Glowing Mosquitos Aid Malaria Battle 78
kfz.versicherung writes "The glowing mosquitos were created by attaching a gene for fluorescence found in jellyfish to a gene expressed only in a male mosquito's sexual organs. Even if this sounds funny, this technique is used to collect all males which are then sterilized and released in areas plagued by malaria flies. While sterile female mosquito can still transmit malaria, the sterile males will mate with the females but produce no offspring, so the insect population drops. An automated machine, capable of sorting 18,000 larvae per hour, detects fluorescence inside the larvae and a puff of air will divert the males into a separate area."
I don't get it (Score:4, Insightful)
Okay, why make their "gonads" flouresce if you're just gonna make'em sterile? Doesn't help in sorting the offspring.
This is what I gathered from TFA:
1 - Breed thousands of modified mosquitoes in a lab so the males have flourescent "gonads"
2 - Put them through a sorting machine that sorts out all the ones that glow
3 - Sterilize the batch that were glowing
4 - Release them into the wild and they'll hook up with the females
5 - Less baby mosquitoes
Problems that first occured to me with that:
1 - Why not just sterilize them all? Is that hard or something? It said that the females "still spread malaria" so maybe it's that only female mosquitoes suck blood. Thats what wikipedia says [wikipedia.org]. So I guess they just don't want to introduce a whole bunch of disease carrying insects.
2 - Are mosquitoes monogamous? Why will this cut down on their population? If the males are sterile, won't the females still want to breed or something? Wikipedia doesn't go into that...
Re:I don't get it (Score:2)
Re:I don't get it (Score:2)
Males don't bite, so if only males are released, then no "malaria-spreading bloodsuckers" will be released.
Re:I don't get it (Score:4, Funny)
Cost analysis:
genetically engineering mosquito for glowing gonad "feature" 5 million
cytometer detection machine that sorts mosquito larve gonad "feature" 8 million
sterilization machine to put the hate down on millions of mosquitoes 4 million
or
Flamethrowers and cheetoes for a weekend: 500 bucks
(plus the cost of tape and postage to send it in to AFHV later)
And to those who would rise up and argue that the mosquito shouldn't be killed off, just remember that a male mosquitos' diet consists of plant nectar, and they don't really need to suck your blood and give you, oh say: west Nile, encephalitis, yellow fever, dengue, malaria, etc..
It's the females that need the protein for reproduction and can piss you off or kill you to get it.
So instead of giving them glowing gonads, why aren't these guys altering the wingspan so they don't present a threat of contaigen or removing the gene that generates the "itchy chemical" gland? or I don't know, just killing them all off and accepting the fact that they were all living in standing water areas that didn't have an ecological influence on the world greater than the thousands of animals we've killed off already.
Re:I don't get it (Score:2)
I really think that there are more direct methods of addressing the issue expecially if we start altering their genetic makup. Rather than making glow in the dark gonads, we could address the actual issue of their annoyance or their ability to transfer bloodborne contaigens.
Don't misunderstand, I do think there are a lot of ways to do this but some are more direct than others and I prefer to see money spent wisely.
We could spend research money finding out why the mosquito is
Re:I don't get it (Score:2)
Yeah, it's called DDT.
Re:I don't get it (Score:2)
Re:I don't get it (Score:2)
Making mosquitos that don't bite people is pointless, as they need blood to reproduce--easier to just kill them or use sterile males to outcompete fertile males. Making mosquitos that don't transmit pathogens is extr
This just wont work! (Score:3, Funny)
Once the female mosquitos see the male mosquito gonads glowing, wont they suspect something is wrong??? I know my wife would never have sex with me if mine were glowing.
Just the opposite (Score:2)
Re:I don't get it (Score:2)
Prob2: Once the females mate, they die soon after. So in a way, yes they are monogamous.
Yes, only the females suck blood. As far as sterilization goes, that's not something that's standard on a large scale, AFAIK. As part of the Bill and Melinda Gates Grand Challenge these guys [isis-innovation.com] apparently are going to develop a more appropriate way.
Re:I don't get it (Score:2)
The theory is that you flood the area with sterile males (hooray! more itchiness!) so that when the females go to reproduce, the probability they'll mate with a fertile male is low. Eventually, the female will live her entire life w/o producing offspring and die. Sure, it's based on probability, but it should decrease the population of disease-carrying mosquitos (ie females). The caveat is that sterlizing the males may make the
Re:I don't get it (Score:2)
I understand the function (and failings) of the model. What I didn't understand is why not release both males and females that were sterile. I figured out why, and explained it. Male mosquitoes don't suck blood, and thus do not spread the disease. When you release them, they cannot infect anyone.
Sorry that I was unclear above. I guess I used an unconventional writing style. =[
Re:I don't get it (Score:3, Interesting)
The other thing is that you don't want the sterile males mating with sterile females - that's a waste of a sterile male. If you release large numbers of both sterile males and females, the chances of a sterile male mating with a sterile female are much higher, so the number of fertile females mating with sterile males will be much lower, which will make the whole process far less effective.
Re:I don't get it (Score:2)
Re:I don't get it (Score:3, Insightful)
Thank you for explaining about the mating =]. That was bugging me (pun unintended).
The article wasn't too specific on the source of the mosquitoes, but an engineered population makes more sense than a captured one. Also, I'm pretty sure that the mosquitoes are bred in a lab, to give'em all glowin' gonads. Thus, by "sterilize them all" I meant sterilze both the males and females of the lab population. Ultimately, the problem with that is to release both genders is to release a disease-spreading insect. That
misleading... (Score:1)
As far as the second concern, sterile insects still mate, its just that nothing happens in the end. The eggs are laid believed to be fertilized when in fact they aren't.
Re:I don't get it (Score:1)
Re:I don't get it (Score:1, Informative)
http://www.everythingabout.net/articles/biology/a
Re:I don't get it (Score:1)
But the strategy relies on being able to separate males from females, as sterile females can still transmit malaria. The problem is that, unlike some insects, the larvae are very difficult to sex.
Making the male larvae fluoresce solves the problem, and in fact makes them so easy to spot that the process can be automated. The researchers used a machine similar to a flow cytometer that had already been adapted to sort fruit flies.
Re:I don't get it (Score:2)
Yes, I did explain I understood that in my comment. I was a little unclear, because I used an untraditional writing style. What I did was bring up all the problems I found reading it, and try solve them. The intent was to help others who had similar misunderstandings. I should have been more clear on this.
So, I do understand the part abut releasing only the males, but I didn't understand why that would be very effective. It seemed to me that a sterile male would fail to impregnate a fertile female, and she
Re:DDT (Score:5, Insightful)
DDT resistant mosquitos appeared in 1960 and have spread pretty much everywhere. Using more DDT doesn't work since the mosquitos become more and more resistant due to overexpression of cytochrome P450. Meanwhile, things like fish, birds and people who happen to eat those fish or birds get increasing concentrations of DDT and eventually get poisoned or start seeing birth defects.
Unfortunately, we don't go through a few generations every few months and can't quickly develop DDT resistance like mosquitos. The falcons were just an indicator and continuing would have increased the incidence of birth defects in people.
Re:DDT (Score:1)
Smacks of discrimination to me (Score:2)
Re:Smacks of discrimination to me (Score:2)
No, no, it's only IBM that doesn't care if your gonads glow.
Try to get a job at Sun (chosen at random) and you hafta drop your pants =]
So the conversation went something like this... (Score:2, Funny)
Scientist 2: "Right, so how do we kill em?"
Scientist 1: "Well first we round up as many as we can possibly find."
Scientist 2: "Ahhh...then we kill em."
Scientist 1: "No no no, then we make their privates glow--but just the males."
Scientist 2: "Uh....why?"
Scientist 1: "So that they won't breed."
Scientist 2: "Right....but won't killing them also have the same effect?"
Scientist 1: "Sorry, can't hear you, this machine is busy sorting the 50,
Re:So the conversation went something like this... (Score:4, Insightful)
Seriously, why would you spend all that time and money building a machine to sort 18,000 larvae per hour instead of just building an equally impressive FLY KILLING MACHINE.
These mosquites aren't rounded up, they're bred. And they're sterile. They will breed, but not produce offspring. Releasing thousands of them into the wild will reduce the offspring of the wild population. And that's just reiterating the summary...
Of course, if you can build the fly killing machine, by all means do so.
Re:So the conversation went something like this... (Score:2)
killing them all isn't that easy, I suppose you could ddt but that's just nasty.
Re:So the conversation went something like this... (Score:2)
Logic (Score:2)
Let's say we have a population of 2x mosquitos, x males, and x females. Let's collect 2y mosquitos. Half of those will be male, and half female.
If we kill all of the mosquitos we collect, you end up with 2x-2y mosquitos left in the population.
Now, instead of killing all the mosquitos we collected, let's use the proposed method of killing all y females, and releasing y sterile males. The population of mosquitos is now 2x-y, which is worse than i
Re:Logic (Score:1)
The comparison you should probably be making is
Method 1:
a) Head out into the bush
b) Locate mosquito
c) Analyse gender of mosquito
d) Kill mosquito (if fulfils gender quota)
f) Repeat y times
with
Method 2:
a) Sort y genetically modified male mosquito larvae using automated mosquito-gonad camera/puffer thingy.
b) Wait for mosquito maturity
c) Release into wild
Given that you can be doing the next round of 2a whilst 2b is going on,
I would
Re:So the conversation went something like this... (Score:2)
Hold on a second... (Score:1)
Step 1: Alter a few mosquitoes using this expensive process.
Step 2: Allow fluorescence gene to propagate in the wild.
Step 3: Introduce machine that effectively ends the genetic line of fluorescing males.
Do they intend to keep running Step 1? I'd like to know how they expect to keep these flourescent males in circulation when they are constantly employing natural selection to end their genetic lines.
(That, and I'd like to see the actual paper... I can't find the articl
Reading comprehension (Score:2, Insightful)
The fluorescent gene will not propagate in the wild, because it is only attached to sterile mosquitos. The fluorescence is only used to sort the males from the females.
As for "step 3", you just made that up. Nowhere in the article or in the summary does it talk about using a machine to kill wild mosquitos after they've been allowed to multiply.
Re:Hold on a second... (Score:1)
Their idea, I think, is as follows -
Whereever there is a high incidence of mosquitoes, they will release millions of these sterilized mosquitoes in the wild. They should decrease the population in a jiffy.
Another option I can think of is to make the make the mosquitoes completely luminous.
This also should decrease the population, cos these mosquitoes would stand out in the night/evening, and thereby become quite an easy meal for the predators. Also the genes does pass on to the next gener
I. for one (Score:1, Funny)
Re:I. for one (Score:2)
Fighting Evolution... (Score:4, Insightful)
As a result, we now have resistent insects, resistent bacteria, and we're beginning to see new outbreaks of viruses that we thought we had eradicated.
We were trying to fight a faceless, undying mob by overpowering them with brute strength. Now, we're learning better. Instead of brute strength, we've begun to exploit our only advantage: intelligence. We're finding ways to use our enemies against themselves. Instead of multiplying in strength, we will help the insects to multiply themselves into oblivion.
Let's just hope we don't hasten the evolution of mammalian maternal traits in the insects in the process.
Re:Fighting Evolution... (Score:1)
What are the implications? (Score:2)
It's just as possible to be too smart for one's
Re:What are the implications? (Score:1)
Re:What are the implications? (Score:1)
There has to be a better way (Score:2)
Here's how it works.... (Score:5, Informative)
Whem a female mosquito has mated and found a blood meal (I forget the order of those two, but it doesn't matter), it will lay eggs.
Now, here's the trick: by captive breeding and then releasing zillions of sterile male mosquitoes, which will hunt down and mate with wild female mosquitoes, those eggs will not hatch, and the number of wild mosquitoes will go down. (Until the females evolve some defense like multiple matings.)
So you have *effectively* sterilized the wild females. This is a good thing.
You'd prefer not to release female mosquitoes, because even if they're sterile, they'll still suck blood and spread disease.
The article is about a technique for sexing captive-bred mosquitoes. By adding a very easy-to-see sex marker. None of this affects the generits of the wild population at all. They're just building an army of little biological robots that will hunt down and neutralize wild females.
Re:Here's how it works.... (Score:2)
What's the curve on repopulation for mosquitoes? How many eggs will be laid by successfully fertilized females, and how many of those will survive to reproduce?
Nice business model, BTW, the company that does this cannot ever stop, since complete repopulation would happen within a few years, I'm guessing.
I guess I'd have to add a blacklight to the bug zapper, though, to maximize my viewing pleasure.
Re:Here's how it works.... (Score:2)
That's the most romantic thing I've ever heard (on slashdot)
Until the females evolve some defense like multiple matings.
It's even simpler than that. Females who prefer males that don't glow in the dark will have a greater chance of passing on their genes
Re:Here's how it works.... (Score:1)
DONT STERILIZES THEM!!! (Score:2)
Nothing like sitting in the porch, staring out across the landscape and deciding when to shuck the evening BBQ in, to go indoor, when one can SEE the enemy approaching in increasing numbers.
I'd say make the entire population glow THEN sterilizes them.
Oh... flourescent and glow-in-the-dark are not the same thing??? Well, here's my idea above...
Re:DONT STERILIZES THEM!!! (Score:2)
Sexy (Score:1)
Wow, those must be some damn sexy male mosquitos.
I mean, a glowing dick... Looks cool and is very practical if you're in a dark room.
what's next (Score:1)
This is an outrage! (Score:2)
the poor Lowly Mosquito (Score:2)
Quite honestly, I think
For any arthopod or stat researchers. (Score:2)
Where are all the new species coming from? Where ever there are new species without a skelatal history (and none are forthcoming), that is an indication that it was recent evolution.
OTH, if you look where the species come from and you find skelatal history, then they have been around, but have simply not been seen.
Almost certainly, the recent evolution can be mapped and I would bet that it will be in areas of high mosquito concentrations. More importantly, the old s
Re:For any arthopod or stat researchers. (Score:2)
[dull monotone]
Yes, there are far more species in the Amazon than in Antarctica.
[/dull monotone]
Seriously though, it's a really intriguing concept... evolution caused by viruses. Hey, it could happen.
The truth, should we ever find it, will probably be something equally bizarre.
Bioluminescnece ... (Score:2)
Not just last week I was watching a National Geographic show whereby they were taking the genes which make fireflies glow, splicing it into the genes of the tumour causing stuff they did for research, and injecting it into mice.
The result was the cancerous timours which grew in lab mice produced enough light as to make the tumour visible to scanning equipment. This let them start to look at the way the tumours spread.
I won
Why stop with mosquitoes? (Score:2)
Do they understand evolution? (Score:1)
into oblivion. On the other hand, the offsprings which result from non sterile males will have an interesting characteristic. This will be in effect in 10 generations or something if not straight away. The females will just be turned off
by the glow males and will not mate
Re:Do they understand evolution? (Score:2)
This is a very common lab technique
Reporter Gene Technique (Score:2)
On behalf of Fireflies everywhere.. (Score:1)
Answer: Create males that only release Y sperm. (Score:1)
Re:Answer: Create males that only release Y sperm. (Score:1)
What the... (Score:1)