Doctorow and Stross Release Latest Novels for Free 236
FleaPlus writes "Two prominent science fiction authors have recently released their newest
novels as free downloads to coincide with their in-store releases. The first is Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town, by Cory Doctorow. This is an unconventional story about an entrepreneur (who happens to be the child of a mountain and a washing machine) who gets involved in a scheme to blanket Toronto with free wireless mesh network, among other things. The second is Accelerando, by Charles Stross, which tells the tale of three generations of the Macx family (beginning with perptually-slashdotted venture altruist Manfred Macx) in the years leading up to and beyond a technological singularity."
DRM (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:DRM (Score:3, Insightful)
DRM does work. It doesn't have to work all the time. As long as it is still easier to purchased DRM'd stuff than search for cracked stuff on the internet there will still be sales of it and people will make money. People here kid themselves that
Re:DRM (Score:5, Insightful)
You say a protection scheme works for a short while. With the latest protection schemes, they were hacked within a few days; most people wouldn't even have had the time to buy the player yet.
So for the benefit of just a few days of additional income, DRM inconveniences all paying customers for the rest of the DRM's existence.
DRM doesn't work since nobody who matters benefits, not the companies nor the paying customers.
Re:DRM (Score:4, Insightful)
Maybe it doesn't stop a core of people who know how to apply the patches, upgrade thier firmware or browse warez sites but there are plenty of people who wouldn't have a clue. These are the people the content providers have to muddle to keep them in the shops and they are the majority. It doesn't have to be impossible just inconvienient.
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Maybe it doesn't stop a core of people who know how to apply the patches, upgrade thier firmware or browse warez sites but there are plenty of people who wouldn't have a clue. These are the people the content providers have to muddle to keep them in the shops and they are the majority. It doesn't have to be impossible just inconvienient.''
Err... You kind of lost me there. The people who get things illegally
Re:DRM (Score:2)
You're missing the point. They don't need a clue -- they can just nab a copy from someone else who does.
See Microsoft's Darknet paper.
Re:DRM (Score:2, Interesting)
Here's the technical reason: I don't need to be a cracker to break your DRM. I only need to know how to search Google, or Kazaa, or any of the oth
Re:DRM (Score:2)
Exactly! And these are EXACTLY the people who go and buy the legal stuff ANYWAY!
Which makes DRM just a way to raise costs on the product to justify a higher price tag ("See! Those pirates forced us to triple our profit margin!") It's like the oil companies - "Oh, woe is us! There's no oil left! We have to triple our profits this year!"
Makes you wonder if the RIAA is the one doing all t
Re:DRM (Score:2)
But here's the problem: unless your technology explicitly precludes the possibility of freely redistributed content, it doesn't matter that only a few people will break the DRM. They just find the right off-shore host to upload it to and suddenly anyone in the world can download it and play it without having to repeat the process themselves.
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Then again, Cory tends to ignore the fact that being a blog celebrity also helps him sell books, instead just focusing on the fact that he allows free downloads. Some Joe Schmoe that didn't already have some kind of following but put books out for free download would most certainly not do as well as Cory.
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I would have to say that the free-book giveaway has probably greatly helped his success. As for the Joe Schmoes, well, your Internet's right the
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I don't pay because the stuff isn't available otherwise--I pay for the service of providing the material in a convenient, readily available format guaranteed by the originator to be complete as he intended to present it. I'm carrying Stross's book around with me at the moment. The fact that it i
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Exampl
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Nobody buys product because it's got DRM. Unless it gets in their way, nobody even notices DRM. So saying anybody is "prevented" from downloading free stuff because of DRM is nonsense. Most people buy stuff because of impulse purchases or because they don't know about or know where to find the free stuff.
That will change as broadband becomes ubiquitous and the industries move to online purchases of product. Once people make a habit of searching for product on the Net, they'll suddenly st
Don't want to sound cynical but (Score:3, Insightful)
Being anti DRM is the flavor of the month with a certain demographic. This little rant above and the release of a non DRM'd book is great marketing. Look he got himself posted on slashdot!!!!
It is a bit like Metallica in reverse. Hard angry men encouraging other young angry men to break societies rules but wait
Just as Metallica is hard and angry for *marketing* purposes when it suits them I can't quite believe this guy is anti
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Re:Don't want to sound cynical but (Score:2, Insightful)
Why can't you take a stance or even a stand without it being a marketing move? It's certainly issues they (Metallica and this author) would know about, it's not like their injecting their opinions into world politics or something.
Re:Don't want to sound cynical but (Score:2, Insightful)
Metallica are *hard angry men* for marketting purposes.
Docotwrolwow ( or whatever ) is *anti DRM* for marketing purposes.
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Metallica tells people to go out and break societies rules because that message matches thier audiences demographics.
Doctorwatchimac tells people to go out and break DRM because that message matches his audiences demographics
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Metallica spat the dummy when people did just as they told them to and broke societies rules. It just happened that th
Re:Don't want to sound cynical but (Score:5, Interesting)
Well, the last time it happened [boingboing.net], I scanned it back in and re-released it under a CC license.
Re:Don't want to sound cynical but (Score:2, Insightful)
"Whoever wrote this doesn't know a thing about Kurt Vonnegut!"
I've really enjoyed EST and DAOITMK, and I'm looking forward to your latest. In my opinion, the cover art alone should be enough to move physical instances of it.
Thanks for posting that. (Score:3, Interesting)
I've always been in your camp where DRM is concerned. However, I understand some subtle thing I'm not sure I did before.
Let me know if I have this right, because it's important:
In a world of interconnected people and computers, information flows more or less freely. It has to if the whole thing is going to actually be able to do anything of value to us.
I've got a work in the hopper right now. I think I'm going to do what
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But it is no secret that I have no love for Cory. I think his milatant attitude is not helping the cause for copyright reform and relastic DRM soltutions.
Re:Don't want to sound cynical but (Score:2)
"Cory does *not* make his is living off..."
Sorry
Re:Don't want to sound cynical but (Score:5, Funny)
It's news to me, anyway. Does that mean you don't want your birthday present? Crap. What am I going to do with this Speak and Spell I modded to include "soltutions" and "milatant"?
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Re:DRM (Score:5, Interesting)
A few points worth keeping in mind:
There's a tendency around here to consider what can happen to the exclusion of what likely will happen. That is, just because there's a way to copy something doesn't mean enough people will go to the trouble to do so. There's no theoretical problem with copying paperbacks, but the average Joe doesn't have the time or the equipment, and most in the American system get their books from legal stores.
However, as with most parts of the debate, this digital revolution introduces a new twist: once something is broken, it can spread quickly. You don't have to re-break it for each copy. So you have a legal network and an illegal network sitting next to each other, struggling for supremacy.
I think what it comes down to is that people who want to control how easy it is to get to something can do so, but only by a matter of degree. It will always be possible to get an illegal copy of anything digital. But they can probably continue to make it difficult. This might be wrong, though; maybe there is no effective stranglehold that can be put on p2p traffic as bandwidth grows. Maybe file distribution systems will allow total anonymity for everyone in a more practical sense than Freenet. I'm not sure.
Let's try to look at the possible futures:
1. Total DRM failure:
KaZaA networks get better and better, cleaner and cleaner. DRM is cracked constantly and repeatedly struck down in court.
It seems that here there are still several possibilities.
2. Partial DRM failure:
What we have now. DRM and similar efforts makes it hard work to get stuff illegally, but easy enough. We continue with the current system, where there's a class of people who pays, for one reason or another (usually to avoid the difficulties and risks of illegal copying), and a large class that downloads whatever they want and pays for little. The system takes a hit but continues for quite some time. Then things get hazy.
Meanwhile, DRM is making a lot of problems for people who are just trying to move things player-to-player. People lose their music and get upset.
3. DRM general success:
Re:DRM (Score:2)
Artistic anarchy augmented by voluntary payment. People buy from iTunes or donate because they honestly want -- or are convinced by PR campaigns -- to support the artists they like. I think this is sort of wishful thinking. It might go for a while. But people don't like to spend money. Maybe this will blend into the 'patron' model, with a few rich people doing basically this.
I think smart, aware and well-wishing people will want to encourage artists with the right attitude. People like th
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The key here is to understand that while people might not pay directly for the work in question be
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And what happens? Most people buy games (possibly because we feel the makers of the game deserve our money), and the indu
New Business Model (Score:3, Insightful)
This suggests a very reasonable business model for musicians if no other IP authors. Hmm...
Re:DRM (Score:4, Insightful)
They are forced to watch trailers on many disks (Sixth Sense for one), can't screenshot or record a quick excerpt, and often can't play it to secondary video devices.
This world of DRM Success shows that nobody in charge cares about the customer. Stores refuse to take back broken movies like Sixth Sense, or even ones that for a software glitch refuse to work in computer players (I have a few that won't play in PowerDVD or Xine). And then there's the fact that using non-authorized software is illegal. I'm not allowed to try to fix this.
DRM is never going to not suck - there will always be reasons for wanting to prevent things that people are free to do with unprotected media like books (annotating, removing unwanted pages, skipping dull crap). Studios don't want you to do anything to their media, or watch it any way other than they intend. Allowances for consumer choice would be a hole their ideal total DRM, as such, they'll fight against you ever getting choice.
really retarded DRM... (Score:4, Informative)
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Stross totally rocks (Score:4, Interesting)
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Re:Stross totally rocks (Score:2)
Just finished reading Singularity Sky last week, and am about 2/3s through Accellerando, and it's really the most interesting two books I've read in a long time. Although nothing like Known Space/Ringworld, the writing reminds me of Larry Niven in his prime.
Just my opinion, but I really enjoyed Sing
favorite doctorow pieces (Score:5, Informative)
0wnz0red [salon.com] is my favorite of Doctorow's. Some of his other short stories published on salon.com are Truncat [salon.com], Anda's Game [salon.com] and Liberation Spectrum [salon.com].
Also, slashdot has previously covered Cory in an O'Reilly interview [slashdot.org] and his take on DRM [slashdot.org]. There is, of course, more [google.se].
I smell new business opportunities (Score:3, Interesting)
Who's going to bind them? Well, that's where the new business opportunities come in. Small-scale production of books is wholly different from the large scale printing that is the norm nowadays. And as we lower the threshold to getting one's work published, I think we're in for seeing more and more interesting works appear. Printed GNU/Linux manuals, perhaps?
Re:I smell new business opportunities (Score:2)
In addition, there's at least one company working on a small cheap print on demand / binding machine intended to be cheap enough for bookstores to offer print on demand in store.
It's called Print-On-Demand (Score:2)
Offspring from washing machines-- B-O-R-I-N-G (Score:4, Funny)
Dammit, we already have an overabundance of stories about children bred from washing machines. Can't these people come up with something original???
Beyond? (Score:2)
Re:Beyond? (Score:3, Insightful)
Let's play Cory Doctorow Bingo (Score:4, Funny)
Charles Stross novels (Score:2)
Stross' "Singularity Sky" is a great read, if a bit odd. While reading it I did get the impression that it relied on knowing beforehand what a singularity was, and what causality violations are. It had a kind of spent-the-last-few-years-reading-slashdot mentality, and I worried that it relied on too much geek-background to be widely enjoyed.
I finished "Iron Sunrise" a month ago... also a cracking read. Starts with a fantastic description of a star being "iron bombed" and its subsequent destruction, along
New Things? (Score:4, Interesting)
You academic types rave over Neil Stephenson while the people like Cory are doing far, far more to bring understanding to the common folk.
Cory is well grounded and hangs out with the like of Lawrence Lessing and that tart Xeni (NSFW) plus the other crew over at Boing-Boing.net
Good Stuff, fellow
My sig sucks, but it plays over a modem to this day.
What about printing? (Score:2)
- dshaw
Re:What about printing? (Score:5, Informative)
Yup, you can print the book out. It'll cost you as much as buying the hardcover and the result will be less pleasant to read, but you can do it.
You can give copies to other folks. The hitch is: you aren't allowed to sell it. Neither can the people you give it to. If you violate that part of the license, publishers' lawyers will come after you.
Again: you're only granted these rights for the book, as a book. You can't edit or remix it, or make a movie based on it, without asking me for permission. (Clue: I'm not hard to get in touch with.)
If you strip the internet out of the equation, basically you've got roughly equivalent rights to my book that you'd have to a book you borrowed from the public library -- except nobody's going to fine you if you're late returning it. Which is the whole idea of the exercise.
Re:What about printing? (Score:5, Informative)
Many publishers are distributing advanced reading copies to blurbers, chain-buyers and reviewers in this format. I find it very convenient since it let me carry around a dozen copies of the book in the months before it was coming out to give to reviewers and blurbers I met in my travels.
By contrast, the traditional system for ARCs (still in use in the majority of cases) is to print and bind a softcover facilime of the edition for advance distribution to the trade. These "proofs" or "bound galleys" cost more than the hardcover to print (on a per-unit basis) and are in perpetually short supply -- it's heartbreaking to get an inquiry from a major newspaper or magazine for a review copy of your book before it's printed and to find out that all the ARCs have been distributed and there's no budget to print more. The low cost and nonexistent setup charges for printing galleys laid out like the PDFs I'm distributing means that your editor's assistant can just print off and staple together another galley whenever there's a demand.
Re:What about printing? (Score:2)
Both Doctorow's and Stross's work are released under the Creative Commons [creativecommons.org] license. They are explained here [creativecommons.org]. There are several variants, but they only differ in what you can or cannot do to redistribute the work. As far as what you do in the privacy of your own home, they are all the same: they say that you can do whatever you want with the work. And, yes, that includes printing. It's also OK for others to print it for you, even if they charge you for the privilege.
Re:What about printing? (Score:2)
I figured this was a simple case of RTFA... until I read Cory's license! The license is a new CC [creativecommons.org] license, Developing Nations 2.0 [creativecommons.org]. IF you live in a developing nation (using a UN definition) you can:
Baen Free Library (Score:4, Interesting)
Eric Flint, an author and acting librarian for the above library, points out that sales of the in-print versions of some of his books actually went up after posting them for free in the online library. I read some of David Webers books there, and went out and bought them; despite the fact that the genre (space-opera) was not one I would usually go for. Eric points out in one of his articles on the site (Prime Palaver #1) that the biggest obstacle facing little known authors (and thats the vast majority of them) is their obscurity. Publish free on the internet, and people will read your books, tell their friends, and go on to buy the books you subsequently write. Perhaps that explains why sales go up when you give stuff away for free; I can't see how the same logic wouldn't apply to music.
I bought the entire suite of Schmitz "Hub" novels (Score:2)
After first reading them online on the Baen site, I realized they fell within the small category of "good for infinite re-reading" books, and bought hardcopies from amazon.
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kashani
Free SciFi? - Check Scalzi's "Agent to the Stars" (Score:2)
It's an entertaining story about a benign race of aliens that want to befried humanity. However, they look like giant globs of snot and communicate via a complex smell-based language, many of whose smells are thoroughly repulsive, if not completely nauseating to humans. In order to figure out how
Let it be said (Score:5, Insightful)
Technological singularity (Score:3, Informative)
It's collaboratively created and published with a Creative Commons license.
Not a good long term strategy (Score:2, Insightful)
Also available in Second Life (Score:2)
Just finished Someone Comes to Town (Score:3, Informative)
Anyway, check out Eastern Standard Tribe [craphound.com] and his first novel Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom [craphound.com]. Both of these are also available for free download from the above linked sites.
Re:Just finished Someone Comes to Town (Score:2)
The flashbacks interrupt the story flow, and little devices he uses are sometimes painful. Especially that device that repeats a single sentence and fills in content in parenthesis. The characters are memorable and the dialogue was good. But I felt like I wasn't getting it. Li
Re:Just finished Someone Comes to Town (Score:2)
Not just the famous authors (Score:5, Interesting)
Unknown authors also release their novels free on the net [jockmurphy.com]. Then they use venues like Slashdot to help get the word out. For example, I am doing that just now. Oh wait, I've said too much...
OK that was shameless self promotion, and I'll not repent. But it is great that more established authors are out there doing this. It adds an air of legitimacy to all of us who are trying to use alternative means of publishing or promoting our works.
Re:Not just the famous authors (Score:2)
I'd like to say that I rode back into town like the conquering hero, but that would be a lie. I didn't even slink in through the back door. There was no one who knew I was coming back, which I suppose echoes they way I left.
In the first s
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Someone Comes to Town, Someone Leaves Town? (Score:2)
Voluntary choice to publish without DRM is OK (Score:2)
We already live in this perfect world. All choices in this matter are voluntary.
Nipple (Score:4, Funny)
Creative Commons Developing Nations License (Score:2)
In essence, it says that you can not only download the work, but you can also make money on it - as long as you live in a developing country, and do not make any money on it in a High-Income country.
Way cool.
Re:Creative Commons Developing Nations License (Score:2)
Well.. yes. That's one of the things you can do. I guess you wouldn't succeed if you didn't add any value to it though. I believe that residents of developing nations of more cost sensitive than those if high income countries.
If you add value though, you wouldn't be ripping people of, would you? Added value could, for example, be any or a mix of the following:
* Printing
* Translation
* Public
Accelerando Is Good! (Score:2)
I've read it. Very cool stuff in there about future tech.
The cat is the coolest character. A real Transhuman!
Kelly Link (Score:2)
I like to tell people that she's the female Neil Gaiman -- she's writes with a similar adult fairytale sense -- but she's a much deeper and more mature writer. Check her out, tell a friend.
Re:Good luck, suckers (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Good luck, suckers (Score:3, Interesting)
Daniel
Re:Good luck, suckers (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Good luck, suckers (Score:3, Insightful)
Hints: you need a good (around $10) antiglare "screen-protector" and a book-reader with "RTA-like" scrolling. For PalmOS I may recommend this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/palmfiction/ [sourceforge.net]
Re:Good luck, suckers (Score:3, Informative)
And it only takes one scratch or spillage or dropping to ruin that $200. A book can take all sorts of abuse, like months in the bottom of my bag. Yeah it'll
Re:Good luck, suckers (Score:2, Interesting)
But I also like to have over a hundred fiction and reference books, TV/Movie transcripts, opinion columns, and all my project's documentation on my Palm. I can grep for anything and annotate anywhere without writing (ruining) paper. I can read it anywhere and choose from any title in real time. On the bus, business trip, airport terminal, or waiting in line. No need to decide what books to take on a trip with limited luggage space. I don't know how many times in the Pre-
E-books in the bathtub? No thanks.... (Score:3, Interesting)
Stross is not no-name, troll (Score:3, Informative)
Cory gets published a lot in his sets of circles
Re:I'm guessing they won't get read. (Score:2)
Re:I'm guessing they won't get read. (Score:2)
Re:Can I redistribute them? (Score:5, Informative)
In the case of my own, I've picked no-derivs no-commercial; as long as you're not redistributing the book for profit or creating new works derived from it, I don't mind what you do.
Re:Can I redistribute them? (Score:2)
(Seriously, though. I've truly enjoyed everything I've read of yours, and I'm impressed that you decided to release under Creative Commons. Been following Manfred in Asimov's for a couple years now, and looking forward to following the clan further in Accelerando.)
Re:Free as in Crap (or, "if it were any good,...") (Score:2)
Re:Free as in Crap (or, "if it were any good,...") (Score:2)
This book, like all Cory Doctorow's other books, are published in paper form as well. If you don't like getting them for free, hop over to Amazon [amazon.com] and buy them.
Same goes for Charles Stross [amazon.com]
Re:Fodder for net-publishing statistics (Score:2)
Or it could just be that they suck. Big-time. And word has gotten around. The summaries don't exactly leap out at me, and there are a TON of free works out there on the world-wide-web that are good (thanks in large part to Project Guttenberg).
Having said that, I've bookmarked the stories and will be checking them both out in the ne
Re:Okay, so dRM's bad, right... (Score:2)
* Short Term
In the short term, I'm generating more sales of my printed books. Sure, giving away ebooks displaces the occasional sale, when a downloader reads the book and decides not to buy it. But it's far more common for a reader to download the book, read some or all of it, and decide to buy the print edition. Like I said in my essay, Ebooks Neither E Nor Books, digital and print editions are intensely complimentary, so acquiring one increas
Re:Okay, so dRM's bad, right... (Score:3, Interesting)
Apparently some people will never be willing to pay for certain content. For myself I like it when I can decide if I like music enough to pay for it before buying. My reason to buy is, that I will listen more often to the CD and not just once. So what he does with the book is handy. Else I would have to read it in the store for a part (up to 5%, did that a lot with bo
Re:Okay, so dRM's bad, right... (Score:2)
It seems that the current business model for authors who provide non-DRM digital copies is to give away the digital copies and sell the dead tree copies. It is the license model that they have chosen for these books and it appears that at least some of the authors believe that releasing non-DRM digital copies improves the sale of dead tree copies. These au
Re:great way to go (Score:2)