Slashback: Towel, Linkage, Drafthouse 313
They're also good for drying off after bathing. Snitty writes "Douglas Adams passed away a little over a year ago now, and as tradition will soon dictate the first Thursday after May 11th every year is International Towel Day. This happens to be this Thursday, so make sure you all show up to the 12:01 am showing of Attack of the Clones with your favorite lightsaber and a towel. Always know where your towel is."
Update: 05/15 00:11 GMT by T : Hmmm -- this seems to clash with a link another reader submitted, which suggests "the last Friday of every May," which this year would be the 31st.
Update: 05/15 15:00 GMT by T : D Clyde Williamson writes: "Towel Day (since I'm the guy who started it) is on May 25th every year." So ... it's not a portable feast?
Three guesses where they each get that money from. mblase writes "CNet, among others, informed its readers that Macromedia successfully countersued Adobe for patent infringement to the tune of $4.9 million, almost double the $2.8 million Adobe recently won from Macromedia. The article notes Macromedia has another patent suit against Adobe going to court in June 2003."
Listening material when Prairie Home Companion is over. Ender, Duke_of_URL writes "The second portion of Rep. Boucher's interview is up (MP3). This has been discussed previously on Slashdot."
They're also opposed to front doors. dringess writes "Wired has yet another article about deep linking. This one has some fun lawyer rebuttals. I guess I am deep linking right now!"
I especially like this quote: "... but this would set a terrible precedent implying that links have to have a certain amount of ads."
Keeps popcorn out of your keyboard, at least. smashed writes: "After being slashdotted and geekaustin'd and touted for being the first theater with wireless access .... I went to see Spider-Man tonight at the Alamo Drafthouse North in Austin. Apparently you can't have 'electronic devices on' during the feature. I was warned if I didn't shut down my laptop I had to leave by some girl that worked for the theater. The world's first Cyber-Theater my ass. Nice try, but apparently wireless users are absolutely not welcomed there when a movie is playing. I'm very disappointed. I couldn't even have my PocketPC with wireless NIC on while the movie was on. Was I taking off down the runway on an airplane? What's the point?"
Wouldn't you like a mainframe in the closet? Writing in regards to this posting on Linux on mainframes, rudy writes: "Your reference was to the first one in the series, the second one has been up for about a week and the third, and last, one in the series will go on late this week or early next."
Wireless devices during a movie (Score:5, Insightful)
Personally I'd be pretty pissed if the person next to me had their laptop/PDA on during the movie. The bright screen would be very annoying in a dark theatre, and the tapping of stylus or keys would drive me mad.
Re:Wireless devices during a movie (Score:5, Informative)
I saw a number of other people with laptops and I found it incredibly distracting -- even before the movie, when the lights are on. When the lights are out, it's even worse. It's not like a cell phone that runs four times before someone finally shuts it off. If you sit behind it, you can't help but glance at the glowing screen. It doesn't matter whether you're in the row just behind the person, or twenty rows back, it's still annoying.
I'd also say similar things about people who bring their laptops to class and browse the web without listening, while in the front row, but I'm rambling now.
Re:Wireless devices during a movie (Score:2)
How is someone browsing the web with their laptop in the front row more distracting than someone taking notes on their laptop in the front row? Either way the screen is as bright. The taking notes even involves more typing, although I admit that the web surfing will probably involve more changing images on the screen.
Re:Wireless devices during a movie (Score:2, Funny)
I guess it would depend on what web sites they are browsing. Especially if the screen is full of lots of flesh-tone...
Obviously not a hacker (Score:2, Insightful)
What apparently doesn't occur to you, is that there are people in this world who actually code for fun, and not only when they have a massive project due.
There are some of us who would much prefer bringing a laptop to code on during a long wait over twiddling our fingers.
'Course, a good technical book is perfectly adequate as well. But if you're in the midst of something fun, you're not gonna let something like a little movie stop you.
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Grab.
Re:Wireless devices during a movie (Score:2, Insightful)
Most people love going to the movies, and just adding "cyber-" or any other buzzword in front of it makes it that much more appealing to most people, let alone all those geeks in the Austin area.
Re:Wireless devices during a movie (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Wireless devices during a movie (Score:2, Flamebait)
Towelie (Score:3, Funny)
Wanna get high?
wireless theater (Score:2, Funny)
Alamo Drafthouse (Score:2)
What's the point? (Score:2, Flamebait)
Even film critics typically just use a 'light pen.'
Re:What's the point? (Score:2)
Re:What's the point? (Score:5, Informative)
It would seem that they were trying to set things up exactly to do the sorts of things they prevented "smashed" from doing.
Re:What's the point? (Score:5, Insightful)
Do this when you're out of the theater. 5 minutes at home can get you a months worth of tickets. If you can't remember the preview you saw, then it didn't make that big of an impression on you, and you don't want to see it that bad anyway.
Messaging to Fellow Movie goers adjacent in the crowd without talking.
What makes you think they want to listen to you in the first place? And even if you're not talking, any noise or flashing indication that you have a message will be just as (or more annoying) to movie goers.
Messaging to Fellow Movie goers in adjacent screens in multi-screen venues without talking.
When the hell would you ever want to do that?
Surfing to related or official websites for the current movie showing.
What could be on those sites that is more interesting than the movie at hand? Character bios? OH JOY!
Surfing to the InternetMovieDataBase [imdb.com] for related data to movie, actors and screen writers.
Wait till you get home. The last thing we need is someone wanking off to the latest modeling pictures of Angelina Joli (sorry for the name butcher)
Connecting to promotions related to movie sponsor.
Right, cause not only do I like watching preview, I love reading advertisements while I watch my movie.
Driving the movie content in real-time via audience response in Digital Theaters.
I can see this now, some 20 year old college student pushing the button for more blood and sex while some 40 year old mom is sitting there pushing the "Cuddly Soft" button.
Ordering Food and drinks from the kitchen and bar without talking.
It would be less distracting for you to get up and get the food yourself than to have an attendent walk in and yell out "Which person ordered the double buttered grease tub bucket -o-popcorn?"
Ordering the movie soundtrack online or video releases in advance.
Once again, wait till you get home. It won't get there any faster if you order it at 12 or at 3
Watching an alternate streaming movie if the one on the big screen doesn't make it for you.
I'm sure this violates the DMCA somewhere. And not only that, but if the movie doesn't interest you, you're supposed to walk out and demand your money back, that's how theaters know which movies are doing good, which are doing ok and which just plain suck.
Useless "rebuttal" (Score:2, Insightful)
For Christ's sake, the poster listed a dozen possible uses for a new technology, some of which are personally interesting to me and some of which are not. Pointing out alternatives does not negate the creativity of the poster.
Perhaps you had this exchange in the early 90's:
Internet? Who needs it?
I can send email to my relatives!
Why email when you can call or fax?
I can do my banking online!
Why not just do it on the phone or in person?
I can check movie times online!
Why not just call the theater or look in the paper?
I know you're tempted to go through my examples and rebutt each one by pointing out why the sample online activities are actually better than the alternatives provided. Go on, you know you want to.
The only thing more exciting about technology than emerging capabilities is the creativity and imagination that leads to more USES for those capabilities. When someone proposes new uses, you are free to embrace them or not. Taking the time to point out that you personally would not do each and every one is a waste of time and makes you sound like a close-minded philistine.
Re:Useless "rebuttal" (Score:2)
Re:What's the point? (Score:2)
Re:What's the point? (Score:2)
Watching an alternate streaming movie if th ebig screen doesn't make it for you? Uh, why not just leave the theater? I'm sure that the main screen's going to be loud enough for you to distract you from watching an alternate streamed movie.
I predict this "cyber theater" will be a thing of the past in less than a year.
Re:What's the point? (Score:3, Funny)
Stream the movie to all your friends at home with your built-in webcam.
Re:What's the point? (Score:2)
During the movie... (Score:2, Flamebait)
Re:During the movie... (Score:2)
Re:During the movie... (Score:2)
RIP (Score:2, Insightful)
i wonder if dying is like entering a total perspective vortex...
42, amen, and we'll miss you. looking forward to salmon of doubt and the moive.
Re:RIP (Score:4, Insightful)
Party time... (Score:4, Funny)
We didn't have a network, or hi-speed connection, but we had a full bar, a nice bong, and a house band which are far more attractive to girls.
Wireless theater access... (Score:4, Insightful)
-Adam
Shut your laptop off? Good! (Score:5, Insightful)
"I was warned if I didn't shut down my laptop I had to leave by some girl that worked for the theater. The world's first Cyber-Theater my ass. Nice try, but apparently wireless users are absolutely not welcomed there when a movie is playing. I'm very disappointed. I couldn't even have my PocketPC with wireless NIC on while the movie was on. Was I taking off down the runway on an airplane? What's the point?"
Good. If I'm watching a movie, I don't want the backlight from your laptop or PocketPC glaring at me, the clunking of your keyboard or beeping (or worse) from your laptop.
Cellphones have shown that there are plenty of people who have no concept of others in public places, and who can't be bothered to turn it off.
If you arrive early at a movie, and want to browse the web to pass the time, fine. Once the movie starts though, I want everything (including your mouth) shut off.
Just watch the movie. That's what you paid $10 for anyway.
Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! (Score:2)
Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! (Score:5, Interesting)
Cellular phone jammers are illegal in the USA... is anyone else up for joining me on a bill that allows (If not mandates.) jamming devices to be installed in every theatre in the country?
Faraday cage (Score:2)
Build each screen inside a Faraday cage. Essentially, the idea is to encase the whole room in a sheet of metal. The will block the radio frequency waves, and thus the phones won't work. The Faraday cage operates on the principle that the metal screen need not be complete, but that there can be gaps, provided that these gaps are small (and you can calculate how small they need to be.
To be quite honest, the simplest retro fit solution is to put a layer of tin foil on the walls, under wall papere (or paint it). Stick a sheet in the door, and you've got most of the place, and you'll probably be attenuating the signal by a good proportion. It might not prevent them from working, but it'd be
a) damn cheap
b) somewhere near 70% efficent.
Of course, the best solution is to educate the audience. Preferable with a good sized LART.
Re:Faraday cage (Score:2)
Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! (Score:2, Insightful)
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Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! (Score:3, Insightful)
Some people are on-call 24x7x52. And others (like me) would prefer that the babysitter can get ahold of us if something dire should happen. Of course, my phone is left on vibrate and I'd leave the theater before answering. Anyone not considerate to do likewise deserves exile to the Saturday Matinee.
I agree that laptops, PDAs, and the like should be turned off during the movie. They may not be loud, but the light is surely going to bother everyone behind you.
Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! (Score:2)
I'm confused...
Kintanon
Re:Shut your laptop off? Good! (Score:2)
What i'd rather see is a protocol to let cell phones conform to rules for the environment. Theatres and libraries could have transponders which tell the phones to switch to vibrate as long as they are in range of the transponder. Classrooms too. Airplanes could have transponders which turn the phone off and schedule it to turn back on at flight time + 15 minutes. Then there's no high power jamming intereference, doctors or whoever else _need_ to use their phones can (and trust me, if you have a heart attack you don't want your doctor be starting watching LOTR and be out of reach until s/he leaves the theatre), and people who insist on being assholes about it are still going to be assholes, but there wasnt much you could do about that anyways.
While we're at it, do any of the new plam/phones have ringer control in the scheduling, so i can hit a checkbox on an appointment and the phone switches to vibrate for that hour and then back when it's over? And do any phones have vibrate VIBRATE ring RING modes? and if not, why the fuck not?
Jamming not necessary... (Score:2)
Different Kind of Theater (Score:2)
-Waldo Jaquith
Re:Different Kind of Theater (Score:3, Informative)
Orders are taken before the show and during previews.
Staff are very quiet and make as little noise or visual (crouching once the feature presentation has started) distraction as possible.
One of the theater created bumpers before the show is a clip from the 80's version of "The Blob" where a noisy movie patron is blabbing in a normal conversation tone about what is happening on the screen and gets consumed by the blob. At which point giant block letters come on the screen to inform the Drafthouse crowd that if you talk during the the presentaion, "We'll kick your ass out."
The wireless access is very cool for the drafthouse type crowd that typically arrives 30 minutes to an hour before the showing to get their seats and order and wants something to do while waiting for the movie.
People like the guy that was acting all annoyed about being told to close his notebook are just as bad as the people that feel they have the right to leave their phones on audible ring and talk in loud voices like the theater was their own personal living room. Wireless access does not equate to the right to do whatever you want.
As a movie-aholic that frequents the Alamo Drafthouse among many of the other theaters in Austin there are times when I totally feel like this Real Life [reallifecomics.com] comicstrip.
If you can't have basic respect for other people trying to watch the movie stay home, please.
Wireless Theatre? (Score:2, Informative)
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Re:Wireless Theatre? (Score:2)
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Wireless theater (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm serious, movie theaters had better not allow this sort of thing.
Re:Wireless theater (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Wireless theater (Score:4, Interesting)
If I had a PDA or laptop in there you probably couldn't hear it over the chewing and slurping noises, and the more beer people drink the more likely they are to chatter noisily.
In other words, I won't be going to see Episode II anywhere that has the words "Draft House" in the name.
steveha
Re:Wireless theater (Score:5, Funny)
Having spent many an evening at Chicago's Brew & View [brewview.com] I can say that this is just untrue; it's certainly no worse than in a normal movie theater. Moreover, many of the noises that electronic devices make are designed to catch your attention. Plus, very few foods, even in Chicago, glow; most handheld computing devices do.
In other words, I won't be going to see Episode II anywhere that has the words "Draft House" in the name.
Seeing a good, serious movie at Brew & View isn't great. But it's a great place to see something funny; the South Park movie was a blast there. And there is nowhere better see a really bad movie; between the beer and the sassy heckling from the audience, even Jar Jar Binks is tolerable.
Re:Wireless theater (Score:2)
I know a better place (Score:2)
This was on the messdecks of USS Midway, CV-41, somewhere in the Pacific. Sometimes we had movies on the hangar deck, but not often. Messdecks were big enough.
Military crowds do not coddle movies. Turkeys get hoots and hollers, plenty of talking back, etc. Best damn way to see a movie there is.
Re:Wireless theater (Score:2)
I'd also be pissed if someone opened a laptop during a movie. You went to the movie to see the damn movie, not surf the web. You can do that on your own time. If you absolutely insist on watching a movie while surfing the web, go to Blockbuster, plop in front of the TV, and have at it. By abusing public service, you're just going to ensure that nobody else offers it. From what I've heard, the Drafthouse is having more trouble than they bargained for with the 802.11, and are considering disabling it when the place is not rented out to a conference (they also do large theater-style corporate presentations during the weekdays.) Too many geeks going in and thinking along the lines of this guy.
Re:Wireless theater (Score:2)
God, for the life of me, I don't know why anyone would want to diddle around with a PC or a PDA while watching a movie.
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In other words, I won't be going to see Episode II anywhere that has the words "Draft House" in the name.
As someone who has actually been to the drafthouse, I feel I'm entitled to actually comment on it.
The Drafthouse has a very strict "Shut the hell up" policy and state before the movie starts to tell a waitress if other patrons get out of hand and they will be immediately dealt with.
Obviously they dealt with the original poster of the story effectively, huh?
It's also been my experience that the waitress only comes around 2 or maybe 3 times during the whole 2 hour movie, which I would say is significantly less distracting than the 2 hour glow of your Vaio backlighting.
Copyright infringement (Score:3, Informative)
Under this theory a deap link into a pasword protected site (like NYT) could be a contributory infringment.
Thursday after May 11th? (Score:5, Informative)
I was under the impression that Towel Day was May 25th. A quick search reveals (http://www.systemtoolbox.com/towelday/) that at least some people consider May 25th to be Towel Day...
I, presonally, have been prepping my towels for the 25th, and I don't think I'll change my plans in light of this Slashdot story.
random
Re:Thursday after May 11th? (Score:2)
Re:Thursday after May 11th? (Score:2, Funny)
*EVERY* day should be Towel Day
Re:Thursday after May 11th? (Score:3, Insightful)
Why??? (Score:4, Insightful)
However, when I go to a wireless, geek based theatre, I DO expect it, and SHOULD expect it and should not be surprised in the slightest when everyone, INCLUDING ME, has this equipment running. The theatre can set the policy. Obviously they saw a market for a theatre that actually ALLOWED those very "distractions" since so many people seemed compelled to distract others. This is actually a perfect idea. Give these people a place they can go that this activity is welcome and they'll leave the rest of us alone.
Alas, apparently all is not what it seems to be.
-Restil
Re:Why??? (Score:2)
Re:Why??? (Score:2)
My opinion of Macromedia has just improved a notch (Score:5, Insightful)
An excellent and sobering quote. Very good sense of perspective.
Re:My opinion of Macromedia has just improved a no (Score:2)
Re:My opinion of Macromedia has just improved a no (Score:2)
Deep linking (Score:5, Funny)
Now THAT'S what I call "deep linking".
Re:Deep linking (Score:3, Funny)
To theatre laptop users... (Score:4, Funny)
Just when IS towel day? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Just when IS towel day? (Score:2, Insightful)
But, isn't it just implicit that any event commemorating Douglas Adams has to be on a Thursday?
I don't know where the idea of a Friday would come from. A towel on a Thursday just makes sense. Helps you get the hang of Thursdays.
Re:Just when IS towel day? (Score:3, Funny)
Oh hell, how about we put a Vogon planning committee in charge of deciding when the holiday is?
Re:Just when IS towel day? (Score:5, Interesting)
I would like to further propose that this be the LAST towel day, and that starting next year, we all celebrate DNA on February 11th, and that said celebration include carrying towels. Sound good to everyone?
Deep Linking is like... (Score:2, Insightful)
Deep Linking is exactly like Magazine #1 writing:
"There's this interesting article on page 42 in this month's Magazine #2 issue."
Would Magazine #2 sue Magazine #1 in the real world? Then why do lawyers seem to think it's perfectly normal to sue over exactly the same thing in the digital world?
Re:Deep Linking is like... (Score:2, Insightful)
A magazine you could point to and it would have a table of contents, etc, as well as being compact.
An encyclopedia of my type would be hard to find something, and your readers would have little luck finding what you were talking about. This is the point of deep-linking.
theaters and towels (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:theaters and towels (Score:2)
Prarie Home Companion is the best (Score:3, Insightful)
Since Duke of URL mentioned it in his Slashback, I just wanted to pause and note [mpr.org].
Re:Prarie Home Companion is the best (Score:2)
I have the perfect solution for cell phones. (Score:4, Funny)
The last time someone down the isle had to take not one, not two, not three, but four calls all of them answered with "Yo HO whass the happs?!". The last pound of popcorn from my supersized popcorn bucket, 4 ounces of butter, and the bucket also hit him in the back of the head from 6 chairs over. Not only did he shut up but he left in a real big hurry when his anger was squelched by the 60+ people clapping and laughing their collective asses off. Poor sap...I almost felt bad.
Re:I have the perfect solution for cell phones. (Score:2, Funny)
I think we have a business plan here for "Remote Slap-Upside-Their-Head" (tm). If someone constantly performs ThoughtlesslyRudeAndAnnoying Act during a movie, you speed-dial and SMS a request for a "Remote Slap-Upside-Their_Head" (RSUTH), plus a destination vector. The nearest authorized employee of "RSUTH" will receive the message, and carry out the request. *SLAP*!
Vigilante Justice is so underrated.
Tom
This "posting" (Score:2)
What posting? A link, people?
Wireless Spiderman? (Score:2)
Annoying Noises In A Theatre (Score:2)
All of you morons who think I should "stay out of a theatre" as a result, well...
If you have any of the following:
1 - Crunchy Food
2 - Overly Loud Laugh
3 - A Tendency To Whisper To Your Compatriot
4 - Body Odor
What do do in line for the movie (Score:2)
Re:I'd want you kicked out too (Score:2)
Or you could either engage in polite conversation with the person next to you, watch the avderts, or even, horrors, not arrive insanely early.
What's next, "wireless public toilets", arrive 1/2 an hour before you have to pee so you can browse the web for a bit ?!?!
It's like WAP on cell phones... yeah I guess it's interesting, never mind that it's utterly pointless for 99% of the population.
Re:Adams again? (Score:2, Funny)
Just the original version, in it's durable plastic case with the simple 'Don't Panic!' logo. I mean, sure, you -could- go for the prototype Guide seen in 'Mostly Harmless', but that thing's just plain scary, IMHO...
"It's all fun and games, 'til you realize it's only streams of 1's and 0's..."
Don't mean to sound sappy, but... (Score:2, Interesting)
While I doubt you are the only person who dislikes DNA, It's hard to realistically say that his works aren't important to many, many people. For some reason, the "geek community," which I'm not really sure I belong to (if it even really exists), has adopted his writings as one chapter of a "geek bible."
I've never been so attached to anyone I've never met as to him.
-If
Re:Adams again? (Score:2)
His writing is like cotton candy, not bad, but certainly not filling. Very light and with a tendency to dissolve a few seconds after you get it.
I also stopped enjoying the non sequiter humor of Monty Python funny after I was about 15 years old. I can only watch about 5 minutes of it before it gets old.
After all, the man had the nerve to try and pass off the hoary old "cookie swap" story as actually happening to him. See http://www.snopes2.com/crime/safety/cookies.htm
Re:Adams again? (Score:2)
There's always Pratchett of course if you like British humor. His books are a mix of humor and character development. If you want something with just a lot of jokes and not much characterization, get one of the Discworld books with Rincewind in it.
For pure lunacy, there's always Wodehouse.
Re:Adams again? (Score:2, Interesting)
Save the -1 scores for real trolls. I'm just not a fan of Douglas Adams, and I found his work repetative.
Things could be worse...I could be blaspheming dilbert, right?
Re:Adams again? (Score:5, Insightful)
In his H^2G^2 Series, Adams took a rather playful and accurate punch at life, and nailed it on the nose. Life truly is silly. There are so many things that happen arround us every day that we take for granted as perfectly normal and yet would make anyone who was not acustomed to our lives go "What the hell?"
Life was meant to be enjoyed in a way that is condusive with happiness. The infamous "Don't Panic" mantra is one that should be taken to heart. Life does have a mysterious way of working out, and even if it doesn't, in the end we die anyway, so why should you worry that your toast was burned thismorning, or that you can't find your socks. Just take life one breath at a time and enjoy.
Re:Answers (Score:2)
I, for one, am a bit tired of the Adams worship. Then again, I'm growing tired of just about any sort of worship of pop icons.
Re:wow, lots of resolutions (Score:2)
I would guess that most of
Other web sites might have a different situation, where most of their traffic comes from deep linking. However, news web sites always seem to have some adds thrown in with their articles, so people aren't avoiding adds by following deep links.
Re:wow, lots of resolutions (Score:2)
If people don't want deep links to items on their web site, they should configure their web server to check the "referer" field before serving such items up, or require password access.
If they're too incompetent/lazy/whatever to do that, too bad: if it's on the web, it's public.