BitTorrent for Content Providers 100
snuvlorgin writes "ibiblio.org has entered the fray,
launching an enhanced BitTorrent site.
Among the torrent offerings (all legal) are
Linux kernels, distros, Project Gutenberg texts,
and the
ibiblio Speaker
Series, which includes videos of talks by Larry Lessig, Robin Miller, and Dan Gillmor. ibiblio developed and open sourced the Osprey and Permaseed software to make BitTorrent seeding reliable, persistent, and suitable for large-scale content providers. Yes, you can find these torrents later."
Great Idea for alternative content (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Bittorrent sucks (Score:1)
Re:Great Idea for alternative content (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Great Idea for alternative content (Score:3, Interesting)
You did read the protocol [bittorrent.com]? Since this is exactly how peers communicate!
The problem your transfers are slow is because you can't connect to enough peers (which can be fixed by either party by being connectable by either unblocking or forwarding a port).
Let's see. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Let's see. (Score:1)
Re:Let's see. (Score:2, Informative)
Download time increased!? (Score:4, Interesting)
For whatever reason i struggle to max out my 3MB pipe from anywhere but the fastest servers, yet with bittorrent i can get damn close on most transfers.
The biggest hinderence (that i see) to bittorrent is that you need to have a listner port open for good performance.
Re:Let's see. (Score:2)
The downside is that you have to have a client, but I bet that browsers will have integrated BT support soon (the new Opera does, FF has a plugin).
You know what I'd like to see? A protocol that, in cases of low load, performs similar to modern FTP/HTTP implementations (pause/resume, multi-sourcing, etc.) but switches seamlessly a swarming model when a certain threshold is met.
Maybe BitTorrent already does this, but it doesn't feel that way. When just starting a rare file (or even trying a popular fil
Re:Let's see. (Score:5, Funny)
(Yeah, I'm planning on suing the government and AT&T for retributions for the hardships and suffering our modem bound people have had to endure.)
Seriously though, the answer to the rare file dilemma is that the website that is hosting the torrents needs to have a server running Bittorent and all the files with intelligent prioritizing of the worst seeded files. So when there are other people to take the load the website can outsource it, when its rare the website will have to share the burden like it would have had to via http anyways.
Re:Let's see. (Score:2)
Federal government bans bittorrent (Score:5, Interesting)
On an upside those that have broken the rules are people who were downloading LINUX distros and no action was taken.
My point being I REALLY hope that bittorrent becomes an offical specified file transfer protocol. It might seperate it from the rest of the peer to peer crap that's tarnishing bittorrents legitimate use.
Federal government is beholden to Us The People (Score:1)
so the offical policy is that you are not allowed to use bittorrent FOR ANYTHING unless you have permission from the CIO.
And if the CIO flat out refuses to let you use the BitTorrent system to save money on updating federal computers, you can make a federal scandal about The Fleecing Of America and tell all the news media. We The People do what the TV tells us to do.
Re:Federal government bans bittorrent (Score:3, Funny)
torrent://symphonyos.com/torrents/symphonyos-al
Re:Let's see. (Score:3, Interesting)
As opposed to http and ftp, which somehow magically work without a client ;)
Seriously though, something like BT plugin in Firefox would probably help a lot.
Re:Let's see. (Score:1)
Instead of BT as an alternative to http/ftp... (Score:1)
I've looked at BitTorrent and haven't found this feature, which could be of use to me and hopefully others. I've been dealing with distributing Creative Commons licensed music, and have used BT very successfully. Obviously, BT is great for saving bandwidth costs and these types of musicians don't usually have the cash to pay for tons of downloads themselves.
This becomes a problem though if the last seed goes down (computer gets tu
Re:Instead of BT as an alternative to http/ftp... (Score:1)
Any decent client has these kind of options for seeding (I can only talk for Azureus (which also provides a tracker)):
seed atleast x% and after that only if there ar
Re:Instead of BT as an alternative to http/ftp... (Score:1)
Re:Instead of BT as an alternative to http/ftp... (Score:1)
So, a legitimate provider can just keep that initial seed running, rather than stop it after a few uploads; if they run the seed on the system that would have run the HTTP server for a HTTP download, your worst case speeds are
Re:Let's see. (Score:2)
Re:Too bad there aren't any fricking seeds (Score:2, Informative)
More widespread support (Score:3, Interesting)
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From off the starboard bow... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:From off the starboard bow... (Score:3, Funny)
As a reasonably intelligent Slashdotter, you would. As anyone else, you would answer that question with a blank look that says: "port? What's a port? All I know is my download didn't work."
Can't change the tracker's port as easily (Score:2)
Just changing the port that your program uses won't help if the torrent's tracker listens only on a port that your ISP blocks inbound and outbound. No, trackerless torrents don't work well yet because Azureus and BitTorrent clients use mutually incompatible protocols.
Re:More widespread support (Score:3, Informative)
Re:More widespread support (Score:1)
You still need someone to connect to
and these filters usually block the outgoing port
You might be able to receive and reply to connection requests, but you cannot initiate connections yourself.
Re:More widespread support (Score:2)
Re:More widespread support (Score:1)
But i would guess that azureus and co are only really popular with the heavy users, probably not the people that only want to download a gutenberg book.
ABC, torrentstorm, and the python variants of the orginal client use the standard ports afaik. Opera probably too.
Of yourse it can be changed, but 99% of the users won't botter, and why should they, if their connection is not blocked?
Re:More widespread support (Score:2)
Re:More widespread support (Score:2)
Tunnel the connection to a computer outside of the firewall, and you'll have it made.
Re:More widespread support (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:More widespread support (Score:1)
Re:Peachy (Score:2)
Re:Peachy (Score:1, Flamebait)
Or better shoot yourself and help the world be a smarter place.
Re:Peachy (Score:2)
No longer does the upstart need to be constrained by cost of things like bandwidth, which can get extremely expensive. Your anger is pointed in the wrong direction; torrents aren't the problem. If you hate corporations so, start a website that markets every
Re:Peachy (Score:5, Informative)
From Ibiblio.org
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Contributing to ibiblio.org
If you are interested in becoming an ibiblio.org contributor:
1. Read the Collection Criteria [ibiblio.org] to see if your interest will be served by working with us
2. Check out the services we offer contributors to see if we have what you need.
3. Hint: very few, if any, proprietary services will be provided, but many open source solutions are, can or will be offered on request.
4. Drop a note to help@ibiblio.org telling us:
* What your project will be
* What services you might wish to use
* How to contact you by phone (so we can work out any details and passwords)
* Anything else you think might be helpful
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One of the main things to be considered is keeping things up to date and making some sort of contribution to the public. It (should) be a given that the bigger distros will be properly maintained, as a good homebrew distro should, but a homebrew which is only a minor modification to an existing distro may not make the cut. If you've got a great modification, maybe you should see if it's more practical to distribute the modified packages instead of an entire distro.
Re:Peachy (Score:2)
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions
I love IBiblio! (Score:2)
A great repository of mirrors of just about everything that has ever been written and released, not to mention massive, MASSIVE, bandwidth. They are just friggin' cool - cooler than sharks with lasers on their heads!!!!1
Thanks guys! You guys rock!
Re:I love IBiblio! (Score:3, Interesting)
Ibiblio is the former sunsite, and has been a major contributor to the Internet for years.
Re:I love IBiblio! (Score:1)
they host a bunch of projects for me and and always are super nice when you need changes. If you have a project that is worthy, they are more than happy to host it for you.
go Ibiblio
Re:I love IBiblio! (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:I love IBiblio! (Score:1)
I can't find the pr0n :( (Score:1)
/.ed? (Score:4, Funny)
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PLEASE PLEASE (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:PLEASE PLEASE (Score:2)
I searched an utility last week. A small programm, about 300k zipped (to be exact, an extractor for some games packfiles).
The only source i could find was fileplanet. So i bit the bullet and made an account (not the paying kind, but still very "dont like").
Only to find out that there were x00 people before me in the row and i could expect my download to start in 68 minutes...
Well, i tried out a blind emule search (now that i could see the exact filesize in fileplanet) and got
Re:PLEASE PLEASE (Score:3, Insightful)
FilePlanet and others like them won't switch to torrents. If they make you wait in a queue they not only get to put ads on your screen for the entire time you wait, but they hope to get you to pay for instant member access. If the torrents could just be distributed without their strict control their business model would fail.
Re:PLEASE PLEASE (Score:1)
Yeah I k
Re:PLEASE PLEASE (Score:2)
A great idea. You could even call it FileRush.com [filerush.com], for example.
However, note that placing some game demos on torrents is a technical violation of copyright laws. Although the idea of game demos is that they are widely distributed to everyone, often the lawyers slap the same licenses on them as
3dgamers.com (Score:1)
Science Content and Torrent (Score:5, Interesting)
Much as I like... (Score:2)
Re:Much as I like... (Score:3, Informative)
Clifford Lynch: Speech on Scholarly Communications
And write a friendly note to your IT staff explaining that you seem to be having trouble getting it, apparently because the ports are blocked. Explain that it is relavent academic material that you need to consult. (Try to find something specific to your major, and with an academic title.) Whenever you run across something like this that has legitimate scholarly merit that is relevant to your courseload, write another friendl
A manual BitTorrent proxy (Score:2)
Whenever you run across something like this that has legitimate scholarly merit that is relevant to your courseload, write another friendly note explaining how you need access to it.
Given such a request, an IT staff member would probably investigate the request, wait for approval from the university's CTO, fire up Azureus himself*, download the file, and mirror it on the internal network. It would be like a manual BT proxy with all access controlled through the CTO.
Just make polite, courteous explana
Re:A manual BitTorrent proxy (Score:2)
Show your love with your wallet! (Score:1, Informative)
I am sure they could do with some more quad-Opteron boxes
Will this make it easier to give back? (Score:2)
Seeding lots of torrents on a server is somewhat annoying to do in that, as far as I can tell, there's no good non-GU
Re:Will this make it easier to give back? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Will this make it easier to give back? (Score:1)
Even with multiple torrents downloading on my max bandwidth, it rarely uses more than 3% of my cpu.
Re:Will this make it easier to give back? (Score:2)
Re:Will this make it easier to give back? (Score:2)
care to give idiotproof instructions to seed, say, debian?
Re:Will this make it easier to give back? (Score:2)
Already in the torrent business... (Score:1)
Yay. (Score:1)
Move on.
Project Gutenberg? (Score:1, Troll)
Tell me again by one website managed hosted on a 29.99 / month server wouldnt be enough to host all of the project gutenberg text downloads for the whole world?
For a bunch of supposedly "honest" computer people, so different from the "corrupt" lawyers and businesspeople always being bitched about here, this sure looks like an attempt to throw up some smokescreens to give bitTorrent the appearance of legitimacy. "Honest" people wouldn't have to resort to such actions, I would have thou
BBC video over IP pilot (Score:1)
Essentially, the system uses a custom media player (with in-built DRM) and p2p software to distribute segments of the file between users. Its architecture is very similar to Bittorent (in as much as a central seed server exists). If the pilot is successfull, it is likely that this technology could find its way into the set-top boxes of the future. This is a real possibility given that the UK telecoms network is soon to be
Anime Trailers on BitTorrent (Score:2)