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Social Bookmarking Services Revisited 102

pchere writes "Social bookmarking allows you share bookmarks publicly instead of restricting them to the browser favourites. Del.icio.us is such a fast growing community and its users have created a large number of del.icio.us tools to further enhance the service. Organization by tags allows for quick retrieval of sites by topics and bookmarks are available as RSS feeds. An article in D-Lib Magazine reviews the Social Bookmarking Tools to "remind you of hyperlinks in all their glory, sell you on the idea of bookmarking hyperlinks, point you at other folks who are doing the same, and tell you why this is a good thing.""
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Social Bookmarking Services Revisited

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  • Tags in other sites (Score:2, Informative)

    by esconsult1 ( 203878 ) *
    Tags are a great way to organize pictures and other objects as well. Whether its porn, celebrities [celebrityflicker.com], or the soon to be launched cityflicker.com [cityflicker.com]

    Sure, you could go to google's image search, but where else can you easily see, for instance, celebrity nipples [celebrityflicker.com] or this category [celebrityflicker.com]?

    Just looking at an object, and seeing other tags at the same time is extremely addictive. You can quickly jump to and fro within this kind of taxanomy with little effort. With certain experiments, we've seen a user stickyness not notice

  • by Anonymous Coward
    Del.icio.us is such a fast growing community and its users have created a large number of del.icio.us tools to further enhance the service.

    that..........????
    • You're thinking of the wrong construction. The correct one involves deixis: "Generic reference to social bookmarking communities. Del.icio.us is such a community." Granted, it might also be stress - "This is such a lovely evening!" - but I think that's unlikely.
  • Link Page (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Vanhal ( 885980 )
    Couldn't a page of links do the same thing?
    • Why spend the time doingn that when you can just insert a link with just a click or two? Rather than going in updating the page, uploading the page and all... besides, del.icio.us is hosted on it's server, so you don't need space to host the page. Del.icio.us also offers RSS feeds, so you can do much more with it.
    • The article mentions the three axes of social bookmarks: URLs, tags, and users. A simple page of links only gives you the first of those. In addition, the various sites have additional useful features that a page of links would not provide.

      One of the problems I've run into in managing even my small collection of bookmarks is finding things later. Tags help quite a lot with that. "What was that link to the monthly IBM puzzles? Well, I filed it under 'IBM'. Ah, there it is." With URLs and tags (and a

  • de.icio.us (Score:5, Interesting)

    by blackicye ( 760472 ) on Sunday May 22, 2005 @09:40AM (#12604808)
    I highly recommend anyone who hasn't yet visited this site to check it out.

    A good place to look is the page of "popular" sites. Some strange and interesting stuff turns up there fairly routinely.

    Stuff like how to cut (i.e. vegetables, meats etc) and Chess strategies among other sometimes bizarre sites.

    http://del.icio.us/popular/ [del.icio.us]
    • Whoa, dude! Chess strategies! That's outrageous! http://www.chesstactics.org/ [chesstactics.org] "Predator at the Chessboard" The dinosaur part fetish and gung-ho attitude give novelty. Unfortunately del.icio.us is another big timewaster- I highly recommend staying away from the site!
      • Oh great grandmaster, and font of infinite knowledge.

        That was the exact site that was listed on del.icio.us. Yeah I'm sure an accomplished and oh, so busy, grandmaster like yourself would have no time to puruse a site as pedestrian as this.

        I on the other hand am not a full time professional chess geek, and would not have otherwise stumbled upon "Ward Farnsworth's Predator at the Chessboard."

        So I suppose next you're going to tell me slashdot isn't a huge timewaster and not to stay away from it.
      • I have found that looking at tags on delicious (things like applescript) have given me way more useful and managable results than search engines like google. On delicious, if I look at the torrent tag, i get very useful information and links. Now that every internet opportunist knows that torrent is a popular search term, there are millions of google hits: Results 1 - 100 of about 5,200,000 for torrent. So, lets say 98% of these are bogus or useless. Yeah, I know, pagerank lets the cream rise, but 5 million

      • That site is about tactics, not strategy. Do you know the difference?
    • It's more like a mini blog, where you can collect all the interesting links you find throughout the day and publcise them. I subscribe to about 30 rss feeds from delicious of varying tags and friends. check out Pantomic [futurefeeder.com] which takes social bookmarking to the physcal world through cellphones with bluetooth.
    • I've honestly never been there, nor see the need to go there, mozilla keeps track of my bookmarks just fine, and what I bookmark wont really help anybody else.
    • Have to agree completely with parent's post that del.icio.us is excellent.

      Just as a friendly fyi, I'd also suggest Hotlinks [upian.com], which is slanted to more technical / software articles.

      Also, in terms of bookmarks managed solely by one individual, I *highly* recommend Andy Baio's WaxyLinks [waxy.org].
    • One of the current links on that page is "How to Get Slashdotted." Whatever it says, it must work.
  • by hsmith ( 818216 ) on Sunday May 22, 2005 @09:40AM (#12604809)
    but how long before it is filled with spam links, ads, ect? i don't see how they are going to keep it clean
    • Very simple: you check only links of great popularity OR collected by your friends.
    • by maotx ( 765127 ) <maotx.yahoo@com> on Sunday May 22, 2005 @11:25AM (#12605283)
      but how long before it is filled with spam links, ads, ect?

      I personally could care less. del.icio.us allows you to become a regsitered member (free) to have your own section of bookmarks. Only you can publish and customize to that section meaning that the only ads that show up will be the ones you put in there. You can then add a live bookmark in Firefox to the rss feed and have the last 30 links available to you anywhere you go. Rather I'm at home or at work I can keep my bookmarks together easily. del.icio.us will then keep a counter on how many people link to the same place and will give you the option of viewing other people's bookmarks who link to the same sites as you. They then take the most linked sites and place them at del.icio.us/popular. [del.icio.us] The only spam that will show up is the spam that you look for.

      Some common feeds:
    • Quote from the article:

      There is no question but that spamming of these new social tools can and will occur; it almost goes with the territory that social forums will foster such 'parasites' and some instances have been noted already. So far, however, it does not seem to have been a major problem, largely because spam has been drowned out by legitimate use.
    • Your mailbox is full of spam ... are you not mailing anymore?
      The Web is full of spam ... are you not surfing anymore?
      You are getting spam on your cellphone or even in your snail-mailbox ... are you not using them anymore?
      Finally, even /. has its annoying adds, reposts and non-relevant stuff.

      However, I never heard of someone to completely stop using any of these just because of spam. So, the fact that social bookmarking is prone to attract spam (although so far it has not) is usually not a good enou
  • Backflip (Score:3, Interesting)

    by griffinn ( 240043 ) on Sunday May 22, 2005 @09:43AM (#12604819)
    Backflip [backflip.com] used to work well for social bookmarking. But now its user base has shrunk so much that it's trivially easy to distort the results in the "What's popular" sections.
  • by MentalMooMan ( 785571 ) <slashdot.jameshallam@info> on Sunday May 22, 2005 @09:44AM (#12604826) Homepage
    A massive global pr0n database?
  • by OneDeeTenTee ( 780300 ) on Sunday May 22, 2005 @09:45AM (#12604832)
    With a few hundred million regular users could this sort of thing compete with search engines?

    Or would it just become a handy place that search engines would mine for data?
  • by Saeger ( 456549 ) <farrelljNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Sunday May 22, 2005 @09:48AM (#12604846) Homepage
    I got tired of micromanaging and losing bookmarks long ago, so now I just use Google to store my bookmarks and use my brain to store the short keywords that matter.

    Not keeping tons of bookmarks is also a good way to reduce info-overload: you only remember the stuff that matters. No more feeling compelled to check up on hundreds of old links (and then cleaning house of the dead ones yet again).

  • by Fox_1 ( 128616 ) on Sunday May 22, 2005 @09:52AM (#12604870)
    I went to the article expecting another pseudo marketing piece, but whoa, what's there is quite a detailed analysis of social bookmarking, including a history of bookmarking that brought back my youth when mysterious programs named Archie and Gopher brought me internet content. Someone went through a lot of effort to put this together. There are some interesting conclusions drawn about the differences between search engines and places like slashdot,wiki..community sites where the ranking of the content is done either by machine (search engine) or individuals (community site). I found it interesting to hear a good explanation of why I stopped using bookmarks (when I used to have huge bookmark files) - it became easier to find the same site again through a search engine. Especially when bookmarks become outdated when URL's change.
    • Thanks, now I guess I'll go read it. It took reading this far into the notes, to confirm it wasn't an article on how to use social networking to find nipples in cyberspace.

      I use del.icio.us. I'ts great, but the /. article sounded like it links to something worthless.
    • You might be interested in something I'm working on.

      I want it to be easy to use bookmarks in speech, not just keep them in a file.

      You can see this in wiki- in wiki, if you use a [[special link syntax,]] it'll automatically link the text.

      I want that for everything.

      If I'm writing in Slashdot, I shouldn't have to write out less-than a href=quote (lookup-and-paste-URL-here) greater-than blah blah less-than /a greater-than, to tell you about "blah blah." I'd much rather just type [[blah blah,]] and have slas
    • It's the @nature.com email addresses that got my attention.

      I've heard so much fluff about folksonomies and social this-and-that that I'm well sick of it, but you're right. It's a serious article. I've come to reliably expect real content from dlib; They do a good job. The article at Burningbird.com [burningbird.net] is a great one, too. There seems to be a divide between people who do official tree-based classification and the tag-based classifiers. The tree people say flat namespaces aren't rich enough to provide con

      • I was told that story when touring the university of waterloo, when looking at their comp sci program. They paths aren't laid out in a manner you expect, but they get you from building to building quite nicely. That university is interesting, relatively young (50 or so years) and they have a very efficient student organization. Their student union is run as a business to make money - and they make piles of it, then reinvest that money back into the university building things like a new building for the ma
  • by CheeseburgerBlue ( 553720 ) on Sunday May 22, 2005 @09:53AM (#12604872) Homepage Journal
    Probably read it later.

  • Good. (Score:2, Insightful)

    The introduction of social bookmarking was ahead of its time. However, with the phenomena of blogging, podcasting, and the like, a revisiting of this idea is a welcome change to our never-ending search for better quality in our instant information-accessing ways. I see some mention about this topic of likening social bookmarking to a search engine, but I fail to see it. A search engine starts with the assumption you have a big pile of mess you need to plod through to find what you want, and casts the wid
  • by Teja ( 826685 )
    If you would like to host a social bookmark script on your own server, you should try Scuttle [sourceforge.net]
  • This will become usless once spammers start to catch on...
    • I've only noticed a spammer once on the main page, and I've been using del.icio.us every day for a while now.

      I emailed Joshua (the creator) and he banned them right away.
    • Re:Spammers (Score:3, Insightful)

      But these are "registered" sites.. they require at least a user name to get in...so it should be easy to limit spammers... after all, a normal person is going to have a 10-1 follow-to-post ratio... because you'd be following existing links more than making new ones. if somebody shows up dumping links it would be pretty easy to spot.
  • Second part (Score:5, Informative)

    by Teja ( 826685 ) on Sunday May 22, 2005 @10:01AM (#12604903) Journal
    here is the second part of the article [dlib.org]
  • Given what I've experienced of the net in certain circles (counter strike and IRC in general being major offenders), I'm not sure I want to know what other people are bookmarking.
  • Am I the only one who gets the impression that this whole social netbookblogmarkworking thingamebob is all a bit self referential at the moment.

    blogs pointing to social booking marking tools linking to other blogs talking about syndication, itself syndicating another page talking about blogging that links to a social booking site...

    I'm a bit worried about getting involved because I might not get out.

    You heard about the two websites that accidetally syndicated each other didn't you? Right mess it was. I
  • you should check out nesstags [nesstags.com]... its a suggestion for a simple improvement to tagging systems.

    basically, tags are given a one-digit score (1 low to 9 high) which informs the system how much a given item belongs to that tag.

    so when bookmarking slashdot, for example, you might give it the following tags: news4 geek9

    this means that slashdot is a 4 on the newsness scale, but 9 on the geekness scale. this sort of quantification would really come in handy for searches. when you search for "news," slashdot wo
  • IMO, Simpy [simpy.com] knocks del.icio.us into a tin hat.
  • I've been using del.icio.us for about a year now, but I hardly ever visit the site itself except when I'm adding or retrieving my own bookmarks. Instead, I use the fantastic populicious [populicio.us] RSS feeds to tell me what the new popular links of the day are, coupled with RSS feeds for various tag intersections that I'm interested in.

    I've found out about a helluva lot of stuff via del.icio.us over the last year that I just wouldn't have found out about otherwise.If you haven't used it yet, give it a look.

  • Digg (Score:2, Informative)

    by Teja ( 826685 )
    There are many general social bookmark services available, but Digg [digg.com] (along with del.icio.us) is one of my favorites in that Digg focuses mainly on Tech related things. It is starting to become more and more popular and is really worth checking out.
    • Re:Digg (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Jaff ( 742044 )
      The problem with digg though is that half of the postings are about Techtv or people who worked at Techtv. I've also seen a lot of abuse with people linking to their blogs instead of the actual article. It's spam like that which makes digg more frustrating to me than useful.

      I still use it though.
  • One of the benefits of Del.icio.us is that often the popularity of a particular link tells you something about its quality as a data source--but even better, since you can subscribe a a given user's bookmarks, you can use the link poster as another, more accurate, guide to data validity. I'd also like to point out for Mac OS users, that Buzz Andersen's free Cocoalicious [scifihifi.com] is quite nifty, since it works even when the Del.iciou.us server is unavailable, and that Brent Spiner's news reader/aggregator NetNewsWir [ranchero.com]
  • Here's what I want (Score:2, Interesting)

    by DeeZee ( 84216 )
    I want a service that lets me se which sites other people recommend that I visit, based on the site that I'm currently on.
    Could be solved by a mix of RSS-feed and Firefox plugin?

    Anything like this exists?

    Oh, and it should be easy as hell to input a new site, or it will never be popular...
  • I have a personal site and from about 1994 when I first put it online until around 1999, I would upload my bookmark page from Netscape. It was already html so it was easy to do without any reformatting at all. I found it pretty handy and so did my friends.
  • Spammers (Score:3, Informative)

    by LionKimbro ( 200000 ) on Sunday May 22, 2005 @01:16PM (#12605887) Homepage
    Does del.icio.us (or the lesser known Open Source de.lirio.us [lirio.us]) feature spammer protection? Or technorati tags, [technorati.com] for that matter? How do people filter out spammers?

    I keep thinking: "One of these days, the spammers are going to mess up this system."
  • Yeah, there is one:
    http://buzz.research.yahoo.com/bk/market/market.h t ml?_mid=8976 [yahoo.com]

    Fantasy market, but fun to play and watch.
    The 2 leaders there, Delicious and Furl, are commercial (one has VC funding and the other is owned by a publically traded company). Simpy [simpy.com] is the first independent service there, and I hope you can see why [simpy.com] (demo/demo account). Yes, I'm a little biased, see my URL above.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Read about it here, thought it was as important as the invention of the wheel (Spin). Went to go use it, found out otherwise.
  • "Bookmarking" is a highly personal thing - just like tastes in general. Sharing your tastes with a few selected people is ok, but sharing them with just anyone on the planet doesn't make any sense. If I'm interested in a particular person's interests, I'll ask them, or I'll visit their web site if they have one. But I have absolutely no interest in knowing the interests and tastes of someone I don't know - or a bunch of them. To me, this is a very specific form of voyeurism. And heaven knows there is alread
  • I guess things like backflip are coming back, but this time the services are useful. For one thing del.icio.us [del.icio.us] and Flickr [flickr.com] have shown that embracing the developer community makes sense.
    I think for most people, me included, bookmarking is easier and often provides more useful information to others than blogging, there is clearly overlap.
    Services such as Wists [wists.com] which is somewhere between Flickr [flickr.com] and del.icio.us [del.icio.us] are an example of a bookmarking systems that are complimentary to del.icio.us allowing people to boo [del.icio.us]
  • Also checkout Feed Me Links http://feedmelinks.com/portal [feedmelinks.com]

    It's a really great social bookmarking site. The userbase is still somewhat small, but it's growing quickly! Feed Me Links provides a great user interface, Firefox extension, IE plugin, RSS feeds, tags, Flash sidebar, and so much more!
  • I admit it's my own site and just something I have been fooling around with but one thing that I think it has over some of the other social bookmarking sites is that it allows you to designate links as public or pviate.

    I have most of my links public at http://links.klatt.us/public.php?user=klatt [klatt.us] but I have a few that are private.

    ... and oh yah, RSS feeds :)
  • Why are all these pics so small?
    This is useless.
  • try URLex [activeunit.com] share your bookmarks across community, friends, co-workers. create private communities, etc. intersting service :)
  • Try spurl.net [spurl.net] it is great. I have moved all my bookmarks to it.
    There is also zniff [zniff.com] which searches in the bookmarks in spurl.net
  • Nifty tool if you want to import your bookmarks from your browser: http://www.julian-bez.de/delicious/ [julian-bez.de] Makes short work of "seeding" your del.icio.us account.

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