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Blog From Your Cellphone? 180

seldo writes "The BBC has an article up about blogging from your mobile phone. The idea is not really news, but the interesting part is the host of links to interesting new (free) software that lets you do it, including: Manywhere Moblogger (Java), WAPBlog (Perl), and KABLOG (J2ME mobile Java, runs on devices like Palms, the Treo and Blackberries). All three of these interface to also-free server side tech which you need to set up yourself (KABLOG interfaces to the popular MovableType server and compatibles). The article also mentions the proprietary foneblog service which seems very easy to use, but it is software intended to be run by cellphone companies for their users."
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  • Good to see (Score:5, Insightful)

    by jade42 ( 608565 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @03:48AM (#5369128) Journal
    How many times does a blog-minded person lose something that was on their mind to time? Blogs re-tell life and a person cannot carry a pad of paper with them all the time to relate their feelings and observations. Most people already carry cell phones and this is a great natural extension.
    • Re:Good to see (Score:4, Insightful)

      by ajuin ( 617076 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @04:08AM (#5369188) Homepage
      How many times does a blog-minded person lose something that was on their mind to time?


      Oh yeah, that's always a great loss to humanity...

      Seriously, weblogging is a form of vanity publishing. To each his own, but I can't understand why people seem to take it so seriously.
      • Re:Good to see (Score:5, Interesting)

        by arvindn ( 542080 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @06:36AM (#5369436) Homepage Journal
        Sorry, I've got to disagree. I'll give some concrete examples of how losing something on your mind may an Unfortunate Thing, even if you're Nobody In Particular.

        • Remember Trent Lott's remarks on Thurmond? Consider a similar scenario. Mr Public Figure makes Incendiary Remarks, but Big Media misses it entirely. Now, whether or not the scandal ever sees the light of the day might depend entirely on J Random Blogger, who was in attendance at Public Figure's speech, is able to reproduce his exact comments, which in turn might depend on JRB's being able to Blog On The Spot.
        • Your comment "weblogging is a form of vanity publishing" is very cynical, and also pretty representative of the /. view. Blogging is much more than that. For instance, one of the things blogging allows you to do is distributed cognition, in contrast to "group think" that happens here. For this to work, however, the activity must take place within the attention span of an individual. So the latencies typically involved in having to be near a computer in order to blog are unacceptable. Get the point?
        • Remember Trent Lott's remarks on Thurmond? Consider a similar scenario. Mr Public Figure makes Incendiary Remarks, but Big Media misses it entirely. Now, whether or not the scandal ever sees the light of the day might depend entirely on J Random Blogger, who was in attendance at Public Figure's speech, is able to reproduce his exact comments, which in turn might depend on JRB's being able to Blog On The Spot.

          Remind me again why we are supposed to believe JRB's blog recording of the exact comments of this momentous occasion. JRB is just some random dude, whose blog spewings may or may not agree with Tiffany Anonymous Blogger's (TAB) recording of the exact comments of Public Figures speech.

          "He said, she said" taken to a whole new level.
    • by Bastian ( 66383 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @04:16AM (#5369205)
      The things that bloggers forget are probably often the kinds of things that weren only fleetingly interesting to begin with. The cool stuff will probably be remembered, or the blogger in question will write it on a napkin for blogging when he/she gets home.

      With the advent of moblogging, I predict that the quality of blogs will go down as bloggers start saying random shit whenever something seems interesting for a moment. Blogs will become watered down by passing distractions, people will lose interest, and blogs will go the way of the narccicistic "this is me, this is 8,000 pictures of me, here are my favorite movies, blah blah blah" sites.

      Hmm. . . maybe that's not so bad after all. I'm sure natural selection could use some help in the world of blogs.
      • Re:This is terrible (Score:4, Interesting)

        by phorm ( 591458 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @04:20AM (#5369215) Journal
        Except that after the initial novelty wears off, and most people using cellphones get tired of the hitting "2" thrice just to get a letter "C"... it will become somewhat less frequent, and used only in special occasion or when the blogger is extremely bored.
        • not used a mobile recently then?
          • Re:This is terrible (Score:5, Informative)

            by Afrosheen ( 42464 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @06:15AM (#5369409)
            He/she is probably American. Most of the cellphone companies suck here and the phones are probably models from 2 years ago. If you get a free phone when you sign up for service, chances are the phone sucks and is at least 1 generation behind.

            Why do americans get the rat's ass of phones when Japan has realtime video phones?!
            • Re:This is terrible (Score:3, Informative)

              by Nexx ( 75873 )
              Because the typical American won't pay for phones, while the typical Japanese will pay upwards of $300-$400USD for a phone.

              Mind you, the former are strapped to an annual contract, while the latter aren't, but that's just semantics.

              Oh, and the reason why the Japanese are willing to pay that much for a mobile? Have you priced landlines in Japan lately? You must first *buy* the *right* to get a phone, which is at least double that of the mobile. It used to be that the rights purchase paid for, among other things, pulling the physical line to the place. Now, all it pays for is some technician activating a port from a remote console.

              Freaking third-rate country.
              • Most Japanese phones are sold on a contract, with a highly subsidised up-front cost (sometimes just 1 yen) but the average monthly charges (ARPU) are around $50 (though this has gradually fallen from more like $100 a few years ago).
                • Re:This is terrible (Score:2, Informative)

                  by Nexx ( 75873 )
                  It truly depends on what you buy and how you buy it, and who you buy it from.

                  You can go to an NTT Docomo store, and buy the phone outright, and be in a non-binding contract. You can also get them subsidised from a pseudo-authorised reseller, and get them as low as $50, or lower, depending on the model.

                  The NTT Docomo *monthly* are *much* lower than $50 now. I'm *currently* paying $30/month, plus a little more for going over the minutes and some international calls on it. Now, the reason ARPU is so high, I'm assuming, is because the figure includes people who use the bloody things *a lot*.

                  Now, FOMA is another story. I've yet to see a FOMA handset for less than $100, but the monthly bills on them are slightly less.
            • Just be happy you're not a Canadian - there was a point in time not terribly long ago that we were ahead of Americans in the tech on our phones (esp. during the hay-day of Nortel), but since then we've fast been falling behind (and certainly can't hold a flame to Japan). For example, we just got the Treo 270, which I've been eagerly awaiting and was finally able to obtain a month ago, whereas I could have picked it up in California over a year ago.

              And on a side-note, Rogers AT&T, the only decent GSM provider where I live (Calgary - Fido being the unfortunate alternative), LOCKS the Circuit Switched Data feature of the phone, forcing you to use their extremely overpriced GPRS service.

              Now GPRS is a superior service for connectivity, but not for $5/month for 150kb of data (that's just a few web pages! I wouldn't be happy with that each DAY!) CSD would be much nicer for me, even with the 30-second connect time and external ISP requirement - at least you get charged plain air-time charges. +2 Karma to whoever out there tells me how to unlock the CPS service of these phones (REAL Karma, not this fake stuff...:)

              Sorry for the rant here, but it's not entirely OT - I'd love to use my Treo to update my website from the road, just not at the prices they want to charge me... (I could set up an SMS/email gateway easily enough if all I wanted to do was blog, but I'd also like to use SSH, WebMin, etc).

            • Canadian actually... and I often wonder the same thing. Why is it that N. America has to suck hind teet when it comes to cellphones... and the fact that a standard flipphone w/o plan still costs around or over $500 (CAD)
      • With the advent of the web, I predict that the quality of Gopher will go down the hole as Netscrapers start saying random shit whenever something seems interesting for a moment. The scrapers will become watered down by passing distractions, people will lose interest, and the web will go the way of the narccicistic "this is me, this is 8,000 pictures of me, here are my favorite movies, blah blah blah" sites.
        Hey, you're right!
    • by $$$$$exyGal ( 638164 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @04:21AM (#5369218) Homepage Journal
      Yes. Now I can type out my movie review before I even leave the theatre:

      44 333 22 999 88 11 999 00 00 11 22 333 44 1 33 22 1 99 22 111 000 111 33 2 00 999 11 2 4 11 000 *

      NOTE: the above represents the keypad strokes I have to do to type on my phone.

      Add in another 20 lines of the above, and that should do it. It'd suck if I wanted to add an HREF to imdb.com ;-).

      --sex [slashdot.org]

      • by tunah ( 530328 )
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      • Re:Good to see (Score:4, Insightful)

        by plumby ( 179557 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @07:29AM (#5369556)
        You might want to consider getting a phone with T9 predictive text, like pretty much any phone you can buy in the UK (and most of Western Europe as well). One keystroke per character. Most teenagers I know can type quicker on their phones than they can on a keyboard.
        • Re:Good to see (Score:3, Interesting)

          Most teenagers I know can type quicker on their phones than they can on a keyboard.

          Apparently there are kids in Japan that can key in 200 wpm. That's faster than they talk. Text messages can, in some cases, work as a better communications medium than speech. When you're standing in the same room.

          Alvin Toffler was a fag.
        • You mean like the phones that have existed in the US for 3+ years?

          We don't live in the stone age, you know.
      • 44 333 22 999 88 11 999 00 00 11 22 333 44 1 33 22 1 99 22 111 000 111 33 2 00 999 11 2 4 11 000 * NOTE: the above represents the keypad strokes I have to do to type on my phone.

        Your cell phone has a space bar? Lucky.

        :)

      • Wanted to point out a few things:
        1. The "predictive" technology that other people have pointed out is still pretty crappy. Either that, or I'm just too old to learn this new-fangled stuff.
        2. A few people tried to decipher what I wrote in the parent post. I just randomly typed numbers ;-). If you found anything, you need to see a psychiatrist.
    • Re:Good to see (Score:5, Insightful)

      by corsetboy ( 599118 ) <<won.emoh> <ta> <ton>> on Monday February 24, 2003 @04:24AM (#5369226) Journal
      a person cannot carry a pad of paper with them all the time
      a small note-book and pencil are more robust, reliable and equally compact than any mobile phone or PDA. appropriate technology.
    • yeah, until (Score:5, Insightful)

      by The Tyro ( 247333 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @04:36AM (#5369250)
      Some genius decides to blog on their mobile phone while driving.

      You know it'll happen, because you've seen 'em too... driving with their knee, phone in one hand, lipstick (or a McDonalds shake) in the other, chatting away.

      I don't know about you, but mindless "yeah.. Uh Huh..." conversation is at least possible while driving (and with a hand-free headset). As far as eloquent conversation goes, you probably won't be Winston Churchill while your attention is on the road, but you can at least make guttural affirmative noises. Blogging, on the other hand, requires some coherent, focused thought (insert obligatory comment about Slashdot trolls here).

      Talking on a cell phone may be challenging, but I find dialing while driving to be almost impossible to do safely. Blogging on a cell phone? Somebody's gotta be dumb enough... I hope they have air bags.
      • Re:yeah, until (Score:3, Insightful)

        by YrWrstNtmr ( 564987 )
        Blogging on a cell phone? Somebody's gotta be dumb enough... I hope they have air bags.

        It's not their air bags that are the concern, it is the person they crash into that has the problem.
    • Right idea but I took to a different, basic, solution. Began carrying a small notepad with me everywhere. Take notes, drop the ideas that can not survive interest. When I get back to a desktop machine I write and post a story.

      Will be modifying this soon, but will be the same basic concept. My mobile phone is a Handspring VisorPhone, but not seriously thinking of using that on a regular basis.

      My 'blog is on a break for a bit, just using the /. journal for now, which BTW is a great way for the non technical set to add comment capability to a plain old static web page.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Well, someone beat me, darn cellphones suck.
  • by johny_qst ( 623876 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @03:48AM (#5369131) Journal
    Does anyone really need to type long blog entries on the terrible interface of the current wireless phones?
    • YES! (Score:1, Funny)

      by JPelorat ( 5320 )
      Excellent idea! They should all be *forced* to use horrid input devices for weblogs... maybe they'll get tired of it and shut the hell up for a change. =)
  • But isn't this just what happens when people use the net on their phone? They update blogs from their phone...
    • It's not just you. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Boss, Pointy Haired ( 537010 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @03:53AM (#5369147)
      Sadly, we're going to see a lot of this over the next couple of years.

      As mobile Internet access becomes reality, the media will be awash with boring articles that offer no more insight than performing "Function X" from your mobile phone.

      Next.
      • "As mobile Internet access becomes reality, the media will be awash with boring articles that offer no more insight than performing "Function X" from your mobile phone. "

        Oh yes... and expect IP squatters to submit a stream of patent applications in this vein:

        "Method and apparatus to perform some blatantly obvious function that people have been doing for hundreds if not thousands of years, but this time from their mobile phone"
  • by soccerisgod ( 585710 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @03:50AM (#5369136)
    Who ever came up with the word 'blog' should be taken out and fed to the dolphins.
    • by Anonymous Coward
      99.99% of blogs are a complete waste of time written by narcissitic (sp) idiots who think the world is intrested in what they say. I read this article before it was posted here and the guy who is quoted at the bottom, Mr. Holahan, is an idiot also, and sounds like he is stuck in 1996 trying to sell a "surf the internet and get paid for it" idea. Blog will be popular for a while, then will dissapear except for a handfull of people who write intrestingly enough, and will probably write more fiction than fact. I have never read a blog and hope I never do, besides if blogs are diaries, they are suppose to be secret and personal, lets keep it that way. Thank you.
    • Who ever came up with the word 'blog' should be taken out and fed to the dolphins.

      AMEN!

      Most "blogs" *twitch* are seriously overrated crap. Surf the internet a while and you're bound to run into a whole bunch of sites made by random, insecure 14 to 20 year olds who need the anonymity of the internet and the power of the masses to propel their own online ego into orbit driven on a stream of hormones and various neurotoxins in order to compensate for their lack of self-esteem, pretty much like some slashdot [slashdot.org] posters [slashdot.org] around here. No thanks, if I'm interested in any log or journal at all, it better concern something I'm interested in and that excludes any type of person I mentioned above.

      As a suggestion, I would like to propose a seperate "blogging" section for Slashdot, purely so people can FINALLY ignore all the crap about it. Really, I couldn't care less about a bunch of desperate people proliferating some dot-com spinoff.

    • Surely the word 'foneblog' is even worse.

    • When he decided that instead of 'web log' he would start saying 'we blog' (Peter was an early weblogger, from the Bay Area). Funnily enough, he's mothballed his site and isn't blogging anymore. Lot's of early webloggers have quit as the "blog as verbal torrent" kicked into high gear.
  • Excellent! (Score:4, Funny)

    by creative_name ( 459764 ) <pauls AT ou DOT edu> on Monday February 24, 2003 @03:50AM (#5369137)
    This is excellent! Now, if there was only some way to incorporate those annoying little ringtones into my website...
  • Keypad (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Big Mark ( 575945 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @03:54AM (#5369148)
    If I have to use a mobile 'phone's keypad to update my blog I think I'd rather not. It's bad enough trying to dial someone, let alone compose a LiveJournal entry.

    And mobile 'phones with keyboards just look wrong. Save it for the PDAs.

    -Mark
  • Dupe (Score:4, Informative)

    by dphoenix ( 623525 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @04:03AM (#5369166)
    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/01/08/203421 3&tid=95 Ya know, it's getting ridiculous nowadays.
  • Blog news. (Score:1, Funny)

    by paulhar ( 652995 )
    "The idea is not really news" Good job. Wouldn't want to spoil a Monday morning with news! Looking forward to news this afternoon. Or this evening. Or tomorrow. Yes, tomorrow, once I've woken up.
  • by hdparm ( 575302 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @04:05AM (#5369175) Homepage
    but the interesting part is the host of links to interesting new (free) software that lets you do it

    The interesting part for me would be the host of links to interesting new (cheap) mobile services. Fuck free software if it'll cost a fortune to do it.

    Perhaps the answer is in the article itself:

    The latest trend is moblogging - updating your blog with a mobile phone.

    Name of the new trend tells us plenty...

  • by zemote ( 317235 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @04:05AM (#5369176) Homepage
    The T-Mobile Sidekick/Danger hiptop is the perfect device for this type of blogging. There is already a growing community of these type's of Hiploggers over at http://www.hiptop.com/hiplog/ The nice thing about the Danger Hiptop is the querty keyboard, makes for a better mobile web experience. I bought my wife one of these and it is great.
    --zemote--
  • blogging (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 24, 2003 @04:06AM (#5369178)
    the way i see it is blogging really is just an outlet people use. now people who read blogs of other people seem a /little/ weird for me. The ability to update your blog via a phone might not be so good. imagine all these girls on dates

    GIRL: "hold on one second"
    BOY : "anything , baby"
    * GIRL punches in blog of how bad date is going
    * BOY uses his wireless web to read her blog
    BOY : "i brought you flowers"
    *repeat update procedure

    not a good thing.
  • WeBLOG (Score:2, Insightful)

    by flokemon ( 578389 )
    For me a blog still means a weblog, ie. a collection of links, not some kind of journal (although I love some of the livejournal entries - teen diaries more than anything really.).

    How can you really surf and spot places you want to link to with a mobile phone? Ok, so it is getting better than it used to with the new generation of big colour screen mobile phones, but I still can't imagine surfing around from my phone and updating my blog from there.

    And the phone keyboards?! R we going 2 c journals updated in abbreviated style?

    It just seems to me that it can only be a way to get even more irritating teen journals getting published on the web. Not so good.

  • Who was first? (Score:5, Informative)

    by stuartcw ( 93333 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @04:12AM (#5369195) Homepage
    Right now on Joi Ito's Chronology of Moblogging [weblogs.com] I am listed as the first person to post to their blog (in my case Livejournal) from their email enabled phone on January 4, 2001 at 4:16pm. I wrote a Python script over that New Year holiday that I hooked up to Qmail and used Livejournal's HTTP API to post the message. I'm sure that I wasn't the first person to do it as many people were discussing this around that time but I may possibly have been since at that time email enabled phones were not common outside Japan, where I live.

    I'd love to hear from anyone who can show that they posted from their phone using email before then so we can set history straight.

    On February 5th I added to graphic to help me remember that these were posted from the phone.

  • by Max Romantschuk ( 132276 ) <max@romantschuk.fi> on Monday February 24, 2003 @04:15AM (#5369202) Homepage
    This is a great idea and I'd love to use it... But i doubt I could live with the fees that my operator would charge for making even just one entry a day. Even though I live in Finland most operators bill like crazy for data traffic.

    A PDA-based solution with which you could update your blog offline and sync it when you have access would be nice.
  • by crux6rind ( 609204 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @04:22AM (#5369223) Homepage
    Most of the weblogs i ever come to belongs to some narcistic teenage girls writting bullshits. daddy bought me a new car. whoopie.... Posted by Trixie on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 08:00 AM EST (684 Reads) Read more... (459 bytes more) gotta go to school on my new car. oohh joy!!! Posted by Trixie on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 08:53 AM EST (684 Reads) Read more... (459 bytes more) oooh look!!! thats Jake (the cutes guy in my school) *drool* Posted by Trixie on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 09:00 AM EST (684 Reads) Read more... (459 bytes more) Why is that 18wheeler looks awfully close to my car? Posted by Trixie on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 09:13 AM EST (684 Reads) Read more... (459 bytes more) I cant feel from the waist down. (gotta call 911) i'll update later... PS; is that a gasoline i smell ? Posted by Trixie on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 09:19 AM EST (684 Reads) Read more... (459 bytes more)
    • shit, i forgot to use br tags... well, you get the idea...
    • Most of the weblogs i ever come to belongs to some narcistic teenage girls writting bullshits.

      Partly true. But last time I checked freedom of speech ment that anyone could express their thoughts. I would say that weblogs are great for that purpose, no matter what those thoughts may be.
    • If I only had mod points, I would give them to you(funny of course). You must read livejournal review(http://livejournal.us) don't you? :)
    • by arvindn ( 542080 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @06:52AM (#5369462) Homepage Journal
      And who are you to decide what's bullshit and what's not? The Trixie in your example would probably say "most of the weblogs I ever come acress are written by impossible linux geeks about things no one ever cares about".

      If you've really read any blogs at all, you'd know blogs interlink extensively. This is a great mechanism to increase the signal/noise ratio. Same way that the web works, except much quicker in time. So you wouldn't come across lots of blogs like Trixie's unless you went looking for them.

      If Trixie's got readers, who have the same interests that she does, that's fine; as a community they are able to discuss what they'd be discussing anyway, except much more easily. If not, nobody'd link to her and she'll stop posting the junk after a while. Get over it: the internet stands for freedom of speech; anyone can express themself; and you can't gag them just because you think they're stupid. Actually, its my opinion that blogging needs a certain amount of humility, rather than being a consequence of vanity.

      • Whoa, asshole. Lay off. Or is he not entitled to express the opinion that he thinks weblogs are mostly bullshit?

        Just in case you have a short attention span, I'll quote: "Get over it: the internet stands for freedom of speech; anyone can express themself; and you can't gag them just because you think they're stupid."

        Man, that's a wicked double standard you've got there. Watch out, you might hurt yourself with it if you're not careful.
    • Most of the weblogs i ever come to belongs to some narcistic teenage girls writting bullshits

      Yeah, and for some people the only thing they ever see on the Internet is porn. It says more about the sites you read than weblogs.

      I've seen maybe 2 or 3 teeny-blogs, most of the blogs I read are either technical (especially Java blogs [javablogs.com]), from which I've discovered plenty fo cool tools and techniques, or political, where I find a lot more detail and interesting angles on current events than I get from the monoculture of mainstream news.
    • I actually never read a blog like that and Ive read many...
      Altough I can imagine some like that exist and are probably hilarious :-).
    • be happy there are weblogs, they could be posting to slashdot :)

  • blogs b-cum ++ diff 2 rd
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Here in europe most sold phone are J2ME complient : nokia, motorola, sagem, alcatel ...

    This is not a know featured, but easilly verifiable when operator push : can play to thousand games ;)

    Enduser do not care tech they use, but just what they can do ! J2ME is evrywhere but people do not noticed ...

    By the way the MIDP 2.0 (cf. midlets) standard spec is much more fun, because it add major feature to the J2ME environement ! Nokia already pusing this one ...

    -ERT
  • Phlog (Score:2, Interesting)

    by vohlish_n ( 261634 )
    Don't forget phlog [phlog.net] an on-line community developed by a friend (and regular slashdot reader). Whenever I call him up, he's always busy "phloging" which always makes me laugh. Images of him, whip in hand when really he's probably sat with his perl book. It looks fun, though I cannot use it as my T68i communicam is next to useless (see my previous comments [slashdot.org] on this subject). Go have a look, what he really needs is to be slashdotted. LMTH (laughs manically to himself)
  • by juuri ( 7678 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @04:39AM (#5369256) Homepage
    With Opera out for Symbian 6 devices you can use a real web browser to read/post to blogs if you desire. More importantly there are active working ports of Putty (ssh) as well, so now just go finagle a P800 and enjoy the net in your hand.
  • Bogging ? (Score:5, Funny)

    by veg ( 76076 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @04:54AM (#5369278) Homepage Journal
    A friend of mine had this idea and suggested calling it 'bogging' rather than a blogging, as you could add entried whilst on the bog. That's where I have all my profound thoughts anyway.
    (For non British, 'bog' = toilet).
  • by Anonymous Coward
    You know what? I'm already typing almost all of my diary into my phone first. Only when I get back to my computer I will put those in my private blog. I'm sure I won't start paying for the privilege to do that in real time.
  • by CoderByBirth ( 585951 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @04:58AM (#5369284)
    Is it just me whose arm involuntarily clamps down on the armrest by the pure fucking geekyness every time I hear the word "blog"?

    gAAAAH!
    cut this shit out already
    • .. but you may as well get used to it. Like any bad nickname, it is doomed to remain forever, and its usage is actually fuelled by hatred of the word in part (discussion). Is 'weblog' really much better?

      I hated 'surfing' when the web first appeared... it seemed like such a lame comparison.. or 'browse' for that matter, which is something animals to when they forage for food.

  • see my dutch page regaring this: //willy dobbe [boerland.com]
  • by Anonymous Coward
    blogging from cell phones? Is this really the most
    exciting thing that has happened lately??

    Just think about what we used to talk about:

    15 years ago: You can buy your own computer!
    10 years ago: you can get a unix on your computer!
    6 years ago: all of humanities knoweldge--on your computer!

    now: blog from your phone!!!!

    Where's the excitement? Where's the next big than?
  • i send email via my mobile phone to special email address that php parses once per hour for posts. if the subject contains a special key, the post is well, posted. it's seems to be working well. i don't need any special services... AMP (apache, mysql, php) and some well written web scripts do me well.
  • by TopShelf ( 92521 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @05:42AM (#5369347) Homepage Journal
    when you can actually do this via voice-recognition, rather than composing text by hand. Ah, the day when you can simply flip open your phone, and start off with, "Captain's Log, stardate..."
    • the day when you can simply flip open your phone, and start off with, "Captain's Log, stardate..."

      Doesn't bother you that a computer capable of voice recognition, among other marvelous things, cannot automatically timestamp a dictated log entry?

  • I wonder when it'll be possible to moblog from a WiFi-enabled iPod. Even if the text entry interface sucks, the sheer trendiness of the combined buzzwords will carry it through.
  • Stop the insanity! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by WheelDweller ( 108946 ) <WheelDweller.gmail@com> on Monday February 24, 2003 @05:48AM (#5369359)

    Which Illuminatti keeps telling us that doing text-entry on a cellphone is a really fun, good idea?

    Whoever it is, has never tried to communicate by pressing M-M-M, G-G, R-R-R. And blogging is just another application pushing this to the limit.

    We don't need to blow our brains out, trying to type (as well as display) on a cellphone....WE NEED BETTER CELLPHONES. It doesn't have to be the size of a lunchbox...just a little larger. How about doubling the size and using handwriting input? Maybe a keyboard with real letter-keys? And a 1" screen isn't gonna cut it, either.

    How about something like a tricorder: snap it on your belt and 'Bluetooth' a set of headphones to it? When it's time to enter a lot of text, just unclip the main unit and lift the lid to start doing some real work.

    Since before the world 'slapped themselves in the forehead' and realized we only need a handful of Amazon.coms, only a couple of PayPals, and NOT another mega-auction site, someone has been pushing the internet on these microscopic devices. And the industry has greeted this technology with a yawn. It's great stuff....but using it is very annoying.

    Let's quit wasting time trying to make the phones small-and-sexy; let's make'em useful, instead!

    • The next generation of cell phones with Symbian (SonyEricsson P800, Nokia 7650) and PalmOS (Handspring Treo, Palm Tungsten W) are going to make this workable. Handwriting, even small keyboard will make this feasable. (Finally!)
      J.
    • Do American phones not have predictive text input?
      Not that i'm defending updating blogs from mobile phones, I think it will just make them worse.
      • For some reason there's a huge divide between American cellphones and Japanese, I know. Which is odd, don'tcha think? They come off the same assembly lines in the same country: Japan.

        About the bombing-Iraq comment: this is what keeps all the other countries behind America...doing what's right, instead of doing what's economical and/or easy. That's why, when Europe has a problem (like a world war, Soviet aggression, etc) they call US to intervene, not the UN.

        I'd love to debate this with ya, but I don't think the guys at Slashdot want us to do it here. Drop me a line, aye?

    • It doesn't have to be the size of a lunchbox...just a little larger.

      A little larger than a lunchbox?

    • by rufo ( 126104 )
      Apparently your cellphone is from the last stone-age. Every cell phone I've seen in the past two years or so has predictive text input, so when you're tapping out a message you only have to press each number once and it guesses the most frequently used word. Then you push a button to go down the list if the word it guessed isn't the one you wanted (which is rather rare, all things considered). It works very well, and takes most of the pain of typing on your phone out.

      But as far as taking what you're talking about literally, seems to me you're thinking about either a Danger Hiptop [danger.com] or a Palm smartphone such as a Handspring Treo [handspring.com]. I happen to have the Treo 300, which works with Sprint, and it's quite the gadget - not sure if I could live without it now. Best thing about Sprint? Unlimited Vision (Sprint's faster-then-dialup data services) for $10/mo. If you buy a Hiptop (aka Sidekick) from T-Mobile, you get unlimited data for the first year, but after that you have to pay their standard rates for data, which pretty much blow - $10 for 10MB, and that's assuming you don't go over. Both of these devices have input methods better then your standard touchtone keypad, and both have gotten decent reviews, so if you want something smarter then your typical cell-phone, I'd check them out.
  • MMS logs (Score:2, Interesting)

    by epollux ( 653000 )
    Since you can send an MMS to an e-mail address then it is really easy to automatically fetch the e-mail extract the image and create a log. I am running mine: www.birlouez.net/mms
  • by gagravarr ( 148765 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @06:07AM (#5369396) Homepage
    I've been using Mojo [netranked.com] to post to my LiveJournal from my wap phone for about 6 months. So, when I'm sat at the station and Virgin have canceled my train again, I can log in and rant about it. When I'm bored and waiting for someone, and I've been thinking about something for a bit, I can write about it I find that the biggest problem to mobile blogging from your phone is the data entry - you think it's hard enough to use the thing to write a 160 character SMS, try using it to write a fully fledged blog entry...
  • 2day I hd a gr8 tme. I wnt 2 my m8s wrk levng do nd nded up gting drnk :-) On a relted nte ppl hve bin cmplaing abt my blg bng dfficlt 2 red, no wy mn!
  • by dark-br ( 473115 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @06:38AM (#5369440) Homepage
    If only somebody can invent software that would make the random writings/thoughts of millions of nitwits worth reading.

    THAT would be a blog revolution!
  • Please don't ever post news like that again.
  • It's a ... (Score:5, Informative)

    by haggar ( 72771 ) on Monday February 24, 2003 @07:07AM (#5369491) Homepage Journal
    DUPE! [slashdot.org]
  • Great (Score:2, Funny)

    by nesneros ( 214571 )
    Now we can have all sorts of morons hitting speed-dial and shouting out "FIRST POST!" on their phones. Yeah.
  • I can post thru email... My mobile phone can send email... I've been able to post from my phone to my weblog since last year...
    What's the big deal?
  • Don't focus on typing on the lame-ass phone keypad, it was never meant for that. T9 predictive text helps insofar as entering 'lunch with Bob on tuesday' but you wouldn't want to write more than a sentance or two at most.

    If I want to remember a detail for a blog, I use the voice recording feature on my T68i. Just take the memo, its way faster than typing, and you can do it while you're driving or whatever if you have an earpiece. I listen to the recordings when I upload (but only really as a reference, I type something 'fresh' based on what I recorded).

    If you ask me, voice-to-text is the one missing piece that would really solve the problem of text entry on mobile devices. If the phone (or a backend app) could turn my recorded voice into live text... that would rock.

  • As much as the stream of consciousness folks tried to shove it down my throat, I will always believe that editing is a duty.

    C'mon. It has to be the right thing to do, as nobody wants to do it.

  • Hmm (Score:2, Informative)

    missed Audblog? [audblog.com]
  • CarlaZone [carlazone.com] bllog has uploads of live images from a cell phone with a web cam...

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