
Build a Robot out of a Car? 264
SomeRobotGuy writes "A researcher in the U.K. is in the process of building an autonomous biped robot out of a Mini Cooper r50. Its functions are controlled by six computers running RTLinux and it's powered by an internal combustion engine. And the thing's not tiny, at over 10 feet tall! The site includes videos showing some impressive results."
Standard Bending Unit? (Score:5, Funny)
Now it just needs a loudspeaker and a recording of "BITE MY SHINY METAL ASS!"
Re:Standard Bending Unit? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Standard Bending Unit? (Score:4, Insightful)
Right on!
What makes it even worse is that they have a busines model around fukcing over unsuspecting people. You pay them to see the site before it gets completely crippled (I notice that some times people take down movies and won't put them back up after a slashdotting). Now if it wasn't for the slashdot effect, would so many people pay for slashdot accounts?
Re:Standard Bending Unit? (Score:2)
Re:Standard Bending Unit? (Score:3, Insightful)
--riney
Re:Standard Bending Unit? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Standard Bending Unit? (Score:2)
For example, Web caching is considered acceptable. I don't know whether it's been tested in court, but at the least people do it without worries.
Mirror (Score:5, Informative)
The mirror is available here [69.55.225.122].
The page doesn't load animations properly in Opera, and relies upon Quicktime to display the Mpegs. It might work in Mozilla, but it might not.
And again, adulations aplenty to xWh3lPx for the mirror.
Huh? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Huh? (Score:4, Funny)
CYBERTRON -- Following an intense battle with Megatron and his evil Decepticons Monday, former robot-in-disguise Bumblebee refused to revert to his natural state as a yellow Volkswagen Beetle. "I hid my existence in this world by taking the form of a vehicle! I revealed my true nature when I was called upon to protect earth!" said Bumblebee, a member of Optimus Prime's heroic Autobots force. "I refuse to change back into a humiliating bubble-shaped compact car!" Bumblebee added that Megatron arrived on earth with one goal: Destruction!
(from The Onion [theonion.com])
More than meets the eye... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:More than meets the eye... (Score:4, Funny)
Next up (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Next up (Score:2, Funny)
(/nothing to see here, you don't get it>
Re:Next up (Score:2)
Re:Next up (Score:2)
wow (Score:5, Funny)
Bubblegum Crisis (Score:3, Funny)
I just love photoshop... (Score:4, Insightful)
I think someone has robot envy :) (Score:2)
If this is hoax I am going to be so pissed.
Re:I just love photoshop... (Score:4, Funny)
we meet at dawn.
It's a nice bit of CG, it might be from MINI (Score:5, Interesting)
There best known one was putting the MINI on the roof of a Chevy Suburban and driving it arround San Francisco.
It was also recently revealed that the Weekly World News article with BatBoy Stealing a MINI was a planted article by MINI USA.
Re:It's a nice bit of CG, it might be from MINI (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:It's a nice bit of CG, it might be from MINI (Score:5, Informative)
A whois lookup on r50rd.co.uk returns the address:
6 darblay street
london
W1V 8DM
GB
A quick search for this address on Google reveals:
Martyn Gould Productions, 6 D'Arblay St, London, W1F 8DN, UK
On a page titled: "Film and Television - Post Production, Commercials"
r50rd.COM ... (Score:3, Informative)
Just thought I'd share. I must say if it is a hoax... that's some pretty darn nice CG. If real, WOW... give me MY 10ft robot slave already!
Re:And the final proof (Score:5, Interesting)
Free advertising here on Slashdot.
Cheers
VikingBrad
Re:It's a nice bit of CG, it might be from MINI (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:It's a nice bit of CG, it might be from MINI (Score:2)
Nail in the coffin of it... (Score:3, Interesting)
The difference in shadow casting between the two objects, when they are both at roughly the same location, is so dramatic that it could not possibly be anything but a hoax.
I had a really long post that I was going to type about disproving the "robot stopping the jeep" through some ideal physics calculations, but my computer locked up on me (and I was lacking an initial velocity value for the Jeep). Howev
Sigh (Score:2, Insightful)
Slashdot should come up with some automatic link-cacheing system or something...
Poor publicity... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Poor publicity... (Score:5, Funny)
Of course they are the fastest. They ran away.
Re:Poor publicity... (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah. (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Poor publicity... (Score:2)
Geez. (Score:3, Funny)
Seems like it's become a custom around here to destroy small hobbyist sites. *sigh*
From what I got to see of it, it is truly awesome! The amount of work this guy has put into this project is just amazing. Makes me realize even more how much I want to get into the field of robotics.
Comment removed (Score:4, Interesting)
OT:Geez. (Score:5, Insightful)
Of course I agree it's a problem, just giving my thoughts on the situation...
Jonah Hex
Re:Geez. (Score:3, Insightful)
In this case 'small hobbyist' turns out to be guerrilla/deceptive marketers and the
HOLA! (Score:4, Funny)
I'll take a dozen!
hmm.. (Score:2)
Transformer? Please. Battlemechs Rule! (Score:2, Funny)
Actually, the old ones were even more godlike. (Score:2, Interesting)
It had maxed out jump-jets, twelve medium lasers, and maxed heat sinks. Its only other weapon was a machinegun in the head with one ton of ammo, for taking out Elementals and such.
All the lasers were in either the left or right torso, where those arms would shield all of the hits. All the beams would fire at the same time, and hit th
They should have run the (Score:4, Funny)
MORE HORSEPOWER!!
Re:They should have run the (Score:2)
- Some anonymous racer
And the winner is.... (Score:5, Funny)
Site is Farked... (Score:4, Funny)
Decepticon Millennium Copyright Act (Score:5, Funny)
Strange things indeed.. (Score:3, Interesting)
Bad idea here (Score:2)
DARPA?? (Score:2, Funny)
FAKE! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:FAKE! (Score:5, Informative)
Come on fakers, don't you know that your lighting has to be consistent between composited layers?
Re:FAKE! (Score:3, Interesting)
"The gyros are polled at 100Hz, which is overkill considering the height of the robot's CG. With six gyros churning at 100hz, a lot of mission-critical bandwidth is required, so I placed the gyros on their own token-ring controller that is accessible only to the balance and watchdog CPUs. "
100hz is SLOW for low-level feedback control. we run 4-wheel omni-dir robots and they go at 300 hz... i would think th
The real scoop (Score:2, Redundant)
There best known one was putting the MINI on the roof of a Chevy Suburban and driving it arround San Francisco.
It was also recently revealed that the Weekly World Ne
If you're going to steal a post (Score:3, Funny)
Ben
Next Project (Score:5, Funny)
Or, optionally, find a thirty-foot-long alien ray gun and turn it into Shockwave.
Don't forget Unicron! [imdb.com]
It's Not Real (Score:5, Interesting)
Yeah, I guess I don't like the feeling of being duped by a marketing department.
Re:It's Not Real (Score:2)
Re:It's Not Real (Score:2)
Mini? (Score:2, Funny)
Red Green (Score:5, Funny)
I liked it better (Score:3, Funny)
Something like this? (Score:2, Interesting)
http://home.comcast.net/~themichaelsmith/VWHiRes.
Slashdotted already! (Score:2, Informative)
Here's the image [68.54.119.43] on the one page I could access. Below it was the text:
Re:Slashdotted already! (Score:3, Informative)
I was lucky enough to get the actual article a second later, too -- link [68.54.119.43]
This would be cooler if... (Score:5, Informative)
I'm surprised this slipped through, editors.
Updated version (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Updated version (Score:2)
I, for one... (Score:2)
This is the obvious result... (Score:2)
Genda
Reply From Builder (Colin Mayhew) (Score:3, Informative)
From: Chris S. (123@123.com)
Subject: Re: Robot built from a Mini Cooper?
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Newsgroups: comp.robotics.misc
Date: 2004-03-11 13:08:35 PST
I'm not so sure. I really want to believe this thing's for real, but I
have some serious doubts. Here's the response I got from Colin Mayhew,
the robot's inventor:
Colin Mayhew wrote:
>I can assure you that the Cooper project is a real and
>very tangible one. Your suspicion is perhaps
>understandable because the leaps we've made are rather
>significant compared to the current state of
>commercial AI. As Mr. Clarke wrote in Technology and
>the Future, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
>indistinguishable from magic." What's important to
>remember in this famous quotation is not that the
>technology becomes magic, but rather that technology
>seems magical only to those who don't understand the
>details or are not knowledgeable of the history of a
>technology's development. It's for that reason that
>I've placed notes online and have included videos from
>different stages of the project. Have you seen videos
>of people interacting with the Kismet robot? That
>robot uses a fairly simple emotional model, yet people
>bond to it and treat it as a 'living' creature! It has
>become something magical from bits of aluminum and
>electrons whizzing inside silicon. Your experiences in
>the research sector I'm sure have shown you how
>disconnected the public can be from the realities of
>technology. There are autonomous machines (be they in
>medicine or oil well drilling) so removed from our
>daily lives that when we finally learn of them, we are
>shocked and amazed---far more so than had we followed
>the gradual steps and wrong turns the engineers made
>developing and finessing the technology. This project
>is real, and it, and the systems I've developed for it
>are going to change the way we live our lives. The
>most recent software revision I've tested on the robot
>has some powerful reasoning capabilities, a large step
>more powerful and versatile than that employed on the
>robot when I recorded the videos you may have seen
>online. They are perhaps powerful enough to seem like
>magic, but both devil and the angel of creativity are
>in the details. Soon enough, these little creatures
>will be animating the robots all around us and making
>our lives safer and more fulfilling.
>
>Regards,
>Colin
>
>
> --- "Chris S." wrote: > Is your
>Mini Cooper powered robotic biped a real
>
>>project? Your site
>>seems detailed enough, but the videos look
>>suspiciously like computer
>>generations. Either way, it's an entertaining feat.
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>Chris S.
Take it for what you will. I just can't believe someone built something like that essentially alone in just a few years. It just does too much and it moves too fluidily. For instance watch the video where it stops a run-away Car [r50rd.co.uk].
Re:Reply From Builder (Colin Mayhew) (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Reply From Builder (Colin Mayhew) (Score:2)
So now you expect me to believe some guy, alone, built a 1,500 robot that bends over and stops a car as easily as
Re:Reply From Builder (Colin Mayhew) (Score:3, Informative)
For those of us that live in the this world, not on Enterprise few hundred years into the future, that's first used by Conan Doyles Sherlock Holmes (maybe Spock considers all other fictional characters his ancestors) and is more or less based on Occam's Razor.
Re:Reply From Builder (Colin Mayhew) (Score:5, Insightful)
And notice the bot casts a shadow but the car doesn't. Totally fake. Also notice all these "tests" are done with a locked-down camera, that's a giveaway of a bad CG producer, anyone with real skills would have used a handheld camera and used move matching.
Re:Reply From Builder (Colin Mayhew) (Score:2)
Re:Reply From Builder (Colin Mayhew) (Score:2)
This is the difference between an artist and a CG technician. I remember in art school, we spent many hours studying human anatomy, body posture and motion, so we could make our images more realistic. You can't just do mocap and IK and
Re:Reply From Builder (Colin Mayhew) (Score:2, Interesting)
CG totally (Score:2)
Re:CG totally (Score:2, Insightful)
Why the doors? (Score:2)
Wouldn't the robot be much more functional (based on the generally known 'Mech specs) without car-doors attached to it's hands?
Car doors attached to the hands might be useful to give it more credibility as actually having been built "from an automobile". I'm not sure what the value of that could be other than the wow/marketing factor.
Hmmm, marketing from a car maker maybe...?
Regardless, I can't help but think that my Aibo could take this thing in a battle ro
Re:Why the doors? (Score:2)
Bah, this is completely fake. (Score:2)
Yea okay.
I think that if this were legit, there would be more then a little cheezy web page and no other documentation. If the guy really wanted to service the public with his "traffic" bot then he wouldn't be so secretive about it anyways..
Inventors Actual WebSite (Score:3, Informative)
Someone spent a decent amount of time on this if fake.
IMPORTANT NOTE: The last update of this site is in 1999 if that is to be believed. I suppose it's either the real last modified date along with a real Doc Mayhew or it is another part of the hoax. Thoughts?
Created With FrontPage 3! That's about right... (Score:2)
Re:Created With FrontPage 3! That's about right... (Score:2)
The name of the photo with the text next to it saying "Welcome to the Homepage of Colin Mayhew" is "dave.jpg"
Also, interestingly the two domains found for r50rd.* (co.uk and com) are registered to a "David Mayhew".
Not necessarily proof either way... but another odd inconsistancy.
Oh, and the two subpages were made with Frontpage5, not 3 as the main page is (or at least what it says in the HTML). But, that's still right when FP5 became available.
Perhaps they are trying to copy Pato Fu? (Score:2)
I saw this cool ass music video by Pato Fu on WorldLink TV, "Made in Japan" and this cooper thing reminds me of it. This is a damn cool video, tune to linktv [linktv.org] and see it sometime.
Let's look at the facts.... (Score:2)
The only reason he would have for not wanting any secrets about its operation to get out is if he was intending to apply for a patent, but hadn't yet. Once the patent application is filed, he's in the clear... he'
Re:Let's look at the facts.... (Score:2)
Maybe they just didn't account for the slashdot effect, or had no idea what it was. Or maybe they knew and expected it, and knew that if they survived, it would lend less credibility.
If it is CG, it's the most realistic CG I've ever seen. So are they advertising
Re:Let's look at the facts.... (Score:2)
Transformer toy? (Score:2)
It's not even a good design. Notice that locations which need big actuators, like hip joints, show no sign of them.
It's quite possible to build a legged robot out of auto parts. Mark Pauline of SRL built a 12-foot high walking quadruped in the 1980s. I've seen it work, and have visited his shop. Nice piece of work. The control system was all time-delay relays and R/C gear. No compu
Obviously... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Obviously... (Score:2)
mirror (Score:5, Informative)
Stealth Marketing directed at Slashdot (Score:5, Interesting)
You're walking down times square, and a pretty couple with exotic accents, who look and act like tourists asks you to take their photo. They hand you their digital camera. You notice it's one you've never seen or heard of before, so you snap the photo, and then ask about it, and they proceed to tell you how cool this camera is.
You've just been 'Stealth Marketed' -- the tourists are fake, actors hired to stand in Times Square asking people to take their photo.
You're sitting in Starbucks and you see a guy playing a cool game on his laptop. Pretty soon, he's letting you try the game and you're hooked. Turns out he's also an actor hired to sit in the coffee shop and get people to try the game.
This looks to me like a Stealth Marketing campaign diliberately directed at the Slashdot crowd. Note the post came from "SomeRobotGuy", who, I'll bet, is also in on this gag.
The server was supposed to get slashdotted to hell and not work properly, as that lends an air of credibility to the hack.
You're all part of a campaign directed at people like us who read Slashdot, ArsTechnica, HardOCP, and Wired. Chances are this site will make the rounds on all the hardcore tech sites, and if it makes a few people consider buying a Mini-Cooper, then the Stealth Marketing guys have done their job.
Believe me, this won't be the last time you're "hacked" by Marketing types who are getting more clever about how to direct an advertising campaign at you without you even realising you're being advertised to.
Fake or not, this inspires me... (Score:2)
Isn't it amazing? (Score:3, Interesting)
A 1500 lb anything is not going to be particularly quiet when it's moving... heck, I have a cat that makes more noise than that thing does.
This is about as real as a 9 dollar bill.
Scaling laws (Score:3, Interesting)
With increasing size the time constant of motion changes (froude number) making larger robots inherently slower. Also other laws indicate that the influence of gravition grows larger, make the robot difficult to control and prone to damage.
There are reasons why nature has not created bipeds of that size.
Re:We need licenses, give us licenses! (Score:2)