Transparent Aluminum Is Here 625
Alien54 writes "Scientists in the US have developed a novel technique to make bulk quantities of glass from alumina for the first time. (link includes a picture of samples) Anatoly Rosenflanz and colleagues at 3M in Minnesota used a "flame-spray" technique to alloy alumina (aluminium oxide) with rare-earth metal oxides to produce strong glass with good optical properties. The method avoids many of the problems encountered in conventional glass forming and could, say the team, be extended to other oxides (see also: A Rosenflanz et al. 2004 Nature 430 761). Scotty would be pleased."
Scotty would be pleased. (Score:5, Funny)
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Oh, a keyboard, how quaint.
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Re:Scotty would be pleased. (Score:4, Interesting)
We solved this problem with voice recognition software some years ago. The trouble is, we can't tell if the person is addressing the computer, or is simply talking about a computer. For example:
"Computer run a level 3 diagnostic on the transporter assembly"
or
"Damn machines, I did not tell my computer to self destruct."
Hopefully this problem will be fixed before Zefram Cochrane [startrek.com] takes off in a few years.
Re:Scotty would be pleased. (Score:5, Funny)
You mean 18! (or are you posting to Slashdot... from the future! (*GASP!*))
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Re:Scotty would be pleased. (Score:5, Funny)
1. Recieve message from future self.
2. ???
3. Profit!
4. Send message to past self.
Re:Scotty would be pleased. (Score:5, Funny)
I'll lay odds a burly guy with a dodgy scottish brogue was around their head office trying to use a mouse as a dictaphone not too long ago....
Regards
Luke
Re:Scotty would be pleased. (Score:5, Funny)
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Colorful (Score:4, Interesting)
Are these windows amorphous like glass or crystaline like sapphires? (Assuming amorphous, but not sure).
Re:Scotty would be pleased. (Score:5, Funny)
(The amusing part about that statement is that the Russian language has no 'W' sound!)
Re:Scotty would be pleased. (Score:4, Informative)
I think you meant English has several sounds not present in Russian, based upon the example given.
Russian has no consonants to depict the sounds presented by the English letters "j", "qu", "x" and "w". English does in fact have the "zh" sounds. It's just not represented by a single letter. Pronounce "vision".
Russian can approximate all three of these letter using their own alphabet.
x = ks (ax = aks)
j = dzh (jeans = dzheens)
qu = koo + vowel (queer = kooeer)
w = oo + vowel (whale = ooayl)
Re:Scotty would be pleased. (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Scotty would be pleased. (Score:5, Funny)
Never understood that. (Score:5, Funny)
Presumably he had a run of bad tea-machine experiences like this:
"Tea, Earl Grey." <sip> "Awww fuck my old boots, it's half-cold and stewed you fucker"
Re:Never understood that. (Score:5, Funny)
Oh man, what I wouldn't give to actually hear Jonathan Stewert proclaim that!
MAKE IT SO BITCH!
Re:Never understood that. (Score:5, Funny)
Come on, what kind of geek are you?
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Re:Scotty would be pleased. (Score:5, Funny)
You would think with all that technology, and thousands of terrabytes of hard drive space that the retarded ass computer would remember Picards drink. He always gets his Earl Gray hot!. If I was him I would say "Give me my damn tea you stupid excuse for a computer. Hell even Windows remembers my preferences!"
No he wouldn't! (Score:3, Funny)
sorry, go ahead mod me down. I couldn't help it!
I sence a great disterbence in the force.. (Score:5, Funny)
*I* sense a great disturbance in... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Scotty would be pleased. (Score:5, Funny)
"A Windows Key. How quaint!"
A Windows Key? On a Mac?!?
Re:Scotty would be pleased. (Score:5, Funny)
7) Jokes usually need a grain of truth or a plausible premise in order to be funny.
e.g. "3 girls jumped off a building. Which one hits last? The one who stopped to ask for directions!"
That's not funny because it's a ridiculous situation with no roots in reality. On the other hand,
"A Blonde, a Brunette, and a Red Head all jump off a building. Which one hits last? The Blond! She had to stop and ask for directions!"
That is funny because the premise for the joke is a commonly held belief that blonds are dumb. Of course, such suppositions are often flawed and allow for an equally amusing joke that makes the exact counter point:
"So a Blond walks into a bank and asks for a two week loan of $10,000. Dubious of the Blond's motives, the bank manager asks for collateral. The Blond replies that she could always put her Mercedes up as collateral, since it was worth far more than her loan. The bank manager agrees, and drives her car into the bank garage after loaning her the money.
"In two weeks the Blonde returns with the $10,000, plus the $5.00 interest on the loan. As the manager returns the keys to her car, he asks, 'I did some checking while you were away. It seems you're loaded with money! Why did you need a loan for two weeks?' To which the Blonde replies, 'Where else in New York can I park my car for two weeks and only pay $5.00!'"
woohho (Score:5, Funny)
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He didn't use Transparent Aluminum for the tank. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:You are such a geek... (Score:5, Interesting)
The main street in Minden, Nebraska has now been renamed from "Brown Avenue" to "Harold Warp Memorial Drive" (Which most people refer to now as "Warp Drive"). A friend of mine lives on Warp Drive, which is kinda cool to a geek like me.
So they did the original creator of "Warping" a disservice when they wanted to obtain Plexiglass instead of Flex-O-Glass.
(Yah, I went to high school in Minden...
Re:You are such a geek... (Score:4, Informative)
Not quite true. Harold Warp did invent Flex-O-Glass, and there is a Harold Warp Memorial Drive. But his last name is a coincidence. Warp has meant to twist or bend something for hundreds of years. It originates from the old english word "weorpan". In 1346 it was used as a weaving term. (When weaving, you start with lengthwise threads, the "Warp" and weave the "Woof" perpendicularly across it). In 1440 the word Warp was first recorded as meaning to twist out of shape.
This is not the only coincidental last name. I'm sure many are familar with the inventor of the ball and suction device, still used in toilets today. His name was Thomas Crapper, but "crap", meaning defication, had been slang for at least 50 years before he invented the toilet. And it has meant general refuse for a great deal longer than that. The sirname Crapper originats in the 13th century, and is a variation of "Cropper", an occupation sirname, like Cartwright, Smith, and so on.
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Scotty and McCoy went to a plant that manufactored plexiglass because plexiglass was strong enough to hold the water and whales they needed if it were thick enough. (There's one part of the movie where Scotty calculates how thick the plexiglass needs to be to finish building their tank.) Since they had no money, they couldn't pay for the plexiglass needed so instead Scotty drew up a formula for transparent aluminum in exchange for the plexiglass. Even with the formula, it would take that plant years and years to be reconfigured to produce transparent aluminum, and they say so in the movie.
So... yes. Grandparent is right; they traded the formula for the plexiglass.
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Transparent aluminum foil (Score:5, Funny)
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More importantly, I can wear my improved tinfoil hat in public without getting weird looks.
Re:Transparent aluminum foil (Score:5, Funny)
Like, duh!
Paranoid kook n00b
Re:Transparent aluminum foil (Score:4, Informative)
Like, duh!
Unfortunately, you're overlooking the fact that tinfoil is made from alumin[i]um.
This is largely because it is frequently used in food storage and preparation, and tin is poisonous, so isn't a good choice.
Re:Transparent aluminum foil (Score:4, Funny)
Oh yeah? Well only real tin effectively blocks the barquathian mind-control rays from the planet Booftar, that they're co-developed with the CIA and Nabisco to control the populace.
This is largely because it is frequently used in food storage and preparation, and tin is poisonous, so isn't a good choice.
And you believe that?! Looks like they've already gotten to you, bub.
Article text, for the slashdotted (Score:5, Informative)
11 August 2004
Scientists in the US have developed a novel technique to make bulk quantities of glass from alumina for the first time. Anatoly Rosenflanz and colleagues at 3M in Minnesota used a "flame-spray" technique to alloy alumina (aluminium oxide) with rare-earth metal oxides to produce strong glass with good optical properties. The method avoids many of the problems encountered in conventional glass forming and could, say the team, be extended to other oxides (A Rosenflanz et al. 2004 Nature 430 761).
Glass is formed when a molten material is cooled so quickly that its constituent atoms do not have time to align themselves into an ordered lattice. However, it is difficult to make glasses from most materials because they need to be cooled -- or quenched -- at rates of up to 10 million degrees per second.
Silica is widely used in glass-making because the quenching rates are much lower, but researchers would like to make glass from alumina as well because of its superior mechanical and optical properties. Alumina can form glass if it is alloyed with calcium or rare-earth oxides, but the required quenching rate can be as high as 1000 degrees per second, which makes it difficult to produce bulk quantities.
Rosenflanz and colleagues started by mixing around 80 mole % of powdered alumina with various rare-earth oxide powders -- including lanthanum, gadolinium and yttrium oxides. Next, they fed the powders into a high-temperature hydrogen-oxygen flame to produce molten particles that were then quenched in water. The resulting glass beads, which were less than 140 microns across, were then heat-treated -- or sintered -- at around 1000C. This produced bulk glass samples in which nanocrystalline alumina-rich phases were dispersed throughout a glassy matrix. The new method avoids the need to apply pressures of 1 gigapascal or more, as is required in existing techniques.
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Aluminate glasses
The 3M scientists characterised the glasses using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy, X-ray diffraction and thermal analysis, and tested the strength of the materials with hardness and fracture toughness tests. They found that their samples were much harder than conventional silica-based glasses and were almost as hard as pure polycrystalline alumina.
Moreover, over 95% of the glasses were transparent (see figure) and had attractive optical properties. For example, fully crystallized alumina-rare earth oxide ceramics showed high refractive indices if the grains were kept below a certain size.
Author
Belle Dumé is Science Writer at PhysicsWeb
Another /. dupe! (Score:5, Informative)
The amusing thing, is that American scientists are given credit here, but if you look at the original article from 2+1/2 years ago, it was the Germans who discovered it. Hmmm...
You could argue that this article is just a 'refinement' of the previous article. I could believe that only if a link had been provided to the original article. Ah well... Odd that the article itself doesn't mention previous work by the Germans either...
Future echoes (Score:3, Interesting)
I am beginning to suspect that the whole idea of sci-fi is in fact a future society time-travelling back every now and then to make a new 'Star Trek' film to nudge society onto a slightly different path
The number of Star-Trek-driven ideas that have become reality is astounding -
Ok, we're missing the big one, warp drive, but apparently we have to have a war that more or less wipes out humanity first, so I'll be happy to give it a miss in my lifetime...
Oh yeah, FOR [insert deity]'s SAKE, STOP THE WHALING!!!
Simon
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OK, I am not sure how Star Trek warp drives are supposed to work, but I remember a RPC circa 1990 called Traveller 2300 had something called "stutterwarp". The idea was this, take a starship and do the transporter trick to jump a few meters, or a couple of kilometers. Now do this at a few Mhz and you have near lightspeed with very little velocity.
Re:Future echoes (Score:4, Funny)
See, that's the kind of shit you learn reading Slashdot. I'm going to go shoot myself for being a massive fucking dork now.
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I like your list. But, what about the things we haven't invented yet?
Of course, I'm probably forgetting lots of stuff. Anyone have further things I've missed??
Re:Future echoes (Score:5, Funny)
Never been to a supermarket I presume?
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I hate to think what interstellar roaming charges are like though
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Welp, I guess that's it, I'm officially a Star Trek Continuity Apologist. *sigh*
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Silly submitter (Score:5, Insightful)
What next, suggesting people use the silicon [wikipedia.org] in their computers as a breast implant [wikipedia.org]?
Submitter - Not Silly (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Submitter - Not Silly (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Submitter - Not Silly (Score:5, Informative)
As I understand it, pure metals can't be transparent because light is an electromagnetic wave which gets "short-circuited" by conductive materials. Presumably the oxides disrupt this conductivity. And anyway, the alumina is combined with other oxides before being used to form glass.
Re:Submitter - Not Silly (Score:5, Informative)
Sort of....
A better way of explaining it would be that for a photon to be absorbed by an electron, there must be an empty higher energy state for the electron to move to (E = Eo + hv, where Eo is the energy state of the electron and hv is the energy of the photon). In solids with metallic bonding, there are many electrons floating around and many free electronic states for them to move to, so any photon that enters the solid can be absorbed by an electron that will then jump to a higher energy state (which will be free, because there are so many free energy states).
In the case of insulating and semiconducting materials, there is a gap in the energy states, so some transitions are not allowed. For pure, single crystal Al2O3, (aka white sapphire), there are (essentially) no transitions available that correspond to the energy of photons of visible light. If you start substituting in Cr3+ ions for the Al3+ ions, your sapphire will turn red and we call it "ruby". In this case, the Cr impurities provide transitions that can absorb wide ranges of visible light, but not red light. What is more is (if this is fairly pure), the ruby will not only absorb light of other wavelengths, but it will emit red light as well. Try putting a synthetic ruby under a UV light, it will glow red.
However, it should be noted that other defects can scatter and absorb light as well. Grain boundaries, voids, inclusions, etc. will affect your light transmittance. It has been possible for some time now to make polycrystalline alumina that is translucent (Lucalox), but polycrystalline alumina can never be transparant, so there are two ways to make alumina transparant: make it single crystal (only one grain, so no grain boundaries) or amorphous (no grain boundaries, because there is no long range crystal order).
Re:Submitter - Not Silly (Score:4, Interesting)
If you just want something transparent that is very durable, you can use something like this alumina technology, or even something crazy like panes of diamond glass or something like that (I'm not sure how strong diamond glass would be, but I'm guessing pretty strong).
On the other hand, a true transparent metal would have lots of desirable properties that none of these materials have. Metals are malleable and ductile, conduct heat well, can withstand stress by deforming, and conduct electricity. All of these properties have to do with the metallic bonds between metal atoms, and consequently they are incompatible with being transparent. That isn't to say that you can't make a nonmetallic material that can transfer heat, or which can bend - but it wouldn't be by the same mechamism as how a metal works.
I always loved metallic bonds simply because they are such an elegant demonstration of how a microscopic property such as chemical bonding leads to macroscopic properties like conductivity and malleability.
For those who want to know more, almost any general chemistry textbook will have a short section on metallic bonding which describes how they work and why they lead to these properties.
Re:Submitter - Not Silly (Score:5, Informative)
Therefore, the term "transparent aluminum" is incorrect. Sorry.
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Why not link to... (Score:5, Informative)
Transparent alumuinum is here... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Transparent alumuinum is here... (Score:3, Funny)
Well you have to take LDS first, than it might work...
Get a free iPod [freeipods.com]. Here is how it works [wired.com].
Re:Transparent alumuinum is here... (Score:3, Funny)
Begin Star Trek comments in.... (Score:4, Funny)
well then there are rubies and stuff (Score:5, Informative)
google search of rubies and aluminum:
http://pearl1.lanl.gov/periodic/elemen
Re:well then there are rubies and stuff (Score:3, Interesting)
It's not aluminum, it's alumina. (Score:5, Informative)
Alumina or corundum [mindat.org] as the natural material is known, is found in nature as a clear mineral - different colour variations give you Ruby and Sapphire.
Jolyon
Re:It's not aluminum, it's alumina. (Score:5, Funny)
I mean, after the tiger-repelling rock, I thought i learned not to misunderestimate science!
glassish properties (Score:3, Interesting)
I generally think of glass as being very inert for example. Anyone know if this would be the case if the glass was composed of differant substances?
(chemistry maybe?)
Re:glassish properties (Score:5, Informative)
A common misconception caused by the old "spun" method of making glass which makes sheets which are thicker at the bottom than the top. People have often assumed that old glass has "flowed" into that shape. It hasn't: it was made that way. Glass does not in fact flow, not even slowly.
Search on Google for "glass flow" for lots and lots of stuff about this.
TWW
Not Liquid (Score:5, Informative)
In general, the composition of glass makes a huge different in properties such as hardness, inertness, transparancy and color. In ordinary glass, CaO is added to lower solubility in water and various other solvents.
Very, very, very slow (Score:5, Informative)
No, it's an amorphous solid. (Score:5, Informative)
Seems a couple other people beat me to rebuking this, but I figured I'd throw another link in just in case there is any lingering doubt.
Glass is not a liquid. Glass is an amorphous solid. [tafkac.org]
Yes but... (Score:3, Funny)
science inspiring sci-fi inspiring science... (Score:5, Interesting)
I remember an interview with James Doohan where he said his greatest pride that came from his career was that he inspired other people to pursue careers where they could make a difference to the world. How many engineers became engineers or went into sciences because of Star Trek?
I'm familiar with the Arthur C Clarke suggesting satellites; I doubt a similar cause/effect with Star Trek IV happened here. However, the similarities are cool, and at least with this genre there is the POSSIBILITY of changing the world for the better.
PS Fortunately such transitions from sci-fi fantasy to real world are few and far between. 90%+ of tv SF and pulp SF is dreck, and I myself and not looking forward to a Brave New World...
Re:science inspiring sci-fi inspiring science... (Score:3, Interesting)
A recent example is the Alcubierre warp drive. A general relativist took a break from computing the gravity fields of real objects to ask himself whether there was any way to create a field with the property of allowing faster-than-light travel.
Heinlein gave another example when he testified to Congress about space program funding. He got his stroke surgery from a surgeon who excelled at having patients survive. The surgeon did so well because h
and Bones and Scotty can look for a whale tank (Score:3, Funny)
Computer mods? (Score:4, Insightful)
- Transparent aluminum case
- Transparent hard drives
- Transparent power supplies
All without voiding your warranty
And for military uses - the sky is the limit (really - think about it...)
Get a free ipod [freeipods.com] [it really works - my buddy just got his... should have believed it earlier
Transparent ALUMINA (Score:5, Informative)
And hard is only one part of the story. Glass is hard, yet I wouldn't want to make structural elements of an aircraft from large hunks of glass... Aluminum is light and Tough (high energy to break). It is also ductile (deforms before breaking) something that no ceramic is...
So, while this is cool, and will probably be used for super scratch proof layers on spyplane camera transparencies or something like that where they can afford something like this, it isn't what you think it is.
As an aside, translucent alumina is used in something you see everyday - sodium vapor lamps use alumina to encapsulate the sodium metal that they use as their filament.
impeccable timing (Score:3, Funny)
purdy pieces! (Score:5, Funny)
RTFA Editors (Score:5, Informative)
Transparent Aluminum Is Here
NO IT ISN'T! Commercially developed transparent Alumina (think clear ruby/sapphire) is here, HUGE difference. Sorry Trek fans, you will have to wait longer. There will be no clear planes, no clear cases made of Alumina. If cases were transparent Alumina then they would have the same properties as silica glass and you would have a nice greenhouse effect going on slowly (or not so slowly) frying your computer.
Alumina is a mineral/glass/ceramic, Aluminum is a metal!
PowerBook (Score:5, Funny)
Somehow, I get the feeling that Apple is going to use this for the next gen of PowerBooks.
(It's a joke -- all the materials scientists don't need to correct me.)
-"Zow"
Refraction index (Score:3, Informative)
Similarly, when the grain size is maintained below the scattering limit, the fully crystallized Al[2]O[3] REO ceramics exhibit attractive optical characteristics including high refractive index (1.8 and higher) and transparency through the mid-infrared range.
Cool. Finally something to tackle the 1.8 barrier, and smaller glasses for me. 8-)
Transparent Alumina (Score:5, Informative)
If you have a high quality watch it is likely that the crystal is made from polycrystalline alumina (i.e. corundum...in this case synthetic corundum). The alumina glass is different however in the fact that it is a glass and therefore lacks crystal structure.
Since it doesn't have to be crystallized it is likely that it will be able to be produced in large sizes. However, being a glass it is not going to have the malleable properties of aluminum metal and will probably shatter if hit hard enough.
"Making large sheets of ruby and sapphires" (Score:5, Funny)
I'd love a pair of sapphire-lensed sunglasses.
Sounds like a good plan for optical disks (Score:5, Insightful)
If that was the case, that would be an AWESOME application for this. Although the MP/RIAA would see that as a reason for preventing backup copies of your media. I mean, if the disk can't be damaged, why would you need a backup? Although you could still lose it or have it stolen...
Re:Sounds like a good plan for optical disks (Score:4, Funny)
I could just imagine the crime scene:
Police Officer: Can you describe the person who attempted to raid the bank?
Witness #1: Yes, he was covered in head to toe with CD's glued to his clothes.
Police Officer: Can you give me any further details?
Witness #1: I think the CD's had words on them "AOL trial account - 14 days free service".
Shouldn't we be doing something... constructive? (Score:5, Funny)
"transparent concrete" (Score:4, Interesting)
A more accurate term is translucent concrete. One guy embeds perpendicular optical fibers so some external sunlight gets through. There are other techniques too.
yes, but... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:The missing ingredient for an invisible plane! (Score:4, Informative)
Take a metal, and cool it off very rapidly, and it becomes very hard but also very brittle. Cool if off fast enough apparantly, before the atoms have a chance to properly align themselves, and it becomes transparent, which is what happens with Silica to make glass. They just found a way to cool off Alumina fast enough. Problem is, what gives metal its characteristics are the very nice, orderly arrangement of atoms bonded in sheets, so that it can remain strong while also bending before breaking.
I don't think this is anything other than a cool way to make glass out of something else, perhaps something stronger, but nowhere near as cool as a material resulting in clear body panels on a car, or clear coke cans.
Re:The missing ingredient for an invisible plane! (Score:3, Insightful)
I am not a chemist, but I believe the condition of the material to allow shifting of bonds that allows metals to bend without breaking is nearly the opposite of the condition present in glass. Ie, alumina glass may be stronger, but it will not bend.
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One atmosphere = 1 bar = 780 torr/mm mercury = 101.3 kilopascals.
Hence 1GPa is about 10000 atmospheres.
These kinds of pressures are not (too) difficult for research labs but industry goes all queasy above about 500 as these pressures don't scale well.