Integrated Circuit Inventor Jack Kilby Dead at 81 197
geekotourist writes " Jack Kilby , inventor of the integrated circuit, one winner of the 2000 Nobel Prize in Physics (Robert Noyce died in 1990), died June 20th after a brief battle with cancer. In 1958 he invented the foundation for a trillion dollar industry as a substitute for going on vacation." Update: 06/22 02:03 GMT by T : Kilby was 81, not 91 as the headline originally indicated.
... god rest his soul (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:... god rest his soul (Score:2, Funny)
American Giant Without the Pedigree (Score:1, Insightful)
The truth of the matter is that education is only one of many prerequisites for earth-shattering technical success. The other components are an environment that encourages free thinking without the shackles of tradition (e.g. ancestor worship in China and the caste sys
Re:American Giant Without the Pedigree (Score:5, Insightful)
He attended University of Illinois at Urbabna Champaign... I don't know about 1947, but today, UIUC is a top engineering school. #4 according to the 2006 USNews ranking. Nobody in their right mind would suggest that you *can't* be successful without a good education, but an overwhelming majority of people who have made groundbreaking discoveries have.
free thinking without the shackles of tradition... living environment which is comfortable (i.e. where people do not lie, cheat, and steal)
*Sob* I never reaized I was living in this paradise filled with saints. But you're right... I just looked out of the window and noticed the faint halos around all my fellow american's heads. Dear George W. Bush. Thank you for your unrelenting honesty, for not shovelling taxpayer's money into the pockets of a few cronies, and for eschewing religous and traditional shackles and allowing science to grow unfettered.
Dude seriously though. Open your eyes a little. The US is being left behind in more fields than I can count. While we debate whether to teach Creationism in schools instead of evolution, an increasing fraction of significant breakthroughs these days are coming from Japan, South Korea and China. Funding agencies like NSF have had their budgets slashed to the point where researchers who's have several grants funded a year have been unable to get a single grant in the past several years. DARPA has decided to stop funding research that doesn't produce and "immediate military benefit". NASA is being forced to work on ambitious projects without being given adequate funds to pursue those without cancelling their science projects.
This administration is pursuing a dangerously short-sighted policy, and while people like you are waving flags and sticking bumper stickers on your SUVs proclaiming how great America is, the rest of the world is rapidly catching up. Once existing grants run out (and we're at the point where that's starting to happen), graduate school enrollments will plummet and the wonderful research instututes that have kept America on top all this time will effectively have their throats cut.
Blind patriotism like yours is counterproductive and dangerous.
Re:American Giant Without the Pedigree (Score:1, Insightful)
The fact that Jack Kilby went to measly state schools and, armed with his education and
Re:American Giant Without the Pedigree (Score:2)
Who cares if you're parents or most of the people you know are uniformed about which s
Re:American Giant Without the Pedigree (Score:2)
Actually, it does.
But it's not known for its typing major.
Re:American Giant Without the Pedigree (Score:2)
When I was a young man, it was well known that the easy way into the likes of Yale was to say you wanted to major in "applied science" or whatever they called engineering in their endearingly anachronistic way.
Re:American Giant Without the Pedigree (Score:2)
From http://www.publications.uiuc.edu/info/rankings.ht m l [uiuc.edu]:
"U.S.News & World Report rates Illinois as one of the top 10 public national universities that grant doctoral degrees, according to a 2004 ranking of America's best colleges.
Illinois is among the nation's top 20 universities that grant doctoral degrees, according to an Associated Press compilation of 1995 rankings by the National Research Council.
Kiplinger's Persona
HAL 9000 developed at UIUC (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:American Giant Without the Pedigree (Score:2)
Was Kilby essential to the invention of the chip? (Score:5, Insightful)
First, I mean no disrespect to Kilby -- he clearly was an innovator of the first order and an accomplished inventor. But to say that without him, slashdot would not have happened is to misread the broad sweep of history in general and the history of chips in particular. So many great ideas bubble out of the context of the time, not the minds of some unique person. Eras are primed for particular inventions. Even the IC was essentially invented by two independent inventors [xnumber.com]-- don't forget Robert Noyce who also "invented" the chip. Kilby's chip may have come a few months earlier, but Noyce's chip was on silicon.
At worst, without Kilby, the IC would have been delayed half a year and all of us with have slightly lower post-counts.
Re:Was Kilby essential to the invention of the chi (Score:2)
"It's astonishing what human ingenuity and creativity can do," he said. "My part was pretty small, actually." Whenever people would mention that Kilby was responsible for the entire modern digital world, he liked to tell the story of the beaver and the rabbit sitting in the woods near Hoover Dam. "Did you build that one?" the rabbit asked. "No, but it was based on an idea of mine," the beaver replied.
You will be remembered... (Score:4, Funny)
Thanks for everything!!!
Visualize Whirled P.'s
Re:You will be remembered... (Score:2)
Graduate of Great Bend High School [jackkilby.com], Great Bend, Kansas [wikipedia.org] (population 20,000), which is the county seat of Barton County, Kansas, which is named for Clara Barton. Great Bend is named thusly due to its location near a large bend in the Arkansas river (pronounced there as "Ahhr-Kansas").
There are road signs visible to all people driving into Great Bend on the state highways that enter town, saying something to the effect of, "Great Bend, Birthplace of Nobel Prize Winner Jack Kilby".
Great Bend's Paper, the Gre [gbtribune.com]
It's a sad day indeed. (Score:2, Interesting)
Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:1, Interesting)
Many nights I've sat here staring at this computer trying to think of a way to make my job easier. Unfortunately, the only way to do that is to toss the entire system
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:2, Insightful)
How have computers required us to live by their schedules? I have yet to use a computer which demands its users to accord to a strict schedule. If you are talking about IT, it's the same with any industry which requires maintenance; machines break at unfortunate times.
I think it's pretty presumptuous to assume what a scientist wants or doesn't want. The asocialism that you describe is hardly something inherent to computers, but rather around the culture of the modern business world.
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Re:Slaves to humanity (Score:2, Interesting)
Then shouldn't we be going home earlier?
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Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:1, Funny)
Amen to that, Brother. I'm working on it and will post my design for a disintegrated chip very soon now.
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:1)
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:1)
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:2)
Okay, I'm confused. Because the computer isn't doing scientific calculations, you're not actually using it?
Not sure how you can avoid using the computer yet still
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:2)
While I'm sure the IC would have been developed without this man eventually, it could have taken a lot longer and this mans initiative prevented the delay.
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:5, Insightful)
More realistically, he was a smart person, and realized that humans like and need to work. Or should we all model ourselves after Paris Hilton?
Increased workload? Less human contact? Bullshit. The microchip brought us manufacturing automation and advanced communications, amongst many other things. Faster and more transparent communication has brought us more individual involvement in world events.
The problem is not in the computer, it is in your mind.
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:2)
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:2)
I don't imagine that Kilby thought it would lead to less human contact, less face to face time, and less free time for everyone. He probably thought of it as a way to increase efficiency and ultimately reduce our workload.
1) Less human contact? What about cell phones and the Internet? IM and email? Satellites communications? The abilility for at a very low cost to communicate with anyone in the world over the Internet? Human beings are far more connected now then they were.
2) Less face to face t
Wipe those tears away (Score:1)
LOL buddy, brush those tears from your eyes, he didn't invent your nemesis (the computer), just the integrated circuit [wikipedia.org].
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:2)
Our circuits and algorithms have made some things infinitely easier, while their current forms have made others incredibly hard. That is no reason to just shut it down and go home. It's going to require out-of-the-box thinking, and that usually comes from fr
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:2)
How incredibly wrong he was.
Is it just me or did you attribute a thought to someone else and then claim that they were wrong?
Wow. Were you simply not thinking, or do you do this all the time? I'm quite surprised. Perhaps you can demonstrate your technique by telling me what I'm thinking and how I'm so wrong about it.
-Adam
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:1)
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:5, Insightful)
We spend a smaller portion of our monthly budget on food than ever before, even as our average caloric intake has climbed nicely. While the proportion of money spent by the average household has not changed much, the square footage of the average house has shot through the roof.
The actual amount of time spent at work, on average, has been fairly steady, to perhaps dropping some. What we can buy, and what we can do with our income is generally more and better than ever.
Sorry. Go back to 1950. Houses are small, often unheated, or heated only with fireplaces. Air conditioning was still reserved for the "upper classes". TVs, if they existed, were black and white. Telephone coverage was spotty. Racism is/was alive and well. Food was expensive, unless you happened to be a farmer, and then, only certain types of food (what you grew) was cheap.
I wouldn't want to go back, and neither would you. Go back to your relaxed, comfortable computer desk, and enjoy the comforts that they only dreamed of in 1958, and shut up.
Computers have done wonders in improving our productivity, but at the cost of making humans part of the machine. We live according to the schedule of the computer rather than the other way around.
Oh, man. This is just so much ball cheese. Take a look at manufacturing jobs in the 1950s. (You know, manufacturing, that's now highly automated, often done by robots controlled by microprocessors?) An assembly line is essentially a giant machine, often blocks long, comprised of mechanical, electrical, and human parts. Can you imagine seeing this massive bohemoth of a machine, surrounding you, towering above you, two or three stories high? Who's "part of the machine"? Who's lifestyle is more regimented - yours, or theirs?
I write software that manages independent study programs for schools. The software I write enables teachers to teach, in the field, in homestudy programs by automating the generation of legally required progress reports and compliance paperwork. Rather than reducing flexibility, my software empowers teachers with more flexibility and power, saving as much as 10-20 hours per month per teacher doing administrative paperwork, so that they can... teach!
Additionally, I usually work at home, on the couch, with my kids - it's a majority of my worktime. I get a successful career, I get to fly around to visit with clients with whom I have a good, close, friendly relationship, and I do it armed with my laptop and my (digital) cell phone.
The effect isn't one of making either myself or the teachers live to the schedule of the computer, it's freeing us all from any set schedule whatsoever!
I don't imagine that Kilby thought it would lead to less human contact, less face to face time, and less free time for everyone.
Tell this to the ex-manufacturer bloke who now sells insurance, or runs a small business. Small businesses represent more of the US GNP than ever before. Small businesses are, by definition, close to their customers, and thus have more intimate relationships between the staff and the customers.
Next time, have at least some information to comment on before you do so, eh? For a good, economic and environmental "State of the World", I highly recommend "The Skeptical Environmentalist" by Bjorn Lomborg.
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:2)
This is an interesting statement. I never heard anyone make it before.
Do you mean it in the trivial sense of more $$$ than ever before?
Or do you mean it in the more meaningful sense of larger % of GDP?
I assume the latter. The front page of a Google search on "small business GDP" yielded one piece of real research [sba.gov]. Chart 1 (p. 7) of that report tells a different story. Small business' share GDP (relative to large business') drops steadily f
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:2)
Your statistics compare SMALL businesses against LARGE, apparently ignoring the "mid" tier altogether. (Havent' read the report in detail, but that's what my first skim seems to indicate)
(sigh)
Perhaps the old adage is correct; There are three kinds of lies: Lies, d
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:2)
Good.
This is a case of differing definitions: what is a "Small Business"? [...] Your statistics compare SMALL businesses against LARGE, apparently ignoring the "mid" tier altogether.
Ahh, makes sense.
(sigh)
Perhaps the old adage is correct; There are three kinds of lies: Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
No need to *sigh*. I learned something. Going forward, I'll know that this distinction exists, and therefore be a better consumer of other people's numbers.
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:2)
How does technology solve racism?
Additionally, I usually work at home, on the couch, with my kids - it's a majority of my worktime. I get a successful career, I get to fly around to visit with clients with whom I have a good, close, friendly relationship, and I do it armed with my laptop and my (digital) cell phone.
So you give one example of a person who is able to use technology to get more quality time with his family and friends and that's supposed to apply to everyb
LESS human contact? Well, what about Slashdot? (Score:2)
It's not true!
While it may be true that *some* people have less face-to-face contact, I dare say it's not significantly less then anytime in the past.
I'd say we have a lot more communication then ever before.
Every day I communicate with people all across the globe; via Slashdot and other forums. I have conversations with people I would have never been able to meet, ever, even
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:2)
And Oppenheimer is a mass murder...
All uses of all tools should not be automatically blamed on their inventor. That's not to say I think you're right about it anyhow.
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:2)
He probably thought "hmm, I could do this," with little thought regarding its impact.
I'm not sure how much research is done with some specific goal other than learning a bit more. I'm not sure that physicists find subatomic particles thinking "the top quark will change the world!"
Re:Big dreams turn into nightmares (Score:2)
Like they say...guns don't kill people, people kill people. And while controlling guns makes killing other people harder for most people, and thus will reduce the death toll, it certainly won't chnage anything about humans being what they are.
The only way to make thiw world a better place is to get rid of mankind. And the only thing you have to do to ach
Condolences (Score:1)
Condolences to his family. I didn't know him but I know people who did and they all said he was a kind and decent gentleman in addition to his technical brilliance.
All the proof I need. (Score:3, Funny)
Sincerely,
Your friendly neighborhood PHB
Re:All the proof I need. (Score:2)
Re:All the proof I need. (Score:2)
Uh, I believe he was 81. (Score:2, Informative)
A great influence (Score:2)
Re:A great influence (Score:2)
Rest in peace (Score:1)
His name will live on... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:His name will live on... (Score:5, Interesting)
This is probably an urban legend. More likely it was the initials of John J. Kardash [google.com], who in the 1950's arbitrarily used his initials on these pins on his blueprints, and it stuck.
Re:His name will live on... (Score:2)
Sad day, good luck Jack (Score:1)
I gotta say it. (Score:4, Funny)
Hard to believe (Score:3, Interesting)
That would be surreal. It makes me wonder if he was satified in the path his technology has taken... or just pissed about royalties.
81, not 91. (Score:5, Informative)
"Jack St. Clair Kilby was born in 1923 in Great Bend, Kan. His father was the owner of a small electric company, and Kilby became interested in radio tubes while listening to big band radio in the 1940s."
May he rest in peace.
And think... (Score:1)
He will be missed (Score:5, Interesting)
Just to point out an interesting tidbit about his invention of the IC, he was a new employee at TI in 1958. While everyone else was on vacation he had to find something to work on, as he had no vacation time saved up yet. (In those days TI would normally shut down most operations for maintenance and most employees would take their vacation) As much as those around him told him that his idea would never work, he used his time to prove them all wrong.
(history is just about the only thing you actually learn in those training days when you first start a job at a company like Texas Instruments)
Re:He will be missed (Score:1, Funny)
I don't know firsthand, but I've heard that at the Arthur Andersen training days they teach you how to hold your liquor.
Progressive management at tech companies (Score:5, Insightful)
The most famous American tech companies used to be pretty good about this sort of thing. I bought a Tektronix employee handbook from the late Fifties on eBay awhile back, and it's a jaw-droppingly enlightened piece of work. Read it, and you'll wish you owned a time machine and a bus ticket to Portland, Oregon.
People speak in hushed tones about Google's "spend one day per week on your personal project" policy as if it's a radical innovation. They're like, who are those guys, a bunch of Communists?
Now... imagine how radical it sounded in the 1950s when Tektronix actually gave their engineers the key to the company storeroom on the weekends and a polite request, conveyed in the employee handbook, not to abuse the privilege.
The famous "HP Way", originating 30 or 40 years before Carly showed up, was another expression of the same idea: give your employees enough rope and they'll pull your company in directions you never would have imagined.
Nowadays, Hewlett-Packard sells ink for a living, Texas Instruments earns more from its legal department than from its engineering department, and policies like Google's sound like something from a Star Trek script. It seems that the best we can hope for is that the American technology industry as a whole relearns what it knew fifty years ago.
Re:Progressive management at tech companies (Score:1)
Go HP!
Re:Progressive management at tech companies (Score:2)
Re:Progressive management at tech companies (Score:4, Insightful)
You mean that SCOX wasn't the first to come up with litigation as a business model? (grin)
Fifty years ago, corporate America didn't have as many MBA around pushing for ever higher stock prices.
Also look around today. Today, nothing is fundimentally different than fifty five years ago. All technology devemopments since then have been, for the most part, improvements rather than basic shifts in the underlying technology. What US government policy hasn't killed off in basic research, "free markets" and corporate interests have.
The way to fund basic research is to hand a bag of money to people that know a lot, then get out of the way. Don't tell them that you can't use that stem cell line, or that you can't go around carbon dating things that date back more than six thousand years because the world didn't exsist then. First, because it is just plain silly, second, the restrictions give false information that then points to false paths for further research. False paths and untrue 'facts' are great for religious beliefs, but not so good in science or the real world.
Re:Progressive management at tech companies (Score:2)
I apologize; my information was indeed correct at one time [piercelaw.edu], but it is currently twelve years out of date. (See page 7, as well as footnote n25 referencing Texas Instruments's $250 Million-A-Year Profit Making Center, The American Lawyer, March 1992.)
I do not have current knowledge of TI's relative earnings from
Yup, 81 (Score:1)
The world would be different? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:The world would be different? (Score:5, Interesting)
This is so often the case. The entire human race wasn't sitting still, waiting for the guy to make the transistor -- just 99.999999% of us.
Re:The world would be different? (Score:2)
Your're right (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Your're right (Score:2)
Re:The world would be different? (Score:2)
Rest in Peace (Score:1)
Thanks (Score:1)
A true hacker (Score:4, Interesting)
From the substitute for going on vacation [ti.com] article:
This guy was a true hacker! I wish I had the opportunity to meet him. Rest in peace Jack Kilby.
I met him briefly once.. Long ago when.. (Score:2)
R.I.P. Jack Kilby.
when invention still meant something (Score:5, Insightful)
thank you mr. Kilby, for a career and a future.
How old was he? (Score:1, Redundant)
Pffftt... (Score:2)
J.K. didnt quite do this... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:J.K. didnt quite do this... (Score:5, Informative)
I believe it was called a thin-film integrated circuit, and it definitely qualifies as the first step in integration, it just did not push it all the way through, to put multiple components on a single die. There had been some thermally coupled transistors on a single die before that time but there were no interconnects between them, so they did not qualify as a circuit.
Intergrated Circuits have many components in a single carrier and as such Kilby's work definitely qualifies.
You're absolutely right though in that Noyce's device was much closer to what we consider to be a 'chip' nowadays, especially since he used silicon, instead of noisy Germanium.
Probably our current crop of smd's would look remarkably familiar along side one of those old thin film circuits.
It's splitting hairs though
Re:J.K. didnt quite do this... (Score:2)
Uh, no. Thin film circuits are an entirely different thing.
Jack Kilby's notebook (Score:3, Interesting)
In the last ten years as a software developer I have had only one employer require me to keep a bound notebook of my work, while the others did not. I kept a notebook anyway, but I had to pay for it myself.
Re:Jack Kilby's notebook (Score:2, Informative)
You shouldn't be astonished. This is the way it is done. If it is published, it's in the public domain and cannot be patented. Notebooks (paper and pen/pencil) is the way ideas have always been recorded for IP documentation (at least for the "hardware" innovation that I'm familiar with, like nanotech) and will probably continue
thank you (Score:2, Insightful)
No, Bob Noyce invented the IC (Score:5, Interesting)
1) Jack Kilby simply jumpered wires around a semiconductor. At the same time and before at Fairchild, Bob Noyce produced a planar process that we use today. Subsequently, TI used Noyce's process, not Kilby's.
2) A lawyer at TI argued for years that Jack Kilby invented the IC. Fairchild was awarded the first patent for the IC, but eventually gave up [pbs.org]. Since the lawyer won the case despite all of the evidence against Kilby, the Nobel committee should have included the lawyer in the Nobel prize. He is partly responsible for it.
3) If Intel (the eventual home of Noyce) were to claim that Noyce invented the IC, it would have given an expensive gift to Fairchild. Fairchild at one point could have sued Intel for all Noyce walked out with. It would create a mess. TI claimed all along that Kilby invented the IC. Corporate publicity won the day.
Sad passing of a pillar of computing (Score:2, Interesting)
Jack Kirby and Circuit Design (Score:2)
So far as I know, his experience of designing intergrated circuits was limited to those cool looking patterns that decorated most of the stuff in Reed Richards' lab. I mean they were rea
Re:Sad passing of a pillar of computing (Score:2)
This is _so_ not true. Jack had an office in the _KILBY BUILDING_ on TI's North Campus in Dallas. I have it on good authority that on the days when Jack was in the office young engineers were encouraged to just walk on in.
Sorry about your FIL, but Jack was coming into TI on a regular basis until fairly recently.
I guess there's no Nobel prize in engineering (Score:2)
This guy was a mean SOB... (Score:2)
- Guy Grumpy.
Former CEO, TubeMakers inc.
Seriously, this man changed the world. We should have a statue of him built.
Re:we all gonna die. (Score:1, Offtopic)
I'm A Potential Imortal (Score:1)
I'm Not Dead Yet!
SteveM
Re:we all gonna die. (Score:2)
Lets just say he didn't die - he cashed in his chips. (cashed in his cache? cached in his chips?)
Re:we all gonna die. (Score:2)
Ever lost a close friend or a relative? Did you say "..and?" then, too? If not, then why not RTFA and find out how he contributed to your life?
Re:Interesting (Score:2)
It should sum it up by saying he was one of the inventor of a handheld calculator. There are too many parts in a computer invented by different people.
Re:Interesting (Score:3, Interesting)
To steer this comment back on topic though, I'd like to thank Mr. Kilby for his tremendous accomplishment; the modern world owes much to your work (and of course to that of Mr. Noyce as well). I was at UIUC [uiuc.edu] in 2000 when Jack Kilby (BSEE '47) won his Nobel Prize, and I remember the publicity a
Re:Interesting (Score:2)
Re:Big deal for Great Bend - my hometown (Score:2)