBL has this monster quadratic or log curve showing up then the argument may be valid. Nevermind that I really do agree with you.
-nB
Just thought about this: all numbers should be normalized against subscriber base. The base its self should be a weight.
-nB
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Actually, I get what they're saying just fine. I just don't think their statement has any real value. Even if we ignore the fact that comparing total downloads between XBL and iTunes isn't relevant [slashdot.org], and we ignore the fact that XBL didn't [slashdot.org] hit 10m any faster, there's still the fact that these are two network services started approximately 4 years apart after a great deal of consumer training done on the part of apple and others. Hitting 10m at the 4 month mark simply doesn't have the same impact as it did 4 years ago.
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honest
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And not only that, talk to me when those 1 billion downloads are paid downloads. AFAIK, Apple only counts the stuff they sell as a download, but I am not 100%.
Re:Yay inflammatory titles (Score:1, Troll)
I think this might possibly be the shittiest article I've EVER read on slashdot.
And I was here during the Jon Katz years *shudder*
Misleading title (Score:5, Insightful)
One thing cannot be compared to an unrelated thing. XBox Live is for gaming, while iTunes is for music (and video) downloads. The title should read:
Gaming More Popular than Music Downloads
Now I'll go read the summary.
Re:Misleading title (Score:3, Insightful)
Music is infinitely more popular than gaming though - for the obvious reasons. It's a poor comparison.
However, XBox Live is positioning itself to be a content provider to the home. They can easily distribute music now - a
Re:Misleading title (Score:2)
Enviable? I've got a hunch that this is mostly empty bandwidth. XBOX execs are very good at releasing impressive numbers, but very bad at earning a cold hard profit. If XBOX were ever to earn any achievement of note, you will hear them shouting from the heavens, and you certainly won't see announcements about it as blatantly ambiguous as this.
Free Downloads too (Score:2)
Re:Free Downloads too (Score:3, Interesting)
uhh...no. You pay real money for "points" that you then use to purchase downloads, not all downloads cost money. But they certianly aren't all free. IMO, the use of points to aquire downloadables is a great marketing move on MS's part, people don't think of them as money, and are more willing to part with them.
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So what happens if you don't have a hard disk drive or you don't make use of microsoft live, do you just get stuck with beta versions of their games ?
Apples to Oranges (Score:5, Insightful)
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Even worse than that (Score:1, Informative)
So: iTunes, we look at the number of down
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Hmmm.. it's 6.5 billion now according to http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/popclockworld.html [census.gov]
So it's 1/13th.
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Only one wait to find out... (Score:4, Funny)
misleading (Score:2, Insightful)
By all the gods of geeks... (Score:4, Insightful)
-Chris
Agreed. (Score:1)
Re:By all the gods of geeks... (Score:2)
same as iTunes (Score:5, Informative)
Re:same as iTunes (Score:2)
Perhaps a more accurate comparison would be to iTunes sales after the release of version 4.1, the first Windows version. At that time, iTunes had been available on the Mac for two years, putting it in a similar situation as the curre
Re:same as iTunes (Score:1)
Talk about desperation... (Score:5, Insightful)
We're stealing headlines from random forum users now? For shame, guys. For shame. :)
Other factors to consider (Score:2)
How many transactions remain if only count transactions that people actually paid for? In other words, excluding transactions made with points that came with the xbox or came with the xbox live subscription.
And of course, on top of all that, you can't really compare an online service that sells ONE item (songs, since we're only counting those in the 1 billion figure) to a service that sells everything from
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Pepsi paid apple for those downloads, so somebody was still paying for those songs.
Regardless, the point is moot. Pepsi's promotion failed. When they did it in 2004, they had 100 million songs to give away, but only ended up giving away 5 million. I think they did a se
I can totally see this... (Score:3, Insightful)
Are they sure they're not fudging numbers somewhere?
Well (Score:1)
Oh yeah? (Score:2)
Jesus is gonna get mighty pissed!
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MS not on top (Score:1)
More News (just in) (Score:3, Funny)
More Spamming on XBox Live (Score:2)
I wish Zonk would stop doing that.
Xbox Live Music Service (Score:1)
Oblig Simpson's Quote... (Score:4, Funny)
Lenny: If you ask me, Muhammad Ali in his prime, was much better than anti-lock brakes.
Carl: Yeah, but what about Johnny Mathis versus diet pepsi?
Moe: Oh, I cannot listen to this again!
Gnomic Plan for xBoxLive (Score:1)
2. Invest in MSFT stock
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4. Profit!
Unfortunately, each song downloaded for the iPod is 99 cents, of which only 5 cents goes elsewhere, so it's way more likely that Apple will make a lot more money from iPod music usage than Microsoft will make money from the higher-cost, lower-revenue xBoxLive service.
Ask yourself - how many people with iPods use Apple's music service?
And how many people with xBox's use xBoxLive?
I have an xBox and I don't use it.
Statistics 101 (Score:1)
You've sold me, sir! Clearly no one with an XBOX uses XBL.
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However, I also didn't claim my t size was that big, nor that it had statistical significance.
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Thus, it's possible that your group has more xBoxLive - but couldn't this be an observation altered by the very simple fact that it's your friends, and they all want to play games together?
Sometimes, my son and I play online with our neighbors, joining games, but we do that with our Mac and PC logins.
Thus, just as my circle of friends has noone who has xBoxLive, but have
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Are you absolutely certain about this? Because my brother's band get around 40p of the 79p that the UK version of iTMS sell their tracks for, and that's after the taxman and their record company have had their shares as well.
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Very popular artists demand higher cuts here, while unknown and starting artists get a lot less.
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I have an iPod and I don't use iTunes.
You're not proving anything.
How many of those were free downloads? (Score:2, Insightful)
I just think it's sad that MS keeps speweing out this FUD because they have no chance of catching up to the iPod.
how many of these downloads... (Score:1, Funny)
interesting (Score:1)
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Xbox Live not free on weekends (Score:1)
This coming weekend will actually be the first free access to all areas of live for Silver accounts. MS has not announced their next free weekend as of yet.
In a related story... (Score:2, Funny)
I've just got to ask... (Score:3, Funny)
Not a fair comparison really. (Score:2)
Does that number include patches? (Score:2)
Richest kid wins? (Score:2, Insightful)
Alright, so you can buy yourself some kick-ass car and rock at Project Gotham?
Oh well, skills are overrated anyways..
Fine... (Score:2)
Don't update XBL 360! (Score:1)