Fujitsu To Ship Linux Powered Robot in July 135
Radical Rad writes "The Register is reporting that Fujitsu will be shipping a consumer robot in July called HOAP for Humanoid Open Architecture Platform and it will be running a real-time version of Linux. They plan to release info on the controls system to make it possible to program using C/C++. The 7 kg robot is wired with USB and can have an optional 802.11b transceiver." This thing could be a lot of fun to program and send around the house.
Does Fujitsu have? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Does Fujitsu have? (Score:2)
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Re:Does Fujitsu have? (Score:2)
Re:Does Fujitsu have? (Score:2)
Indeed. Just look at the calendar...
Willy Wonka (Score:5, Funny)
Then again, I do wear a purple top hat.
Re:Willy Wonka (Score:2)
Re:Willy Wonka (Score:2)
Re:Willy Wonka (Score:2)
oops, sorry, left out the comma.
Re:Willy Wonka (Score:2, Funny)
Hmmm... (Score:3)
I can see Butler Bots appearing. Maybe an aftermarket for "Robot Modules", sort of like software now? Could be fun!
Re:Hmmm... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Hmmm... (Score:2)
Speaking about Linux, the bot will have specially customized Linux - rootless Linux. Hackers are seeking for root. No root - no hackers. Simple.
Re:Hmmm... (Score:2)
Re:Hmmm... (Score:2)
San Francisco, 2004. The city, as well as all Bay Area, is full of robots, built and driven by hackers, to find crackers who is trying to take over the bots' control. All citizens forgot about president elections because they are devided onto two big groups: hackers, who build and drive bots, and crackers, who crack the code, steal the bot and fight back. The rest of citizens had to flee into villages all over the California and Nevada. The police has been neutralized at fi
Re:Hmmm... (Score:1)
Potentially, anything could be a weapon... should society hold the makers of any household object accountable if someone decides to make it their weapon of chocie? I think we'd soon see nearly every product imagineable disappear if that were the case.
Re:Hmmm... (Score:2)
At the very least, it would probably need to come with multiple warnings. For example, right now I'm staring at a ca
Tethered? (Score:5, Informative)
Note that the HOAP-1 ran about $48,000.00USD; unless the price drops significanty, it'll probably not be your next tech toy.
More info and video (in Japanese) from Fujitsu here [fujitsu.com].
Re:Tethered? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Tethered? (Score:2, Insightful)
Now if you also add a pussy this thing WILL be sold even at 50K. Maintenance sure would be cheaper than with a girl.
Re:Tethered? (Score:1)
Re:Tethered? (Score:1)
Re:Tethered? (Score:1)
Could that work as the datacomm?
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The programming better include... (Score:4, Informative)
A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
Re:The programming better include... (Score:2)
Re:The programming better include... (Score:2, Funny)
>> [it would] allow a human being to come to harm" quite yet.
Actually I think thats the _only_ commandment it's in danger of breaking...
My bot, my rules (Score:5, Funny)
Screw law number two. If I want it to poke you in the eye with a stick it should.
We can change law number three to, "Do your master's bidding, and try not to break yourself. If you can, beat up other robots for parts. Your master isn't the richest man in the world and you're moving out when you turn 18!"
Re:The programming better include... (Score:2)
1. A robot may not injure any living being, including humans, animals and other robots, or, through inaction, allow any living being to come to harm.
2. A robot must obey the orders given it by strictly authorized (ID must be preprogrammed) living beings by except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with
Re:The programming better include... (Score:1)
Caliban (Score:2)
Re:The programming better include... (Score:2)
A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
I realize that it's a sci-fi reference, but just for discussion purposes, I can't imagine how these laws would be implemented. Not that I'm well read i
Re:The programming better include... (Score:1)
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And now look at the other player of the game: must Pretzels obey the three laws of robotics? And do they know about the zeroth?
Re:The programming better include... (Score:1)
"Follow my orders or I'll beat the bolts outta ya!"
Asimov? (Score:2)
What?!? (Score:1)
Hacking (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Hacking (Score:1)
I'm So Smart and So Lazy... (Score:1, Funny)
price? (Score:3, Insightful)
Sure could, but I don't want to see the price-sticker.
Actually I don't think the ideal helper-bots are humanoids. I beleave specialdesigned bots will do better. One bot does one thing, and does it good
Just don't install the Gimp (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Just don't install the Gimp (Score:1)
FYI... (Score:3, Informative)
The SDR-4X II [theregister.co.uk]. While it's not as customizable (And therefore I'd rather have the other one), it looks like it could be fun as well.
Re:FYI... (Score:2)
The SDR-4X II sports 3 64bit RISC processors each with 64Mb RAM (The previous SDR-4X had only two). Two cameras for stereoscopic vision. And from the presentation I've seen, the vision software is quite impressive.
> While it's not as customizable
Not as customisable? Are you refering to the add-on WLAN? The SDR-4X II has a Memory Stick slot (it's a Sony
Got root? (Score:2)
Oh, and imagine a beowulf cluster of these.
Re:Got root? (Score:2)
problem solved...
could it be a security system? (Score:3, Funny)
it wouldn't be that hard to develop either, just setup a keyword that would stop the robot, and only give that to people that are supposed to be in the house. you don't even have to teach the robot to attack, just to chase after, make noise, and flash some lights if it detects motion. all you need is a cheap camera, motion detection software, and some voice recognition software. I think most of that stuff is already developed.
Re:could it be a security system? (Score:1)
Re:could it be a security system? (Score:2)
more worth it then your stereo i think..
Off course.. i first must find a way to get into your house without exhausting myself... you try and heave 150kg over a gardenwall... and with my fingers picking a lock is not an alternative either... let's not even talk about who would win when i have to run away...
Switching to Linux (Score:4, Funny)
The robot would visit each room in the office, tell the occupant that it's about to switch his os, and then plug itself in the computer and start uploading Linux. After the upload is complete the robot could stick around to answer questions and teach the use of Linux.
Re:Switching to Linux (Score:1)
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Re:Switching to Linux (Score:2)
Microsoft robot: 5-foot walking Clippy (Score:1)
Windows version: "Would like some help with that task? (wink wink)"
User: "Shut up!" (and bends Clippy into a pretzel shape)
Hey, at least finally there would be something *physical* to punch about Clippy. Now I am actually warming up to the idea. I could
Why humanoid design? (Score:4, Interesting)
Is the idea that it's be easier to relate to a bipedal critter? Is it easier to program a two legged thing? I'd've thought the balance problems alone would make it much harder to create a humanoid robot.
Any MIT calibre eggheads want to weigh in?
Re:Why humanoid design? (Score:1)
Yes, check out some of the OOPIC [oopic.com] projects.
Re:Why humanoid design? (Score:2)
Re:Why humanoid design? (Score:2, Insightful)
It's pretty good, but nature didn't open source the perception/actuation software. Problems like "walking" are still difficult, especially if you have to worry about stairs, uneven terrain, varying surface conditions, local obstacles, etc. The point of the first poster is that you can avoid most of these problems upfront by choosing a cleverer form factor.
Re:Why humanoid design? (Score:2)
Aircraft don't flap their wings because that design is spectaculalry difficult to implement (not to mention poorly suited for the task of transporting large payloads).
Re:Why humanoid design? (Score:2)
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Re:Why humanoid design? (Score:2)
For example, our bodies are good enough to let us do crazy things like mountain climb
Re:Why humanoid design? (Score:2)
It uses a humanoid design because more humans are willing to spend large quantities of money for something that looks humanoid.
There are very few (if any) tasks for which a humanoid robot is a more effective design, except for those tasks in which the robot is expected to interact with humans.
Questions.. (Score:1)
If so what advantages does linux offer over such kernel ? Secondly how exactly is it important to use an Open Source platform in an embeded device both from manifacturer's and consumer's POV ?
HOAP? (Score:1, Funny)
Linux? (Score:1)
"BeeHive" Clustering (Score:1, Interesting)
Also, could you get a collective to build research and explorative stations on remote planets for preperations of manned trips to say...mars?
Re:"BeeHive" Clustering (Score:1)
I want one... (Score:2, Funny)
It will sit around all day watching soap operas and say, "Bite my shiney metal ass, meatbag"
No, CowboyNeal... (Score:2)
That should read:
from the bah-weep-granah-weep-ninni-bong dept.
I wonder (Score:1)
Re:I wonder (Score:1)
Three short mpegs (Score:4, Interesting)
Jay! (Score:1)
This is a bad road to go down.... (Score:1)
hmm (Score:1)
Now... (Score:2)
Re:Now... (Score:1)
Why little humanoids? (Score:3, Insightful)
802.11, LCD screen, and voice recognition could make it a very cool extension of your PC. It can find you, show (or read) your email, let you send replies via voice, etc. If your PC is connected to your entertainment system if could be a rolling video jukebox. Have it display your divx collection and send a signal to the PC to play the video on the TV.
There's a lot a "PC on wheels" can do now with 802.11b and broadband. I think the "ethernet everwhere" crowd would be better served by a central and movable programmable device than putting an ethernet card in the fridge and in the toaster.
A real usable robot will not look like a man, it will look like an appliance. Preferably with a cup holder and magazine rack. Oh, and a vaccum attachment would be nice too.
When these bots are able to do something other than be bots for the sake of being bots then we'll be seeing some real innovation.
Best case mod ever... (Score:2)
Re:Best case mod ever... (Score:1)
Either you have one VERY tiny robot, or one large ass ethernet cable!
Robots and Free Software? (Score:1)
Fujitsu invents neural learning system for robots (Score:2)
The Register and The Inquirer have fought for our attention in the last couple of years. And I think this Inquirer's story [theinquirer.net] beated the Register's one, at least because it was published one day earlier. And also because it didn't mention Linux, which is not really the engine behind the robot, but it tallks about neural networks software, which is the real tool used to train the robot.
Re:Fujitsu invents neural learning system for robo (Score:1)
Powered by the X (Score:1)
If not, let's find a way and submit it to
better than SONY's (Score:1)
Two questions. (Score:1)
2. Can they repair each other?
Noooo!!! (Score:2)
Humanoid? (Score:2, Funny)
Does this thing come with insurance... (Score:2, Funny)
for when the metal one decides to come for you?
And he will.
xox,
Dead Nancy
Imagine a... (Score:2)
A linux powered ship rebooted ? (Score:2)
Uh, oh.... (Score:2)
Great... One little buffer overflow exploit and the damn thing switches to DESTROY ALL HUMANS mode...
Kill all humans... must kill all humans! (Score:1)
Real-time Linux? (Score:1)
Is there a turn-based version of Linux? I have not read about that distro. Must be a rather extensive mod, since I thought the Linux kernel was real-time.
I prefer turn-based strategy games over real-time strategy games, because I play for the thinking not the clicking. But I prefer my OS to keep working when I'm not watching. I thought all non-MS operating systems were real-time. The last turn-based OS I used was MS-DOS. Even Windows simulates real-time as long as you
Re:Real-time Linux? (Score:2)
There are a few "real time" versions
Imagine a beowulf cluster of those - no, seriously (Score:2)
while (!SUCCESS) SUCCESS=kill("Annoying Neighbour");
An appropriate bot would be assigned to the task, with the others laying down fire support. Bwahahahaha. I wonder if they do bulk discounts?
Affordable robot brain options (Score:1)
1. Computer tethered to robot
Pros: Full bandwidth, can use your existing desktop PC
Cons: Limited range, tangling risk
2. Radio or Infrared connection
Pros: No cables
Cons: Limited bandwidth and/or distance
3. Laptop put in/on robot
(Evolution Robotics in Pasadena, CA has this design)
Pros: No cables nor radio links, can use your existing laptop
Cons: Laptops are often not as fast as desktop PC's
4. CPU in robot
Pros: No cables nor
New Level of Hacking Hijinx (Score:1)
Imagine the laughs when you hack your buddy's robot to have Terets Syndrome kick up the least opportune moment.
Loan Officer: "Well Mr. Geek, everything seems to be in order for this Home Loan, congrats!"
Robot: "EAT SHIT FUCKFACE FLEE COUNTRY NOW COCKWEASEL FUCK MONEY FUCK"
Loan Officer:
Mr. Geek:
two questions (Score:2)
2. can i get it to run LegOS [www.noga.de]?