Mass Innovation and Disruptive Change 194
bart_scriv writes "The new head of MIT's Media lab argues that societal advances, previously the domain of a small group of individuals, will now become the product of millions of people due to changes in education and technology. He also offers advice to would be start-ups and entrepreneurs, including an argument against instrumentalism: 'The successful will look for fundamental disruptive change.'" There sure do seem to be a lot of creative people doing projects on the web today. What do you folks think of this?
Well (Score:4, Insightful)
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Medium (Score:2, Interesting)
Once the ideas were spread by word of mouth, very slowly. Methods for transferring ideas faster came out, but they were largely one-way. The result is that certain ideas were able to dominate others simply because they were the sorts of ideas that appealed to publishers or television producers.
Now everyone can pass their ideas back and forth very quickly. You put your idea about people being useless up, I respond b
Re:Wake up from your dream. (Score:2)
Re:have to disagree (Score:2)
Some of it has come to pass. Instead of a large stereo a small iPod does the job, and much better. We occasionally work from home, and from time to time I'm even able to convince my travel-happy colleagues to just try to solve the problem by p
Re:still... (Score:2)
I'm not saying we can't produce some amazing tech, we obviously do, just we are running out of the stuff we need to produce amazing tech, *enough for everyone*, and now the secret is out, and all the 6 billion want a big chunk.
Is the assumption here that all 6 billion people will want 2 400HP sedans, a 2500 square foot house on an acre of land and be able to buy 4 iPods per year for their kids?
I have no stats to back it up, but I'd guess that most people would be happy with the basics plus a bit of co
Re:Don't you? (Score:2)
Please clarify this for me.
create more jobs, it's all about the economy
Are you saying that more jobs should be "created" (by definition, these would be artificial jobs that would not otherwise need doing) so as to shore-up employment?
Let's go back-and-forth on this concept, assuming you have the time and the stamina.
Old numbers. (Score:2)
here's a link (Score:2, Interesting)
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/09/business/worldbu siness/09opec.html [nytimes.com]
There's a lot more out there on this "capacity" deal. And the figures for 'superfields are well known, there just aren't finding them anymore..
The bottom line is they can cut production, or production can get cut due to outside unplanned for forces, but as to adding to production, very few places can do that now,the article
Re:Well (Score:2)
Believe it or not you don't need electricity to connect to the net. See more info on the laptops created by MIT media lab. It has a hand crank. Also, CHEAP solar is coming using nanotech. So, soon everyone will have electricity to go with their internet.
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You are delusional. (Score:2, Interesting)
If your goal is to have more freedom, you'll want to govern the internet properly yourself, otherwise the internet will be governed the way everything else is governed. The
A lot of creative people (Score:5, Insightful)
Seems to me they're far outnumbered by the un-creative people.
Concepts like "good design" and "good programming" are skills that take training, practice and work. Woodworking tools are cheap, ubiquitous and far more capable than what was available 20, 40 or 60 years ago. Where are all the people building beautiful, elegant and functional furniture?
Re:A lot of creative people (Score:2, Insightful)
Well, with the possible exception of the power router I might argue with this, but I think I'll just restrain myself to the opinion that musical composition would be a better example.
Nowadays you don't even have to bother learning to play even a simple instrument to compose. Just type some ABC notation (plain, tagfree ASCII text) into a computer and let the computer convert it to midi.
Anyone can compo
Re:A lot of creative people (Score:2)
Biscuit joiners? Laser-guided compound miter saws?
But you're right, the analogy was strained, and the music-composition case would have been a much better one with which to lead. What cost Frank Zappa tens (maybe hundreds) of thousands of dollars in the 1980's can be had by any interested amateur today. Where are all the musical geniuses?
Re:A lot of creative people (Score:2)
Woodworking tools require money and, more importantly, space.
Re:A lot of creative people (Score:2)
Re:A lot of creative people (Score:2)
True, but a table saw, band saw, workbecnch, etc, take up significantly more space, especially considering the sawdust that makes a workshop incompatible with a living room space unlike a computer. As somone living in an apartment but wanting a workshop, this is a bit frustrating.
Re:A lot of creative people (Score:2)
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A modern drill press is only a tiny bit more capable; I have to move a belt across pulleys to change its speed, while modern ones have electronic speed controls.
The story is the same for lathes. Table saws have seen little change; they're not even variable speed.
Woodworking tools are fa
Re:A lot of creative people (Score:2)
There IS a lot of noise along with signal. The point of signal is that it outlasts noise. This is how natural selection works; the more variation you can get, the more fitness you can squeeze out of the patterns.
Is it so hard to believe that there aren't lots of private carpenters who've benefitted from the steady decline of carpentry tool prices? Yes, there are a lot of bad amateurs, there too, but, just like the web, there are probably many highly skilled craftsman who would ot
Re:A lot of creative people (Score:2)
Did you check Google [google.com]?
Re:A lot of creative people (Score:2)
Um, that would be the third world that you are talking about - no one in the first world can afford to make their living carving furniture but they can make their living importing furniture made by peasants in countries without clean water.
It's a problem of economy, not skills and tools.
Re:A lot of creative people (Score:2)
You seem to have , ummm, interesting definitions for at least two of those words.
That's funny (Score:4, Interesting)
That's funny... because it seems to me that in the last 20 years education has only gotten worse and worse.
The head of MIT's Media lab is himself specifically in that small group of individuals that is traditionally associated with societal change. And moreover he's buried far enough inside that group that I don't think he can see that America's educational infrastructure outside MIT is just plain crumbling to the point where the group of individuals equipped to change the world (or at least America) is if anything shrinking...
Re:That's funny (Score:3, Insightful)
Grad School (Score:2)
I agree that the 4 year technical degree is starting to become a bit vocational, and that's why I went to graduate school. Getting in to a top graduate program was the reward for all of the research and extra classes.
However, when looking for a job after graduate school (where my GPA sucked because I took what I was interested in, rather than what would get me a good GPA) the school discourage
Re:That's funny (Score:3, Insightful)
My daughter's school is noticably better than in my day. Anyhow, I don't think school matters much in the US, to be frank. School tends to focus on physical concepts. The "physical economy" has been offshored for the most part because it is cheaper to do it there. The nuts and bolts are overseas.
Concepts such as ebay are essentially social ideas. Social ideas are where the innovation tends to come fr
Re:That's funny (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:That's funny (Score:2, Insightful)
Not one giant heard, but many. Because of immigration and ad saturation, we are a fairly diverse test-bed for new marketing ideas. The best marketers hone there skills here and then export their gimmicks for profit, enough of it which flows back into our economy.
After all, who historically makes the biggest bucks: the inventors or the exploiters of the inventio
MIT's Rosalind Picard promotes Intelligent Design (Score:2)
Rosalind W. Picard, one of Media Lab's prominent research scientists, is regularly cited as a supporter of intelligent design [wikipedia.org]. The New York Times [nytimes.com] writes about the Anti-Evolution Petition [dissentfromdarwin.org] that "advocates who have pushed to dilute its teaching have regularly pointed to a petition signed by 514 scientists and engineers", including " Rosalind W. Picard [mit.edu], director of the affective computing research group [mit.edu] at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology".
Can Rosalind Picard please explain how teaching Intellig [wikipedia.org]
True (Score:5, Interesting)
I think the bottleneck right now is much more on the creativity and business side than it is on the hardware/software side. If you want to be a tech entrepreneur than learn business skills, you can always find someone to help you with hardware and software. Of course you need to understand what is possible, be able to tell the difference between a good and bad programmer, etc.
Re:True (Score:2, Insightful)
Because of the pro-rich administration, the wealthy have too much money these days (perhaps at our expense) and so are using their spare money to go out on investment limbs.
Generally good investors split their investments into 3 groups: Safe but slow-growth, medium, and high-risk. The high-risk end is essentially gambling money (but hopefully with better odds than Vegas). Thus, if you have
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He can't be serious... (Score:3, Interesting)
Seriously, what kind of disruptive innovation has ever come from the MIT Media Lab? Companies have put money in there for years and gotten nothing in return.
By the way, looking for disruptive vs. incremental technology changes is complete and utter nonsense. Entrepreneurs look for where they can make money. There's plenty of money to be made in all kinds of places in our economy, ranging from mom and pop restaurants all the way up to the latest and greatest gizmo. Game changing technology might be interesting or it might not. The road is littered with companies who changed the game and then were crushed by other players.
Money is made with smart market analysis that asks what do people want and how much are they willing to pay. Throw in a way to keep competitors out, and you have the beginnings (but not everything) of a good startup whether you make new fangled ball bearings or web pages. MIT Media Lab not required.
Re:He can't be serious... (Score:2)
Yeah - hurray for artificial barriers such as DRM, propietary formats and bogus patent bullshit. Call me naive, but openness and actually being better than the competition is the only inclusive tactic I'll reward.
Re:He can't be serious... (Score:3, Insightful)
The difference between an "evil" barrier to entry and a "good" barrier to entry is marketing.
Take Google. They have a huge database of webpage information that they've spent millions of dollars gathering. Anyone who wanted to enter the search engine market would have to find an enormous amount of capital and gather those same webpages. Should Google share their internal webpage databases to an
Re:He can't be serious... (Score:2)
Re:He can't be serious... (Score:2)
Re:He can't be serious... (Score:3, Insightful)
The question there was about attracting funding. In that context, you're completely wrong.
Getting startup funding is about offering 10:1 odds on 100:1 money. Minor, incremental innovations generally don't get you 100:1 money because established players are better placed to take advantage of incremental change than you are. But you can get the advantage with disruptive change because you can be more nimble th
Re:He can't be serious... (Score:2)
Going to a VC for capital probably requires a technology with enough growth potential to warrant the associated ris
Re:He can't be serious... (Score:2)
For example, digital cameras were disruptive to film companies. They changed photography, were quickly adopted, and forever altered the film business. Digital photography was a big systematic shift that moved rapidly -- far faster than did film when it
Re:He can't be serious... (Score:2)
Disruptive Change (Score:3, Insightful)
I think that looking where everyone else is looking is the surest way not to find disruptive change. If you want to invent a disruptive technology, the last place to look is where everyone else is.
Re:Disruptive Change (Score:2)
I tend to agree. What we're really seeing on the web today are frantic attempts at product differentiation. More ways to deliver advertising. More ways to aggregate content from one place on the web into another place. Attempts to turn buy-once technologies into "ongoing revenue streams". Yawn.
If you want to do something "disruptive", look elsewhere than the Internet.
What we really need are some new ene
What a crock (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:What a crock (Score:3, Insightful)
I disagree, on three grounds. First, what the web brings is more of everything, makers and gawkers alike.
Second, innovation is synergistic. The first internet wave was much harder than the current one because we can now share so much more of the boring infrastructure stuff, letting us spend more time on the intere
The difference is... (Score:2)
To expand on your point (Score:5, Insightful)
But now with the Internet we are basically all connected, so it's basically like living in the same little village for your entire life. Especially since a record of what you say and do is kept on your home page, so you don't really need a third party to vouch for you. I can send off an email to the CEO of almost any company I'd ever want to talk to or work for.
Also, the fact that as credentialism replaced learning as the reason why most kids go to college, the quality of education greatly suffered. Now it's way more efficient to just sit in a library and read books than it is to go to lectures. I learn more reading a book or two that I did from most of my classes at Cornell, especially since colleges use extremely low quality textbooks most of the time. Some of the textbooks they used at Cornell had advertising in them! Which wouldn't have pissed me off nearly as much if they weren't not only completely useless, but also filled with scores of blatant errors.
Oddly enough... (Score:3, Insightful)
Frankly, I think the most significant thing undergraduate degrees teach people in preparing to enter nearly any field is how to deal with a hostile, overbearing, inefficient bureaucracy infested with sadistically egotistical ladder-climbing prats and their gaggles of sniveling sycophants.
In that sense, there is some worth to going to one of the cushier schools, since they are usually the worst cases and you're likely to come out with a nearly superhuman ability to navigate mountains of b.s. that would suffo
Re:Oddly enough... (Score:2)
As I've said (and been modded down for) before, paying your dues and working your way up the ladder is for suckers.
Re:What a crock (Score:2)
Gosh. Golly. (Score:4, Interesting)
Of course, the geeks built the Web, and were the first to know it was there and what it was capable of. As a result, the content of the early Web tended to be content of interest to geeks. That changed, happily, until the geeks developed streamlined means to manage and post new content, giving birth to 'blogs,' which are again dominated by geek topics. This too, is leveling.
Now, an awful lot of creative people like to call themselves "geeks" cuz it's (still) trendy, and an awful lot of geeks like to call themselves "creative" cuz they believe it will get them laid. But the hardcore shakers and shamen in each camp know enough not to dilute their efforts by dabbling; they just count on each other to work their respective money-attracting mojo.
nope (Score:3, Insightful)
What you have to remember is that good ideas are not distributed evenly. Some people are vastly smarter than others. Vastly more creative than others. Vastly *better* than others by any way you mean to quantify better. You may have access to the modern equivalent of the printing press, but that doesn't mean you can publish the modern equivalent of the Principia Mathematica (either one).
Blogs are an excellent example of this. Blogs are horrible. They allow people who are too lazy or too ignorant even to build their own website the ability to spread their tawdry and mindless blatherings to the rest of the world. People talk about blogs supplanting traditional news media in some ways, but this is true only because traditionally news media has become so watered down and useless that just about any form of media that doesn't talk to you like a child could supplant it. Blogs are *not* an improvement over a good newspaper... it is just that good newspapers are hard to find these days (the seattle times in pretty good though).
Re:nope (Score:2)
This seems to be the common sentiment, but I don't get it. I don't look at many blogs, and even then only rarely. How is their existence a problem? I think there's a misunderstanding that just because something isn't useful to you that it isn't useful. Most blogs are there for people to communicate with their family and friends. Just because they are publicly accessible doesn't mean they need to be publicly valuable. Should we restrict public
"Instrumentalism?" (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:"Instrumentalism?" (Score:2)
"So if she floats, she must be made of wood."
"Burn the witch!"
Mass Innovative Change? Hardly likely (Score:4, Insightful)
What the head of MIT's Media lab should have been saying is that there are a lot more people on the planet than there were before. With increased numbers over the whole and a constant percentage of "smart people," it would appear that smart people are on the rise.
In the overpopulation of our planet, we are witnessing a lot of smart people being born. We are also witnessing a lot of stupid people being born. Although there may be millions of intelligent humans out there now, there are still billions of stupid ones.
The group of individuals making the change is as small as ever..in terms of how much of the population they take up. And with more stupid people running around, change will happen just as slowly as before (try convincing billions that you are right!)
One last thought - Those making the changes have always wanted disruptive change, but look at the results of their desires. Communism would have been a massively disruptive change (on paper), but once it was implemented, people were able to smash it back down into the monarchy they were accustomed to.
Inkorrekt (Score:3, Insightful)
Sorry, but its true.
Disruptive change never comes about via the masses.
What masses. Masses are composed of people, individual units. Le Bon's contagion theory of mass psychology has been fairly comprehensively disproven, to my satisfaction at least. There is no group mind. Just because they are not assembled in a mob at this exact moment in time does not make them any more or less susceptible to crowd psychology (Turner and Killian's diffuse crowds), as in this case, the internet. Even marketing, t
Re:Inkorrekt (Score:2)
Finding this hard to believe, I did the math and came out on 115m^2 per person, which should be adequate for a small house and a nice lawn. There still is a problem on how to feed 6 billion people with only enough room for a herb garden each...
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Very little creativity on the Web today (Score:3, Informative)
Disruptive change is a mistake. (Score:2, Insightful)
"instrumentalism"? (Score:2)
Disruptive technology defined (Score:2, Interesting)
The other thing about change is that it is usually driven from the top or from the bottom. It usually doesn't come from the mu
View from the coal face... (Score:5, Interesting)
What is essential for a project to spread, other than being useful to the users, it the ability to replicate it on demand. With software, this is pretty easy. With hardware it is currently more difficult, but we're fixing that.
What astounds me is the inability of the commercial world and economists in particular to recognise that there are ways of creating disruptive technologies without being limited by the need to make a profit. I can see a two-teir world developing before my eyes, with the commercial sector deriding anything that is not profitable on the grounds that it'll never spread. Software is so far the only exception to this pseudo-rule, but within 2 years the same will start to apply to hardware as multi-material 3D printers become available for under $1,000.
Vik
Re:View from the coal face... (Score:2)
What astounds me is your implicit assumption that the commerical world would care about creating disruptive technologies for their own sake. Commercial companies are interested in making a profit. They don't care if the technology is disruptive, non-disruptive, or non-existent, as long as they can make
Re:View from the coal face... (Score:3, Insightful)
Vik
Re:View from the coal face... (Score:2)
Oh, the irony (Score:4, Insightful)
Trends say otherwise (Score:3, Interesting)
The Industrial Revolution was characterized by economies of scale. Large steam engines, huge factories, massive capital expenditures, etc. But this is the Information Age, which doesn't need economies of scale. Small is better, and the individual is rising in importance. The two centuries that gave us collectivism, groupthink and the centralization, are giving way to a time of individualism and decentralization.
Software is an example. The old industrialist model of software development is to have rows and rows of programmers sitting in cubicles, each working on one small part of the whole. The model promotes outsourcing to the cheapest possible programmer with the required skillset. But that model is rapidly fading away, to be replaced with small teams and distributed collaboration. In contrast to the article's premise, innovation in software is routinely performed by individuals.
Re:Trends say otherwise (Score:2)
Sure there was! And still is in places. The rows of desks have been replaced by cubicles, but the basic model is still with us in places. It the same model that allows a company to hand off development to faceless programmers half a world away. A great many companies still use the waterfall model and hand off development to large teams top-heavy with management, with superfluous process occupying most of a coder
more new economy BS (Score:2)
Resist the current temptation to make incremental changes to attract funding. It might get you off the ground,
Is this just another version if the new economy of the 90's? When we all threw out the basic laws of conservation, and thought that money could be grown from nothing. That we could totally recreate the economy in a new image, one in which customers
Re:more new economy BS (Score:2)
So the idea that incremental changes are a bad way to attract investors (at least the VC kind) has been established for many years. It's not an idea originating at MIT.
Re:more new economy BS (Score:3, Funny)
you didn't think this through far enough (Score:2)
No. 99.5 million kids wiill be pr0nsurfing and IMing. 500,000 kid
DANGER (Score:2)
Who wants to follow a badly conceived amateur? Learn the basics before trying to play expert. It is like consulting without experience.
Significant progress confirmed by meme theory? (Score:2, Insightful)
"Meme theory shows that the more information we all know, the more progress will occur. ...
We can think of the human brain as a computer: a meme processing unit (MPU). Most of what everyone thinks everyday has already been thought of, but, occasionally, a few memes come together in a way that has not yet been processed and progress occurs. Progress never comes in huge chunks, only tiny advancements at a time. Like coral, humanity's knowledge continually grows off the existing base.
Now, if you think of
Allright, how about some REAL disruptive changes.. (Score:2)
Second off, copyrights are dead. Anything that approaches that cause will be a worthy endeavor.
Third off, government backed moneys are going to die over the next few years (and all the programs, bonds, and promises that go along with it). Position yourselves to deal with that, and especially position yourselves in those old "barbaric" precious metals. How Iron
Wonderful (Score:3, Funny)
Disruptive Change? Yes, but... (Score:2)
Where have I heard this before. (Score:2, Funny)
Sorry. Didn't read the entire article, but c'mon...
(On the positive side, and FWIW, the only time I saw a working NeXT box was at the Media Lab...aound '93.)
Disruptive change, eh? (Score:2, Funny)
Disruptive Change (Score:2)
"Arise, you prisoners of starvation!
Arise, you wretched of the earth!
Re:The masses WILL innovate (Score:3, Insightful)
As always, big business and big government is the enemy of innovation.
Re:The masses WILL innovate (Score:4, Insightful)
I hasten to dissagree.
MIT is concerned with astonishingly advanced innovation, but that is the rarest form of innovation.
Most innovation is in smaller products with more creative thought processes using existing technology, than in creating whole new technologies. Thes smaller products and projects can often easily be something a person or two do and create a 10-50 million dollar company.
Lots of examples exist, but they really don't get the headlines, as the pizzazz is not there for news orgs.
Re:The masses WILL innovate (Score:2)
Re:It takes more than just innovation (Score:3, Insightful)
You either need money or need to know someone with money or just happen to get lucky to get those innovations to go somewhere. Given $50,000 to work w
Re:It takes more than just innovation (Score:2)
Re:It takes more than just innovation (Score:2)
Re:I do not concur (Score:3)
I'm the kind of person, ie a geek, that produces innovations with nearly every breath almost none of them are getting to people because of lack of time and money. I'm improvin
Re:I do not concur (Score:2)
Re:What makes you think innovation is good? (Score:2)
A job and stock are fine but they aren't going to make the world a better place. They maintain the status quo. Innovation is needed to improve the human condition and improving the human condition is t
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Re:infinite monkeys (Score:2)